View Full Version : McDonald's closing all restaurants in Bolivia as nation rejects fast food
Serpo
13th June 2013, 02:13 PM
(NaturalNews) McDonald's happy image and its golden arches aren't the gateway to bliss in Bolivia. This South American country isn't falling for the barrage of advertising and fast food cooking methods that so easily engulf countries like the United States. Bolivians simply don't trust food prepared in such little time. The quick and easy, mass production method of fast food actually turns Bolivians off altogether.
Sixty percent of Bolivians are an indigenous population who generally don't find it worth their health or money to step foot in a McDonald's. Despite its economically friendly fast food prices, McDonald's couldn't coax enough of the indigenous population of Bolivia to eat their BigMacs, McNuggets or McRibs.One indigenous woman, Esther Choque, waiting for a bus to arrive outside a McDonald's restaurant, said, "The closest I ever came was one day when a rain shower fell and I climbed the steps to keep dry by the door. Then they came out and shooed me away. They said I was dirtying the place. Why would I care if McDonald's leaves [Bolivia]?
"Fast food chain remained for a decade, despite losses every yearThe eight remaining McDonald's fast food shops that stuck it out in the Bolivian city's of La Paz, Cochabamba, and Santa Cruz de la Sierra, had reportedly operated on losses every year for a decade. The McDonald's franchise had been persistent over that time, flexing its franchise's deep pockets to continue business in Bolivia.Any small business operating in the red for that long would have folded and left the area in less than half that time.
Even as persistent as McDonald's was in gaining influence there, it couldn't continue operating in the red. After 14 years of presence in the country, their extensive network couldn't hold up the Bolivian chain. Store after store shut down as Bolivia rejected the McDonald's fast food agenda. Soon enough, they kissed the last McDonald's goodbye.Deep cultural rejectionThe McDonald's impact and its departure from Bolivia was so lasting and important, that marketing managers immediately filmed a documentary called, "Why McDonalds's went broke in Bolivia.
"Featuring, cooks, nutritionist, historians, and educators, this documentary breaks down the disgusting reality of how McDonald's food is prepared and why Bolivians reject the whole fast food philosophy of eating.The rejection isn't necessarily based on the taste or the type of food McDonald's prepared. The rejection of the fast food system stemmed from Bolivian's mindset of how meals are to be properly prepared. Bolivians more so respect their bodies, valuing the quality of what goes into their stomach.
The time it takes for fast food to be prepared throws up a warning flag in their minds. Where other cultures see no risk, eating McDonald's every week; Bolivians feel that it just isn't worth the health risk. Bolivians seek well prepared, local meals, and want to know that their food was prepared the right way.This self respect helps Bolivians avoid processed "restructured meat technology," often used by fast food joints like McDonald's.The McRib: 70 ingredients all restructured into oneDid you know that the McRib is processed with 70 different ingredients which include azodicarbonamide, a flour-bleaching agent often used in producing foamed plastics? McRib's are basically "restructured meat technology" containing a mixture of tripe, heart, and scalded stomach.
Proteins are extracted from this muscle mixture and they bind the pork trimmings together so they can be molded in a factory. The McRib is really just a molded blob of restructured meat, advertised and sold like fresh ribs. There's nothing real about it, the preparation or the substance. In fact, McRibs really came about because of a chicken shortage. The restructured meat technology approach kept the McRib on the menu, despite the shortage, and the profits continued rolling in.This is the very disgusting idea that the Bolivians have rejected in their country.The Bolivian rejection of McDonald's has set a proper example for the rest of the world to follow.Sources for this article include:http://www.hispanicallyspeakingnews.comhttp://www.globalresearch.cahttp://www.theblaze.comhttp://www.trueactivist.com/mcdonalds-goes-belly-up-in-bolivia/http://www.naturalnews.com/040752_Bolivia_McDonalds_restaurants_fast_food.htm l
madfranks
13th June 2013, 02:22 PM
this documentary breaks down the disgusting reality of how McDonald's food is prepared and why Bolivians reject the whole fast food philosophy of eating.The rejection isn't necessarily based on the taste or the type of food McDonald's prepared
So it's not based on the food itself, but just how it's prepared? Sounds like the Bolivians need to learn how to wash their hands and clean up their kitchens.
