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Serpo
15th July 2013, 03:33 AM
Introduction (http://www.blogger.com/null)
Why would a non-Muslim want to read the story of Mohammed? For many Westerners, the life of a self-proclaimed Prophet who died more than 1300 years ago in a remote part of the world might sound not only dull, but also completely irrelevant, in fact it is neither. During his life, Mohammed created a religious and Political movement called Islam, which a quarter of the Earth’s population belongs to and is the world’s fastest growing religion by far. Importantly, the influence of this religion currently stretches into more aspects of our societies than almost any of us realize.



Having made a study of Islamic doctrine and history over the last few years, it very quickly became clear to me that almost all of what is conveyed to us regarding Islam, its goals and its influence on the actions and beliefs of Muslims is entirely wrong. This lack of understanding has been the root cause of the horrendous policy failures in such areas as the “War on terror,” Middle Eastern foreign policy, the Arab, Israeli conflict etc. which tend to dominate our daily news cycle.



It is also clear that the reason for these failures is an almost total lack of knowledge of the doctrine of Islam amongst all sections of Western society, from politicians, academics, journalists, teachers, right on down to the man in the street. Given the rapidly rising threats from Islamic “Extremists” and the growing number of conflicts involving Muslims, this would seem to be a failure of epic proportions.



It is precisely for this reason that I have written this book. I wanted it to be as widely read as possible and so I have tried to make it enjoyable for the man in the street and avoided any hint of dry theological discussion. It is reasonably short and anyone who has an interest in what lies behind the news stories we see every day should find it both interesting and relevant.



By the end, you should also have a good grasp of the doctrine of Islam, what this doctrine expects of Muslims and how that affects the societies in which Muslims are living. Most importantly, this knowledge will give you a whole new understanding of issues involving Islam, from conflicts around the globe, terrorism, immigration, treatment of women etc. which can never be properly understood without a basic grasp of Islamic doctrine.



Islamic scholars have always known that the key to understanding Islam is the story of Mohammed’s life. This is good news for those who wish to understand Islam because Mohammed was an extremely interesting character.



Unlike any other prophet, Mohammed was also a political and military leader, insisting that Muslims should fight when called upon to put Islam in control of the whole world. During the last nine years of his life he and his followers were involved in acts of violent conquest on average, once every seven weeks, until he was the King of all Arabia with not a single enemy standing. The key to his success was a new system of warfare called Jihad which Westerners usually translate as “Holy War” but which is in fact far more than this.



The strange fact is that, although more is known about Mohammed than any other person in history, very few people, even in the Islamic world, know his story. This is not an accident.

The life of Mohammed is the perfect example for all Muslims to follow, and therefore is the basis for the Islamic religion itself. You would expect then that most Muslims would be familiar with the story of Mohammed just as Christians are familiar with the story of Jesus but this is not the case.



Young Muslims are taught to recite the Koran in Arabic, but are sternly dissuaded from understanding its meaning (four fifths of them do not even speak modern Arabic, let alone the archaic form the Koran is written in.) Generally speaking, only those Muslims who are committed enough to want to become Islamic Religious leaders or “Imams” learn the truth about Mohammed’s life. The rest are expected to follow directions from these leaders who keep this knowledge to themselves.



Today, Muslim populations are exploding across the world as Western birth rates plummet. More than ninety percent of all Wars and armed conflicts today involve Muslims and almost all terror attacks (more than fourteen thousand just in the nine years since 9/11) are carried out by Muslim jihadists. The largest and most influential block of countries in the UN (despite their current lack of veto powers) is the fifty seven member, Organization of Islamic Cooperation who also control the lion’s share of the planets dwindling oil reserves.



In years to come these trends will almost certainly accelerate, giving Islam increasing power, not just in the lives of Muslims, but also in the lives of non-Muslims who will increasingly find themselves constricted by laws and demands which reflect this growing influence. If you want to know how this expanding Islamic power and influence is going to affect you and your children and grandchildren (and believe me you really should) then this book is the quickest and easiest way to go about it. If you wish to gain a more serious understanding of this highly complex subject then this book is an excellent first step which will set you in the right direction and serve as a solid foundation.



Tony Blair, George Bush and most other world leaders, academics, journalists and opinion formers in the Western world insist that Islam is a religion of peace which has a few violent radicals, angry at Western foreign policy.



