Thoth

[Serpo]

War On Consciousness Graham Hancock The TED TALK that was CENSORED -Who Was Thoth? Why You Need To Know





http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2013/07/war-on-consciousness-graham-hancock-the-ted-talk-that-was-censored-2453900.html



Emerald Tablets Of Thoth, 50,000 Year Old Tablets Reportedly From Atlantis



http://beforeitsnews.com/watercooler-topics/2013/07/emerald-tablets-of-thoth-50000-year-old-tablets-reportedly-from-atlantis-2433444.html



ps lot of stuff here i know little about

[aeondaze]

Where in relation to the TED talks does it mention this stuff Serpo,

I went to the link and read some, but couldn't find that conept fleshed out in the article?

OT I've read some of Hancocks stuff (mostly stuff on the teplars and the cathars)

Am I missing sumth'n ??:confused:??

[singular_me]

I have watched this one with Hancock, awesome

ps: they are concealing the true histtory of the sumerians, egyptians because they would have to admits that Atlantis did exist. And that The Great Flood was man-made.

bump

[Glass]

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/thot/esp_thot_1i.htm

This one caught my eye. It brings together Icke and Manly P Hall writings. Very "en" lightening. Very strong in masonry. Either he, the translator is letting his own beliefs drive his interpretation, a great deal or this is basically freemasonry he is describing.

[aeondaze]

ps: they are concealing the true histtory of the sumerians, egyptians because they would have to admits that Atlantis did exist. And that The Great Flood was man-made.

..and I get all this from the article too FWIW. But the MAIN premise is that this was censored from the TED talks. Nowhere can I find where they build a logical proposition for this happening. It just seems to have no evidence at all.

That the overall tone is whacky is a given, but they don't even attempt to provide a plausible argument or any evidence that the information is being sensored. The outlandish nature of Hancocks material is bad enough, but to then make wild assertions that this information has been censored with no facts to back it up is beyond sloppy and bordering on incompetenty IMO.

Though I really liked Hancocks musings on the cathars and templars. It had some solid historic and anthropologic merit - minus the Dan Brownish bent to paint merovich as some sort of lost Line of Jesus Christ and Mary magdelin, OMG how contrived.

The Cathars were the Christians time forgot, exterminated by the Catholic church and erased from the pages of history, but the only conspiracy that happened there was to destroy the decentralised incarnation of Christianity, you know sometimes it just is a pig and all, and this stuff fits in here very well.

I have been reading shite like this since I was 8 and I couldn't get enough, intime though I was overcome with a deep certainty that what I was reading was utter BS, and for the life of me I've never been abke to shake it, lol. Ironically my interest for the past is more intense than ever, the intrigues and motives of men are far more interesting than entertaining aliens and the spiritworld.

50,000 yo emerald tablets? This I have to see, but alas they don't exist...do they?:(

[singular_me]

what you have quoted from me is NOT in Hancock's TED censored video...

The war on Consciousness is as real as the Religious wars . Consciousness does not always mean spiritual.

But to me, if you call somebody whacky, you are already losing the battle because Reality is beyond fiction just about everything, and The Bible included.

Sure I cannot be certain that these tablets are indeed 50,000 year old.... but That Atlantis and Lemuria existed is well documented. The PTB do not want the school system to teach that, for an obvious reason: Which who control(s) the past, control(s)l the future

By the way do you really think that the full/exact translation of the Dead Sea Scrolls is available to the public? Really??

I do not

what is amazing with the Christians on here is that while they easily believe in conspiracies, they become deaf it comes down the the Bible aink that is the absolute truth. This reminds me that I asked Book to explain the how does it comes that there are 33 degrees in masonery and that Christ dies at age 33...

Denial, is what is killing the planet... and Mankind.


..and I get all this from the article too FWIW. But the MAIN premise is that this was censored from the TED talks. Nowhere can I find where they build a logical proposition for this happening. It just seems to have no evidence at all.

That the overall tone is whacky is a given, but they don't even attempt to provide a plausible argument or any evidence thaoave qut the information is being sensored. The outlandish nature of Hancocks material is bad enough, but to then make wild assertions that this information has been censored with no facts to back it up is beyond sloppy and bordering on incompetenty IMO.

