Closing threads

[7th trump]

Gee palani......is it your practice to always close a thread when someone posts a different angle that just might make you look like something you don't want others to figure out?

Gosh...your actions are similar to a dictator.

[Ponce]

Don't worry trump......for the good of mankind I reopened the thread for him, OK OK OK who is going to chew me out now?

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[Serpo]

Thread closed

[midnight rambler]

Gotta love it when the pot calls the kettle black. lol

If a troll was persistently trolling threads I started I'd be inclined to close 'em as well.

[palani]

I feel awful bad about that but it seems to have abated a nuisance.

[Ponce]

"Abated a nuisance" uffffffffffff all those fancy words....... let me run to my dicctionary....you sound more like a poletician hahahahahahahahah........hey guys? where will we have some fun if you closed all the threads?.......why hell, Ponce would have to go back to Cuba..........................ok, ok, I'll pack my bags hahahahahahah.

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[ximmy]

I hate it when folk close threads, (not to impute you palani) the thread record could be updated as we learn more. I was on a forum once where the moderator would berate users for posting in a 2 month old thread. (Do not post in threads more than 60 days old, or I will ban your asp!)

[Ponce]

Ximmy? life never stays the same so that in two months a tread could have a new life.....they must be doing it so that they could have more numbers of threads.

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[7th trump]

palani after accusing me of "thread drift" closes another thread after proving him wrong once again.
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[palani]

palani after accusing me of "thread drift" closes another thread after proving him wrong once again..

Abating a nuisance.

Why are you NEVER wrong?

[7th trump]

Abating a nuisance.

Why are you NEVER wrong?

Its easy!
I don't look at everything as if its a conspiracy.
I read the statutes relating to the laws in question (you refuse to).
I stay unbiased.
I look for the detail.

For instance you were peddling a coroner and a medical examiner are totally different with one having power to form a jury and the other is not.
Today most coroners are obsolete and going the way of the dinosaur as they usually don't have, nor required, to have any medical or forensic background.....nothing!
Coroners are elected which can be just about anybody.........a drunk, a semi driver, a bee keeper, a carpenter, a failed businessmen.
Hence why they need 6 people to confirm a cause of death.
Medical examiners are usually doctors of pathology and forensics and don't need 6 people to decide the cause of death.
But that is not how you are portraying this whole thing.
You are portraying this as a conspiracy and coroners have some sort of unknown power to form jury's.
You're conspiracy minded..........infecting the truth.
You want a conspiracy so you build one up from half truths and rumors.

Don't you have a toilet to unclog as a property manager?

[gunDriller]

"Thread is the Meat in the Hamburger of Life" - :)

Sun Tzu channeling Ray Kroc, founder of McDonald's.

[palani]

Its easy!
I don't look at everything as if its a conspiracy.
I read the statutes relating to the laws in question (you refuse to).
I stay unbiased.
I look for the detail.
No. It is because you are a HEAD case.


For instance you were peddling a coroner and a medical examiner are totally different with one having power to form a jury and the other is not.
If they are the SAME then why aren't they CALLED THE SAME NAME?


Today most coroners are obsolete and going the way of the dinosaur as they usually don't have, nor required, to have any medical or forensic background.....nothing! Civil law countries don't have coroners. DO YOU WANT TO LIVE IN A CIVIL LAW COUNTRY? Isn't your grandfathers system of government good enough for YOU? Are you trying to improve his system? I guess you must think your grand daddy was pretty stupid, huh?



Coroners are elected which can be just about anybody.........a drunk, a semi driver, a bee keeper, a carpenter, a failed businessmen.
I guess your president can be just about anybody too?


Hence why they need 6 people to confirm a cause of death. Juries are triers of FACTS.



Medical examiners are usually doctors of pathology and forensics and don't need 6 people to decide the cause of death. So let them be expert witnesses. The cause of death is not the only FACT. There are many more FACTS to be determined.