One man who devoted his entire life to the study of Islamic doctrine until he rose to become the spiritual and religious leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, as well as the foremost religious authority for the entire Shiite world (differences between Shia and Sunni Islam are fairly superficial) was the Ayatollah Khomeini. Here is what he had to say about Islam and warfare.



“But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those (who say this) are witless.”

Read the story of Mohammed for yourself and see if you can figure out who is right.





http://thestoryofmohammed.blogspot.com.au/ (http://thestoryofmohammed.blogspot.com.au/)

Spectrism
15th July 2013, 05:49 AM
I was wondering, recently, about a source for this land pirate and murdering scum- Mohammad. Mad, mad MohamMad was not a nice guy. I see that he also extracted 20% from the spoils of their raping and pillaging.

I downloaded the book and will read it in more detail as time permits. Even using the best muslim source for the information, Mohammad is clearly a savage.

Glass
15th July 2013, 06:53 AM
so david koresh was a paedophile as well?

Ponce
15th July 2013, 09:21 AM
A man was born only as a man........till men made him into a God, he was not a real God but only a better man than those who made him into a God.............that is proven by those who wants to kill in his name.

V

Spectrism
15th July 2013, 09:33 AM
A man was born only as a man........till men made him into a God, he was not a real God but only a better man than those who made him into a God.............that is proven by those who wants to kill in his name.
V

He was better? You mean like Obama is better than all of us?




so david koresh was a paedophile as well?

? Where did that come from?
You wrote in English.... maybe like Charles Manson?

mamboni
15th July 2013, 09:34 AM
I'm reading it bit by bit between work tasks - very interesting.

Here's a tidbit:

Mohammed was obviously quite charismatic and very self-confident. He also had the ability to package his message in a quite beautifully poetic form. The whole of the Koran is written poetically, which also makes it easier to memorize. Consequently he attracted quite a number of followers and as his power grew, so did his lust for it. He was extremely narcissistic, and seemed to care only for the adoration of others. The fact that he tore apart his hometown and even his own family did not seem to bother him.


When his uncle lay dying he went to his bedside and asked him to accept Islam. His uncle muttered something and then died. Mohammed's companion said that he thought his uncle had agreed, but Mohammed did not hear him clearly and declared therefore that his uncle would burn in hell. Abu Talib had raised him from being a child, had secured him his first job which led to his successful marriage. He then protected Mohammed’s life from all the trouble which he had created himself. Because he had refused to submit to Islam, Mohammed declared that he was burning in hell.

It takes a very cold detached person to act this way under the circumstances. The word sociopath comes to mind: narcissistic, ruthless, egocentric, lacking in any empathy.

Norweger
15th July 2013, 11:16 AM
I didn't have to read further than the part about "self proclaimed" to realize that this is just another piece of jewish garbage.

They are hysterical these days.

Serpo
15th July 2013, 01:15 PM
so david koresh was a paedophile as well?


sounds like the author was trying to cover his arse so to speak

Spectrism
15th July 2013, 01:44 PM
so david koresh was a paedophile as well?

Oh... yes... I see where that came from. I am not too happy with that reference actually. It seems like a careless accusation and such comments should not be in a serious study.

Serpo
15th July 2013, 01:46 PM
I didn't have to read further than the part about "self proclaimed" to realize that this is just another piece of jewish garbage.

They are hysterical these days.


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I don’t want to bore you all too much but some people will feel that they shouldn’t read this book on moral grounds so I’d like to answer a few likely critics before I go much further. I’m a huge fan of religious freedom, feel free to believe what you want and worship in any way you see fit. If a group of right wing Christians wants to worship in a weird or unusual way it doesn’t bother me one bit.

If, however that group forms together as a political organization and starts trying to influence the way their society is run then I will likely take an interest. If I don’t agree with their political agenda or methods I assert my right to criticize these activities. This is not a religious criticism, this is a Political criticism.