Though I really liked Hancocks musings on the cathars and templars. It had some solid historic and anthropologic merit - minus the Dan Brownish bent to paint merovich as some sort of lost Line of Jesus Christ and Mary magdelin, OMG how contrived.

The Cathars were the Christians time forgot, exterminated by the Catholic church and erased from the pages of history, but the only conspiracy that happened there was to destroy the decentralised incarnation of Christianity, you know sometimes it just is a pig and all, and this stuff fits in here very well.

I have been reading shite like this since I was 8 and I couldn't get enough, intime though I was overcome with a deep certainty that what I was reading was utter BS, and for the life of me I've never been abke to shake it, lol. Ironically my interest for the past is more intense than ever, the intrigues and motives of men are far more interesting than entertaining aliens and the spiritworld.

50,000 yo emerald tablets? This I have to see, but alas they don't exist...do they?:(

[Serpo]

Where in relation to the TED talks does it mention this stuff Serpo,

I went to the link and read some, but couldn't find that conept fleshed out in the article?

OT I've read some of Hancocks stuff (mostly stuff on the teplars and the cathars)

Am I missing sumth'n ??:confused:??

ps lot of stuff here i know little about

[Libertytree]

Just a small meander into those tablets brings one to the conclusion that it's total fucking BULLSHIT.

[singular_me]

Just a small meander into those tablets brings one to the conclusion that it's total fucking BULLSHIT.
unfortunately truth can only be found when one has gone through ALL the bullshit in everything.... and starts assembling the puzzle...


even Newton knew about it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Tablet

interesting thread

These spiritual, occult and historical ‘Emerald Tablets’ are almost beyond comprehension of modern man. These Emerald Tablets, which were supposedly written about 36,000 B.C. by Hermes Trismegistus an incarnation of Atlantean priest-king named Toth, date far back beyond reach of any other historical writings ever found.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1582604/pg1

The apostle Paul alluded to the stories in Genesis as being allegories. (Galatians 4:24).

PS: if we ever wish see through the fog, we have to keep an open mind at all time. From what I Have gathered so far is that Man's history has had previous advanced civilization before ancient Egypt and Sumeria... I mean prior 6000BC.

[Libertytree]

unfortunately truth can only be found when one has gone through ALL the bullshit in everything.... and starts assembling the puzzle...


even Newton knew about it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Tablet

interesting thread
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GLP...LMFAO!

Just do a lil research, please.

[singular_me]

that's what I have been doing over the last 3 years... and I keep shaking my head in disbelief when looking down into the bottomless pit of the rabbit hole. Every day I wake up and have to admit how little I know. But the little keeps me going....

[Libertytree]

The tablet dude was a scammer, photographs...really...where? How? I'm not pickin'on ya but this shit is...BS. It'd be cool if it was even remotely legit and I myself like this kind of stuff but reason takes a front seat at some point.

[Glass]

Just a small meander into those tablets brings one to the conclusion that it's total fucking BULLSHIT.

The background story of the origins of the tablets are probably BS, however the content of the "translation" are most definately not. The translation describes occult concepts, actions and spell casting (for want of a better description), actually here's a better one, demon invocations. There are some very specific instructions that fit into a couple of occult concepts.

The first one is wishing. This is a common enticement for the occult. All you need to do is use positive re-inforcement, think of the things you want and the universe will deliver them to you. I have pointed this out before. This is occult stuff. This is the Pretext of "The Secret" and there maybe an undisclosed price for having you wishes fulfilled. If you haven't freed a genie from his imprisonment a.k.a. a lamp, then you probably haven't paid the price for your wishes yet.

Talk to anyone of those celebrities (demi-god wannabe's) who wished for fame about how that is working out for them.

So the translation walks you through the process of wishing.

The other process it walks you through is spell casting and it lays out the steps you need to invoke a demon either to appear before you or to inhabit you or channel through you.

The continual mentioning, like a chorus in a song, about the light and being enlightened. Classic masonry. The translator was admittedly a researcher of freemasonry, the kabbalah and other occult material so his bias is already there.

That brings me to an issue with the construct of the language. To me the writting appears to be mostly poetic in structure, there are verses and then these repetitive choruses about the light and travelling the valley of death etc. It seems too convinient that the english translation would work out so well as a chant type of writting. Especially considering the original language is supposed to be 6000+ years old.