But that is not how you are portraying this whole thing.
You are portraying this as a conspiracy and coroners have some sort of unknown power to form jury's. I haven't stated anything at all about conspiracy. That is your narrow mindset. I have stated that the coroner is the check on the sheriff. With the system the way it is now the sheriff has no check. If there is a conspiracy it is to gain your consent to this farcical system.

You're conspiracy minded..........infecting the truth.
You want a conspiracy so you build one up from half truths and rumors.
You are a FOOL. I don't mean that in a mean spirited way. You simply ARE!!!

[7th trump]

No. It is because you are a HEAD case.


If they are the SAME then why aren't they CALLED THE SAME NAME?

Civil law countries don't have coroners. DO YOU WANT TO LIVE IN A CIVIL LAW COUNTRY? Isn't your grandfathers system of government good enough for YOU? Are you trying to improve his system? I guess you must think your grand daddy was pretty stupid, huh?



I guess your president can be just about anybody too?

Juries are triers of FACTS.


So let them be expert witnesses. The cause of death is not the only FACT. There are many more FACTS to be determined.


I haven't stated anything at all about conspiracy. That is your narrow mindset. I have stated that the coroner is the check on the sheriff. With the system the way it is now the sheriff has no check. If there is a conspiracy it is to gain your consent to this farcical system.

You are a FOOL. I don't mean that in a mean spirited way. You simply ARE!!!

My God you're an idiot.
Coroners aren't medical examiners you twit....google it if you don't believe me.

Civil law has nothing at all to do with coroners and medical examiners.........you're inject that bullshit to build a conspiracy.
As far as the olden days my grandpa lived in didn't have the technology we have today.
Do you think joe-six-pack who's elected as a coroner back in those days could determine ricin poisoning from "natural causes"?
I highly doubt it!

No shit jury's are triers of facts. But without trained medical examiners a coroner needs 6 others to determine the cause of death the best they can...so help you God!

An expert medical examiner will find the cause of death....no other fact is needed. Why you inject other facts is beyond reasoning

You don't need to say the word conspiracy to see what you are up to.
Your method of operation is conspiracy hands down!

A coroner is not a check on the sheriff.....that's you building on an unfounded theory that coroners form jury's.
You seen the word "jury" and.........wham bam thank you mam...........you thought you uncovered a conspiracy!....and ran with it without actually researching a damn thing.
Coroners once again do not require any medical back ground, who can be anybody, and are elected to that position to find the cause of death and need 6 people who state an oath that they, the 6 of them, have figured out the cause to the best of their nonmedical ability.

Go get drunk you fool

[palani]

Coroners aren't medical examiners
You see. I knew we could agree on one point. Medical examiners ARE NOT coroners either. See ... it works both ways.

[7th trump]

You see. I knew we could agree on one point. Medical examiners ARE NOT coroners either. See ... it works both ways.

Yep you are correct....trained medical examiners can be coroners but untrained mundane coroners are not medical examiners. That's why coroners are no longer needed and being replaced by professionals with the proper medical education called "medical examiners".

[palani]

That's why coroners are no longer needed and being replaced by professionals .

And your point being that an office of the common law is no longer needed because, you see, we communists have no need of an elected coroner?

Again we agree. As long as you don't mind acting like a communist then I don't mind you being a communist.

See how much fun we can have when we agree? All you have to do is lose all your principles and roll around in the mud that your society created and you may enjoy your pathetic little life to its fullest.

[palani]

From Massachusetts law 'The civil officer or the whole duty of sheriffs ... '
http://books.google.com/books?id=L6BfEoncAacC&pg=PA109&dq=duty+of+coroner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=PHzqUfC0HI_Q9gSruIDgCw&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=duty%20of%20coroner&f=false
http://i39.tinypic.com/2vaxlk2.jpg

Now tell me. In what world do you suppose a medical examiner might "serve all writs and precepts when the sheriff or either of his deputies shall be a party to the same"?????

