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Hatha Sunahara
21st June 2013, 09:18 PM
Anyone remember that old axiom--'Knowledge is power.'? In East Germany, the Stasi's goal was to 'Know everything.' Well, it appears that the NSA knows enough about people in the government to control them. I found this story (linked below)to be an explanation of some missing pieces in my desire to understand who is really in charge of events. So, while everyone is worried about how the 'government' is spying on them, step back and think about how the NSA is spying on people in the government and how they control them.


http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/nsa-whistleblower-nsa-spying-on-and-blackmailing-high-level-government-officials-and-military-officers.html

Here's a video that summarizes the spying on government officials:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DmN80yi5mo&feature=player_embedded#at=17



Hatha

Hatha Sunahara
21st June 2013, 10:23 PM
Ryan Dawson picked up on this here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-yvt2AIVD8


Hatha

Hatha Sunahara
21st June 2013, 10:36 PM
Here's a link to the entire Russel Tice audio interview with Boiling Frogs--One hour and 22 minutes:

http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/podpress_trac/web/20927/0/BF.0112.Tice_20130617.mp3


Hatha

Twisted Titan
22nd June 2013, 02:15 AM
Do you really think you can dance with The Devil and leave with your soul unscathed???

Who is fooling who?

SWRichmond
22nd June 2013, 03:50 AM
Elliot Spitzer was the example. Go along, and you can do whatever you want, whatever indulgences you wish. Make waves and we will throw you away, using information about those very same indulgences.

gunDriller
22nd June 2013, 07:36 AM
if i ever go to work for the US gov., i expect them to spy on me.

Hatha Sunahara
22nd June 2013, 09:05 AM
The spying is primarily for purposes of blackmailing people into doing what the spies want. If you listen to the long mp3 interview of Russell Tice by Boiling Frogs, he says that Gen Keith Alexander--the head of the NSA is the most powerful man in the world--sort of like a J. Edgar Hoover, who kept dossiers of dirt on everybody--on steroids.

That audio interview--82 minutes long is worth a listen.


Hatha

Ponce
22nd June 2013, 09:23 AM
Like I posted two or three years ago......"Congres and others do as the Zionist want them do do because they are being blackmailed, all that we need is for one of them to have the guts to stand up and say so and more will follow".....well, I was right.

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Hatha Sunahara
22nd June 2013, 09:44 AM
If you don't want to download the Tice mp3, here's a link to boilingfrogspost.com where you can listen to it online:

http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/

It's under the headline:

Podcast Show #112: NSA Whistleblower Goes on Record -Reveals New Information & Names Culprits! - See more at: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/#sthash.2gtzwJY6.dpuf

Tice theorizes that Obama himself is being blackmailed, and that is what explains the inconsistencies in his rhetoric and his actions.

I would suspect that Gen. Keith Alexander, and Clapper, and a host of little known shadowy powerful people at NSA work directly for the people who have the monopoly on creating money. I also suspect that they are getting lots of help from the Israelis--if they are not completely controlled by the Israelis.

Hatha

Horn
22nd June 2013, 10:51 AM
Strange little article in ZDNet today: Senator warns banks of cyberattack risk, Chase Bank targeted within minutes.


It’s strange on several counts. Firstly, it seems that General Keith Alexander, head of the U.S. military’s Cyber Command, has been promoted (or demoted) to Senator – for it seems to be he who issued the warning.


Then he was gifted with prescient superpowers. He warns of further attacks on the banks.


As if in silent agreement, hackers — potentially with a morbid sense of humor — decided to attack Chase Bank’s website within minutes of the speech, and this was later confirmed by the bank to CNBC. It is unknown whether the cyberattack was connected, but either way, the timing was ironic.
The attack itself was, predictably, a denial-of-service (DoS) attack, although it is unclear whether any financial or account data has been compromised or stolen.
Senator warns banks of cyberattack risk, Chase Bank targeted within minutes (http://www.zdnet.com/senator-warns-banks-of-cyberattack-risk-chase-bank-targeted-within-minutes-7000012525/)

http://kevtownsend.wordpress.com/tag/ddos/

Hatha Sunahara
23rd June 2013, 10:59 AM
Here's a bit more on blackmail:

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Meet_The_Man_In_Charge_Of_America%27s_Secret_Cyber _Army_%28In_Which_%22Bonesaw%22_Makes_A_Mockery_Of _PRISM%29/26856/0/38/38/Y/M.html


Hatha

Libertytree
23rd June 2013, 12:42 PM
I think that's exactly what Snowden is doing to them, he has their balls in a vice.

gunDriller
23rd June 2013, 01:59 PM
I think that's exactly what Snowden is doing to them, he has their balls in a vice.

no sympathy for the NSA here.

they are the central nerve structure for Continuity of Government (CoG) operations.

CoG has nothing to do with democracy, except to simulate it.

Hatha Sunahara
27th June 2013, 12:42 AM
Here's a Corbett Report on the blackmail of government officials. He interviews Sibel Edmonds"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc3esnkqM7E


Hatha

Cebu_4_2
27th June 2013, 12:54 AM
You guys missed something, I made a new thread.

