Fla. mom gets 20 years for firing warning shots

[Cebu_4_2]

Fla. mom gets 20 years for firing warning shots http://i.i.cbsi.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/05/12/MarissaAlexander_620x350.jpg
Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville, Fla., received a 20-years prison sentence, Friday, May 11, 2012, for firing warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband. The judge rejected a defense under Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law. / WETV

(CBS News) JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Florida woman who fired warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband has been sentenced to 20 years in prison.
Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville had said the state's "Stand Your Ground" law should apply to her because she was defending herself against her allegedly abusive husband when she fired warning shots inside her home in August 2010. She told police it was to escape a brutal beating by her husband, against whom she had already taken out a protective order.
CBS Affiliate WETV (http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mostpopular/story/Jacksonville-mother-sentenced-to-20-years/ZVGhtAMlEUC2A_TTNRirkw.cspx) reports that Circuit Court Judge James Daniel handed down the sentence Friday.
Under Florida's mandatory minimum sentencing requirements Alexander could receive a lesser sentence, even though she has never been in trouble with the law before. Judge Daniel said the law did not allow for extenuating or mitigating circumstances to reduce the sentence below the 20-year minimum.
"I really was crying in there," Marissa's 11-year-old daughter told WETV. "I didn't want to cry in court, but I just really feel hurt. I don't think this should have been happening."
Alexander was convicted of attempted murder after she rejected a plea deal for a three-year prison sentence. She said she did not believe she did anything wrong.
She was recently denied a new trial after appealing to the judge to reconsider her case based on Florida's controversial "Stand Your Ground" law. The law states that the victim of a crime does not have to attempt to run for safety and can immediately retaliate in self-defense.
Alexander's attorney said she was clearly defending herself and should not have to spend the next two decades behind bars.
Alexander's case has drawn support from domestic abuse advocates - and comparison to the case of neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, who has claimed a "Stand Your Ground" defense in his fatal shooting of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin.

[Serpo]

if she actually shot and killed him..........15 years..........



whats with Florida ............



this isnt justice ,this is BS.............



thank you again Janet Napolitano we all feel safer locked up in jail

[midnight rambler]

It's not just Floriduh, statists everywhere want a monopoly on violence, it's a trend.

[Serpo]

isnt the sentence more violent ...............

[midnight rambler]

isnt the sentence more violent ...............

Death and destruction is the way of the state - the more death and destruction the happier the statists/collectivists. Like all the talking heads on the one-eyed monster salivating like Pavlov's dog over the prospect of George Zimmerman going to prison for 30 years for defending himself against a violent 17 y.o. who was intent upon causing him serious bodily harm if not death.

[palani]

Good find ... but she was sentenced over a year ago. Where you been?

[ximmy]

"I felt threatened by her firearm," the husband said, "I could not freely beat her into submission with my belt. My life was endangered and I now need counseling to cope with the traumatic shock of looking down the barrel of a gun."

[Serpo]

Good find ... but she was sentenced over a year ago. Where you been?

on the joo haters thread..............missed a year ....hahaha

[palani]

on the joo haters thread..............missed a year ....hahaha

No worries, Mate ... I am on IGNORE!!!

[Libertytree]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...asion/2511523/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/12/man-opens-fire-on-intruders-home-invasion/2511523/)

Fla. man opens fire on intruders during home invasion
MELBOURNE, Fla. -- Mike Augenti heard his girlfriend scream and ran toward the front door. There he confronted several men.

He drew his handgun.

Within moments, the invaders — one grazed by a bullet — had fled, a dog was wounded and Augenti, his girlfriend and their infant daughter were left scared and shocked.

Someone at the corner-lot home called police. It was 11:41 p.m. Wednesday. Gunshots rang out through the neighborhood.

The caller reported as many as four men, some armed with firearms, had broken into the home. Carissa Augenti said her brother confronted the robbers at the front door.

"My brother was just about to leave, and he heard (his girlfriend) scream," she said.

"The homeowner reacted by pulling his own handgun and firing at the suspects," Melbourne Police Sgt. Sheridan Shelley said. A pit bull was hit, Carissa Augenti said.

The suspects fled.

"Officers searched the area of the home looking for the suspects but didn't find them," Shelley said. "Other officers went to area hospitals when they learned there might be an injury."

Officers were waiting at Holmes Regional Medical Center when two men dropped off a man police identified as Bobby Culler, 25. Culler had been shot in the arm; police suspect it was during the home invasion robbery. Culler had an active warrant for his arrest, for allegedly failing to appear in court, and police say more charges are pending when he is released from the hospital. Records show Culler has pending cases accusing him of drug possession and resisting police.

Police caught up with the two men who dropped Culler off. Shelley said one of them, the driver, was released. Investigators are working to determine whether the driver was involved in the original crime.

The passenger, identified by police as Leonard Valentine, was arrested. Valentine, 18, is charged with armed burglary and a violation of probation.

Police did not say whether the suspects returned fire; however, at least one firearm was found in the yard. Six planks of a wood fence ringing Augenti's backyard had been broken and police evidence markers were placed nearby.

Augenti is not facing charges.