[palani]

More from the same Massachusetts 1809 book

http://i39.tinypic.com/wiq2l3.jpg

1. The 1784 act of Massachusetts listed fines in POUNDS and SCHILLINGS? Note they are still using English denominations of money. The dollar hadn't been invented yet.

2. The coroner is required to swear in the jury. Can a medical examiner swear in a jury? Can a medical examiner elicit an oath from anyone?

3. The coroner actually tells the sheriff to summon the jury. Can the medical examiner pull these same strings or is he told what to do by the sheriff?

[palani]

Here is law for the coroner as it stood in 1791 in New Hampshire. From 'the complete justice of the peace' found here http://books.google.com/books?id=nJYZAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA231&dq=duty+of+coroner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9JbqUbLQG4Hm8QSd5oCgDw&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA

http://i41.tinypic.com/oswyfa.jpg

Again .... can the medical examiner execute all writs and process where the sheriff is named as a party?

How you going to get remedy on the sheriff by going through a medical examiner?

[palani]

From 'ON THE LAW OF THE CORONER' here are more duties of the office of coroner defined

http://i43.tinypic.com/xkuf5j.jpg

Is the medical examiner going to look into treasure? Or shipwrecks? Or affairs involving whales and sturgeons?

[palani]

Here is what the territory of Wisconsin had to say about the duty of coroners ... taken from http://books.google.com/books?id=nplhAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA91&dq=duty+of+coroner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9JbqUbLQG4Hm8QSd5oCgDw&ved=0CEAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=duty%20of%20coroner&f=false


http://i39.tinypic.com/ehk8qb.jpg

Are the duties of a mere medical examiner commensurate with these duties?

[palani]

From 'The Kings Coroner' found here http://books.google.com/books?id=Dl_P_hoNhYIC&pg=PA97&dq=duty+of+coroner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9JbqUbLQG4Hm8QSd5oCgDw&ved=0CFYQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=duty%20of%20coroner&f=false


http://i41.tinypic.com/1zdus0x.jpg

Granted this is English law .. but the office of coroner does derive from English law to begin with ... but take a look ... is there a requirement that the medical examiner required to have land in fee simple in the county where he may answer to all manner of people? Or is all that is needed be a piece of paper saying he graduated from a medical school and knew how to slice open a body?

[palani]

Here is a pretty good tidbit I found .. should you choose to dwell a little upon it.

http://i40.tinypic.com/10gfq4h.jpg

From THE KINGS CORONER found here http://books.google.com/books?id=Dl_P_hoNhYIC&pg=PA97&dq=duty+of+coroner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9JbqUbLQG4Hm8QSd5oCgDw&ved=0CFYQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=duty%20of%20coroner&f=false

What is interesting is the application of this instruction in any arrangement where you are dealing with an agent. A deputy MUST sign in the name of his principal or else the act is void. He should also have a seal (locus sigilli is the location of the seal).

This of course has applications in any area where you are not dealing with a principal.

[palani]

Hmmmm ... Footnote from 'A Digest of the Laws of Virginia' found here http://books.google.com/books?id=b4U0AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA112&dq=duty+of+coroner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qbnqUb7pN5Oc9QS654DYCQ&ved=0CDkQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=duty%20of%20coroner&f=false

http://i41.tinypic.com/28sogm9.jpg

What's this they say? A coroner's duty is JUDICIAL? So how is a MEDICAL EXAMINER trained in the judicial arts? Maybe they AREN'T THE SAME OFFICE AT ALL? If so ... then WHY is the office of CORONER left vacant?

[7th trump]

From 'The Kings Coroner' found here http://books.google.com/books?id=Dl_P_hoNhYIC&pg=PA97&dq=duty+of+coroner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9JbqUbLQG4Hm8QSd5oCgDw&ved=0CFYQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=duty%20of%20coroner&f=false


http://i41.tinypic.com/1zdus0x.jpg

Granted this is English law .. but the office of coroner does derive from English law to begin with ... but take a look ... is there a requirement that the medical examiner required to have land in fee simple in the county where he may answer to all manner of people? Or is all that is needed be a piece of paper saying he graduated from a medical school and knew how to slice open a body?

two things!
1. This doesn't apply here in America....this is foreign law and doesn't apply.