Serpo
13th June 2013, 02:39 PM
So it's not based on the food itself, but just how it's prepared? Sounds like the Bolivians need to learn how to wash their hands and clean up their kitchens.
they dont trust food that is prepared so quickly
madfranks
13th June 2013, 02:41 PM
they dont trust food that is prepared so quickly
That's interesting, so they don't have street vendors or fast food in Bolivia?
osoab
13th June 2013, 05:59 PM
"I'm loving it."
Serpo
13th June 2013, 06:12 PM
That's interesting, so they don't have street vendors or fast food in Bolivia?
Well I for one never go near a MD and others like that and I respect the Bolivian people more in their wise choice
who would want to eat at MD when you can get this from a vendor
MD food is utter CRAP
Cochalita
Cochabamba, Bolivia
Restaurants › Fast food
There's tasty street food and snacks all over Cochabamba, with the papas rellenas (potatoes filled with meat or cheese) at the corner of Achá and Villazón particularly delicious. Great salteñas and empanadas are ubiquitous; for the latter, try Cochalita, which has a range of delicious fillings and also does ice creams. Locals swear by the anticuchos (beef-heart shish kebabs) that sizzle all night at the corner of Av Villaroel and Av América.
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Imma Sumac
Potosí, Bolivia
Restaurants › Fast food
Most Bolivians acknowledge, when pushed, that Potosí does the best salteñas - juicy, spicy, and oh-so-tasty. Go no further than Imma Sumac, where one of these delicious items goes for around US$1; there's a courtyard space to eat in. Cheese or meat empanadas are sold around the market until early afternoon, and in the evening, street vendors sell cornmeal and cheese humitas.
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Read more: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/bolivia/the-southwest/restaurants/fast-food#ixzz2W92FY544http://www.lonelyplanet.com/bolivia/the-southwest/restaurants/fast-food
Cebu_4_2
13th June 2013, 07:15 PM
I would eat anything off street venders before a MakDongolds, street vendors want repetitive business, Mc Dees's don't care. dont matter where it/ther are.
ximmy
13th June 2013, 08:14 PM
According to television commericals, mcdonalds is for the black community anyway...
Mouse
13th June 2013, 08:40 PM
da da da da dahhhhh I am a welfare queen
horseshoe3
13th June 2013, 08:59 PM
According to television commericals, mcdonalds is for the black community anyway...
That's because blacks have more discretionary money. They may not have more total money, but almost all of their money is free to use on whatever they want. Whites have to think about things like paying taxes and planning for the future. They just don't have as much to blow on instant gratification.
Hitch
13th June 2013, 10:30 PM
According to television commericals, mcdonalds is for the black community anyway...
I don't watch TV, so I wouldn't know. Recently, I had one of the best burgers I've had, in my life, at a little place off I80. Right across the street was a McD's, the drive through packed. I asked the cook/waiter fellow...this is the best burger I think I've ever had...how is it possible so many people eating at a McD's right next door?!?
He couldn't answer me, but thanked me. I left a big tip and very full and content.
horseshoe3
14th June 2013, 07:14 AM
I asked the cook/waiter fellow...this is the best burger I think I've ever had...how is it possible so many people eating at a McD's right next door?!?
He couldn't answer me, but thanked me. I left a big tip and very full and content.
Familiarity. There's one in every town and they're all the same. It ain't good, but at least you know what you're getting.
ximmy
1st July 2013, 02:47 PM
That's because blacks have more discretionary money. They may not have more total money, but almost all of their money is free to use on whatever they want. Whites have to think about things like paying taxes and planning for the future. They just don't have as much to blow on instant gratification.
