Huge riots in Istanbul!

[Neuro]

Right now hundreds of thousands of people are congregating in Istanbul, chasing the riot police away. Originally it was a protest against replacing a park with another fucking shopping mall in the very center of Istanbul. I had a patient today, that was pepper sprayed by the fascist pigs, they cordoned off the park, and the protesters went to a nearby cementary to hold a press conference there, and the police came there and pepper sprayed the protesters, it has been escalating since then, and people are really angry. The police is getting desperate and have started shooting rubber bullets at the protesters, but very few arrests (only 57), they are having enough of a job now just to protect themselves... This will get BIG!

[JohnQPublic]

Turkish police fire tear gas at Istanbul protesters (http://www.dw.de/turkish-police-fire-tear-gas-at-istanbul-protesters/a-16852451)
"...Dozens of people, including tourists, were wounded on Friday during the demonstrations in Istanbul's iconic Taksim Square. The violence began after a dawn raid by police on the demonstrators, who'd camped at the park for days in anger over plans to develop the area around the square.

The protest began late on Monday, but has developed into a broader demonstration against the Islamist-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP) of prime minister Tayyip Recep Erdogan.
A number of protesters suffered broken bones, while others were hospitalized. Tear gas and pepper spray from police also infiltrated the local subway. A group of primary school children ran crying from the tear gas, while tourists scrambled to get into hotels that surround the square..."

[JohnQPublic]

Istanbul riot police use tear gas to disperse protesters (http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/160504/)
4959

[JohnQPublic]

4960

[mamboni]

What's the people's underlying beef with the government? Bad economy? Unemployment? Excessive influence of bagel-eaters? US-Zionist oppression? All of the above?

[Neuro]

Right now they are dropping tear gas from helicopters...

[Ponce]

Right now they are dropping tear gas from helicopters...

Tear gas or US dollars?........that would make the riot only bigger.

V

[Spectrism]

This sounds like a powder keg. Any economic concerns fueling the discontent? Why would people be so upset about a shopping center?

[Neuro]

The chief of police for Istanbul security resigned...

[chad]

get down there an get some man on the street footage neuro!

[Hitch]

Don't listen to chad! Neuro, be careful. Sounds like a good time to bug in!

[Neuro]

get down there an get some man on the street footage neuro!
I would seriously consider it if I didn't have children... But the patient earlier today that got pepper sprayed got a free treatment...

[JohnQPublic]

... But the patient earlier today that got pepper sprayed got a free treatment...

Aha! Doctors pay is a gratuity! Chalk one up for Palani.

[General of Darkness]

What the fuck are they rioting about? Not enough European female tourists to rape?

[Neuro]

What the fuck are they rioting about? Not enough European female tourists to rape?
I think the main reason is against the increasingly authoritarian rule of the PM Recep Tayip Erdogan, the Tear gas against the peaceful protestors of the shopping mall, instead of a park in Istanbuls main square, was just a triggering factor...

[Neuro]

Aha! Doctors pay is a gratuity! Chalk one up for Palani.
I charge a reasonable fee for a valuable service, I decided to waive that fee for a person that put his life and limb at risk to protest against tyranny, I do the same thing for other reasons too...

[JohnQPublic]

In case you missed it, my comment was based on this thread (mainly the 2nd and 3rd posts): http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?69916-Doctors-In-Revolt

[Hatha Sunahara]

There will likely be not a peep about this in the US mainstream media. News about resistance is verboten.


Hatha

[Serpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uofQzHb5hw&feature=player_embeddedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uofQzHb5hw&feature=player_embedded

[vacuum]

Right now they are dropping tear gas from helicopters...

Using helicopters on civilians? That escalated quickly.

[Neuro]

Using helicopters on civilians? That escalated quickly.
They lost controll on the streets, so they applied the same thinking that created the situation! 40.000 people have marched across the Bosphorus bridge from Asia to Europe. Walking on that bridge is prohibited. The protests go on at the Taksim square!

[vacuum]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/67929000/jpg/_67929073_67929072.jpg
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/67929000/jpg/_67929065_67929064.jpg
Police in the Turkish city of Istanbul have retreated from Taksim Square, following violent confrontations between officers and anti-government protesters.


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/67929000/jpg/_67929115_67929114.jpg
There have also been clashes in the capital, Ankara, where one protester has been run over by a water cannon.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/67929000/jpg/_67929071_67929070.jpg
Earlier the Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, had called for an immediate end to the demonstrations, the biggest in years, describing them as illegitimate.



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But Mr Erdogan also promised an inquiry into allegations that the police had used excessive force. Many countries have expressed concern over the issue.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/67927000/jpg/_67927824_67927823.jpg
In recent days police have fired tear gas and water cannon several times to break up the demonstrations.


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The protests were triggered by plans to redevelop Gezi Park, part of Taksim Square.

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The protesters say the park is one of the few remaining green spaces left in Istanbul.

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Mr Erdogan insists the redevelopment will go ahead - but many of those in Taksim Square also accuse his government of being autocratic and trying to impose Islamic values on the secular country.

[vacuum]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/67929000/jpg/_67929071_67929070.jpg


really?

[steyr_m]

Stuff like this can become a game-changer. Look at what happened in Egypt

[Neuro]

Stuff like this can become a game-changer. Look at what happened in Egypt
At this time I don't think so much will come from this in short term. Economy is good, people have work and can put food on their table. I think Monday the protests will become slower, people will go to work, but it should be an eye opener to the government... Istanbul ran out of tear gas, so they had to have more sent in from other towns...

[osoab]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/67929000/jpg/_67929071_67929070.jpg



Someone needs to photoshop that commiefornia cop that sprayed the college kids in this pic.

[osoab]

Then you get the chick that got a tear gas can up side the head.

Go to the end of the vid to see the aftermath.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=304_1370018840



Nice idea below too.

http://www.iol.co.za/polopoly_fs/iol-pic-wld-turkey-protest-8-1.1525346!/image/1015258285.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_300/1015258285.jpg

[Neuro]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/67929000/jpg/_67929071_67929070.jpg

[/CENTER]

really?
That is really the poster picture for tyranny! This was at the start of the revolt! She was in the park objecting to trees being torn up, for a shopping mall. A young woman in a red dress, not threatening to the police at all, being pepper sprayed. The PM is now called "Chemical Tayip" It was funny yesterday, someone tweeted about 41 buses leaving Adana (a town in SE Turkey, famous for its spicy food) full with people to join the protests. Someone replied 'Good! Adana people have pepper spray for breakfast'... Tonight there were massive battles in parts of Istanbul, Ankara and Izmir between police and protestors and many other places, many injured and it really looks like war zones, many people were injured. Only one of the many commercial TV stations transmitted anything from the protests (Halk TV, and in the middle of the night police cut off power for their building), all the rest said nothing, that's Fascism!

[brosil]

I finally saw this covered for a few seconds on the national news last night. It was only a few seconds and showed a small group of folks protesting. If not for the internet, we wouldn't have known the extent of the protest. Keep up the good work, Neuro.

[Cebu_4_2]

Solution, death to all PIGS and JEWS. The JEWS sit back and laugh if they even bother to see what they do, the PIGS are so fucking stupid they do what their JEW trainers tell them.


All over a spot in a park huh? What a fucking joke. Next they will claim it was all about a swingset.

[Neuro]

Guy Fawkes plays the accordion in Adana -V
http://occupygezipics.tumblr.com/post/51963454071/a-man-plays-the-accordion-in-adana-behind-the

[Neuro]

A couple of water canon tanks decides to smash people on the streets by running over them...
http://intellihub.com/2013/06/02/turkish-police-run-over-crowds-of-protesters-with-large-tanks-warning-graphic-video/

[Neuro]

I have been out beating a coffee pot til my ears started ringing. Here you can watch live what happens on the streets of Turkey from the only TV station worth it's salt. Halk TV. Commentary is in Turkish but the pics speak for themselves.

http://www.canlitelevizyonlar.net/halk-tv-izle.html

[Neuro]

However they have commercial breaks to sell hair removal product...