"From what we're looking at right now, it would definitely be a case of self defense." Shelley said. "When you have armed intruders entering your home, you do have that right to defend yourself."

Augenti, his sister and his girlfriend returned to the home Thursday morning to pick up some belongings.

"She's not going to be living here anymore. She's startled," Carissa Augenti said. "I'm just glad my brother was here."

[Cebu_4_2]

Probably matters what county in FL?

[Serpo]

Fluorida........................

[madfranks]

20 years? She was just doing what Vice President uncle joe told her to do.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjeSbY2D4b0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjeSbY2D4b0

[Heimdhal]

If this is the case I think it is (i followed it when it first broke) she has no immunity becuase she LEFT the house they were arguing, retrieved a pistol, came back INTO the house, reengaged the argument and then pulled the gun and fired.


I'm sorry, but that is ridiculousness and NOT stand your ground under ANY definition of it. You dont peaceably LEAVE an argument, with no aggressor pursuing you, get a weapon, come back, start shit and then use said weapon in "self defense". At that point she became the aggressor and put HIS life in danger.

To be covered, in hindsight, she should have got in the car and left, if he followed and continued to threaten her with violence, she would have been fine to protect herself. If he chased her OUT of the house or IN the house until she got a gun, she would have been ok. BUt they were in a verbal argument, she left, he did not follow, she came back, pulled a gun and shot at him to scare him.


Whether you feel its right or wrong (and I do think its pointless to jail this woman for 20 years over this, honestly, its just pointless), the way the law is written, she really has no protection because of her own choices and actions.

This is where Zimmerman got hung up on murder 2 charges, because there was enough doubt as to whether he pursued and initiated aggression, hes now at trial. Whether he did or not (and he contends he did not) is really what they are debating.

The Affirmative Self Defense Act (stand your ground) was written specifically to rule out such situations. It is, in fact, a very thought out approach to self defense, unfortunately, it doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room for dumb life choices like this.

What do I know though, I'm only an alter ego for some number of folks on these boards....

[Cebu_4_2]

If this is the case I think it is (i followed it when it first broke) she has no immunity becuase she LEFT the house they were arguing, retrieved a pistol, came back INTO the house, reengaged the argument and then pulled the gun and fired.


I'm sorry, but that is ridiculousness and NOT stand your ground under ANY definition of it. You dont peaceably LEAVE an argument, with no aggressor pursuing you, get a weapon, come back, start shit and then use said weapon in "self defense". At that point she became the aggressor and put HIS life in danger.

To be covered, in hindsight, she should have got in the car and left, if he followed and continued to threaten her with violence, she would have been fine to protect herself. If he chased her OUT of the house or IN the house until she got a gun, she would have been ok. BUt they were in a verbal argument, she left, he did not follow, she came back, pulled a gun and shot at him to scare him.


Whether you feel its right or wrong (and I do think its pointless to jail this woman for 20 years over this, honestly, its just pointless), the way the law is written, she really has no protection because of her own choices and actions.

This is where Zimmerman got hung up on murder 2 charges, because there was enough doubt as to whether he pursued and initiated aggression, hes now at trial. Whether he did or not (and he contends he did not) is really what they are debating.

The Affirmative Self Defense Act (stand your ground) was written specifically to rule out such situations. It is, in fact, a very thought out approach to self defense, unfortunately, it doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room for dumb life choices like this.

What do I know though, I'm only an alter ego for some number of folks on these boards....

Fuck man Thanks BIG time for this! I didn't follow it and just looked at this story. The PTB are at war this is obvious in many ways right now.

[zap]

Oh well, we the people will have to take care of her either way, either through welfare or jail, it still lands on us.

The working folks.

[Heimdhal]

Oh well, we the people will have to take care of her either way, either through welfare or jail, it still lands on us.

The working folks.

Thats PRECISELY it. Some prison will make a million dollars off her for 20 years, some judges will make money in it some where. Some lawyers as well. The system gets a win and the tax payer gets to fill a jail cell for two decades on their dime because mama bear and papa bear are morons whos only victims are each other.

[Bonate]

So, woman has protective order. Check. Woman shoots gun to scare guy off. Check. Guy not injured. Check. Police come because of shots fired and not over protective order. Check. Sorry, they should be paying her for the trauma of having to fire a gun to ward off someone they should have been watching. If she wanted to kill him I'm sure she could have easily. Sickening really...

[zap]

Woman left, went and got a gun, came back to where He was, shot the gun to scare him.... apparently she wasn't to scared.

[Cebu_4_2]

Just can't do right in a fucked up system?

[willie pete]

Woman left, went and got a gun, came back to where He was, shot the gun to scare him.... apparently she wasn't to scared.

you're right, she wasn't scared, she was pissed-off, that's why she came back, for revenge and apparently someone's working on some type of appeal (?) because she isn't in state prison she's being held in the Duval County jail by court order

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates/detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=94173777

https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=10000&agency=900&searchType=offender&id=J46944

[Libertytree]

Oh well, we the people will have to take care of her either way, either through welfare or jail, it still lands on us.

The working folks.

It's things like this, as well as many others, that make me hesitate about going back to work within the system. It also tempts me into trying to take from the system but that seems wrong too.