I am not an expert in the religious side of Islam and won’t be commenting much on its religious beliefs or practices except where they have a political aspect. What I will be commenting will be the political objectives, political agenda and political methods which are clearly laid down in Islamic Doctrine. How Muslims interact with each other, or interact with their chosen Deity is a religious matter and doesn’t interest me one bit. How they interact with Non-Muslims (who they refer to as Kaffirs) is a political matter and does concern me. If you continue to read this book you will soon see why.


the jewish lobby do this (political)

Norweger
15th July 2013, 01:57 PM
The Islamic influence in western politics = 0.

http://0.tqn.com/d/usforeignpolicy/1/0/q/5/-/-/Obama-Aipac-3.jpg

Spectrism
15th July 2013, 02:15 PM
The Islamic influence in western politics = 0.



And that, right there, is s somber warning that things can and will get MUCH worse.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9pdJzVaJnc

singular_me
15th July 2013, 02:20 PM
if one reads the apocryphal/non canonized biblical scriptures, Jesus has not been that nice either, especially as a young teen. But many Christians do not care and prefer to take at face value the fact that Bible remains completely silent about him for almost 15 years.

Now it is interesting to notice that Arabic countries BEFORE the Mohammed were HIGHLY advanced, especially in mathematics. We still owe them the way we write our digits... it always is the same story: too much freedom and knowledge call for the return of fundamentalism... however I tend to think that Mohammed is a Vatican-Masonic-Zionist creation, they needed a nemesis to set up their plans of global domination which started with the crusades... as much as I think that blaming Barabas for the death of Jesus was too planned

we are dealing with multi-layers of deceptions with no end in sight... all dogmas and religions are politics in desguise

Cebu_4_2
15th July 2013, 02:59 PM
we are dealing with multi-layers of deceptions with no end in sight...

It doesn't get any clearer than that statement.

Jewboo
15th July 2013, 03:05 PM
Jesus has not been that nice either, especially as a young teen. But many Christians do not care and prefer to take at face value the fact that Bible remains completely silent about him for almost 15 years.





https://paulwilkinson.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/jesus-wore-a-hoodie.jpg?w=420&h=343


Goldy is now gonna share with us His teen juvie record she got from some jew historian.

:rolleyes:

Norweger
15th July 2013, 03:19 PM
And that, right there, is s somber warning that things can and will get MUCH worse.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9pdJzVaJnc

Please spare me your rabid Zionist bullshit.

singular_me
15th July 2013, 03:29 PM
Book, non-canonic scriptures are real, get over it...

I personally don't care as I think the Universal Love Jesus was preaching about is the only message that everybody has to master throughout life. But I have read 20 years or so ago the apocryphal scriptures and it wont alter Jesus' message. Unlike you, I do not get upset when somebody mentions them.

Read them Book, when you get a chance. :) They have been deemed non-canonic because Jesus is more acting like an average boy.

edit: religions shouldn't be about politics. Faith is a personal matter

Spectrism
15th July 2013, 04:00 PM
I love it when someone calls me a zionist or accuses me of spreading their rich words of wisdom. My day is now complete. My whole gang is set on taking over the world so we can wipe out islam. And then we can make the white man provide free skittles to all the black men. Our secret plot is revealed in the koran, in the secret pages of Surat.... and that is why we must destroy every copy. We have special hats to protect us from the dangers in this task.

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/rabbidalirick/c2117888.jpg

Serpo
15th July 2013, 04:02 PM
The Protocols Of Zion Exposed


http://truthernews.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/zion.jpg?w=603&h=300 (http://truthernews.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/zion.jpg)"We will destroy God." ~Protocol # 4

The Protocols of Zion: Discovered in 1903, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is a hoax, allegedly, but never mind that almost everything written the book has actually come to fruition in the last 100 years. Probably the single most powerful document every produced.

“In order to display our system of keeping the governments of the goyim in Europe in check, we shall show our strength by committing terrorist attacks against one of them. If the governments of Europe should collectively rise against us, we shall respond using the military might of America, or China, or Japan.” ~Protocols of Zion # 7