Talk about the Light brotherhood and the dark brothers sounds like classic star wars or even the tales told by these "special" people who tell you the yakuza or chinese mafia are working with so and so to free trillions of gold for the world. Good is fighting Bad and so on.

In short, I think there is knowledge in the translation and truth as well but I seriously doubt it's honesty. Would anyone simply stumble across this stuff and decide, hey, I'm gonna try this stuff this guy wrote, without ever considering the consequences and simply trusting this stuff is from someone on the side of the good guys or a bad guy looking to capture a few more souls in to the after life?

That brings me to the last thing that struck me. In it there is mention of the demon world that walks above and below and how these entities are amongst us, we are not receptive to seeing them but we are affected by them. This one I'm 100% in agreement with. I know this is the case from my own life experiences, the whole of it, since I remember, has been full of this stuff. From being approached as a child by an "imaginary friend" and being made "an offer", through to current times. Many many experiences and observations on this.

So I think there are facts in there about the occult but I doubt the motives of the translator, if indeed he was translating or simply writting his own beliefs. I think the second option is the most likely.

[aeondaze]

The only power that another has over anyone else is convincing them that they have supernatural powers or power at all. This is where it resides, not in supernatural forces and magical abilities.

That people believed in these forces thousands of years ago is a given.

In relation to Thoth, he was not like all the other gods in many many ways. His role wasn't to triumph good over evil or even the other way around, he simply kept the forces of good and bad in balance so that neither overcame the other. In many ways he is the Egyptian manifestation of the Tao. But of course he had a much larger role via the deterministic views of Egyptians through the element of chance. He was the god of gambling and luck. You prayed to Thoth when you sought a favourable outcome. He was not so much a god, or even their meseenger, he was the scribe of the gods and assigned with the invention of writing and maths, so it is easy to see his influence over divination and astrological observation.

A magician in those days predicted solar eclipses and star movements, this was sufficient in convincing people they had magical abbilities and they did this through the use of mathematics, all these things were attributed to Thoth.

If you think that dark forces exist then I can only attribute that to a highly active imagination, one that blinds you from seeing the reality of how these gods operated in Egyptian times. Whilst in his day Thoth was seen to be a powerful god in reality his power was derived from logic and observation, and the cold cruelty of chance, things which these days are the antithesis of belief in parnormal forces.

[Glass]

If you think that dark forces exist then I can only attribute that to a highly active imagination, one that blinds you from seeing the reality of how these gods operated in Egyptian times. Whilst in his day Thoth was seen to be a powerful god in reality his power was derived from logic and
observation, and the cold cruelty of chance, things which these days are the antithesis of belief in parnormal forces.

I would attribute it to real life experiences, some of which are shared with other people. There are demons, esoteric beings, I've spoken with them, I've been attacked by them and I know several people possessed by them. I don't doubt their existence.

And yes, forecasting an eclipse is magical for people more primitive than me, just as I am sure there are events, many events and conditions etc that would give rise to things I could believe were magical, simply because of where I am at with knowledge. My comprehension of these things may change in the future but I am not in any doubt as to my multitude of experiences in my life time has involved other entities that are unseen in any clear way.

My comments should be read as a warning, just as if anyone was going to go messing around with a uoija board thinking it's a bit of 'armless fun. It isn't, becareful. People might be tempted to try out the invocations described by the translator accepting the whole of the tale, including the demi gods purpose in producing the material, at face value. My point being that it would be dangerous to do so, however I am sure there are people past and people future who would do so and the cost could be very high.

[singular_me]

The background story of the origins of the tablets are probably BS, however the content of the "translation" are most definately not. The translation describes occult concepts, actions and spell casting (for want of a better description), actually here's a better one, demon invocations. There are some very specific instructions that fit into a couple of occult concepts.

