State moves to charge Zimmerman with 3d Degree Murder based on Aggravated Child Abuse

[Cebu_4_2]

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Posted by William A. Jacobson (http://legalinsurrection.com/author/bill/) Thursday, July 11, 2013 at 10:37am



As expected, the Judge in the George Zimmerman case ruled that in addition to Second Degree Murder, she will instruct the jury on the lesser included offense of Manslaughter, as required by Florida case law.


In a surprise move this morning, the prosecution asked the Judge to drop the Aggravated Assault charge and to instruct the jury on Third Degree Murder (http://lawofselfdefense.com/statute/fl-782-04-murder/), which is murder in the course of committing a felony.


The felony the State wanted as the predicate was Aggravated Child Abuse (http://archive.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0800-0899/0827/Sections/0827.03.html) (Jury Instruction (http://lawofselfdefense.com/jury_instruction/flji-16-3-child-abuse/)) because Trayvon Martin was 17 at the time of the shooting.
According to Don West, the defense was not notified until 7:30 a.m. this morning.


This surprise is important because the defense did not have time to research the law, while the State presented numerous cases. Generally it is not a defense to child abuse that the perpetrator did not know the age of the victim. This is an unusual circumstance, however, where Zimmerman was punched in the nose and the “child” was on top punching him — to say that excessive use of force in defense of an attack by a “child” is child abuse certainly requires some time to research and argue. I don’t know the answer to that legal question, but the court should give the defense time to research and argue it.

Don West: Just when I thought case couldn't get more bizarre, the state's now arguing it's 3rd degree felony murder based on child abuse.
— Natalie Tolomeo (@NatalieTolomeo) July 11, 2013 (https://twitter.com/NatalieTolomeo/statuses/355332632243994624)

#zimmermantrial (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23zimmermantrial&src=hash) West: "We wondered why State included TM's age, 17-years-old, completely irrelevant to crime with which GZ charged."
— Andrew Branca, LOSD (@LawSelfDefense) July 11, 2013 (https://twitter.com/LawSelfDefense/statuses/355332882530705410)

#zimmermantrial (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23zimmermantrial&src=hash) West:"Has State been gathering this case law for over a year, so could spring it onus, this Court, this jury, last moment?"
— Andrew Branca, LOSD (@LawSelfDefense) July 11, 2013 (https://twitter.com/LawSelfDefense/statuses/355333084859727874)

West: Not fair to me, #GeorgeZimmerman (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23GeorgeZimmerman&src=hash), O'Mara or court "for this to happen like this right now." #ZimmermanTrial (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ZimmermanTrial&src=hash) #TrayvonMartin (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TrayvonMartin&src=hash)
— Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) July 11, 2013 (https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/statuses/355333511474982915)

#zimmermantrial (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23zimmermantrial&src=hash) West:"I'm not prepared to counter, Mantei has fully formed argument based on case law didn't just come up since yesterday."
— Andrew Branca, LOSD (@LawSelfDefense) July 11, 2013 (https://twitter.com/LawSelfDefense/statuses/355333414930489344)
We will update this post when the court rules.

[Ares]

State realizes that it's case is EXTREMELY weak is just trying to throw anything they can to try and get a conviction.

[General of Darkness]

Have you guys seen this bitch in action? She has to be in cahoots with Obongo/Holder.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgDuu6i8MtE&feature=player_embedded

[General of Darkness]

Anyone watching the live stream because this judge might as well be fucking Holder.

Check it out.

http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

[Cebu_4_2]

Have you guys seen this bitch in action? She has to be in cahoots with Obongo/Holder.


Remember the NSA has dirt on everyone, you have to play by the rules they set, not what is right or wrong.

[Cebu_4_2]

(Update 11:35 a.m. — Judge just indicated she will give defense time to research, but didn’t indicate how long.... until 1 p.m.)

[Cebu_4_2]

Anyone watching the live stream because this judge might as well be fucking Holder.

Check it out.

http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

Back on!

Edit: Another recess until 1:30

[ximmy]

Strange indeed...


Richard Mantei, one prosecutor in the case, explained, "When one commits ... child abuse, and the child dies — the child being defined as a person under the age of 18 — that can constitute felony murder in the third degree."

[Libertytree]

The judge isn't going to allow the child abuse angle.

