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Cebu_4_2
13th July 2013, 11:18 PM
This is pretty good.


http://youtu.be/bF-Ax5E8EJc

http://youtu.be/bF-Ax5E8EJc

vacuum
14th July 2013, 12:00 AM
Thanks, the first 23 minutes pretty much caught me up on this whole issue and summarized all of it.

iOWNme
14th July 2013, 05:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbyPWl45uog

palani
14th July 2013, 06:18 PM
Garbage videos for the National Enquirer crowd. The only one who knows for sure is Zimmerman. That said don't expect to find truth in a rehash.

But then is par for cebu ... he is into rumor mongering bigtime.

mamboni
15th July 2013, 05:52 AM
Garbage videos for the National Enquirer crowd. The only one who knows for sure is Zimmerman. That said don't expect to find truth in a rehash.

But then is par for cebu ... he is into rumor mongering bigtime.

Perhaps, but the Molyneux redux rings true and aligns perfectly with my life experience. Trayvon Martin was a kid gone bad and wannabe thug, pot-smoking, violence-prone, recreational drug-abusing loser. Zimmerman was certainly no saint but he was certainly not a racist. His only crime was of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The blacks in America want to have their civil rights cake and eat it too and everyone's rights be damned. Interaction with ignorant violent entitled people is bound to lead to violence. This is why I live in a rural white community. It's really that simple.

palani
15th July 2013, 05:57 AM
My comment was more on the nature of a rant against people who form opinions without knowing what actually happened.

Why are these same people who complain about the verdict not demanding holding the Obama and Bush administrations responsible for killing hundreds if not thousands of people remotely by the drone program? Is one cute kid in a hoodie more valuable than these foreigners (and domestic) individuals who were terminated without so much as a due process hearing?

mamboni
15th July 2013, 06:06 AM
My comment was more on the nature of a rant against people who form opinions without knowing what actually happened.

Why are these same people who complain about the verdict not demanding holding the Obama and Bush administrations responsible for killing hundreds if not thousands of people remotely by the drone program? Is one cute kid in a hoodie more valuable than these foreigners (and domestic) individuals who were terminated without so much as a due process hearing?

Yes, millions of Americans are not only ignorant, they are myopic. People have become intellectually lazy and frankly dishonest. There is no sense of relative values and balance in today's screwed up culture. The population on the whole seems to be in the grips of some kind of mass insanity. It's a twisted combination of entitlement, impatience, willful ignorance and denial. When a society lets a few get away with crimes in plain sight, in time it corrupts and undermines the entire culture. There seems to be no end to the two-wrongs-make-a-right mentality of entitlement and revenge. We've turned our collective back on the teachings of the Christ and we will suffer mightily for it.

Cebu_4_2
15th July 2013, 06:41 AM
Garbage videos for the National Enquirer crowd. The only one who knows for sure is Zimmerman. That said don't expect to find truth in a rehash.

But then is par for cebu ... he is into rumor mongering bigtime.

go FUCK YOURSELF in your OWN useless threads and quit fucking MY THREADS up you big lipped homo.

Mouse
15th July 2013, 06:52 AM
A reasonable person could surmise that two angry people had a go at it and one died. Otherwise known as manslaughter. Since no evidence could prove such a case, he was let loose. If the dumbasses would have charged him as such, they might have got a conviction, instead they went for the jugular.

palani
15th July 2013, 06:54 AM
go FUCK YOURSELF in your OWN useless threads and quit fucking MY THREADS up you big lipped homo. I'll accept your offer to FUCK YOURSELF if you will send the pictures here:

http://www[dot]fbi[dot]gov/contact-us (http://www.gold-silver.us)

I thought I was on IGNORE you MORON.

Why are you trying to communicate with me?

Cebu_4_2
15th July 2013, 07:01 AM
I'll accept your offer to FUCK YOURSELF if you will send the pictures here:

http://www[dot]fbi[dot]gov/contact-us (http://gold-silver.us)

I thought I was on IGNORE you MORON.

Why are you trying to communicate with me?

I'm communicating to the dead, enjoy.

palani
15th July 2013, 07:07 AM
I'm communicating to the dead, enjoy.
You are communicating to yourself then.

JohnQPublic
15th July 2013, 07:44 AM
Please keep the personal attacks down. We don't need any more banning.