In their own words: Goyim are mentally inferior to Jews and can’t run their nations properly. For their sake and ours, we need to abolish their governments and replace them with a single government. This will take a long time and involve much bloodshed, but it’s for a good cause. Here’s what we’ll need to do:
01. Place our agents and helpers everywhere
02. Take control of the media and use it in propaganda for our plans
03. Start fights between different races, classes and religions
04. Use bribery, threats and blackmail to get our way
05. Use Freemasonic Lodges to attract potential public officials
06. Appeal to successful people’s egos
07. Appoint puppet leaders who can be controlled by blackmail
08. Replace royal rule with socialist rule, then communism, then despotism
09. Abolish all rights and freedoms, except the right of force by us
10. Sacrifice people (including Jews sometimes) when necessary
11. Eliminate religion; replace it with science and materialism
12. Control the education system to spread deception and destroy intellect
13. Rewrite history to our benefit
14. Create entertaining distractions
15. Corrupt minds with filth and perversion
16. Encourage people to spy on one another
17. Keep the masses in poverty and perpetual labor
18. Take possession of all wealth, property and (especially) gold
19. Use gold to manipulate the markets, cause depressions etc.
20. Introduce a progressive tax on wealth
21. Replace sound investment with speculation
22. Make long-term interest-bearing loans to governments
23. Give bad advice to governments and everyone else
Eventually the Goyim will be so angry with their governments (because we’ll blame them for the resulting mess) that they’ll gladly have us take over. We will then appoint a descendant of David to be king of the world, and the remaining Goyim will bow down and sing his praises. Everyone will live in peace and obedient order under his glorious rule.
http://truthernews.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/the-protocols-of-zion-exposed/

Spectrism
15th July 2013, 04:10 PM
The Protocols Of Zion Exposed


http://truthernews.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/zion.jpg?w=603&h=300 (http://truthernews.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/zion.jpg)"We will destroy God." ~Protocol # 4

The Protocols of Zion: Discovered in 1903, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is a hoax, allegedly, but never mind that almost everything written the book has actually come to fruition in the last 100 years. Probably the single most powerful document every produced.

“In order to display our system of keeping the governments of the goyim in Europe in check, we shall show our strength by committing terrorist attacks against one of them. If the governments of Europe should collectively rise against us, we shall respond using the military might of America, or China, or Japan.” ~Protocols of Zion # 7

In their own words: Goyim are mentally inferior to Jews and can’t run their nations properly. For their sake and ours, we need to abolish their governments and replace them with a single government. This will take a long time and involve much bloodshed, but it’s for a good cause. Here’s what we’ll need to do:
01. Place our agents and helpers everywhere
02. Take control of the media and use it in propaganda for our plans
03. Start fights between different races, classes and religions
04. Use bribery, threats and blackmail to get our way
05. Use Freemasonic Lodges to attract potential public officials
06. Appeal to successful people’s egos
07. Appoint puppet leaders who can be controlled by blackmail
08. Replace royal rule with socialist rule, then communism, then despotism
09. Abolish all rights and freedoms, except the right of force by us
10. Sacrifice people (including Jews sometimes) when necessary
11. Eliminate religion; replace it with science and materialism
12. Control the education system to spread deception and destroy intellect
13. Rewrite history to our benefit
14. Create entertaining distractions
15. Corrupt minds with filth and perversion
16. Encourage people to spy on one another
17. Keep the masses in poverty and perpetual labor
18. Take possession of all wealth, property and (especially) gold
19. Use gold to manipulate the markets, cause depressions etc.
20. Introduce a progressive tax on wealth
21. Replace sound investment with speculation
22. Make long-term interest-bearing loans to governments
23. Give bad advice to governments and everyone else
Eventually the Goyim will be so angry with their governments (because we’ll blame them for the resulting mess) that they’ll gladly have us take over. We will then appoint a descendant of David to be king of the world, and the remaining Goyim will bow down and sing his praises. Everyone will live in peace and obedient order under his glorious rule.
http://truthernews.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/the-protocols-of-zion-exposed/




That is the protocols of the devil. Scheme to enslave and then murder mankind but FIRST- separate them from the one true God. MohamMad was part of that plan.

Ponce
15th July 2013, 04:41 PM
Those missing years of Jesus? ......... the Jews problably had him somewhere as a prisoner.

Spect? I respect the fact that you admit that you are a Zionist......I knew this long ago but I wanted to see how long it would take you to come into the light, one of your brothers is still hiding.

V

Serpo
15th July 2013, 05:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq0_n7ZBX_c&feature=youtu.behttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq0_n7ZBX_c&feature=youtu.be

YOUTUBE NOTES....

Jesus Christ already foretold the coming of a One World Government ruled by the devil through his Antichrist, who will finally set himself on the throne in the newly rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. The Zionist World Congress in 1884 or there about already planned three world wars.

