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JohnQPublic
20th June 2013, 10:36 AM
I just nailed the Holonet BIG TIME (http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/) Jim Stone, June 18 2013
Permalink (http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/nailedtheholonet.html) This may sound like an old theme here that is boring to you, but I suggest you pay attention to this particular rant BIG TIME It is now obvious that all the supercomputers that have been purchased by various intelligence agencies are likely not for snooping. They are for faking a completely alternate internet universe, to cause people to not see the world as it really is I just did an ambush log in to the forum server, which I have never accessed since starting the forum over new at a new location three months ago. I did this from a clean Linux boot through a Wifi connection I have never used before, and made the log in the first thing I did, to deny my machine the time it would need to synchronize with any spookware. Totally clean log in. And what I saw blew me away.

Here is what is happening - There were approximately 450,000 hits to the front page list of the forum, where you can see the discussions. But after that, GET THIS - THE NEWS FEED PAGE GOT 87 TOTAL HITS TO THE LOCAL SERVER. AND WHEN YOU HIT THE FORUM THROUGH THE "FRONT DOOR", THAT THREAD HAS 868 COMMENTS. HOW DOES A PAGE GET 87 HITS AND 868 COMMENTS? ANSWER - THAT PAGE IS HOSTED ON A BLACK OP SERVER, NOT MINE. After seeing the legitimate stat page for the forum issued from the legitimate server, the connection was terminated and I could not re connect through it even to only access google. And to that I have to say, SCREW YOU, I ALREADY SAW IT. What this means? The front page to the forum gets hit through the legitimate domain access, and upon the initial hit, you get secretly re-directed to the spook server and my server gets no hits at all. And I don't care if some genius mails me saying that they have software that can detect secret re-directs and he is not seeing that happen at all, THE STAT PAGE ON THE LEGITIMATE SERVER PROVES THIS IS GOING ON, and I really don't care if even with a security program people cannot see it, because that is meaningless when the DNS server is owned by the people
performing the redirect. They can show your machine anything they want.

What this means to truth site Web admins - Your stats are not likely to be true to life. Chances are, your site is in fact running on a spook server, and they do perfect spoof log ins and re-directs, and you don't even know it, it just looks like you are administering your own server. And when you look at stats, they are probably not coming from your own server. People are not hitting your own server. Chances are, you are not seeing things as they really are, and your readers are not seeing things as they think they are. The only reason anyone would have to run your site (or my forum) on a server other than yours or mine is to create a separate holonet reality for everyone accessing it so that key comments can be destroyed, key messages censored, and spooks get the first hit at public opinion, all in the background, ON YOUR OWN WEB SITE.

And to that I have to say: When unfettered peaceful discussion and resolution is made impossible, VIOLENCE THEN BECOMES THE ONLY ANSWER. To the elite: There is only a certain extent to which you can get away with screwing the public without direct physical consequence. The public has proven to be very tolerant so far, but for many you have already crossed the line.

[JQP- I hope it does no have to come down to his last comment]

midnight rambler
20th June 2013, 10:45 AM
From out of chaos, order.

Cebu_4_2
20th June 2013, 12:36 PM
So if we log on using TOR and not signing in we should see something different right?

Agrippa
20th June 2013, 12:47 PM
So if we log on using TOR and not signing in we should see something different right?

Unless they were able to put some kind of cookie on your machine, with which to identify you even through TOR. A better test would be to use a read-only distro like Tails to connect to suspect sites.

gunDriller
20th June 2013, 01:24 PM
it's all man-made and it's limited only by the creativity & ethics or lack of ethics of the managers & techs involved.

many of those managers & techs are Jewish. all of them, working for the government, are Zio-compliant.

if they wanted to, they could set up a mirror for the G-S.us server on Obama's desk.


but - such antics will leave residues & tell-tale clues. a good sysAdmin will usually be able to tell if something wierd is going on.

i wonder if any games like that were involved in the GIM1 shutdown. did G-Khan find that games were being played with GIM1 by the US gov. or related organizations ?

JohnQPublic
20th June 2013, 01:27 PM
So if we log on using TOR and not signing in we should see something different right?

I don't know. Once you are on the other server (assuming it exists), you might not know under any circumstance. They would intercept your request for a page, send over to their copy forum, then produce the page. I am not sure you would know where it came from. I don't think TOR has any traceability capabilities beyond a normal situation. Maybe if ran a traceroute somehow, you might be able to figure it out.

Probably the easiest way to find out is if the other server ever went down, the forum would be outdated. I suspect what he is saying is not occurring.