That is so true. Today I went to a burger joint for lunch in the city. There was a woman with her sprogs looking for change in her purse to pay for her food order. Each sprog had it's own drink.
I could not afford to do that.
gunDriller
1st July 2013, 03:00 PM
That is so true. Today I went to a burger joint for lunch in the city. There was a woman with her sprogs looking for change in her purse to pay for her food order. Each sprog had it's own drink.
I could not afford to do that.
had to look that one up.
"once disparaging term for a child, now often used affectionately. (Chiefly British)"
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sprog
from a practical point of view, if you have 4 sprogs to take care of, it's often easier to just buy them a drink.
it gets them to shut up for 5 minutes.
sort of like television as a form of baby-sitting.
i think motherhood is a difficult endeavour, so little tricks like buying the sprogs each their own drink is a legitimate tactic.
as far as "Mickey D's" - i'm afraid to eat their hamburgers myself.
do white people ever use the term "Mickey D's", or is that a black term, derived from black-oriented advertising ?
Madison Avenue's contribution to Ebonics ?
ximmy
1st July 2013, 03:10 PM
had to look that one up.
"once disparaging term for a child, now often used affectionately. (Chiefly British)"
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sprog
from a practical point of view, if you have 4 sprogs to take care of, it's often easier to just buy them a drink.
it gets them to shut up for 5 minutes.
sort of like television as a form of baby-sitting.
i think motherhood is a difficult endeavour, so little tricks like buying the sprogs each their own drink is a legitimate tactic.
as far as "Mickey D's" - i'm afraid to eat their hamburgers myself.
do white people ever use the term "Mickey D's", or is that a black term, derived from black-oriented advertising ?
Madison Avenue's contribution to Ebonics ?
Yeah, I could see each kid with their own personal (unshared) things. It's just making juice at home is pennies a glass, at the fast food it is $1.00 or more.
Twisted Titan
1st July 2013, 03:34 PM
Even as persistent as McDonald's was in gaining influence there, it couldn't continue operating in the red. After 14 years of presence in the country, their extensive network couldn't hold up the Bolivian chain
Dam...... those jokers sat on a losing hand for almost 15 years.
They got pockets the size of the grand canyon
Ponce
1st July 2013, 05:27 PM
Bolivia is one of the poorest country in the world and because everyone knows how to cook they can make two full complete meals for the price of a BigMac, fries and a Coke.
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Serpo
1st July 2013, 05:39 PM
Bolivia is one of the poorest country in the world and because everyone knows how to cook they can make two full complete meals for the price of a BigMac, fries and a Coke.
V
Thats right ,the drive through has a water trough for horses (just kidding)
http://www.pulsarimagens.com.br/bancoImagens/134020.jpg
Cebu_4_2
1st July 2013, 06:41 PM
I had this crap today after about a year and a half. The first few bites weren't all that bad but as I continued it didn't get better. After the half way point the only way to eat what they call fries was to eat them in conjunction with the burger thing, Then I had to releave myself, this thing was like roto rooter man. Came back and had to force myself a couple more bites, the fries would no longer go down, like voluntarily eating something really bad. Had to pitch the rest down the mountain and even then the vultures landed but refused to peck at it more than 2 times...
This shit's not even for the birds.
Silver Rocket Bitches!
1st July 2013, 07:17 PM
"Why McDonald's went broke in Bolivia"
The documentary includes interviews with cooks, sociologists, nutritionists, educators, historians and more, where there is a general agreement: the rejection is neither to the hamburgers nor to their taste. The rejection is in the minds and mentality of Bolivians. Everything indicates that "fast food" is literally the opposite of a Bolivian's conception of how to prepare a meal.
In Bolivia, the food to be good requires, in addition to taste, care, and hygiene, a lot of preparation time. This is how a consumer values the quality of what goes into the stomach, also by the amount of time it took to make the meal. Fast food is not for these people, the Americans concluded.