After watching "Why I pulled my film" video by LeonardUlrich - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v7H2S... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v7H2S6M8hA) - I decided to pull my information & reference here to Albert Pike.

The Zionists see themselves reigning the whole world after WW III from Jerusalem as the capital. This is where the antichrist will manifest on the throne in the rebuilt temple and demand worship as god. This is during the 7 years of Tribulation that the Bible talks about.

To finance wars Banks were set up. Wars were and are started to make Money! The Rothschild's finance both sides.

Not only are wars started to make money, because the plan of the NWO - as chisseled in stone in 8 languages in the Georgian Guide Stones (search google for more information and videos) to reduce the world population to a maximum of 500 million, and to this end some 6 billion people have to be annihalated, the Rothschilds, Rockefellers etc. supported and support so called bio-warfare: the creation of viruses, released in the population, raking in billions of dollars for vaccines through the pharmaceutical companies they own, women's lib and homosexual terrorism in order to detroy the family and Christianity, abortion, the evil music industry, movie industry, media, and the ECO-sectarian climate movement, the LIE that oil is a fossil fuel to bring another artifical panic and to increase oilprices and more control over the world population, when oil is made in the depth of the earth, as deep oil drilling has evidenced, which is far below levels thet fossils can be found - making oil a limitless resource of energy: IT IS ALL ABOUT WORLD CONTROL BY WORSHIPPERS OF SATAN that they name by his angelic name before he rebelled against God an was thrown out of heavne on...planet earth! This was satan's domain which God gave our ancester Adam. But Adam was no match for the cunning devil who wanted to take over control over the earth again, and therefore deceived Eve (all was fine on the earth until a woman was added...) and by the weakest link - which is always the devils tactic - he deceived & tempted Adam to disobey God, and thus submit to the devil, handing control and the world government over to satan by one act of disobedience. Thank God, He later incarnated in Jesus Christ, so He could pay the penalty for the sin(s) of mankind, by dieing at the cross, and by His resurrection from the death (which satan did not expect), He took control back from satan of the earth and even of death and hell! ALL POWER IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH, JESUS LATER SAID, IS GIVEN UNTO ME! So in Him, mankind, each individual and corporately still has a brilliant furture. Jesus Christ is our hope, our Peace with God, our future, IF we believe, repent and follow Him until the end. No matter what these devilworshippers try to do...satan knows his time is very very short! Jesus Christ is coming back soon, very very soon! Hallelujah!

Excuse me for the poor quality of the video. If you want a better quality you can purchase it from the maker, who gave me permission to upload this video. When I initially uploaded the video, he was upset and told me to remove it, after which I removed all parts but the first (see my videos here), pointing to the link where people could watch the rest: http://video.google.com/videoplay?doc... (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=940661526373589672#) as you can still do. Later he mailed me: "At first I was pissed because sale just stopped. Now it is overwelming to try and keep up with all the uploads of my works. The game is over anyway, we lose. Feel free to do what ever you wish with my Eustace Mullins Video." Eustace Mullins himself was more optimistic.

Spectrism
15th July 2013, 07:10 PM
Those missing years of Jesus? ......... the Jews problably had him somewhere as a prisoner.

Spect? I respect the fact that you admit that you are a Zionist......I knew this long ago but I wanted to see how long it would take you to come into the light, one of your brothers is still hiding.

V

Poncho-are you really that dumb, or are you playing a double sarcasm return?

Ponce
15th July 2013, 08:21 PM
Of course I am dumb, that way I can get away with more hahahahahahahah.

There was this dumb guy at this corner that would ask of every woman that went by "Wanna fuck" and people would make fun of him, specially the men.........but......out of every ten woman that he would ask one would always say YES....... so that he was the king cock of the town.

V

PatColo
15th July 2013, 10:05 PM
I was wondering, recently, about a source for this land pirate and murdering scum- Mohammad. Mad, mad MohamMad was not a nice guy. I see that he also extracted 20% from the spoils of their raping and pillaging.

I downloaded the book and will read it in more detail as time permits. Even using the best muslim source for the information, Mohammad is clearly a savage.