[Neuro]

Amazing people are out everywhere banging pots and pans, honking horns, drumming even outside on the street where we live, which is a fairly conservative area, with lots of women with headscarves... The police probably starts feeling alone on the streets!

[Neuro]

Trucks have barricaded one of the main roads in central Istanbul to stop Police to get to the demonstrators...

http://occupygezipics.tumblr.com/post/51996989826/in-besiktas-borbaros-boulevard-trucks-are-used

[Norweger]

Nice. Hope they remove the Dönmehs.

[Serpo]

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[vacuum]

Left: CNN Turkey, right CNN international

http://i.imgur.com/DkdgGnQ.jpg

[Cebu_4_2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uofQzHb5hw&feature=player_embeddedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uofQzHb5hw&feature=player_embedded

I would have to guess this guy is seriously maimed or dead.

[Serpo]

I would have to guess this guy is seriously maimed or dead.

I first thought that at first but they may only be rubber as number of deaths is low

[Serpo]

"The government interferes with what we need to eat, what we need to drink, how we should sleep with our partner, how many kids that we should have," Polat said. "This is getting beyond reasonable."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/06/02/turkey-protests/2381911/



http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/06/01/1370118059000-TURKEY-015-1306011626_4_3_rx383_c540x380.jpg?553efe1954dfb7d1 a113a4c5cf7c04bfaead0983

[vacuum]

It's a shame riots always seem to destroy public transportation, stores, infrastructure, etc, while the politicians, bankers, religious leaders, and police and military never seem to really have anything bad happen to them.

[Jewboo]

Huge riots in USA!

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http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/men-watching-tv-football-sandwiches.jpg


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[vacuum]

http://i.imgur.com/dhYRuTa.jpg

[Cebu_4_2]

I first thought that at first but they may only be rubber as number of deaths is low

Sorry, I was referring to the guy that was blasted with the water cannon. The pressure probably blew into his brain, check it out.

[osoab]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
Turkish Stocks Collapse Most In 10 Years, Bond Yields Surge Most On Record (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-03/turkish-stocks-collapse-bond-yields-surge-most-record)Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 06/03/2013 - 10:31 http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/06/20130602_turk1_1.jpg
UPDATE: BIST-100 Closes -10.47% - Biggest drop since March 2003
Until mid-last week, the Turkish equity market was up 90% from the start of 2012 and up 19.5% in 2013. Of course, why not. Global easy money and a nation in the middle of economic and geopolitical hotspots - buy it with both hands and feet. However, it appears reality is starting to sink in. Last week's (and ongoing) social unrest is beginning to take the shine off the hot-money flows (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-01/photo-gallery-violent-turkey). The broad Turkish stock market is now down 17% from its highs last week (very reminiscent of Japan) having given up in 3 days the gains from the first five months of the year. Turkish bond yields also spiked (moar hot-money outflows from 'reaching for yield') by their most on record (71bps) to 6.78%.

[osoab]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL1p5PcCYAE4n_f.jpg#twimg

[Cebu_4_2]

Video at link:

http://intellihub.com/2013/06/01/turkeys-taksim-square-drenched-in-blood-as-900-protesters-are-arrested-extremely-graphic-content/

Turkey’s Taksim Square Drenched in Blood as 900 Protesters Are Arrested (Extremely Graphic Content)
http://cdn.printfriendly.com/pf-button-both.gif (http://www.printfriendly.com/print?url=http://intellihub.com/2013/06/01/turkeys-taksim-square-drenched-in-blood-as-900-protesters-are-arrested-extremely-graphic-content/)
Turkey is entering its third day of violent protests as police have withdrawn from Taksim Square and allowed the mass protests to continue. By Daniel Jackson
The Daily Sheeple (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/turkeys-taksim-square-drenched-in-blood-as-900-protesters-are-arrested-extremely-graphic-content_062013)
June 1, 2013
Over 900 people have been arrested across Turkey for what the authorities called a security measure.
The first photo below was taken from a CNN IReport (http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-980839?ref=feeds%2Flatest) that CNN themselves have not vetted.
Blood in streets near Taksim Turkey

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/imagejpg-2494472_p9.jpg (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/imagejpg-2494472_p9.jpg) A shocking video report from RT shows violent clashes between police and protesters:
An RT article covered various aspects of the protests including how they started and what they stand for:

Police in Istanbul have withdrawn from Taksim Square, allowing the mass protest to continue unabated, Turkish media report. Istanbul and Ankara are entering the third day of violent protests, with tear gas and water cannon deployed and over 900 arrested.


Follow RT’s live updates on Taksim Square protest (http://rt.com/news/istanbul-park-protests-police-095/)

Minor scuffles broke out after protesters lobbed fireworks at officers as they were drawing back, the state-run Anadolu Agency reports. Police removed barricades around the square, located in the heart of the city, which had previously been erected to prevent the anti-government protests, Private Dogan news agency said.


Despite the authorities decision to allow tens of thousands to flood onto the square, the main subway gateway to Taksim, the central station in the city’s metro network, has reportedly been shut down in an effort to keep more people from reaching the ongoing protests.


In the capital, Ankara, security forces battled with demonstrators who had amassed at a park near Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s office. Rallies have also been staged in the cities of Bodrum, Konya and Izmir.
http://rt.com/files/news/1f/47/20/00/--1.jpg Protestors take care of an injured demonstrator during a demonstration in support of protests in Istanbul and against the Turkish Prime Minister and his ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP), in Ankara, on June 1, 2013 (AFP Photo / Adem Altan) Confronted with the growing street opposition, Erdogan remained defiant, demanding that protesters “stop their demonstrations immediately.”
“Police were there yesterday, they’ll be on duty today and also tomorrow because Taksim Square cannot be an area where extremists are running wild,” the PM warned.
In two days about 939 people have been detained across the Turkey as part of “necessary security measures,” Turkish Interior Minister Muammer Güler said.
http://rt.com/files/news/1f/47/20/00/01.jpg Police use a water cannon to disperse protestors near the Taksim Gezi park in Istanbul after clashes with riot police, on June 1, 2013, during a demonstration against the demolition of the park (AFP Photo / Gurcan Ozturk) Many have wondered how the protests originally erupted and the answer to that question is that it apparently started after dozens of activists decided to attempt a sit in at a park that was set to be destroyed for commercial use.
After the police became overzealous and clearly attacked peaceful protesters, many other people within Turkish society joined their ranks.

On Monday, several dozen activists tried to stage a sit-in in Gezi Park, the last area of green space left on Taksim Square, after several trees were torn up to make way for a commercial redevelopment.
Erdogan dismissed the small protest on Wednesday, saying authorities would go ahead with the plan, which entails the construction of a replica Ottoman-era barracks that could house a shopping mall or apartments.
Following three days of police pressure, which saw officers douse peaceful protesters with pepper spray and tear gas, the sit-in attracted support from broad sections of Turkish society.
http://rt.com/files/news/1f/47/20/00/02.jpg Protestors run away from tear gas at the Taksim Gezi park in Istanbul after clashes with riot police, on June 1, 2013, during a demonstration against the demolition of the park (AFP Photo / Gurcan Ozturk)

The heavy-handed tactics deployed by police have been viewed by demonstrators as a sign of the government’s increasingly authoritarian bent, with the park demonstration turning into a broader, nationwide protest against Erdogan’s government.


Similar demonstrations have flared up around the country despite a court decision to temporarily halt demolition of the park.
Erdogan said that the Turkish Interior Ministry had launched an investigation into the use of excessive force by security forces. In a televised speech, the Turkish PM said police may have used tear gas excessively during their confrontation with protesters, although he insisted they did not represent the majority and were responsible for raising tensions.


However, protesters have countered the claim, saying the violent police crackdown is to blame for the recent unrest.
“This started simply as a peaceful sit-in to save a park, but it’s become one of the worst state attacks on protesters in recent memory — and a frightening example of the Turkish government’s growing eagerness to crack down on its own citizens,” an online petition (http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Erdogan_End_the_crackdown_now/?wDKFjdb) demanding that Erdogan “End the crackdown now!” reads.