Cebu_4_2
1st July 2013, 07:26 PM
"Why McDonald's went broke in Bolivia"
The documentary includes interviews with cooks, sociologists, nutritionists, educators, historians and more, where there is a general agreement: the rejection is neither to the hamburgers nor to their taste. The rejection is in the minds and mentality of Bolivians. Everything indicates that "fast food" is literally the opposite of a Bolivian's conception of how to prepare a meal.
In Bolivia, the food to be good requires, in addition to taste, care, and hygiene, a lot of preparation time. This is how a consumer values the quality of what goes into the stomach, also by the amount of time it took to make the meal. Fast food is not for these people, the Americans concluded.
I like Bolivia, must do research.
osoab
1st July 2013, 08:10 PM
I like Bolivia, must do research.
Your wife would probably fit in. :D
Seriously, you are a little blunt.
Santa
1st July 2013, 09:33 PM
I made my 2 grand nieces cry cuz I wouldn't take em to McDonald's. Now the little sprogs think I'm mean. It's a touchy subject.
ximmy
2nd July 2013, 01:33 PM
I made my 2 grand nieces cry cuz I wouldn't take em to McDonald's. Now the little sprogs think I'm mean. It's a touchy subject.
5078
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5078&d=1372793576
Neuro
3rd July 2013, 07:38 AM
I guess the US is doomed to have a massive trade deficit with Bolivia now. All that cocaine not traded for reconstituted slaughterhouse leftovers. In the long run the US may have to carpet bomb Bogota!
JohnQPublic
3rd July 2013, 09:52 AM
I guess the US is doomed to have a massive trade deficit with Bolivia now. All that cocaine not traded for reconstituted slaughterhouse leftovers. In the long run the US may have to carpet bomb Bogota!
Neuro- that is sort of like going into Iraq because Afghani's purportedly bombed the WTC! (Bogota is Columbia). You might try sweet and peaceful.
PatColo
16th August 2013, 08:27 PM
figured I'd throw this article into this thread, rather than starting a new one. "mysterious fibers, hair-like structures" suggests it may also belong in a Morgellons thread?
Friday, August 16, 2013
McDonald's Chicken McNuggets found to contain mysterious fibers, hair-like structures; Natural News Forensic Food Lab posts research photos, video (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/08/mcdonalds-chicken-mcnuggets-found-to.html)
http://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/articles/Food-Investigations-Chicken-McNuggets.jpg (http://www.naturalnews.com/041646_Chicken_McNuggets_forensic_food_analysis_st range_fibers.html)
Bleurrrrggh!!!
(http://www.naturalnews.com/041646_Chicken_McNuggets_forensic_food_analysis_st range_fibers.html)
(NaturalNews (http://www.naturalnews.com/041646_Chicken_McNuggets_forensic_food_analysis_st range_fibers.html)) Today we announce the first investigation conducted at the Natural News Forensic Food Laboratory, the new science-based research branch of Natural News where we put foods under the microscope and find out what's really there.
Earlier today I purchased a 10-piece Chicken McNuggets from a McDonald's restaurant in Austin, Texas. Under carefully controlled conditions, I then examined the Chicken McNuggets under a high-powered digital microscope, expecting to see only processed chicken bits and a fried outer coating.
But what I found instead shocked even me. I've seen a lot of weird stuff in my decade of investigating foods and nutrition, but I never expected to find this...
MORE (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/08/mcdonalds-chicken-mcnuggets-found-to.html)
Neuro
17th August 2013, 02:29 AM
Neuro- that is sort of like going into Iraq because Afghani's purportedly bombed the WTC! (Bogota is Columbia). You might try sweet and peaceful.
My bad otherwise I think Bogota sounds so Bolivia... Besides none of the supposed hijackers or leaders where Afghanis. But I guess the Talibans asking for evidence that Bin Laden was behind WTC attacks to hand him over to justice, was a too hard nut to crack so it was better spending a few thousand billions "re-structuring" the entire Muslim world. So to be on the safe side now the best way of dealing with the bloody Hispanics is to carpet nuke South America, from Tijuana downwards...
