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EE_
13th June 2013, 11:35 AM
How many narcissistic pricks do we have on gsus?


Size Does Matter (in Signatures)
by Nick Seybert

The finding: Companies led by CEOs who have large signatures—an indicator of narcissism—perform worse than ones led by CEOs with small signatures.

The research: Aiming to judge the impact that narcissistic leaders have on organizations, Nick Seybert and his colleagues measured the signatures of 605 CEOs on a decade’s worth of annual reports from nearly 400 S&P 500 companies. Large signatures—which have been linked to narcissistic personality traits such as dominance and outsize ego—were positively associated with overspending, lower returns on assets, and—paradoxically—higher CEO pay relative to that of industry peers.

The challenge: Can a little thing like a big autograph really predict an executive’s performance? Professor Seybert, defend your research.

Seybert: Obviously, we can’t say that everyone with a large signature is a narcissist and therefore a bad leader. But the study I did with Sean Wang of UNC and my colleague at Maryland Charles Ham does show that when an annual report has a big CEO signature on it—as measured by the area of a box drawn around the signature’s end points, and controlling for name length—a firm will, on average, spend more on capital goods, R&D, and acquisitions than its industry peers, yet show worse sales and sales growth over the next three to six years. More recently, we found a correlation with patents: The larger the signature, the fewer patents and patent citations, suggesting a lack of innovation. The findings make sense because big signatures indicate narcissism, and narcissistic leaders often behave in ways that lead to poor outcomes—for example, by dominating discussions, ignoring criticism, or belittling employees. We also found a link between big signatures and higher pay relative to peers. Perhaps that’s because narcissists are good at masking or shifting blame for substandard performance.

Small Signatures, Better Results
Here are signatures of several CEOs the researchers studied (at the size published in their firms’ annual reports) and the industry-adjusted return on assets their companies produced during the years noted. Big autographs are correlated with underperformance.

HBR: You’re making quite an assumption here about signature size and narcissism. Is it really a valid indicator?

The best indicator is a high score on a narcissistic personality inventory, but I don’t know many CEOs who would submit to that sort of evaluation. You can also look at individual behavior, but that’s not feasible for a broad-based study of hundreds of leaders—never mind that narcissists can be pretty effective at hiding their true colors. So we had to find another, easily accessible yet still reliable measure. We turned to a series of studies that Richard Zweigenhaft of Guilford College did showing that people with higher self-esteem and more dominant personalities had larger signatures. Since both those traits are associated with narcissism, we thought it fair to make the leap. And indeed, when Zweigenhaft saw our paper, he ran his tests with a small sample to look specifically for that correlation and found evidence suggesting that there is one. Others studying the link between CEO narcissism and corporate performance have considered things like pay or the prominence of the person’s picture in the annual report. But more people than the CEO influence those data points. A signature, by contrast, comes directly from the leader, probably without much thought.

Couldn’t a signature be sized up or down in an annual report, just like a picture?

We asked several companies about that, and the standard practice seems to be for the CEO to sign on a tablet so there’s a digital copy that can be printed on any corporate document. Most firms say the copy size is pretty close to the original and that it doesn’t change from year to year. We also measured signature size by the number of components the CEO includes in his or her name. Does he use a full first name or a nickname? Any middle initials or middle names? In our scoring system, someone named William Christopher Lloyd Gunderson Jr. would get a 0 for signing Bill, 1 for Bill Gunderson, 3 for William C. Gunderson, and 5 for writing out his full name. The findings were the same: CEOs with more components in their signatures presided over worse performance, on average.

Which CEOs have the biggest signatures and, by association, the biggest egos?

Rupert Murdoch of News Corp. is one example. We’ve all heard stories about his autocratic style, and a lot of people thought he shifted blame and acted anything but humble during the recent phone hacking scandal. And, sure enough, his signature is quite large.

But many people want leaders to be hard-charging, dominant, and confident. Aren’t there some benefits to being a narcissist?

There certainly can be. Take Steve Jobs. Unfortunately, we couldn’t find his signature on Apple’s annual reports—and believe me, we tried—but, according to all the stories about him, he definitely had some narcissistic traits. He wouldn’t listen. He berated people. He always had to have his way—from refusing to accept customers’ demands for Adobe Flash to insisting on a glass screen for the iPhone. He also happened to be a genius and a visionary with exceptional taste. Not every narcissist is that lucky. Most people who have grandiose ideas about their own abilities and refuse input from others make worse decisions. And even the most successful narcissists, like Jobs, leave collateral damage—frustrated employees, lost talent, damaged industry relationships—that can hurt their companies even if the financial performance looks good. You also have to realize that anyone being considered for a CEO position is going to have a healthy dose of self-esteem. We’re talking about people who take confidence too far.

So how do you tell the difference between the two? Should people who hire and fire CEOs start measuring signatures?