“The security forces have been individually targeting protesters to terrify, wound and kill us. 12 people have already suffered trauma injuries from gas canisters — one man died of heart attack, and hundreds are suffering from excessive gas inhalation,” it continues.
http://rt.com/files/news/1f/47/20/00/18.jpg Riot police use tear gas to disperse the crowd during an anti-government protest in Istanbul June 1, 2013.(Reuters / Murad Sezer) http://rt.com/files/news/1f/47/20/00/19.jpg Turkish protestors arrive in Taksim square after a clashing with riot policemen on June 1, 2013.(AFP Photo / Bulent Kilic) http://rt.com/files/news/1f/47/20/00/03.jpg A woman opens her arms as police use a water cannon to disperse protestors on June 1, 2013 during a protest against the demolition of Taksim Gezi Park in Istanbul (AFP Photo) http://rt.com/files/news/1f/47/20/00/turkey1.jpg Tear gas surrounds a protestor holding a Turkish flag with a portrait of the founder of modern Turkey Mustafa Kemal Ataturk as he takes part in a demonstration in support of protests in Istanbul and against the Turkish Prime Minister and his ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP), in Ankara, on June 1, 2013 (AFP Photo / Adem Altan) http://rt.com/files/news/1f/47/20/00/turkey2.jpg A protestor flashes a victory sign as he takes part in a demonstration in support of protests in Istanbul and against the Turkish Prime Minister and his ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP), in Ankara, on June 1, 2013 (AFP Photo / Adem Altan) Stay tuned as we will continue to monitor the increasingly violent situation in Turkey and bring any updates as they become available.
Related: The Day the People of Turkey Rose Up (http://roarmag.org/2013/06/the-day-the-people-of-turkey-rose-up-in-pictures/)
(http://roarmag.org/2013/06/the-day-the-people-of-turkey-rose-up-in-pictures/)
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[Serpo]

That is a lot of blood


This Erdogan is a typical idiot leader who is bringing down his own leadership because of heavy handed tactics over a peaceful park protest.

It appears that this park maybe his downfall.

[gunDriller]

That is a lot of blood

it does look real. like a fvcking butcher shop too, or a deer-field-dressing session.

one of the things that struck met about the Boston pictures was, some of the blood looked so fake. maybe it was just the light. it was too scarlet.

real blood is more maroon, and also turns darker quickly as it dries out.

[Serpo]

and it seems to reflect the light like a mirror.

[Spectrism]

Only a few were concerned about how the park was to be used.

The police abused them and others then took offense.

So the cops ratchet up their abuse using deadly force recklessly.

They are pushing an outright civil war. Such disregard for people displays their fascist mentallity. It won't be long now before these little groups organize and start overrunning teams fo cops. As the cops change their tactics, it becomes a war of attrition. People disappear into the night. Cops get ambushed at home and alone. Then IEDs start to pop.

[JohnQPublic]

Only a few were concerned about how the park was to be used.

The police abused them and others then took offense.

So the cops ratchet up their abuse using deadly force recklessly.

They are pushing an outright civil war. Such disregard for people displays their fascist mentallity. It won't be long now before these little groups organize and start overrunning teams fo cops. As the cops change their tactics, it becomes a war of attrition. People disappear into the night. Cops get ambushed at home and alone. Then IEDs start to pop.

Let them eat falafal!

[Jewboo]

It won't be long now before these little groups organize and start overrunning teams fo cops. As the cops change their tactics, it becomes a war of attrition. People disappear into the night. Cops get ambushed at home and alone. Then IEDs start to pop.



http://craigatkinsonlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/M_POL_7-300x200.jpg

http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/09/drug_dog.jpg

We can't even buy a .22 bullet now in 2013. What are we going to make these IEDs out of?

???

[Shami-Amourae]

http://craigatkinsonlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/M_POL_7-300x200.jpg

http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/09/drug_dog.jpg

We can't even buy a .22 bullet now in 2013. What are we going to make these IEDs out of?

???

I heard Revolutions usually start when the price of food is like 40% of the common man's income. In other words they can't afford the popcorn, cable, and the couch anymore.

Or we could always follow Jews like Kokesh and attempt violent revolution (which clearly is a dumb idea right now,) and get wiped out of existence and shipped off to FEMA camps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzgdJCuf-GA

[Blink]

“In the last few years, he started to interfere in our personal lives—how many children we can have, abortion, employment of women. A month ago, they closed the theatres and concert halls. Today he even said ‘those marginalist Tweeters are fascists.’"

http://www.vancouverobserver.com/blogs/betweenus/istanbul-protests“ordinary-people-marching-everywhere”

[Spectrism]

We can't even buy a .22 bullet now in 2013. What are we going to make these IEDs out of?
???

You will just have to link up with someone wut gots know-how.

[Neuro]

“In the last few years, he started to interfere in our personal lives—how many children we can have, abortion, employment of women. A month ago, they closed the theatres and concert halls. Today he even said ‘those marginalist Tweeters are fascists.’"

http://www.vancouverobserver.com/blogs/betweenus/istanbul-protests“ordinary-people-marching-everywhere”
Erdogan is projecting. I would say that closing down a popular park in favor of a shopping mall built by his capitalist cronies, that will look like Ottoman army barracks and using up all the countries supply of teargas trying to enforce it, against the clear will of the people, while none of the commercial or public TV channels don't mention a thing about it, is fascism. I have a hard time figuring out an example that would be more fascist in fact.

Yesterday I waived my fee for 6 protesters/patients, that had been exposed to tear gas. One showed me a picture of her boyfriend, who had three from teeth knocked out of his mouth, she told me he lost his job, because he is an opera singer. Another one is a PhD in physics, who had figured out how to make ice in room temperature...

[Serpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb0HiG5AO20&feature=player_embedded#at=225 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb0HiG5AO20&feature=player_embedded#at=225

[Neuro]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL1p5PcCYAE4n_f.jpg#twimg
The owner of Garanti Bank is also the owner of media corporations, refusing to mention the riots and the police brutality. Shops are returning their card readers, and people cancel their accounts in this bank, which is one of the biggest in Turkey...

[Neuro]

Ok people are celebrating here tonight, as Tayyip Erdogan went on a state visit to Marocco, Tunisia and Algeria, the deputy PM, appologized to the people for the plans to build a shopping mall, for the police brutality, etc. IMO it amounts to a coup within the ranks of his own party against his increasingly authoritarian rule. I don't know if it will be followed with a Indepth discussion about governments control of media, but it should otherwise all have been for nothing, apart from the fact that the people feel empowered. As far as I know it is the first time a Turkish government has actually apologized, also it is the first time protesters drove the police away from the Taksim square, and held demonstrations there without the authorities supervising it. Truly I am proud of the Turkish people standing up against tyranny like this. Something the demonstrators have been urging is that this is not a similar thing to the Arab spring, or the Tahrir square uprising. People has rejected fundamentalist Islam, they don't want infringment of their secular lifestyles...

Chears Tayyip!

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

The owner of Garanti Bank is also the owner of media corporations, refusing to mention the riots and the police brutality. Shops are returning their card readers, and people cancel their accounts in this bank, which is one of the biggest in Turkey...

That is one powerful picture. These are business owners who are willing to lose business over justice.

When will we see that kind of 'principles before profits' in this country..

[Neuro]

Now it is safe to save face:



Ergun Özen, the general manager of Turkey’s Garanti Bank, joked to a group of protestors that he was one of the “marauders” at Taksim Square, in an open reference to a title picked by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan for those who have been involved in the week-long demonstrations across the country.


Özen was speaking to the group which came to the front door of the Garanti headquarters in Istanbul to protest the broadcasting policy of NTV, a channel that belongs to Doğuş Group, Garanti’s parent company.


Özen went down to talk to the protestors while some employees were accompanying him, and declared that the bank was not against the protests.


When the protesters reminded him of the “marauder” quote by the prime minister, Özen said the employees of the bank were also joining the protests after work. “I support the Gezi Park action,” he said. “I am a marauder also.” Özen also said that some 1,500 customers had recently canceled their credit cards. Garanti is one of the leading banks in Turkey in terms of assets, and has 8.5 million credit card customers. Meanwhile, NTV, at the heart of the public criticism for poor broadcasting of the major event, apologized to its employees, according to tweets from inside.