Hatha Sunahara
29th June 2013, 09:58 AM
Here's another recent post from Rappoport on the NSA blackmailing the government:

Is the NSA Blackmail Inc. for the military industrial complex?


Jun28 (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/06/28/is-the-nsa-blackmail-inc-for-the-military-industrial-complex/)by Jon Rappoport (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/author/jonrappoport/)
Is NSA Blackmail Inc. for the military industrial complex?
By Jon Rappoport
June 28, 2013
www.nomorefakenews.com (http://www.nomorefakenews.com/)

Every director of the NSA is a general or an admiral. The NSA is organized under the US Dept. of Defense. Imagine that you are a powerful player who straddles two worlds—the Dept. of Defense and the private sector where corporate defense-contractors live and flourish. You’ve served many times in both arenas. Your name is Mr. Military Industrial Complex. Your mission is war. The reasons for war don’t matter. Reasons can be invented at the drop of a hat. You want endless armed conflict.

That’s how you make your money. That’s how you express your impulses. That’s your single obsession. That’s how you forward Empire. You don’t have to justify what you do or consult your conscience. Those days, if they ever existed, are long past. You’re a war-monger and you’re proud of it. Your basic challenge, on behalf of the military industrial complex, is working the political machinery in Washington—the Congress, the president, the two major Parties—in order to make war happen. One day, you look around and you say, “I have a whole super-agency at my disposal. It’s organized under the Dept. of Defense. It-called the NSA. It spies on everybody all the time.” You realize you can use the NSA to collect endless amounts of information on Congress, the White House, the president, the press, and the Democratic and Republican leadership. Well, the NSA is already doing that.

So the question is: will you use that explosive information, that very private information gained through spying, to coerce these politicians to go to war when you want to go to war?
Is the Pope Catholic? Of course you’ll use it. You’d be a complete fool not to. In fact, in the long run, this may well be the most important function of NSA. Yes. Given your overriding mission in life, it is the most important function of NSA. It’s job number one. So you’re going to make sure the resources of the NSA are tuned up quite effectively to extract the information you need.
It’s called blackmail.
It’s called extortion.
It’s beautiful.
It’s the natural use of the NSA, within the overall structure of the military industrial complex.

There are always recalcitrant members of Congress and reluctant presidents who could use a push to go to war. These politicians, the overwhelming majority of them, are criminals. Let’s face it. They’re remarkably indifferent to human life. They cheat and lie and steal. They have private secrets. They commit acts that would, if exposed, embarrass them and destroy their pathetic careers. They’re wonderfully fertile targets for spying and blackmail. You have the spear. The leading point that can penetrate those secrets. The NSA.


The logic is perfect and complete. So you really have two enemies or targets. One, the foreign nation you intend to invade, and two, the politicians you need to convince to support that war. In light of your latter target, the politicians, these words of Sun Tzu (The Art of War) take on new meaning: “Attack [your enemy] where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.” For example, in a Senator’s hotel suite, with video capability, while he is in the arms of a hooker. “The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle.” For example, calculations focusing on politicians’ offshore bank accounts. In the era of kings and queens, the monarch’s court was rife with intrigue and extortion. We labor under the misapprehension that this has all been cleared up and swept away in the time of “open government.”


Nothing could be further from the truth. Only means and tools have changed. Relentless PR projected at the public makes a case for honest, honorable, and embattled politicians. Secondary layers of PR make the case that rabidly morbid partisanship infects political life. Both of these psyops are cover stories. The core truth is harsher. Politicians are, overwhelmingly, creatures who have decided whom to sell their souls to.

That’s who they are. People of this stripe always wander off course in their private lives. The NSA is there to record the wanderings and compile the secrets. NSA is the elephant in the infested room called Washington. It remembers everything. War is war, and preparing to go to war is also war. The military industrial complex needs the NSA to close the deal. Spying, blackmail. This is how politicians’ arms are twisted and war is guaranteed. Things aren’t left to chance. It isn’t, “Maybe some day we’ll go to war or maybe we won’t.” The military industrial complex sells death. It’s backed up by the largest spying agency in the world, who has red-hot files on politicians’ scandalous private behavior. From Russ Tice, former intelligence analyst with 20 years of experience at NSA, the US Air Force, the Office of Naval Intelligence, and the Defense Intelligence Agency, in a June 2013 interview with Boiling Frogs (http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/):

“They [NSA] went after [spied on] — and I know this because I had my hands literally on the paperwork for these sort of things — they went after high-ranking military officers; they went after members of Congress, both Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence committees and on the armed services committees and some of the — and judicial…

“They went after lawyers and law firms. All kinds of — heaps of lawyers and law firms. They went after judges. One of the judges is now sitting on the Supreme Court that I had his wiretap information in my hand. Two are former FISA court judges. They went after State Department officials. They went after people in the executive service that were part of the White House — their own people.


“Here’s the big one… this was in summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a 40-something-year-old wannabe senator for Illinois. You wouldn’t happen to know where that guy lives right now would you? It’s a big white house in Washington, D.C. That’s who they went after, and that’s the president of the United States now.”


Jon Rappoport


Hatha