The underlying message is that corporate boards and investors need to be on the lookout for narcissists because they can have a detrimental effect on performance—especially when it comes to younger, R&D-intensive firms, where a single decision from a CEO can have a much bigger impact. When there are warning signs—like the behaviors I’ve described—boards need to closely monitor corporate decision making, ROI, and compensation schemes. As for signatures, they’re easy to look at, and they can be subconscious indicators of personality. Of course, now that our paper’s out, people will be thinking about it. They might start downsizing their signatures.

How big is your signature?

http://hbr.org/2013/05/size-does-matter-in-signatures/ar/1

Ponce
13th June 2013, 02:12 PM
In the beginning my signature was nice and clear but when I started my business I had to sign off about ten checks a day so that I changed my signature, now it is only a ecrible that you cannot read or even guess..... when I got my new passport I signed my new way and on the side I signed the old way and wrote "old signature".....I got my new passport with no problems.

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madfranks
13th June 2013, 02:17 PM
My old boss who on any given day could sign hundreds of documents, his signature was a tiny scribble that resembled his initials.

EE_
14th June 2013, 07:45 AM
Narcissism Epidemic: Why There Are So Many Narcissists Now
An author of The Narcissism Epidemic explores why today's kids—and adults—feel so entitled
By Lindsay Lyon

April 21, 2009 RSS Feed Print

Narcissism, or excessive self-love, is marked by bloated confidence, vanity, materialism, and a lack of consideration for others. Yet narcissistic personality traits have become so pervasive in American culture that they threaten to transform us into a nation of egomaniacs, research psychologists Jean Twenge and W. Keith Campbell say in their new book The Narcissism Epidemic: Living in the Age of Entitlement.
Twenge and her team at San Diego State University also report today in a new study that narcissism continues to spread quickly among college students, especially young women. Considering how cultural influences on girls have changed in the past decade, that's not surprising, says Twenge. Plastic surgery rates have jumped since the 1990s, and materialism is increasingly being emphasized in song lyrics, for example, she says.

U.S. News caught up with Twenge to discuss the trend. Edited excerpts of the interview:

We're constantly being told by talk shows and pop psychology that we need to love ourselves. Is that advice wrong?
Having a basic sense of self-worth is a good thing. But when those feelings cross over into narcissism, it becomes toxic for other people, for the society, and for the individual in the long run.

The world seems increasingly cutthroat and competitive. Don't we have to be narcissistic in order to succeed?
Sure, the world is competitive, no argument there, but narcissism isn't going to help you succeed. Narcissists aren't any more successful than anybody else. Narcissism helps you succeed in the short-term—it's great for trying out on American Idol—but in most professions and in the long run, nobody likes a jerk.

When things are going well, [for example, during] the boom market, narcissists do pretty well. When things don't go so well, narcissists crash even more spectacularly than anybody else. That's actually a really good metaphor for our economy in the last two years.

What's an example of how narcissism can have that result?
Narcissism contributed to the economic crisis. Many people had narcissistic overconfidence [when they said], "Yeah, I can afford that million-dollar house," and lenders said, "Sure, I know you'll pay off that loan," and, well, fantasy collided with reality, and the consequences have been worse for the economy than anything since the Great Depression. Obviously, there were lots of causes for that, but I think an unrecognized cause is that narcissistic overconfidence.

Narcissistic overconfidence?
There are these great studies where you bring people into the lab and ask them questions, then ask them how confident they are in their answers. Then, they bet a certain amount of money based on how confident they are. Well, narcissists are always very, very confident, so in those situations, they end up losing a lot of money because they think they're smarter than they actually are. A twist on that study is to ask them made-up questions, like, "Have you ever heard of..." and make up the name of somebody. Narcissists will say, "Yeah. Of course I've heard of him."

Your book title calls narcissism an "epidemic." That's a strong word. Is narcissism really on the rise to that degree?
This all started when we did a study a couple years ago finding that narcissism was increasing substantially among a nationwide sample of college students. We compared that effect to the obesity epidemic, and we found that the rise in narcissism was just as big as the rise in obesity in adults. That got us thinking: If obesity is an epidemic, then we may have an epidemic of narcissism on our hands.

This past summer [a study of] a nationally representative sample of 35,000 Americans found that 6 percent of Americans, or 1 out of 16, had experienced [clinical narcissistic personality disorder (NPD)] at some point in their lives. And there was a big generational effect. You'd expect that people who are older would have a higher percentage of having experienced this because they've lived so many more years. But only 3 percent of people over 65 had had any experience with NPD, compared with almost 10 percent of people in their 20s. Given that you can only diagnose this when someone is 18, that's a pretty short number of years in which to have this experience. That was another pretty big indication that this was an out-of-control epidemic.

What's fueling the rise in narcissism?
The four causes that we identify in the book are parenting, celebrity culture, media and the Internet, and easy credit. For example, with parenting, in an attempt to raise kids with self-esteem, many parents will tell their kid they're the best ever and they'll treat them like royalty, placing the child at the center of the household. In a limited way, that's fine, but it's often taken too far. When you put a kid on a pedestal, that type of parenting, it's been shown, leads to narcissism.