“We made a mistake while trying to maintain a balance in an unbalanced situation,” the management reportedly told its employees. “We know that we have to work hard to regain the confidence of the people. We were wrong, we apologize.” Pictures of a destroyed NTV vehicle were posted by protesters.


I call bullshit on the number of closed accounts. It is magnitudes more than 1500, they are lying!

[Neuro]

This is from BBC, IMO, after reading through what Arinc said, I see that the apology was very half hearted, only apologizing for the initial excessive violence, but I don't think that Turkish politicians ever apologized for the violence they have used to suppress their people...

Police in the Turkish city of Istanbul have used tear gas and water cannon against protesters in a fifth night of anti-government demonstrations.


The clashes came hours after Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc apologised for the violent police response to initial protests last week.


Mr Arinc is due to hold a meeting with activists later on Wednesday.


Protests over the demolition of a park in Istanbul have grown into days of unrest across the country.


Mr Arinc apologised to protesters injured in demonstrations opposing the redevelopment of Gezi Park.


He said the original protests were "just and legitimate" and the "excessive use of force" by police was wrong.


Ahead of a proposed meeting in Istanbul, activists issued a list of demands, including the end of plans to demolish the park, a ban on tear gas, the release of arrested protesters and the resignation of top officials blamed for the protest crackdown, the BBC's Mark Lowen in Istanbul reports.


The atmosphere on Istanbul's Taksim Square on Tuesday evening was almost celebratory as a huge crowd of people ranging from football fans to well-heeled professionals gathered, the BBC's Paul Mason reported.


People have been chanting "Have you heard us?" in the hope the government is listening to their demands.


But later, police fired tear gas, water cannon and smoke grenades as they tried to disperse protesters.


In the city of Izmir, there was a festive atmosphere and police kept their distance, though some young protesters earlier smashed security cameras and threw bricks, the BBC's Quentin Sommerville reports.




Turkey's Deputy PM Bulent Arinc: "The use of excessive force shown against the people who initially started this protest... was wrong and it was unfair'
'Undemocratic'


Also in Izmir, state-run Anatolia news agency reported that police had arrested 25 people for tweeting "misinformation".


An official from the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP), Ali Engin, told Anatolia they were being held for "calling on people to protest".


Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Sunday that Twitter was a "menace" being used to spread "lies".


In his comments Mr Arinc called for the demonstrations to end, saying they had been taken over by "terrorist elements".


Mr Arinc's conciliatory remarks contrast with the tougher line taken by Mr Erdogan, who says the protests are undemocratic.


Speaking during a trip to Morocco, Mr Erdogan told reporters: "On my return from this visit, the problems will be solved."


Meanwhile Turkish television station NTV has apologised for failing to cover the initial protests.


The chief executive of the conglomerate that owns NTV, Cem Aydin of Dogus, said criticism of the channel was "fair to a large extent".


"Our audience feels like they were betrayed," he said after a meeting with staff, some of whom resigned in protest at the lack of coverage.


Protesters have turned to social media to spread their message and coordinate demonstrations, the BBC's Sophie Hutchinson reports from Istanbul.


Earlier on Tuesday the left-wing Kesk trade union confederation, representing some 240,000 public sector workers, began a two-day strike in support of the protests and accused the government of committing "state terror".


Another trade union confederation, Disk, has said it will join the strike on Wednesday.


'Authoritarian tendency'


The protests began on 28 May over plans to redevelop Gezi Park near Taksim Square in Istanbul.


They soon mushroomed, engulfing several cities and including political demands.


Officials have confirmed two deaths in the protests. One man died after being shot by an unidentified gunman in the southern city of Antakya.


Another died after being hit by a car that ploughed into a crowd in Istanbul.


The Turkish Human Rights Association, an NGO, said more than 2,800 protesters had been injured across the country, many of them seriously, and that 791 had been detained, of whom "around 500" have since been released.


Mr Arinc said that 244 police officers and 64 protesters had been injured, and more than 70m Turkish lira (£24m; $37m) worth of public damage had been caused.


Protesters accuse the Turkish government of becoming increasingly authoritarian.


Mr Erdogan is still the most popular politician in the country, but he is discovering that a ruling style that his opponents say is autocratic has its limits, the BBC's Middle East Editor Jeremy Bowen reports from Istanbul.

[Neuro]

Interesting make up of the protesters in Istanbul, don't you think?



A majority of the Taksim Gezi Park protesters do not feel close to any political party, according to a recent online survey.


A majority of the Taksim Gezi Park protesters do not feel close to any political party and have said the prime minister’s authoritarian attitude caused the ongoing protests across the country, according to a recent online survey conducted among the protesters.


Seventy percent of the protesters said they did not feel close to any political party, while only 15.3 percent said they felt close to a political party, according to a recent online survey conducted by Esra Ercan Bilgiç and Zehra Kafkaslı, two academics from Istanbul Bilgi University between June 3 and 4.


Only 7 percent of the respondents said the political party they were a member of influenced them in joining the protests. However, the prime minister’s authoritarian attitude was influential for 92.4 percent of respondents attending the protests, while 91.3 of respondents said the police’s disproportionate use of force was influential. A large majority of respondents, 91.1 percent, said the violation of democratic rights influenced them to attend the protests. The silence of media on the demonstration influenced 84.2 percent of the respondents to attend the protests. More than half of the respondents, 56.2 percent, said the cutting of trees in Taksim Gezi Park was influential in their participation in the demonstrations.


What do Turkish protesters want?


A majority of the protesters demanded respect of liberties and an end to police violence while rejecting a military coup against the government.


The rate of those who demanded “an end to police violence” was 96.7 percent, while 96.1 percent demanded “respect of liberties from now on.” Only 37 percent demanded a new political party be established. A total of 79.5 percent of respondents said they did not want a military coup to intervene in Parliament, while 6.6 percent of respondents demanded a military coup.


Who are Taksim Gezi protesters?


A majority of the protesters defined themselves as libertarian and did not vote for the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP), according to the survey. A majority of the protesters who completed the survey, 81.2 percent, defined themselves as “libertarian.” A total of 64.5 percent of the respondents defined themselves as “secular.” Those who did not define themselves as “conservative” totaled 75 percent, while those who did not “vote for the AKP” made 92.1 percent. More than half of the respondents denied being apolitical. Out of 3,000 respondents, 75.8 percent said they had joined the recent protests in Turkey by going out to the streets.


Many people made noise from their balconies by hitting pots or turning off and on their lights in the evenings to support the protests across the country, which started in Istanbul’s iconic Taksim Square to stop a shopping mall project that was to replace Gezi Park there.


Among the respondents, 63.6 percent were between the ages of 19 and 30.


Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan had previously said the Gezi Park project triggered the protests but later the main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) and some extremists intervened on the ground to motivate the demonstrations.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/protesters-are-young-libertarian-and-furious-at-turkish-pm-says-survey.aspx?pageID=517&nID=48248&NewsCatID=341

[Serpo]

A majority of the Taksim Gezi Park protesters do not feel close to any political party


Bit that way myself..............

[JohnQPublic]

A majority of the Taksim Gezi Park protesters do not feel close to any political party


Bit that way myself..............

Therefor you are a Taksim Gezi Park protester!

Your certificate should follow in the mail.

[Neuro]

It should be pointed out that the Taksim Gezi Park protesters, are indeed very different from the average Turk, who has a bit of a difficulty to think for himself. Those are the ones who voted in Erdogan, and most likely will continue to do so, because he is a good Muslim (whatever that means)... I am happy to say though, that only one patient this week was somehow supportive of Erdogan, but evenso she agreed he had gone of his mind lately...

The protests continue, violent clashes in Ankara today, police still use teargas and water cannon vehicles, 25 people were arrested for tweeting about it... This will not end any time soon, but really I am proud of those kids going out risking their health and life against a violent oppressor regime. I met this 34 year old woman today who has been on the barricades every day, and apparently the demonstrators are getting used to the teargas, despite 2 upgrades in strength since the protests started, they taunt the police to throw more at them, is that all you got etc... Really, heroes! Possibly I will go to the square on Saturday...