[Cebu_4_2]

This is much more entertaining than the Simpson case.

[General of Darkness]

Man the prosecutor is grabbing at straws.

[ximmy]

It's a great exercise for TPTB to display their lordship over all humanity. Utilize the power of the court to convict an innocent man before the whole world

[Cebu_4_2]

The prosecutor reminds me of this guy @ 1:38


http://youtu.be/Lyw1E8o9o24

http://youtu.be/Lyw1E8o9o24

[Twisted Titan]

They are gonna get him on a 3rd degree. ..that way the pros3cution could claim victory

3rd manslaughter is like 5 years with the posibilty of probation he could walk in 3

The chimps will go absolutely apeshit regardless and whitey(the unarmed) are gonna pay



You heard it On GSUS first

[General of Darkness]

They are gonna get him on a 3rd degree. ..that way the pros3cution could claim victory

3rd manslaughter is like 5 years with the posibilty of probation he could walk in 3

The chimps will go absolutely apeshit regardless and whitey(the unarmed) are gonna pay



You heard it On GSUS first

I've got to pick up my truck in Hawthorn tomorrow. I will be armed.

[gunDriller]

since when can they change the charge, in the middle of the case ?

[Libertytree]

since when can they change the charge, in the middle of the case ?

As far as I understand it the jury has two choices for a guilty verdict, Murder 2 or Manslaughter. If not one of those it's a not guilty.

[Serpo]

http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/popcorn1.jpg

[Cebu_4_2]

Manslaughter is easy as running over a dog in the dark. It is possible but they WANT race riots so I think he will get off free.

He will sue the shit out of all of them and be a very wealthy man.

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_xbZhvTK-g

[Cebu_4_2]

I have to listen to 5 minutes for a fucking synopsis?

I'll synopsis this biatch

[Cebu_4_2]

Niggers are incapable,

Minorities are incompetent

Blacks, hispanics

Zimmerman is a "white Hispanic"

Wow I am glad I don't listen to thin mainstreet engineer gossip.

[Mouse]

Zim is in a fix
Got a jury full of chicks
And the judge is for the prosecution
Grasping straws and sticks
While the text is in the evidence
Admit it not in court
Judge just got a text message
Abort abort abort
From the smoking man
With the shiny black shoes
Don’t mess around with no
Mexican jews
When the going gets tough
Gotta play dirty tricks
Cuz everybody knows
That all the niggers hate spics

(harmonicas)

[mamboni]

Have you guys seen this bitch in action? She has to be in cahoots with Obongo/Holder.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgDuu6i8MtE&feature=player_embedded

This judge's conduct here is so outrageous. She is advocating for the prosecution. She is abusing her position as "impartial" judge by directly interrogating and coercing the defendant into testifying against his attorney's advice. This is just unfuckingbelievable. She should be disbarred. And Zimmerman should have answered her fucking coersive questions with "I will defer to my attorney." How many damn times did she ask Zimmerman the same question "have you decided to testify? How long do you need to think about it?" This is obvious coercion bordering on intimidation. She should be fired from the case immediately. Where is the damn governor?

[Jewboo]

Where is the damn governor?







http://youtu.be/KRbEaMnCy2Q




http://youtu.be/pXMNzBXqJRE


:D

[Horn]

State realizes that it's case is EXTREMELY weak is just trying to throw anything they can to try and get a conviction.

Does Florida just plea bargain with itself during charged case proceedings?

Something seems terribly like a mistrial.

[Ares]

Does Florida just plea bargain with itself during charged case proceedings?

Something seems terribly like a mistrial.

Should never of been a trial to begin with. The Local PD who were the first responders NEVER took Zimmerman into custody. Only AFTER when it became political did they arrest him. Let him sit in jail while the state decided to take it's marching orders from the race baitors in D.C.

[iOWNme]

This judge's conduct here is so outrageous. She is advocating for the prosecution. She is abusing her position as "impartial" judge by directly interrogating and coercing the defendant into testifying against his attorney's advice. This is just unfuckingbelievable. She should be disbarred.

LOL....Impartial?

Do you know WHO the Judge represents? The STATE. Who is prosecuting Zimmerman? The STATE.

This scam is NOT new. Its just that people are finally waking up to how the world REALLY works.