2. This specific to coroners....not medical examiners.

[7th trump]

Here is what the territory of Wisconsin had to say about the duty of coroners ... taken from http://books.google.com/books?id=nplhAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA91&dq=duty+of+coroner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9JbqUbLQG4Hm8QSd5oCgDw&ved=0CEAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=duty%20of%20coroner&f=false


http://i39.tinypic.com/ehk8qb.jpg

Are the duties of a mere medical examiner commensurate with these duties?

This one doesn't help you palani.

[7th trump]

Hmmmm ... Footnote from 'A Digest of the Laws of Virginia' found here http://books.google.com/books?id=b4U0AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA112&dq=duty+of+coroner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qbnqUb7pN5Oc9QS654DYCQ&ved=0CDkQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=duty%20of%20coroner&f=false

http://i41.tinypic.com/28sogm9.jpg

What's this they say? A coroner's duty is JUDICIAL? So how is a MEDICAL EXAMINER trained in the judicial arts? Maybe they AREN'T THE SAME OFFICE AT ALL? If so ... then WHY is the office of CORONER left vacant?

This also is foreign law.

How stupid are you to think you can apply foreign law?
Why don't you go find something that relates to the USofA?
Ohhh wait a minute....it probably doesn't exist.

And why do you research foreign laws and not domestic US laws?
You're fucking weird palani.....WEIRD!

[7th trump]

Here you go dumbass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coroner

[palani]

two things!
1. This doesn't apply here in America....this is foreign law and doesn't apply. English law continued after the revolution as COMMON LAW.


2. This specific to coroners....not medical examiners. You are being dense today. Of course the English had doctors but no medical examiners. Think about that for a bit.

[palani]

This one doesn't help you palani. The coroners duties are JUDICIAL. That is what the Wisconsin statute says as well. He HAS no medical duties. You have had the wool pulled over your eyes so long you can't tell what is true and what is false.

[palani]

This also is foreign law.
Would you believe
1. Virginia once held all the land up to Lake Superior but not across the Mississippi River.
2. Virginia ceded the territories north and west of the Ohio to the U.S. of A.
3. The U.S. of A. at one time put the Territory of Wisconsin in charge of the lands west of the Mississippi River and north of Missouri.
4. The Territory of Wisconsin passed a statute applying all the laws of one of their counties to the lands west of the Mississippi.
5. The laws of Virginia that had ONCE existed now applied to west of the Mississippi.

So you see it is NOT foreign law. It is YOUR law.

[palani]

Here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coroner

You know I don't believe I have ever met anyone as dense as you. Thank you for making my case stronger


An interesting point of NC law is that common law provides for the coroner to arrest the sheriff if and when such need arises.

As I stated many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many times ... the coroner is the check on the power of the sheriff.

[steel_ag]

interesting tidbits of coroner history, thank you.

corona coronation

http://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2013/01/how_to_make_a_cocktail_the_pacifier/

[palani]

interesting tidbits of coroner history, thank you.

Thanks ... but the point is in most jurisdictions the office is vacant. In a republic offices that are vacant may be filled by anyone. Just post a legal notice and let the sheriff know that you are now his boss and may accept legal process upon him.

I doubt if the medical examiner would do this.

[Note to self ... try this when you have nothing left to lose]

[7th trump]

Thanks ... but the point is in most jurisdictions the office is vacant. In a republic offices that are vacant may be filled by anyone. Just post a legal notice and let the sheriff know that you are now his boss and may accept legal process upon him.

I doubt if the medical examiner would do this.