[mick silver]

there people all over the world trying to take back there goverment and countrys . as we lose more rights here in the good old usa . and almost all the people here are still watching dancing with the fags and dont even see whats happening around the world

[Neuro]

Update: Ok Erdogan is back, and he still plans on building the shopping mall, he's gone insane. There has been violent crackdown on protests in Ankara the last couple of days. 1500 police that have been brought into Istanbul has been forced to sleep in parks for the last 5 days as no accommodation has been arranged for them, and they have been complaining about their living conditions on social medias, ironically the PM says they are one of the main reasons for the current troubles.The Taksim square is still in the hands of the protesters, and according to a recent survey more than 80% say they are libertarian in leaning. A handful of foreigners most of them tourists or students have been arrested, and now the PM says the foreigners are the cause of the troubles. The AK Party says that 160 polices and 60 demonstrators has been injured, while the Turkish medical association says more than 4000 injured protesters across the country...

I think we are coming to a hard confrontation soon in the center of Istanbul. I am planning to go to the square on Saturday...

[JohnQPublic]

Good collection of images:

http://nubiagroup-powerpoint-collection.blogspot.com/2013/06/violents-protests-in-turkey-may-june.html

[osoab]

Did you get arrested Neuro?

[Neuro]

Did you get arrested Neuro?
No, there is no police in the Taksim square, for the last week. Amazing atmosphere! Volunteers have built massive barricades to stop entrance of police crowd control vehicles, at the main entrance road which saw a lot of fighting on Saturday to Monday, I would say it is impenetrable by conventional crowd control vehicles. Further the volunteers have arranged a couple of hospitals, libraries, food distribution from donations, garbage collection. Really, it is a free state, and the square was packed full of I would say at least 200.000 people Yesterday Saturday, celebrating, singing, chanting how stupid the prime minister is, how weak the teargas the police were using was, drinking beer... I think this is one of the free'est places of the world today. We stayed at the square until 1 am...
4982
As far as I understand it the police is out of teargas now, and are awaiting a fresh batch from the US, but this square will not be taken unless with massive bloodshed. That is our greatest fear now. And Erdogan is probably capable of it unfortunately...

[Neuro]

4983
Barricade

[Neuro]

4984
Celebration at 9 PM

[Neuro]

4987
You gassed us...
A message from the demonstrators (chapulcu) to Erdogan!

[Neuro]

4988

[osoab]

What's the situation Neuro. Heard on the nooz radio that they brought it bulldozers.

[Serpo]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4987&d=1370806922http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4988&d=1370807417http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4983&d=1370773743http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4982&d=1370773362http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4984&d=1370774149

[vacuum]

wtf is going on?

You guys need to publish a list of names and home addresses of all the police.

[Neuro]

People are getting really pissed off now. I am in Sweden now, but my wife was in touch with a few friends in Istanbul. One of them were at the square just prior to the crack down, with his 7 year old son. Fortunately he had left. Anyway as I understand it many children are missing after last nights violent crackdown, some of the hotels (like Divan Hotel and Hilton) allowed wounded and children take refuge their, but Police broke in and fired teargas. People were marching towards the Bosphorus bridge to walk across towards Taksim, police responded hard with teargas, my friend who lives 2 miles away from the bridge said that he couldn't stay at his balcony due to heavy clouds of teargas...

People are really not backing down, and the prime minister seems intent on using any means against the Turkish population, in favor of his party. They stopped all public transport in Istanbul, but public buses have been redirected to the outskirts of Istanbul, to ship in AK-party supporters, also the public boats that transport people normaly across the Bosphorus are being used to ship supporters to the Taksim square. Basically public funded transportation has been appropriated by the AK party for their own purpose. Long term Turkey is moving towards becoming a one party state. I am sure the next election will be tainted heavily with election fraud (probably previous was too, but to a lesser extent). Turkey is moving towards one party dictatorship rule, and any dissent, doesn't matter if peaceful or not will be dealt with harshly, unless Erdogan and his followers are stopped now. I believe this fear is what driving a lot of people not to back down now!

[Neuro]

Here is a public bus used to carry AK party supporters:
http://occupygezipics.tumblr.com/post/53105060742/public-buses-in-istanbul-are-being-used-to-carry

[EE_]

People are getting really pissed off now. I am in Sweden now, but my wife was in touch with a few friends in Istanbul. One of them were at the square just prior to the crack down, with his 7 year old son. Fortunately he had left. Anyway as I understand it many children are missing after last nights violent crackdown, some of the hotels (like Divan Hotel and Hilton) allowed wounded and children take refuge their, but Police broke in and fired teargas. People were marching towards the Bosphorus bridge to walk across towards Taksim, police responded hard with teargas, my friend who lives 2 miles away from the bridge said that he couldn't stay at his balcony due to heavy clouds of teargas...

People are really not backing down, and the prime minister seems intent on using any means against the Turkish population, in favor of his party. They stopped all public transport in Istanbul, but public buses have been redirected to the outskirts of Istanbul, to ship in AK-party supporters, also the public boats that transport people normaly across the Bosphorus are being used to ship supporters to the Taksim square. Basically public funded transportation has been appropriated by the AK party for their own purpose. Long term Turkey is moving towards becoming a one party state. I am sure the next election will be tainted heavily with election fraud (probably previous was too, but to a lesser extent). Turkey is moving towards one party dictatorship rule, and any dissent, doesn't matter if peaceful or not will be dealt with harshly, unless Erdogan and his followers are stopped now. I believe this fear is what driving a lot of people not to back down now!

The news calls this a protest, or demonstration...looks like a good old fashion Revolution to me.

[EE_]

Here is a public bus used to carry AK party supporters:
http://occupygezipics.tumblr.com/post/53105060742/public-buses-in-istanbul-are-being-used-to-carry

What are AK party supporters? The demonstrators...er, revolutionaries?

[Neuro]

What are AK party supporters? The demonstrators...er, revolutionaries?
AK party is the ruling party which Erdogan the prime minister is the head of. Translated it means the Justice and Development party. It is of course against Turkish law to use public resources for party promotion. Just like it is against the law to use force against peaceful demonstrators I guess this is 'Justice and Development'

[Neuro]

wtf is going on?

You guys need to publish a list of names and home addresses of all the police.
Good idea! The law in Turkey is that all police, have to have a visible helmet number when they are in riot gear, so that they can be held accountable for abuses, almost all of them have covered up their helmet numbers. I guess that mean, in a legal sense, that they are there, not as police, but as trouble makers...

[Neuro]

The news calls this a protest, or demonstration...looks like a good old fashion Revolution to me.
Yes! I think mainly because of PM Erdogan's refusal to back down an inch, it may very well turn into a revolution, interestingly compared and contrasted to the previous Atatürk revolution, which started in the Anatolian countryside against what was then Constantinople, this one starts in former Constantinople... I like it! It is really the first time since the death of the Ottoman power that Turks have rebelled against government and authority...

[Spectrism]

Good idea! The law in Turkey is that all police, have to have a visible helmet number when they are in riot gear, so that they can be held accountable for abuses, almost all of them have covered up their helmet numbers. I guess that mean, in a legal sense, that they are there, not as police, but as trouble makers...


When it gets to a shooting match, it should be a rule that helmets without numbers are just targets.

[Cebu_4_2]

When it gets to a shooting match, it should be a rule that helmets without numbers are just targets.

That goes without saying. You can have a shotgun in your house. no rifles and no pistols, so obviously no carry.

Here I found y'all a pitcher show: https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/17/world/europe/turkey.html?_r=0

[Cebu_4_2]

What would Izzy do to disperse this crowd?

https://www.nytimes.com/images/2013/06/16/world/europe/17turkey_ss-slide-CLGP/17turkey_ss-slide-CLGP-articleLarge.jpg

Here they wash a ladys face:
https://www.nytimes.com/images/2013/06/16/world/europe/17turkey_ss-slide-Y7U2/17turkey_ss-slide-Y7U2-articleLarge.jpg

[Neuro]

I think this gives a good overall impression on what is going on in Istanbul now:
http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/16/turkey-unrest-clashes-istanbul-erdogan


Istanbul came to a standstill on Sunday as an army of riot police and gendarmerie cordoned off streets and use teargas on protesters in the centre of the city while the prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, staged a rally before hundreds of thousands of supporters at the waterfront.

