Ruby Ridge, and everything all makes sense now.

[General of Darkness]

They killed Weaver's son a mother and a baby over a shotgun who didn't just not wanting to be in the system.

This video is great, because it showed that NO ONE showed up to defend them. You're on you fuckers. PREP and then PREP more.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28kvrPXj-6U

MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT NO ONE DID ANYTHING after Randy's wife's death, his son's death, and the murder of the baby. NO ONE fought back, NO ONE. Let that sink in.

[gunDriller]

had to look it up -

Ruby Ridge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge
August 21 – August 31, 1992

Waco
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
February 28 – April 19, 1993

OKC Bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
April 19, 1995

"Randy Weaver, a former Iowa factory worker and U.S. Army combat engineer,[1] moved with his family to northern Idaho during the 1980s in order to "home-school his children and escape what he and his wife Vicki saw as a corrupted world."[2][3] Vicki, the religious leader of the family, believed that the apocalypse was imminent and believed her family would survive the apocalypse in a remote mountainous area. They bought twenty acres of land on Ruby Ridge in 1983 and began building a cabin.[4] The Weaver property was located in northern Idaho in Boundary County, on a hillside on Ruby Creek opposite Caribou Ridge near Naples.[5]

In 1984, Randy Weaver and neighbor Terry Kinnison had a dispute over a $3,000 land deal. Kinnison subsequently lost the lawsuit and was ordered to pay Weaver an additional $2,100 in court costs and damages. Kinnison wrote letters to the FBI, Secret Service, and county sheriff alleging Weaver had threatened to kill the Pope, the President, and John V. Evans, governor of Idaho. In January 1985, the FBI and the Secret Service started an investigation. In February, Randy and Vicki Weaver were interviewed for hours by two FBI agents, two Secret Service agents, and the Boundary County sheriff and his chief investigator.[6] Although the Secret Service was told that Weaver was a member of the Aryan Nations and that he had a large weapons cache at his residence, Weaver denied the allegations and no charges were filed.[7]

The investigation noted Weaver associated with Frank Kumnick, who was known to associate with members of the Aryan Nations. Weaver told the investigators that neither he nor Kumnick were members of the Aryan Nations, and described Kumnick as "associated with the Covenant, Sword and Arm of the Lord."[8] On February 28, 1985, Randy and Vicki Weaver filed an affidavit with the county courthouse alleging that their personal enemies were plotting to provoke the FBI into attacking and killing the Weaver family.[6] On May 6, 1985, Randy and Vicki Weaver sent a letter to President Ronald Reagan claiming that Weaver's enemies may have sent the president a threatening letter under a forged signature. No evidence of a threatening letter surfaced; however, the 1985 letter was cited by the prosecutor in 1992 as Overt Act 7 of the Weaver family conspiracy against the federal government.[9][10]"

i can understand why people don't entirely understand the details of Ruby Ridge - there was a lot of back & forth before the final deadly confrontations.

sounds like one of the things that MIGHT have set things in motion was the dispute with Kinnison over the land deal. after the deal went South, Kinnison tried to incriminate Weaver - bringing him to the attention of the US gov. i think that was the sequence of events.

[JohnQPublic]

Obviously bad folks- see the highlighted text. Thank goodness we have the ATF:

The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Covenant,_The_Sword,_and_the_Arm_of_the_Lord)
"...The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) later determined that CSA had obtained 155 Krugerrands, one live light antitank rocket, 94 long arms, 30 handguns, 35 sawed-off shotguns and machine guns, one heavy machine gun, and a quantity of C-4 explosives..."

[gunDriller]

Obviously bad folks- see the highlighted text. Thank goodness we have the ATF:

The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Covenant,_The_Sword,_and_the_Arm_of_the_Lord)
"...The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) later determined that CSA had obtained 155 Krugerrands, one live light antitank rocket, 94 long arms, 30 handguns, 35 sawed-off shotguns and machine guns, one heavy machine gun, and a quantity of C-4 explosives..."

interesting -
"The CSA was an organization which believed that doomsday was imminent, and the 224-acre[2] compound that was set up in Elijah became a community for its members. There they trained their members in paramilitary operations. The group strongly believed in white supremacy, and was strongly anti-Semitic. Like other prominent anti-Semitic conspiracy groups, they referred to the United States Government as ZOG, for Zionist Occupied Government."


Heavens to Betsy - ZOG !

"The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (CSA) was a radical Christian Identity organization formed in 1971 in the small community of Elijah in southern Missouri, United States."

almost seems like the term ZOG has been in use since at least 1971.


+ they were into Krugerrands and knew the value of guns. sounds familiar !

[Blink]

Times have not changed. Dissidents will be prosecuted, detained, tortured and murdered and "nobody" will come to their aid. As long as its "not me" mentality. I've discussed this with a lot of like minded people that think "bugging out" is the answer. All you do is isolate yourself to be picked off at a later more convenient date by the authorities (nazi's). Unity is the answer to tyranny. Unfortunately, everyone is more focused on themselves and their own little world. We're f*cked.........

[Twisted Titan]

I wonder how Kinnison Feels that a wife and son got killed because he was soured over a land deal???

I wonder what goes through mind after all these years??

[ImaCannin]

Guns don't kill people, ATF agents do!

I have a shirt with these words on it and I proudly wear it while I strut my firearm around town!

http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/shirtsquare-dkp.jpg

[PlatinumBlonde]

It sounds like Kinnison was the catalyst for the event. Sounds similar to Edgar Steele as well, I think. Didn't he have a falling out with an electrician or plumber or something??

[gunDriller]

Guns don't kill people, ATF agents do!

I have a shirt with these words on it and I proudly wear it while I strut my firearm around town!

http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/shirtsquare-dkp.jpg

http://www.thoseshirts.com/dkp.html
T-shirt for sale.

http://www.zazzle.com/guns_dont_kill_people_atf_agents_do_bumper_sticker-128367163453479798
the bumper sticker.

[General of Darkness]

I forgot to bump this last week in remembrance of their assassinations.