Rabbi Spectrism accidentally speaks the TRUTH! (http://zioncrimefactory.com/jew-world-order/):o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44RKCZBdSY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44RKCZBdSY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44RKCZBdSY)

Spectrism
16th July 2013, 06:04 AM
Rabbi Spectrism accidentally speaks the TRUTH! (http://zioncrimefactory.com/jew-world-order/):o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44RKCZBdSY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44RKCZBdSY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44RKCZBdSY)

You and Poncho really got me figured out. What can I do now? You found my secret videos and you didn't even have to look into the secret pages of the koran. I guess I am in trouble at my next rabbi convention. They will vote me out of the chief controller of the goyim under zionism position. I am ruined. Now I will have to go back to my banker job, making loans to goyim with money that does not exist. At least that magic trick never fails.

PatColo
16th July 2013, 07:46 AM
What can I do now?

You've taken the first step, acknowledging the problem, by admitting "My name is Spectrism, and I'm a JOO."\uu\

Your Goy-By-Choice friends here at GSUS are here to help you, friend. :)

You've seen our bus ads? (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?32651-CS-Monitor-Anti-Scary-Moozlem-bus-ads-appear-in-major-cities&p=278214&viewfull=1#post278214)


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1_WxkOeIxkk/TFDHELMlavI/AAAAAAAAAbg/Y55pipBw-ts/s320/anti-jew-bus-ad.jpg

PatColo
16th July 2013, 08:04 AM
Reality Check for all Islamophobic Christians–Jesus Didn’t Warn Us About the Muslims. He Warned Us About the Jews (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/08/24/reality-check-for-all-islamophobic-christians-jesus-didn%E2%80%99t-warn-us-about-the-muslims-he-warned-us-about-the-jews/)


http://desertpeace.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/sharia.jpg?w=475&h=311&h=311



That’s right, for all you folks out there in the Christianite community frothing at the mouth and getting yourselves all hot-n-bothered these days over “THEM MOOZLIMS” taking over America, implementing Sharia law, cutting off heads, circumcising our women, forcing us to wear burkhas and all the rest, as much as I hate to douse your much-anticipated version of Armageddon with the cleansing waters of reality, nevertheless for the sake of posterity, it’s got to be done.


The fact is (and as disappointing as it will no doubt be for those of you out there sitting anxiously on the brink of your war-orgasm) Jesus never mentioned them–meaning words such as “terrorist”, “jihad”, “Islamo-fascism”, or any of the other sweet nothings constantly shouted into our ears by our friends in the Jewish controlled media that we are taught (forced) to memorize and recite these days. Not once. In fact, if we are to go by what the Bible says–the same book you say “proves” it took exactly 168 hours to create the entire freakin’ universe and which some of you use in justifying handling poisonous snakes–He never even murmured any such thing under His breath. Based on the only “historical record” you use in understanding the big, bad world around us, The Prince of Peace wasn’t even MILDLY concerned with the situation involving one Mohammad ibn Abdullah or his followers. Not only did He–Jesus Christ–not emphatically say these kinds of things, He never even ALLUDED to them…NEVER warned His flock about a period in the future where the world would be threatened by those you all disaffectionately (and with the assistance of your Jewish-dominated media) refer to as “towel-heads”, “sand niggers”, “hajjis” and “camel jockeys”.


I find that rather interesting, don’t you?


Now, I hear some of you screaming “legalism!“ and all sorts of other useless-at-this-point arguments in the pathetic attempt at slithering out of that inescapable bear hug known as fact-based reality, but what you have to remember is that this is the standard set by YOU. After all, you are the ones who follow the words in this book down to the letter in the interests of justifying war in the Middle East, remember? You are the ones holding tenaciously to that “I will bless those who bless thee and curse those who curse thee” nonsense in supporting the mass murder of millions of “THEM MOOZLIMS”.


Therefore, since this–the idea that the Bible is the inerrant word of God–is the standard that indeed you have set, I think we can then dismiss the idea that Jesus just plain forgot to mention it. I think He–meaning Jesus–would have known, wouldn’t you agree? After all, as Christians are taught, He knew all and saw all, so certainly something as big as THIS–meaning the world being dragged to the brink of complete annihilation by a fanatical group of people–THEM MOOZLIMS–is something Jesus would have saw fit to mention.