[Note to self ... try this when you have nothing left to lose]

Try that and see what the sheriff thinks.
Here in the united state coroners can only summons 6 people through the judicial for verification of death because back in the early days nobody had any pathology background. Why wouldn't summoning 6 people fall under judicial?

Like a jury of 12 to decide guilty or not guilty in legality cases a coroner uses the same process of using a jury but with 6 people who swear under an oath.

No I think your being dense palani.
English law huh?
We have French law as well.
Even Spanish law.
Hey heres a thought palani .....why didn't you bring up Roman law form?
Sure we have sheriff and coroners emanating from a "kings" law, but the government itself is set up "roman" law form. We have senators' and governors' emanating from roman.
Then by your own reasoning Rome rules all of the united states through english coroners.

Coroners here in the united states do not check the sheriff.
Anybody can arrest any police officer including a sheriff when found breaking the law.

[palani]

Anybody can arrest any police officer including a sheriff when found breaking the law.

Have you had much luck with this?

A U.S. citizen is a slave .... not a master. Thought you would have picked this little tidbit off by all the police shootings of people who have done no wrong.

[7th trump]

Yeah...ok!
Coroners are also "US citizen" slaves dipshit.
Try your psychoses on someone else dickhead. As much as you try you cant have it both ways.

[palani]

Coroners are also "US citizen" slaves



A 'coroner' holds an office. AKA a title of nobility. Think of that as a slave who would be king.

[palani]

As much as you try you cant have it both ways.

Here ... maybe this will give you some perspective.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bU6m5UqLx9M
Did you bother to wonder WHY the 'boss' made it so hard to fire Kramer?

[7th trump]

A 'coroner' holds an office. AKA a title of nobility. Think of that as a slave who would be king.

Ohhhh!
Are you admitting once again you don't read law and make up fallacy to build your numerous conspiracy's?


Article I, Section 9, Clause 8:


No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.


Proposal and rationale

The United States Senate approved the measure by a vote of 19–5 on April 26, 1810.[5] It was then adopted by the United States House of Representatives with a vote of 87–3 on May 1, 1810.[6] After the Congress passed it, the amendment was submitted to the state legislatures for ratification.

The proposed amendment was intended to expand upon Article I, Section 9 and Section 10 of the Constitution, which prohibits the states and the federal government from issuing titles of nobility or honor.

Like I said earlier the law you are using in support of your personal premise is foreign law and does not have any legal binding.
The coroner of a king of a foreign government and the coroner of the united states are the same in NAME only. They are completely different otherwise

[7th trump]

Just one of hundreds of websites.
http://www.amadorsheriff.org/operations_division/coroners_bureau


Coroners Bureau

The Sheriff of Amador County also has the responsibilities of being the Coroner. As such all Deputy Sheriffs are also designated as Deputy Coroners. The Coroner duties are managed by the Chief Deputy Coroner. The Chief Deputy Coroner is a Sergeant assigned to the Investigations Division at the Sheriff's Office. The Coroner's Office investigates deaths falling under the guidelines of the California State Government Code §27491.


What does the Coroner's Office do?
The Amador County Coroner's Office is the agency responsible for investigating reportable deaths in Amador County. The office performs medico-legal investigations for legal and public health purposes under the authority of state law. By far, the largest percentages of deaths in the county are natural deaths. Just because the Coroner investigates a death does not mean there is a belief that a crime has been committed. It is the Coroner's legal responsibility identify the deceased, to notify the next-of-kin or legal representative, and to protect the estate of the deceased until it can be turned over to the legal heirs

[General of Darkness]

7th trump you are one whinny little bitch. Would a mod move this to board communications because this has no business being in GD. Palini is good people and he closes threads if it makes sense plain and simple.

[Cebu_4_2]

7th trump you are one whinny little bitch. Would a mod move this to board communications because this has no business being in GD. Palini is good people and he closes threads if it makes sense plain and simple.

Id rather him stay in here then to fuck up everyones threads.