With celebrities, you watch the Real Housewives of New York City [or] My Super Sweet 16, and the narcissistic traits are just obvious in every episode. Reality TV shows in general are highly narcissistic, and [reality TV stars] are the most narcissistic of all celebrities, in the study that Dr. Drew Pinsky did. What concerns me about that is that those are the shows that are really popular among young people. They're supposed to show real life; they're not supposed to be scripted or fictionalized. What they really are is a showcase for narcissistic people and behavior that makes narcissism seem normal.

What about the Internet and easy credit?
MySpace and Facebook often encourage people to highlight only narcissistic parts of their personality. People rarely talk about how much they like reading War and Peace on MySpace. Instead, it's that picture that makes me look hot, it's that cool party I went to, it's the cool friends that I have, it's here's my cool music. With young teens, I wonder if that will shape their identities so that in real life they'll start emphasizing those parts of their personalities more.

Finally, easy credit allows people to look better off than they actually are. It fuels their sense of entitlement because they can get something without having to pay for it [immediately]. We're now seeing the consequences of that because, guess what, you do have to pay for it.


Are other cultures as narcissistic as ours?
If you look around the world, narcissism does seem to be spreading. In China, there's Little Emperor syndrome—there's a lot of talk about the new generation being very self-centered. In Scandinavia, there's this great study showing that in newspapers, individualistic words are going way up and communal words are going way down. But the U.S. is pretty high in narcissism. I like to say that we're not necessarily No. 1 in terms of performance, but we're No. 1 in thinking that we're No. 1.

What's at risk if we don't slow this narcissism epidemic?
We're in danger of becoming a nation of people who are just focused on themselves and don't care if they harm other people in the process of their own success.

What's the cure? To promote self-hatred?
People ask us that sometimes. Parents will say, "Oh, do you mean we should start insulting kids?" No. But it's really common for parents to tell children, "You're special." That [promotes] narcissism. That's not [building] self-esteem because being special is being unique and better than other people, and it connotes things like special treatment. I think what parents mean is, "You're special to me." You don't need to tell your kid that they're the best ever, but you can say, "I love you." It's probably what you mean anyway, and it also promotes connection rather than difference and standing out.

In general with kids, place more focus on empathy. While most parents do try to teach their kids to be nice, the overall cultural push is to teach them to succeed and to believe in themselves, instead of teaching empathy for others. We really need to shift that. Ironically, empathy for others will actually help you succeed more than believing in yourself.

You're a parent of a young child, with one on the way. Any advice for parents who want to steer clear of raising a little Narcissus?
With young kids, be careful how much you ask them what they want. Give limited choices instead of having them direct the whole situation. With 2- and 3-year-olds, it's not a good idea to ask, "What do you want for dinner?" because the answer is, "Cookies." And it's not a good idea to ask, "Do you want to go to bed now?" because the answer is, "No." When you do that, you put the situation in the control of the child and you feel like you have to go along with what they've expressed. That type of parenting does seem to lead to more narcissism later on.

You're better off giving limited choices: "Do you want to eat chicken or fish?" Kids love that. It's a win-win. They love having control, but then as a parent, you're not letting the 2-year-old run the household.

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2009/04/21/narcissism-epidemic-why-there-are-so-many-narcissists-now?page=3

Ponce
14th June 2013, 08:47 AM
I read long ago that the less eligible that your signature is the more confidence you had in yourself....

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Cebu_4_2
14th June 2013, 10:23 AM
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madfranks
14th June 2013, 10:44 AM
I read long ago that the less eligible that your signature is the more confidence you had in yourself....

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I read the opposite, that an illegible signature shows that you don't care how you present yourself to others. I'm not one to judge a man based on his signature though, it seems too little to base a whole man off of.

midnight rambler
14th June 2013, 10:56 AM
I read the opposite, that an illegible signature shows that you don't care how you present yourself to others. I'm not one to judge a man based on his signature though, it seems too little to base a whole man off of.

Have you ever considered it may show that you don't give a shit what anyone else thinks of you and/or what you do??

Hitch
14th June 2013, 10:57 AM
April 21, 2009 RSS Feed Print

Narcissism, or excessive self-love, is marked by bloated confidence, vanity, materialism, and a lack of consideration for others.

Simple answer, ^^ is what attracts women. Traits that attract women, get passed on through the generations through breeding.

This is why every swinging dick has a facebook account and a "look at me" complex.

Ponce
14th June 2013, 11:16 AM
Have you ever considered it may show that you don't give a shit what anyone else thinks of you and/or what you do??

Your got it, in reality a signature means nothing unless you have a back up for it......... the are ways to emitate anyones signature.....it takes practice but it can be done......if my name is already on the paper my signature is really nothing and many people use a thumd print wich to me is more secured.

You ever seen Herr Hitler signature?.......just call me Herr Ponce.

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mick silver
14th June 2013, 07:31 PM
like a horse