Serpo
17th August 2013, 04:43 PM
figured I'd throw this article into this thread, rather than starting a new one. "mysterious fibers, hair-like structures" suggests it may also belong in a Morgellons thread?
Friday, August 16, 2013
McDonald's Chicken McNuggets found to contain mysterious fibers, hair-like structures; Natural News Forensic Food Lab posts research photos, video (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/08/mcdonalds-chicken-mcnuggets-found-to.html)
http://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/articles/Food-Investigations-Chicken-McNuggets.jpg (http://www.naturalnews.com/041646_Chicken_McNuggets_forensic_food_analysis_st range_fibers.html)
Bleurrrrggh!!!
(http://www.naturalnews.com/041646_Chicken_McNuggets_forensic_food_analysis_st range_fibers.html)
(NaturalNews (http://www.naturalnews.com/041646_Chicken_McNuggets_forensic_food_analysis_st range_fibers.html)) Today we announce the first investigation conducted at the Natural News Forensic Food Laboratory, the new science-based research branch of Natural News where we put foods under the microscope and find out what's really there.
Earlier today I purchased a 10-piece Chicken McNuggets from a McDonald's restaurant in Austin, Texas. Under carefully controlled conditions, I then examined the Chicken McNuggets under a high-powered digital microscope, expecting to see only processed chicken bits and a fried outer coating.
But what I found instead shocked even me. I've seen a lot of weird stuff in my decade of investigating foods and nutrition, but I never expected to find this...
MORE (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/08/mcdonalds-chicken-mcnuggets-found-to.html)
The Bolivians dont know what they are missing
brosil
17th August 2013, 05:29 PM
I had a long talk with a woman who did quality control at a Tyson' plant. They were making nuggets for the clown at that time. She said that to call them chicken was an exercise in fantasy. True, there were some chicken parts in there but probably not any you would recognize.
horseshoe3
17th August 2013, 06:58 PM
That is so true. Today I went to a burger joint for lunch in the city. There was a woman with her sprogs looking for change in her purse to pay for her food order. Each sprog had it's own drink.
I could not afford to do that.
Is it bad form to share a drink with unlimited free refills? I would do it because I'm cheap and I like sticking it to the man, but I think most people would be too embarrassed to try it.
do white people ever use the term "Mickey D's", or is that a black term, derived from black-oriented advertising ?
Madison Avenue's contribution to Ebonics ?
I remember hearing it when I was a kid about 25 years ago - from my mother. I think it may have been an organic phrase that they latched on to and exploited.
PatColo
17th August 2013, 07:00 PM
I had a long talk with a woman who did quality control at a Tyson' plant. They were making nuggets for the clown at that time. She said that to call them chicken was an exercise in fantasy. True, there were some chicken parts in there but probably not any you would recognize.
You've prolly heard the 'stubborn rumor' that Kentucky Fried Chicken changed their name to KFC coz the chicken-resembling foodstuff they sell could no longer technically be called 'chicken'.
In preps for this reply in which I wanted to add a credible link or 2 substantiating said 'rumor', in a Startpage.com search for "KFC not chicken (https://startpage.com/do/search?cmd=process_search&cat=web&query=KFC+not+chicken&language=english&no_sugg=1&ff=&abp=-1)", the top results were a mix of articles both 'confirming' & 'debunking' it. Consider the waters successfully muddied-- presumably the best the 'debunkers' (re-bunkers) could achieve.
Without spending an hour researching the TWOOF, I just know intuitively at this point to steer clear of the major corporate fast food chains!
PatColo
17th August 2013, 07:12 PM
do white people ever use the term "Mickey D's", or is that a black term, derived from black-oriented advertising ?
Madison Avenue's contribution to Ebonics ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmL9ilpaHto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmL9ilpaHto
Serpo
17th August 2013, 09:32 PM
You've prolly heard the 'stubborn rumor' that Kentucky Fried Chicken changed their name to KFC coz the chicken-resembling foodstuff they sell could no longer technically be called 'chicken'.