Actually however, in all fairness, He DID discuss items related to all this, a fact well-known by a certain group of people responsible for orchestrating all this murderous nonsense. Even though He did not use words such as “terrorism,” “jihad,” “Sharia Law” and all the rest, He DID see a storm on the horizon threatening to undo all His hard work in building that thing He referred to as the Kingdom of Heaven.


The problem is, for those these days who are desperate to burn the whole place down, it was not “THEM MOOZLIMS” He warned us about, but rather that OTHER group of fanatical followers of a certain Middle Eastern religion playing such a prominent role in world affairs these days. And do not make the mistake of thinking He was just mildly opposed to these folks, but rather, some might say, militantly. He referred to them as vipers, wolves in sheep’s clothing, children of the Devil and a whole host of other unflattering terms obviously designed to get the point across that these were dangerous creatures. Point of fact is that he was so convinced that they and the ideology driving their behavior was such an existential threat to humanity that He was willing to forfeit His life in trying to warn others, and it wasn’t “THEM MOOZLIMS” but rather “THEM JEWS”.


Yes, that’s right. He didn’t warn people about the “leaven of the Imams” but rather the leaven of the Pharisees. He didn’t forewarn His followers they would be dragged into mosques and persecuted but rather synagogues. In the book of Revelations, used by so many of the false prophets He warned us about as “proof” that it was our duty to expend every drop of our most precious resources we have–meaning our peace, prosperity and the blood of our children–in fighting the Jews’ wars for them, he didn’t pinpoint the cause of this time of future enslavement on the mosques, but rather on the synagogue.


You see, I have to remind you of this because right now you have morphed into a race of rabid dogs tearing to pieces whatever is put in front of you by your Zionist masters, who in reality are your real enemies and plan to kill you after you have finished doing their dirty work for them.


The fact that this needs any kind of explanation to you all is indicative as to how far gone you are in your disease. All the things you wring your hands over these days–the attacks on your Christian faith and the fact that the country has gone to hell in a handbasket–all this isn’t the result of Islam.


It isn’t THEM MOOZLIMS legislating Jesus Christ out of our culture through groups such as the ADL, ACLU, NARAL, NAMBLA, etc, it is THEM JEWS.


It isn’t “THEM MOOZLIMS” buying off our congress people and making them dance the Havanagela in the $30 million dollars a day we send to Israel, but rather THEM JEWS.


It isn’t “THEM MOOZLIMS” pushing gun control, abortion, porn, and the million other things that conservative Christians find obnoxious to their way of life, but rather THEM JEWS.


It isn’t THEM MOOZLIMS spying on America and selling our secrets to our enemies, but rather THEM JEWS.


We could go on and on, but that is a conversation for another time when you have eyes to see and ears to hear.


One thing He got right sure as shit however is the way all of you would fall victim to the lies peddled by His enemies. Remember all that business about a deception “so powerful” that even “the elect” would fall for it?


Congrats, you are part of that “elect” and how proud you must be.


2010 Mark Glenn


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7th trump
16th July 2013, 08:27 AM
Reality Check for all Islamophobic Christians–Jesus Didn’t Warn Us About the Muslims. He Warned Us About the Jews (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/08/24/reality-check-for-all-islamophobic-christians-jesus-didn%E2%80%99t-warn-us-about-the-muslims-he-warned-us-about-the-jews/)


http://desertpeace.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/sharia.jpg?w=475&h=311&h=311



That’s right, for all you folks out there in the Christianite community frothing at the mouth and getting yourselves all hot-n-bothered these days over “THEM MOOZLIMS” taking over America, implementing Sharia law, cutting off heads, circumcising our women, forcing us to wear burkhas and all the rest, as much as I hate to douse your much-anticipated version of Armageddon with the cleansing waters of reality, nevertheless for the sake of posterity, it’s got to be done.