Jewboo
15th July 2013, 10:43 AM
People have become intellectually lazy and frankly dishonest.





http://whistleblower-newswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/obama-for-hoodie.jpg


Also on Monday, the White House says President Barack Obama won’t involve himself in the Justice Department decision on whether to pursue civil rights charges against Zimmerman. White House spokesman Jay Carney said it would be inappropriate for Obama to express an opinion on how the department deals with Zimmerman.

Linky (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/2013/07/15/holder-martin-death-unnecessary-shooting/iOb9LOZ213jeEPaYx2DLxM/story.html)

iOWNme
15th July 2013, 04:40 PM
The only one who knows for sure is Zimmerman.

Do you have any reason to believe he is lying?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o


According to Zimmerman there were 2 different people that could have helped him out. One was even before he shot Trayvon. Seems like NOBODY wants to help anyone anymore....

iOWNme
15th July 2013, 04:43 PM
SCG nails this one pretty good.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01nSGb6waE8

palani
15th July 2013, 05:23 PM
Do you have any reason to believe he is lying?

He provided no evidence. He did not take the stand and provide testimony under oath. That is not to say he is lying because he chose to say nothing at all.

Get this. He was under no oath when his side of the story became known. That makes it gossip.

iOWNme
15th July 2013, 05:59 PM
He provided no evidence. He did not take the stand and provide testimony under oath. That is not to say he is lying because he chose to say nothing at all.

Get this. He was under no oath when his side of the story became known. That makes it gossip.

My math professor said 2+2 = 4. He didnt do it under oath. Is this gossip?

Ill ask the Attorner AGAIN: Do YOU have any reason to believe he is lying? If so please provide your info.

midnight rambler
15th July 2013, 06:20 PM
Speaking strictly as someone who's actually been involved in a justifiable shooting AND the aftermath I'm 100% convinced that GZ was telling the truth to the best of his ability both in the PD video taped interviews and the reenactment at the scene.

palani
15th July 2013, 06:28 PM
Do YOU have any reason to believe he is lying? If so please provide your info.

I have no reason to believe he has EVER lied in his entire life.

I have no reason to believe he has ALWAYS told the truth in his entire life.

My opinion counts for absolutely nothing. Unless you KNOW something and are willing to testify to that something under oath then YOUR opinion counts for absolutely nothing.

iOWNme
15th July 2013, 06:56 PM
I have no reason to believe he has EVER lied in his entire life.

I have no reason to believe he has ALWAYS told the truth in his entire life.

My opinion counts for absolutely nothing. Unless you KNOW something and are willing to testify to that something under oath then YOUR opinion counts for absolutely nothing.

I wanted your opinion, so it had value to me. I dont care about 'Law' and 'Courts' and 'Oaths'. They have no value in REALITY.

I guess the hundreds of years of American Jurisprudence that says 'Innocent until proven guilty' is not to be followed, because the innocent would have to come to court and swear an 'oath' before he can prove his innocence. LOL

palani
15th July 2013, 07:18 PM
I wanted your opinion, so it had value to me. I dont care about 'Law' and 'Courts' and 'Oaths'. They have no value in REALITY.
Your opinion is that you know what REALITY is? According to Einstein REALITY is an ILLUSION just more persistent.


I guess the hundreds of years of American Jurisprudence that says 'Innocent until proven guilty' is not to be followed, because the innocent would have to come to court and swear an 'oath' before he can prove his innocence. LOL
Anyone may stand mute. In older times this would get you hauled to the lowest part of the dungeon, stretched flat on the floor and have 500 lbs of armor piled on you, and so you would remain for the rest of your life. I like to think the present system is marginally better but it still comes down to a numbers game. If there are three witnesses against you then you had better prepare to lose. On the other hand if you happen to be the only witness then prepare for a happy tomorrow.

singular_me
16th July 2013, 04:36 PM
yes I concur, veryyy good... it deserves a bump. I watched it yesterday and the speaker is somebody that I value a lot. Of course I also like his take on races which he speaks of during the last 1/4 of his show.

I never bother to watch the spin doctors on CNN, so I am pleased to have a good glimpse at what happened. Sure I need to do more homework before drawing my first conclusion.

iOWNme
18th July 2013, 03:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFSbqcNuBkI

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