In preps for this reply in which I wanted to add a credible link or 2 substantiating said 'rumor', in a Startpage.com search for "KFC not chicken (https://startpage.com/do/search?cmd=process_search&cat=web&query=KFC+not+chicken&language=english&no_sugg=1&ff=&abp=-1)", the top results were a mix of articles both 'confirming' & 'debunking' it. Consider the waters successfully muddied-- presumably the best the 'debunkers' (re-bunkers) could achieve.
Without spending an hour researching the TWOOF, I just know intuitively at this point to steer clear of the major corporate fast food chains!
Killing Food Corp
Hitch
18th August 2013, 09:55 AM
You've prolly heard the 'stubborn rumor' that Kentucky Fried Chicken changed their name to KFC coz the chicken-resembling foodstuff they sell could no longer technically be called 'chicken'.
What I had heard was that they wanted to get rid of the 'Fried' part, because at the time fried foods were getting a lot of bad media press.
Then again, I also heard that McDonald's started putting 100% American beef labeling, meaning the they use 100% of the cow, bones, organs, and all to get mulched up and called hamburger.
Hatha Sunahara
18th August 2013, 01:47 PM
Well, if McDonalds shut down because they were operating at a loss in Bolivia for 15 years, and if it's because the Bolivians don't think highly of fast food, it's not likely that there are any other fast food joints in Bolivia. No Burger King, no KFC, no Taco Bell, no Pizza Hut, No Wendy's, no White Castle--no fast food chains? This is a very interesting country--worthy of some research. Could it have something to do with the fact that many of the populated areas are at altitudes greater than 10,000 feet. Water boils at a lower temperature at that altitude. I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
Here's a link to a credible explanation of why some countries have McDonalds and others don't:
http://foodbeast.com/content/2013/08/07/why-some-countries-dont-have-mcdonalds-from-iceland-to-bolivia/#.UhElfqyvDrE
It's not 'cultural'--it has more to do with money. McDonalds operates successfully in rich countries where people have money to throw away on trash food like they serve. People in poorer countries would rather get much more value for their money.
Hatha
monty
18th August 2013, 01:56 PM
Well, if McDonalds shut down because they were operating at a loss in Bolivia for 15 years, and if it's because the Bolivians don't think highly of fast food, it's not likely that there are any other fast food joints in Bolivia. No Burger King, no KFC, no Taco Bell, no Pizza Hut, No Wendy's, no White Castle--no fast food chains? This is a very interesting country--worthy of some research. Could it have something to do with the fact that many of the populated areas are at altitudes greater than 10,000 feet. Water boils at a lower temperature at that altitude. I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
Hatha
That is a good point. Bogotá, Colombia is close to 9000 feet. The locals use lots of pressure cookers.
But I think your second point, is the real reason. Bolivia is extremely poor. People don't have money to throw away at McDonalds.
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gunDriller
18th August 2013, 03:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmL9ilpaHto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmL9ilpaHto
"when you pop the top, their Panties Drop" - i wonder how much the brewer got charged for that advertising jingle ?
milehi
18th August 2013, 04:07 PM
There's no McDonalds here in Iceland. I have seen two KFCs, one with a Taco Bell attached. Every other town I've travelled through does not have fast food. The food sucks here though unless you like bread, crakers, cheese and meat. The restaurants can't cook for shit. I've been surviving on beer and scotch.
PatColo
18th August 2013, 06:15 PM
"when you pop the top, their Panties Drop" - i wonder how much the brewer got charged for that advertising jingle ?
that malt liquor ad is a satire, guessing SNL? Mad TV? the YT description doesn't say. "Seal of excellence from the US Gov" ?! LOL.
What I had heard was that they wanted to get rid of the 'Fried' part, because at the time fried foods were getting a lot of bad media press.
That's one of the points which Snopes makes in refuting the 'rumor'. http://www.snopes.com/food/tainted/kfc.asp
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