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JohnQPublic
18th June 2013, 10:07 PM
TWA Flight 800 investigators break silence in new documentary, claim original conclusion about cause of crash is wrong
(http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/18/twa-flight-800-investigators-break-silence-in-new-documentary-claim-original/)
"...A group of whistleblowers, including a number of aviation experts, have come forward in a new documentary to claim that the official explanation for the crash of TWA Flight 800 was wrong and a gas tank explosion did not bring down the flight off the coast of Long Island 17 years ago.


However, the six whistleblowers, all part of the original investigation team, stopped short of saying the plane was shot down..."

"...“..This team of investigators who actually handled the wreckage and victims’ bodies, prove that the officially proposed fuel-air explosion did not cause the crash,” reads a statement by the producers of the film, which will debut on cable network EPIX next month. “They also provide radar and forensic evidence proving that one or more ordinance explosions outside the aircraft caused the crash.” However, the statement said they did not speculate about the source or sources of any ordinance explosions..."

"...They indicated they would elaborate more in a Wednesday media briefing..."



[Hope they live till then. They may get a "visit" tonight. Maybe one or more of their children will shoot-up a theater or something?- JQP]

JohnQPublic
19th June 2013, 07:44 AM
Filmmaker asserts new evidence on crash of TWA Flight 800 (http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/19/us/twa-crash-claim/)
CNN


includes video

CNN has no choice but to report on this.

"...The documentary, "TWA Flight 800," will premiere July 17..."

Twisted Titan
19th June 2013, 09:41 AM
If your not going to go all the way.

Sit the hell down as you get in the path of those who are willing to do something.

gunDriller
19th June 2013, 10:50 AM
they were testing the AEGIS missile-defense system in Long Island Sound in 1998, at the time of this incident.

the missile that apparently hit Flight 800 was the target missile, the one the missile defense system was supposed to shoot down with another missile. i think. it is very difficult to get good clear information about this incident.

it may be helpful to dig into background info. about one of the contractors, TRW-Northrop Grumman.

specifically, the Nira Schwartz case.

http://www.niraschwartz.com/Case_96_3065_RSWL.html

http://www.niraschwartz.com/consulting_us_government.htm

http://www.niraschwartz.com/government_corruption.htm

"And there was not one honest Judge in the City of Sodom [Los Angeles] and not in the City of Gomorrah [San
Francisco]

Here I am providing a list with the Fraud; Corruption; crashing Whistle Blowers; made by my Government and
its agencies ARMY/BMDO/DOJ/GBI/DOJ to conceal from the Public that NMD/EKV technologies will NOT
protect the Nation against atomic/germs of enemy Missile attack."


thought that was funny.

one caveat - Schwartz is an Israeli citizen. working with a Top Secret clearance, and equipped with a Ph.D., hired by TRW to work on missile defense.

she may that most paradoxical of contradictions - an honest Israeli Jew.

but in any case, i thought the reference to Sodom & Gomorrah was funny.


the Schwartz case gives people some insight into the military contractor culture.

I also suggest the movie, "Falcon and the Snowman".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087231/

I worked for TRW/ Northrop Grumman and had an older co-worker who worked with the team that had the spying incident. with Sean Penn as the rogue employee, and Timothy Hutton as his buddy-in-espionage.

one of the centers of the Jewish-Israeli-Missile Defense complex is "Space Park", in Redondo Beach. they are one of the biggest employers in the county.


i got a chance to use the EMI lab in Space Park for testing on a radio design. they have an entire football field sized building dedicated just to EMI. i got to watch one of their more experienced engineers test something i had designed. the whole thing was very educational.

i suggest it as a possible employer for other G-S.us members. chances are, you will end up witnessing something very interesting and possibly not legal, or moral.

i trust other G-S.us members to have a conscience, that's why i make the suggestion. plus i like talking shop but if you work in that world, you are limited in what you can say.


i think that is one of the reasons that whistle-blowing in a "national security environment" is stressful. after you leave, you can no longer have those 4 PM de-compression, shoot-the-breeze, and Mug-Root-beer drinking sessions in the manufacturing building cafeteria.

i once met one of Nira Schwartz's attorneys. he told me that i should watch the movie, "The Insider" to get a better idea of what Nira Schwartz went through
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0140352/


if you read Ms. Schwartz's writing, you get some idea of how hard they clamp down on someone who merely points out a defect in the missile defense system.

the promise of shooting down a missile - hitting a bullet with a bullet - is a very comforting carrot for the MIC to dangle in front of civilian populations. they get tens of billions of dollars in annual funding. about 1/3 of that goes to pay the salaries of Northrop Grumman employees.

2/3 of those billings are gross profit.

2/3 of tens of billions of dollars a year - that is the dirty treasure that was endangered by the TWA Flight 800 shootdown, and by the Nira Schwartz case.

I did not work on missile defense, i just witnessed the culture. it's basically a military culture, with a military chain of command, fused with the more creative open culture of Silicon Valley. in the former type of culture, you never question your boss. in the latter culture, the managers walk around to inspire some informal Q&A. it's a wierd corporate culture.

Twisted Titan
19th June 2013, 12:02 PM
A military test gone bad?

That is very much a plausible scenario.

As they have the means and incentive to cover up a boondogle of that size.

Serpo
19th June 2013, 12:33 PM
It was a missile ,everyone new at the time but the ptb said something else.

gunDriller
19th June 2013, 12:53 PM
A military test gone bad?

That is very much a plausible scenario.

As they have the means and incentive to cover up a boondogle of that size.

Sanders - that's his last name. wrote a whole book about it. got samples of the fabric from the airplane, with solid-rocket propellant on them.

then the US gov. crucified Sanders for having pieces of the crash site, even though they were given to him by family members.


short version - the US gov. is not your friend and is worthy of Zero Trust.