Some 24 hours after using brute force to clear the focal point of the demonstrations against the government and bulldozing Gezi Park in Taksim Square, where a varied crew of protest groups had been camped out since the beginning of the month, Erdogan ditched all efforts at conciliation at a rally of his Justice and Development party (AKP).


"Taksim is not Turkey," Erdogan declared, in a reference to the city centre square ringed off by riot police on Sunday evening as thousands of demonstrators sought to converge there.


Protest organisers had called for a million-strong demonstration at Taksim Square, but the entire area was cordoned off, making access impossible. Stretches of the motorways encircling Istanbul were also closed by police to try to prevent protesters getting to the city centre.


The opposite conditions applied to government supporters making their way en masse to hear the prime minister. The Istanbul municipality and the AKP laid on buses and other transport to help boost the numbers attending.


Erdogan inveighed against the international media, blaming the BBC and CNN for distorting the drama of the past three weeks in what he repeatedly alleged was an international plot to divide and diminish Turkey.


"You will make your voice heard so anyone conspiring against Turkey will shiver," he told the crowd. "Turkey is not a country that international media can play games on."


He added that the Turkish nation "is not the one banging pots at nights", in reference to what has become a soundtrack to the protests: middle-aged people coming on to their apartment balconies nightly to hammer on kitchen utensils.


The same din was heard across several central Istanbul neighbourhoods on Sunday evening.


While Erdogan addressed the massive crowds in bright sunshine, much of the city was sullen and tense. In several districts middle-aged women kept up a steady racket by beating pots and pans from their balconies as riot police lounged around, sitting on pavement verges.


The police raids, which started on Saturday afternoon and quickly cleared and occupied Gezi Park, included acts of startling brutality that outraged normally apolitical Istanbul citizens, as well as human rights monitors.


Teargas was fired into impromptu medical clinics housed in tents. A luxury hotel on Taksim Square being used as an emergency refuge for victims and for the wounded was repeatedly invaded by the police and teargas fired into the enclosed spaces.


"It was horrible in there," said Mehmet Polat, 32. "They shot teargas inside the hotel several times, the gas rose up to the sixth floor of the hotel, everything was filled with white smoke."


Another young man next to him nodded. "People were shoving each other, panicking, but the police kept attacking us." Both were not giving up. "Our demands are very clear," Polat said. "And until they are met, we are not going anywhere."


But on Sunday Turkey's minister for European affairs, Egemen Bagis, said any civilians entering Taksim Square would be viewed as terrorists.


Gezi Park was completely cleared of the gaudy paraphernalia of pluralist protest that had been its hallmark.


Stands, tents and banners were all gone. The central park fountain, decorated with flags of a wide array of political factions on Saturday morning, was adorned with one single Turkish flag the following morning.


Istanbul's governor, Huseyin Avni Mutlu, said no one would be allowed to return to the park to protest.


Erdogan's confrontational style, his divisive rhetoric and the extreme force used by the police on victims including young children, with one pregnant woman losing her baby on Saturday evening, have tarnished his credentials internationally as a reformist Muslim leader.


But the strong-arm tactics do not appear to have closed down the protests and have sown dismay among many non-political Turks.


One policeman guarding the entrance to Gezi Park said he was not happy with the way things were going: "The government is working against the people, and they are using the police to do it. They are handling it very badly. I hate doing this."


At a mobile clinic on the square, one medic said: "They promised us that they would not attack our field hospital, but they did anyway, firing six rounds of teargas directly into our tent.


"This is against all human rights agreements. A serious crime. Not even in war should medical facilities be attacked. But we will remain here and continue our work."


The Turkish health ministry has been issuing threats in recent days, warning that all health professionals treating protesters during the Gezi Park protests would be prosecuted.


Amnesty International said about 100 people had been detained and were being held incommunicado.


"The authorities are denying due process to those they have detained. The police must release them immediately or disclose their location and allow access to family members and lawyers," said Andrew Gardner, Turkey researcher at Amnesty International.

[Neuro]

Here is another good article giving an overwiew of the Turkish situation:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/turkey-protests-government-fury-at-istanbul-protests-exposes-an-authoritarian-regime-8660309.html

This is far from marking the end of Erdogan's problems, however. What began as a protest in defence of one of Istanbul's few green spaces became a focus for anger against a government which has become nakedly authoritarian. Journalists have been in the frontline, and, last year, more than a fifth of the world's imprisoned journalists were in Turkish jails. But when the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, raised the jailing of journalists at a joint press conference earlier this year, Erdogan snapped that only a handful had been arrested. "They are not imprisoned for their journalistic work," he said, accusing them of plotting a coup, having illegal arms or working for terrorist groups.The rhetoric is typical of a politician who habitually sneers at legitimate expressions of disagreement; his language is inflammatory, verging on paranoid. He has compared abortions with air strikes on civilians, describing them as "a sneaky plan to wipe the country off the world stage". He's even enraged by Caesarean sections. He says every woman should have at least three and preferably five children, plays down Turkey's huge domestic violence problem, and dismisses evidence of a 14-fold rise in "honour" killings between 2002 and 2009.
But cities such as Ankara and Istanbul have substantial populations of modern, educated men and women who are robust in defence of their rights. Millions believe that Erdogan imposes his religious views in a way that far exceeds his democratic mandate. They point to new laws banning the sale of alcohol within 100 yards of a mosque, a prohibition all the more effective because 17,000 new mosques have been built during Erdogan's premiership. They don't like his promise to "raise a religious youth", especially after an official from his AK party tweeted recently that atheists "should be annihilated".
In the modern world, there is a limit to how much of this stuff reasonable people will tolerate. In the past couple of weeks, Turkey's profoundly intolerant prime minister has discovered the limits of trying to govern without consent.
politicalblonde.com
Twitter: @polblonde

[Neuro]

Here are pics where the police are found to mix jennix teargas into the water of their riot controll water canon vehicles:
http://occupygezipics.tumblr.com/post/53107134457/what-the-police-are-adding-to-water-they-spray-on

[EE_]

Here are pics where the police are found to mix jennix teargas into the water of their riot controll water canon vehicles:
http://occupygezipics.tumblr.com/post/53107134457/what-the-police-are-adding-to-water-they-spray-on

They should get a few dozen flame throwers to use on the demonstrators...go all the way.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6PdsPkQFSI0/S_0-JZ5rYyI/AAAAAAAABSk/XWtepFM6GB0/s1600/flamethrower_straight.jpg

[vacuum]

but on sunday turkey's minister for european affairs, egemen bagis, said any civilians entering taksim square would be viewed as terrorists.




the turkish health ministry has been issuing threats in recent days, warning that all health professionals treating protesters during the gezi park protests would be prosecuted.


wow

[JohnQPublic]

Here are some more pics of chemicals used:

Photos surface from Turkey showing toxic and chemical gas canisters that were used to attack protesters in Istanbul. One photo even shows bullet casings that were apparently fired on protesters. (http://intellihub.com/2013/06/03/dozens-of-photos-showing-toxic-and-chemical-gas-canisters-used-on-protesters-in-turkey/)



Vali'nin kimyasal yalanı: 'Bu fotoğrafta gül suyu mu koyuyorlar TOMA'ya?' (http://haber.sol.org.tr/devlet-ve-siyaset/valinin-kimyasal-yalani-bu-fotografta-gul-suyu-mu-koyuyorlar-tomaya-haberi-74824)

Here's a tone of general pics:

http://occupygezipics.tumblr.com/

[JohnQPublic]

At some points do some of these cops grow a conscience and realize what they are doing?