Glass, indeed it doesn't matter if the tablets are that old/real or not (and I will not spend my time trying to know), as they do convey ancient knowledge that has been around since ever. Based on what I know (and I don't know it all) they definitely seem to confirm much of the Hermetic and Gnostic esoteric values. .

ps: I do not practice the occult but was fortunate to grasp the "power of intentions" very quickly while going through some interesting readings. Isnt the Bible warning of a Judgment Day, well I do firmly believe that when one is raised with fear that it will happen, it DOES happen. So people can laugh all the way, ridiculing the "magic of thoughts" , they will get what they (unconsciously) wish for. It does apply too to racism and other negative projections... that's why my thinking has made a drastic a U-turn over the last 3 years. Most people are completely clueless about their psychic powers. And when confronted with the "obvious" they claim that it is an evil new-age concept... there is NO new age but "Lost Knowledge" that all religions and myths have translated in their own words.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God.

back to frequencies.... our words put everything into motion. It is a God-like trait. A God-given (paranormal) gift. That's how the PTB can get away with what they do to us... To change Reality, just change your mind patterns and speech and the elites will go away... as simple as that. The problem is that nobody else can do it for us, it is a individual decision.

[aeondaze]

The concept of the 'occult' we know today has very different origins 2000 years ago. The latin prefix 'oc' means eye, as in ocular, roughly translating to 'cult of the unseen'. This kind of vernacular was common usage in reference to a lot of the scretive mystery cults through the late bronze age classical greek to the rituals of the Elysian and Orphic mystery schools, these people were pagans and the mystery schools existed outside and yet alongside the traditional and regular veneration of greek gods. It was less about baphomet or supertstitious intrigues and more about an awakening through gnosis via ritualistic consumption of mind altering substances like the kykeon or its soma eqivalent in vedic tradition. The concept we assign to the occult today is a contrived modern invention used to keep good christians in line during the European dark ages.

Its all just rituals anyway, and as an atheist I don't credit one with more magical powers than any others. Its just silly really, though the subject matter is interesting from an anthropologcal perspective.

[singular_me]

The concept of the 'occult' we know today has very different origins 2000 years ago. The latin prefix 'oc' means eye, as in ocular, roughly translating to 'cult of the unseen'. This kind of vernacular was common usage in reference to a lot of the scretive mystery cults through the late bronze age classical greek to the rituals of the Elysian and Orphic mystery schools, these people were pagans and the mystery schools existed outside and yet alongside the traditional and regular veneration of greek gods. It was less about baphomet or supertstitious intrigues and more about an awakening through gnosis via ritualistic consumption of mind altering substances like the kykeon or its soma eqivalent in vedic tradition. The concept we assign to the occult today is a contrived modern invention used to keep good christians in line during the European dark ages.

thanks for saying this.

[singular_me]

Its all just rituals anyway, and as an atheist I don't credit one with more magical powers than any others. Its just silly really, though the subject matter is interesting from an anthropologcal perspective.

yes rituals are everywhere... it is not for the people in the know but keeping masses hypnotized by the eXoteric aspect of what is going on.

[gunDriller]

is this how gay people pronounce "Sauce" ?

thought it might be a cooking recipe or something.

[Santa]

OMG! Thith ith thuch a Thothy thread. :)

[Glass]

yeah look, rituals are spell casting ok? The body movements, chants, noises, circles drawn on ground, objects and instruments. Its all used in combination to cast as spell or make an invocation. Catholics use these all the time. You've seen "imaginery" movie wizards and witches. They wave their arms and call out spells. Same thing. It really doesn't come downto what you think is real or not. these people do believe it is real and they base their actions on whether they believe it is for the good of their god or not. If their god is satan and they act accordingly then that is when it becomes our problem. Because there actions will be a result of these beliefs. Killing, raping, stealing and so on.

So try and remember that the other person will act on their beliefs not yours.

Reiterating my point about the history of the tablets. As I said I doubt their history would stack up either but the material on them is very dangerous and is valid in terms of the conjuring side of it. It is clearly targeted at kabbalists and freemasons and also any idiot who thinks they are new age and are not being a witch at the same time. Maybe it is all benign in the universe, Light balanced with Darkness and you can choose you side. For the most part I've only seen darkness from those types of rituals. darkness doesn't only come from the rituals but I've only seen darkness from the rituals. Light on the other hand.....

[aeondaze]

Don't attribute to the supernatural that which can be attributed to the actions of man.

[gunDriller]

OMG! Thith ith thuch a Thothy thread. :)

Thilver Rocketth !

http://www.empowernetwork.com/chasexdreams/files/2013/02/rocket.jpeg


maybe "Thoth" meanth "Th-O-Th" ... and they're thecretly athking for help.