[7th trump]

7th trump you are one whinny little bitch. Would a mod move this to board communications because this has no business being in GD. Palini is good people and he closes threads if it makes sense plain and simple.
palani is not what you think he is.
Palani is conspiratist leading your ass down a prim rose path. But that seems what you like best anyway is to be lead down rabbit holes.
Besides if you don't like my thread don't bring your dickhead in here.


Or maybe shut your cock holster and realize palani is lying about coroners being the sheriffs check when coroners are part of the sheriff's department.
Or maybe wake the fuck up yourself about palani's bullshit dickhead!

[7th trump]

Id rather him stay in here then to fuck up everyones threads.
So whats your opinion of coroners?
Or do you care?

[Cebu_4_2]

So whats your opinion of coroners?
Or do you care?

All I remember is the Coroner can arrest the sheriff.

And wasn't referring to you fucking up threads.

[7th trump]

All I remember is the Coroner can arrest the sheriff.

And wasn't referring to you fucking up threads.

Anybody can arrest the sheriff....so what is palani's point?
By the way this is my thread!

[Cebu_4_2]

Anybody can arrest the sheriff....so what is palani's point?
By the way this is my thread!

Does he ever have a point?

[palani]

the law you are using in support of your personal premise is foreign law and does not have any legal binding.

My law is reason. Yours appears to be paperbound.

[palani]

Just one of hundreds of websites.

YOUR law is websites? Sunk to a new low?

[palani]

7th trump you are one whinny little bitch. Would a mod move this to board communications because this has no business being in GD. Palini is good people and he closes threads if it makes sense plain and simple.
GoD ... I am trying to be such a nuisance on this thread that HE voluntarily closes it himself!!!!

[palani]

Id rather him stay in here then to fuck up everyones threads.

I hope you don't count yourself as 'everyone'. You hardly matter.

[palani]

By the way this is my thread!
And you may close it anytime you like too.

[7th trump]

YOUR law is websites? Sunk to a new low?

Never said a website was law or my law. But everyone here knows how you twist things around.

[7th trump]

GoD ... I am trying to be such a nuisance on this thread that HE voluntarily closes it himself!!!!

I'm not like you palani. You close down threads when you're proven wrong.

[7th trump]

And you may close it anytime you like too.

Of course you'd like me to close it.......its detrimental to you. You don't like being exposed to light.

[7th trump]

Does he ever have a point?

Very true!

[palani]

But everyone here knows how you twist things around.

You speak for everyone? Is that an office you have voluntarily stepped into? Where is your authority? How can you simply declare you speak for everyone without their electing you to that office?

[palani]

You close down threads when you're proven wrong.
I close them down when they are in danger of being taken over by morons.

[palani]

Of course you'd like me to close it
Makes no difference to me .. except it would show that you are a hypocrite. Isn't that enough?

[palani]

Very true!

Cebu don't speak any sort of truth. He is a sock puppet. Has no original thoughts and can't stand anyone else having them either.

[7th trump]

I close them down when they are in danger of being taken over by morons.

Naw that's not true ....you close them down palani when your premises are in danger.

[7th trump]

Cebu don't speak any sort of truth. He is a sock puppet. Has no original thoughts and can't stand anyone else having them either.

As if you speak truths yourself.
You don't answer questions remember.
All you do is answer with a question leaving the one questioning you doubting themselves.

[7th trump]

You speak for everyone? Is that an office you have voluntarily stepped into? Where is your authority? How can you simply declare you speak for everyone without their electing you to that office?

Stop the games palani.
Its what gets people pissed off at you.

Isn't there a toilet for you to unclog as a property manager?

[palani]

you close them down palani when your premises are in danger.
Your rambling babbles present no immediate danger to me or my premises.

[palani]

leaving the one questioning you doubting themselves.
If you aren't sure then you are in doubt. Isn't this a true statement?

[palani]

Its what gets people pissed off at you.

There you go speaking for everyone again. Would you produce your authority to do so?