[EE_]

Here are some more pics of chemicals used:

Photos surface from Turkey showing toxic and chemical gas canisters that were used to attack protesters in Istanbul. One photo even shows bullet casings that were apparently fired on protesters. (http://intellihub.com/2013/06/03/dozens-of-photos-showing-toxic-and-chemical-gas-canisters-used-on-protesters-in-turkey/)



Vali'nin kimyasal yalanı: 'Bu fotoğrafta gül suyu mu koyuyorlar TOMA'ya?' (http://haber.sol.org.tr/devlet-ve-siyaset/valinin-kimyasal-yalani-bu-fotografta-gul-suyu-mu-koyuyorlar-tomaya-haberi-74824)

Here's a tone of general pics:

http://occupygezipics.tumblr.com/

Clearly a red line has been crossed.

[Neuro]

At some points do some of these cops grow a conscience and realize what they are doing?
I do think that a few of them think or start realizing what they are up to is total bullshit. But they were trained to swallow the bullshit their superiors have been feeding them, hell they were selected for their ability to swallow large amounts of bullshit. I don't think we are likely to see any major rebellion within the ranks of the police force. However if the military were to be called in due to police losing control, I don't think it would take long for defections to occur, the military has been trained to defend the secular nature of the Turkish state, and would ideologically be on the same side of the protesters re that. Certainly the military's power position has been significantly weakened over the last few years, with much of the top brass in jail, together with influential secular journalists, in the Ergenekon witch hunt, started by Erdogan. But quite possibly individual military units, will get involved if a massacre were to happen to the demonstrators for instance. They have after all mothers, sisters, fathers and brothers among the demonstrators, and I am sure many young men's blood is boiling in the military stationed in South Eastern Turkey fighting bullshit wars, while they consider what is going on in Istanbul, Ankara and Izmir is of outmost importance to Turkey's future...

[Libertarian_Guard]

At some points do some of these cops grow a conscience and realize what they are doing?

Not more than 1%.

And that's my high side estimate.

[Libertytree]

At some points do some of these cops grow a conscience and realize what they are doing?

Last week I was reading an article and one of the cops was interviewed, speaking anon he said himself and many other cops do not like what is being ordered and are now questioning the orders they are being given. This struck me earlier today when reading about the military possibly being called in, is it because dissention is starting to crop up within the cops?

[Cebu_4_2]

Out of the hundreds of pictures whats up with this guy?

https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/f5e1b3587579435098f4a27f17c69224/tumblr_mogl8mY7wG1ste7qoo1_1280.jpg

[gunDriller]

Out of the hundreds of pictures whats up with this guy?

https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/f5e1b3587579435098f4a27f17c69224/tumblr_mogl8mY7wG1ste7qoo1_1280.jpg

there's a short circuit between Castro (in San Francisco) and Turkey in the Space-Time continuum.

that guy is dressed for the Exotic Erotic ball. he stepped out of his apartment on Market Street and ended up in Istanbul.

this is a job for the Men in Black.

http://blog.ctreal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Men_in_Black_2.jpg

[Neuro]

Interesting turn, for the last 6 hours an alone standing man stood silently watching the Turkish flag at the opposite side of Taksim square, after a while he was joined by a few more, and now they are hundreds, maybe thousands...

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BM_kjEXCMAEbWjM.jpg
Standing Man is a new superhero?

here is more info:
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-protester-starts-new-civil-disobediance-act-in-taksim.aspx?pageID=238&nID=48998&NewsCatID=339#.Ub-KiD4Cq6E.twitter

[Serpo]

Well it beats Clubbed Man

[Neuro]

Here's a few pics showing how it started with The Standing Man:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BM_ZzwSCcAAsnpM.jpg

[Neuro]

Just came in, the pigs arrested Standing Man!

[osoab]

Just came in, the pigs arrested Standing Man!

For Loitering?

[JohnQPublic]

For Loitering?

I forsee standing man t-shirts in our future.

[Neuro]

Last week I was reading an article and one of the cops was interviewed, speaking anon he said himself and many other cops do not like what is being ordered and are now questioning the orders they are being given. This struck me earlier today when reading about the military possibly being called in, is it because dissention is starting to crop up within the cops?
No, there just isn't enough cops to cope, and here deputy PM Arinç is saying that the army may be called in...

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/army-may-step-in-to-stop-protests-if-need-be-deputy-pm-arinc.aspx?PageID=238&NID=48946&NewsCatID=338

... However if/when army is called in the ruling AK Party needs to make extra certain that the troops are loyal to them, which is by no means a certainty, it is a core principle within the military to protect the secular constitution of Turkey, which AK Party has trampled, and this has been the main reason for military coups in the past of Turkeys history, no doubt most of the top brass that saw themselves as strong defenders have been jailed, and the rest are afraid, or at least have been, if not we would have already seen a military coup over the transgressions that ruling AKP are responsible for over the last weeks...

[Neuro]

I forsee standing man t-shirts in our future.
The design is already made:
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BM_giFXCcAAdcxH.jpg

[Neuro]

For Loitering?
Don't be ridiculous, standing still silently, is a vehement act of terrorism!

[Serpo]

Don't be ridiculous, standing still silently, is a vehement act of terrorism!

Almost like a standing army.............a definite threat

[JohnQPublic]

I hope we don't get the naked guy t-shirts (but probably will).

[Mouse]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5023&stc=1

[Neuro]

The icons of the Turkish revolution:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/011acbfd9b0951ff2b509c60b4de9d4b/tumblr_mol8kwSjcl1sukbavo1_500.jpg
Those of you who have followed this thread will be able to recognize most here. I must say some very creative people are at the core of this just movement, that started small 3 weeks ago.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/011acbfd9b0951ff2b509c60b4de9d4b/tumblr_mol8kwSjcl1sukbavo1_500.jpg

[JohnQPublic]

Standing Man has gone viral. Now on Yahoo. Intelligence OP?

Turkey's 'Standing Man': Can a lone protester change history? (http://news.yahoo.com/turkeys-standing-man-lone-protester-change-history-115500339.html)

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TA3hvMoMAY

[Serpo]

Standing Man has gone viral. Now on Yahoo. Intelligence OP?

Turkey's 'Standing Man': Can a lone protester change history? (http://news.yahoo.com/turkeys-standing-man-lone-protester-change-history-115500339.html)




There was the other standing man ....in China in front of those tanks.

[Horn]

There was the other standing man ....in China in front of those tanks.

Guess he managed to buy them a 1000 year guaranteed internet firewall?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CroiMURk8SU&feature=endscreen

[osoab]

Hey Neuro, any credence to the claims that the Turk .gov is adding acid to the water cannons?

http://www.muhalifgazete.com/haber/68275/polis-sucustu-yakalndi.html

[Neuro]

Hey Neuro, any credence to the claims that the Turk .gov is adding acid to the water cannons?

http://www.muhalifgazete.com/haber/68275/polis-sucustu-yakalndi.html
I think it is more likely they are adding tear gas/pepper spray chemicals to the water in the TOMA's. There is photo evidence, earlier in the thread of police adding chemicals used for tear gas in the water cannons, I think the burns are from that, but who knows...

[osoab]

I think it is more likely they are adding tear gas/pepper spray chemicals to the water in the TOMA's. There is photo evidence, earlier in the thread of police adding chemicals used for tear gas in the water cannons, I think the burns are from that, but who knows...

That was my thought too. The fuzz might have gotten a little overzealous in the chemical adding.

[osoab]

Hey Neuro, what's up with Turkey these days?

I watched this interview of Sibel Edmonds from a few days ago.

Good interview.

Sibel Edmonds Explains the CIA's "Reverse Engineering" of Erdogan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAiAFqXPwZ8&list=UU7TvL4GlQyMBLlUsTrN_C4Q&feature=share

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAiAFqXPwZ8&list=UU7TvL4GlQyMBLlUsTrN_C4Q& feature=share


Stories are all from late December.

Turkish Lira Plunges To New Record Low As Government Obstructs "Graft" Probe

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)



Turkish Stocks, Bonds, Lira Collapse As Erdogan Fires Prosecutor, Asks "Who He Works For?"

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
How Turkey Put A Prompt End To Its Dramatic Corruption Investigation (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-22/how-turkey-put-prompt-end-its-dramatic-corruption-investigation)


From Tuesday.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
Turkish Lira Crumbles To New Record Low As Erdogan Blames Fed Not Politics (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-21/turkish-lira-crumbles-new-record-low-erdogan-blames-fed-not-politics)

Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 01/21/2014 - 10:55

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/01/20140121_TRY_1.png


"It is wrong to link [the Turkish Lira's] fall to the corruption probe," blasted Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan, explaining that the Lira's fall "is linked to the Federal Reserve's actions." Since the taper was announced the Lira has collapsed over 12%, trading at 2.269 to the USD, a record low for the troubled nation's currency. Of course, the timing is useful for the PM to explain his nation's demise (as it is also proving a good excuse for Thailand - with massive outflows amid its riots; and Ukraine) but it seems the problems on the streets of Turkey are anything but going away. Today's drop in the Lira (the 7th in a row) follows a somewhat surprising "disastrous for their credibility" decision by the Turkish Central Bank to leave rates unchanged (and still warn of inflation).

[Neuro]

It is a very confusing time now... It is truly chaotic what is going on primarily at government level. But I do think the video you posted above with Sibel Edmonds is a good start at trying to grasp the underlying reasons for where Turkey is right now... This week I'm in Sweden though... I'll try and write more about it later!

[osoab]

How does this affect your business Neuro?



http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) World Markets React To Turkey's 425bps Rate Hike (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-28/world-markets-react-turkeys-450bps-rate-hike)

Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 01/28/2014 - 18:09
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/01-overflow/20140128_turkeyisfixed3_0_0.png


Judging by the reaction from SocGen (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-28/socgens-exuberant-response-turkish-action-governor-basci-you-have-avoided-domino-cri) and JPY crosses (and thus global equity markets), the Turkish Central Bank's decision - to tighten aka ubertaper -has solved all the tapering, tantruming, turmoiling problems in markets. TRY obviously dumped on the news (now at 2.18 -2100 from highs). JPY crosses instantly exploded higher, automatically lifting US (Dow +60) and Japanese (NKY +110) stock futures markets before they closed. Gold fell very modestly ($1). JPY continued to weaken and when markets re-opened, gold dropped a little more but no sustained pressure; Dow is now +110 from pre-Turkey, NKY +175pts; S&P futures are up 10points on the news as stops are run to 1800 but the EEM ETF rallied around 1% (only).

[Neuro]

How does this affect your business Neuro?



http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) World Markets React To Turkey's 425bps Rate Hike (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-28/world-markets-react-turkeys-450bps-rate-hike)

Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 01/28/2014 - 18:09
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/01-overflow/20140128_turkeyisfixed3_0_0.png
probably more stock brokers...

seriously though chiropractic tends to do well in times of economic distress... I had my best week ever last time I was in Istanbul ten days ago (back again now)...

[Neuro]

Istanbul is rioting again, on the year anniversary... I have seen some horrible footage (don't have time to find it), the police is killing people with teargas now...The police detained a CNN reporter while reporting from Taksim square. I am leaving tomorrow.

[Norweger]

Istanbul is rioting again, on the year anniversary... I have seen some horrible footage (don't have time to find it), the police is killing people with teargas now...The police detained a CNN reporter while reporting from Taksim square. I am leaving tomorrow.

Detaining CNN reporters isn't a bad thing IMO.

[Neuro]

Detaining CNN reporters isn't a bad thing IMO.
Neither do I, but he was detained for telling the truth of the situation... Anyway 25000 police vs at this time maybe 50-100,000 protestors. Heavy teargas attacks!

[Neuro]

Just got a message from the airline to be 3 hours before departure at Istanbul airport, because of congestion at passport control. Never got a message like this before. Wonder what is going on, deportation of foreigners?

[Cebu_4_2]

New naked scanners to play with.

[Spectrism]

Turkey is likely to be the main highway for the end days armies. It will also likely be depleted of assets as they march through. It is a good time to be vacating the area.

Somehow I think Turkey will be completely overthrown and ally with Iran, Syria, Libya & Egypt.... and Russia.

[Horn]

Just got a message from the airline to be 3 hours before departure at Istanbul airport, because of congestion at passport control. Never got a message like this before. Wonder what is going on, deportation of foreigners?

Custom agents probably have been reassigned to riot duty, so there will only be two guys left to check your bags.

[Libertytree]

Custom agents probably have been reassigned to riot duty, so there will only be two guys left to check your bags.

Or?....they'll be 20 of'em checking anything and everything, taking 2 or 3 times as long.

[Cebu_4_2]

I coat my nads and junk with castor oil when I have to fly, if they want to play it is messy. If I pass I wash it off.

[osoab]

Hey Neuro, so was Erdogan's election rigged?

[Neuro]

Hey Neuro, so was Erdogan's election rigged?
This time I don't think so... Against him was a Kurdish candidate, who most Turks wouldn't vote for, the representative for the secular opposition party, was an Islamist, so very few of that persuasion would vote for that dude. To be electable you need the signature of 20 MP's, so you only had three candidates. Possibly the rigging was done when the secular opposition party (CHP) picked their candidate, but I wouldn't rule out stupidity either. They could have been told by marketeers they needed an Islamic candidate to capture the disenchanted (with Erdogan) Islamic voter...

[Horn]

I coat my nads and junk with castor oil when I have to fly, if they want to play it is messy. If I pass I wash it off.

Dress like James Bond, then talk like an Appalachian.

They'll be so confused they'll run away from you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03iwAY4KlIU

[Neuro]

Another thing is that TPTB may have offered Erdogan the presidency to sort of get him out of the highlight of politics, and they offered him this position were he would be protected from prosecution, along with his family, but he wouldn't have to much real influence in day to day politics. The last couple of years Erdogan has shown signs of insanity and lack of grasp of reality, increasingly so. But among his supporters he has remained extremely popular... He wouldn't go away quietly if he was forced out. Possibly the main opposition party agreed to go with an extremely weak candidate to get Erdogan out of mainstream politics...

Just My Own Thoughts...

[gunDriller]

Another thing is that TPTB may have offered Erdogan the presidency to sort of get him out of the highlight of politics, and they offered him this position were he would be protected from prosecution, along with his family, but he wouldn't have to much real influence in day to day politics. The last couple of years Erdogan has shown signs of insanity and lack of grasp of reality, increasingly so.

that's how he's portrayed in the Zio-media, or he's really that way ?


I've been admiring Erdogan because he's been speaking out against Israel, on behalf of the Palestinians.

[Neuro]

that's how he's portrayed in the Zio-media, or he's really that way ?


I've been admiring Erdogan because he's been speaking out against Israel, on behalf of the Palestinians.
I think he is insane. However he has been right on the Israel issue vs the Palestinians. But he has also been an ardent supporter of ISIS, sending weapons to them in huge numbers in Syria. Actually his ambition has been a revival of the Sunni Kaliphate, with him as the Kaliph...

[osoab]

Hey Neuro,

Is Ergodan just out to annihilate some Kurds?

Just saw his pic. He looks choseny.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/6/1/1275414565261/Recep-Tayyip-Erdogan-005.jpg

[PatColo]

PressTV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ExM8wDemw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ExM8wDemw

[Horn]

Somebody better warn Malaysian airlines, they're liable to get redirected to fly over it.

I find it amazing that Syria has been able to hangon as some sort of lynch pin this entire time,

they must have some friends on the inside...without them none of this would be possible.

[Neuro]

Hey Neuro,

Is Ergodan just out to annihilate some Kurds?

Just saw his pic. He looks choseny.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/6/1/1275414565261/Recep-Tayyip-Erdogan-005.jpg
It is a definitive possibility. As mentioned in Patcolos posted video above. Turkey has been supportive of pretty much every group in Syria opposed to Assad, including Islamic State, as long as it hasn't been Kurdish. They crushing Islamic State now I don't think is very likely, I think they may try and undermine the Kurds primarily, and possibly dump some smoke grenades on ISIS for show. Another angle is that Erdogans AK-party failed to get a parliamentary majority in the June elections. And they may have started this mini-war for re-election tactical purposes.

Erdogan has totally lost his mind though. He claimed in a televised speech a couple of weeks ago, that Ottoman muslims 350 years ago landed on the moon...