The fact is (and as disappointing as it will no doubt be for those of you out there sitting anxiously on the brink of your war-orgasm) Jesus never mentioned them–meaning words such as “terrorist”, “jihad”, “Islamo-fascism”, or any of the other sweet nothings constantly shouted into our ears by our friends in the Jewish controlled media that we are taught (forced) to memorize and recite these days. Not once. In fact, if we are to go by what the Bible says–the same book you say “proves” it took exactly 168 hours to create the entire freakin’ universe and which some of you use in justifying handling poisonous snakes–He never even murmured any such thing under His breath. Based on the only “historical record” you use in understanding the big, bad world around us, The Prince of Peace wasn’t even MILDLY concerned with the situation involving one Mohammad ibn Abdullah or his followers. Not only did He–Jesus Christ–not emphatically say these kinds of things, He never even ALLUDED to them…NEVER warned His flock about a period in the future where the world would be threatened by those you all disaffectionately (and with the assistance of your Jewish-dominated media) refer to as “towel-heads”, “sand niggers”, “hajjis” and “camel jockeys”.


I find that rather interesting, don’t you?


Now, I hear some of you screaming “legalism!“ and all sorts of other useless-at-this-point arguments in the pathetic attempt at slithering out of that inescapable bear hug known as fact-based reality, but what you have to remember is that this is the standard set by YOU. After all, you are the ones who follow the words in this book down to the letter in the interests of justifying war in the Middle East, remember? You are the ones holding tenaciously to that “I will bless those who bless thee and curse those who curse thee” nonsense in supporting the mass murder of millions of “THEM MOOZLIMS”.


Therefore, since this–the idea that the Bible is the inerrant word of God–is the standard that indeed you have set, I think we can then dismiss the idea that Jesus just plain forgot to mention it. I think He–meaning Jesus–would have known, wouldn’t you agree? After all, as Christians are taught, He knew all and saw all, so certainly something as big as THIS–meaning the world being dragged to the brink of complete annihilation by a fanatical group of people–THEM MOOZLIMS–is something Jesus would have saw fit to mention.


Actually however, in all fairness, He DID discuss items related to all this, a fact well-known by a certain group of people responsible for orchestrating all this murderous nonsense. Even though He did not use words such as “terrorism,” “jihad,” “Sharia Law” and all the rest, He DID see a storm on the horizon threatening to undo all His hard work in building that thing He referred to as the Kingdom of Heaven.


The problem is, for those these days who are desperate to burn the whole place down, it was not “THEM MOOZLIMS” He warned us about, but rather that OTHER group of fanatical followers of a certain Middle Eastern religion playing such a prominent role in world affairs these days. And do not make the mistake of thinking He was just mildly opposed to these folks, but rather, some might say, militantly. He referred to them as vipers, wolves in sheep’s clothing, children of the Devil and a whole host of other unflattering terms obviously designed to get the point across that these were dangerous creatures. Point of fact is that he was so convinced that they and the ideology driving their behavior was such an existential threat to humanity that He was willing to forfeit His life in trying to warn others, and it wasn’t “THEM MOOZLIMS” but rather “THEM JEWS”.


Yes, that’s right. He didn’t warn people about the “leaven of the Imams” but rather the leaven of the Pharisees. He didn’t forewarn His followers they would be dragged into mosques and persecuted but rather synagogues. In the book of Revelations, used by so many of the false prophets He warned us about as “proof” that it was our duty to expend every drop of our most precious resources we have–meaning our peace, prosperity and the blood of our children–in fighting the Jews’ wars for them, he didn’t pinpoint the cause of this time of future enslavement on the mosques, but rather on the synagogue.


You see, I have to remind you of this because right now you have morphed into a race of rabid dogs tearing to pieces whatever is put in front of you by your Zionist masters, who in reality are your real enemies and plan to kill you after you have finished doing their dirty work for them.


The fact that this needs any kind of explanation to you all is indicative as to how far gone you are in your disease. All the things you wring your hands over these days–the attacks on your Christian faith and the fact that the country has gone to hell in a handbasket–all this isn’t the result of Islam.


It isn’t THEM MOOZLIMS legislating Jesus Christ out of our culture through groups such as the ADL, ACLU, NARAL, NAMBLA, etc, it is THEM JEWS.


It isn’t “THEM MOOZLIMS” buying off our congress people and making them dance the Havanagela in the $30 million dollars a day we send to Israel, but rather THEM JEWS.


It isn’t “THEM MOOZLIMS” pushing gun control, abortion, porn, and the million other things that conservative Christians find obnoxious to their way of life, but rather THEM JEWS.


It isn’t THEM MOOZLIMS spying on America and selling our secrets to our enemies, but rather THEM JEWS.


We could go on and on, but that is a conversation for another time when you have eyes to see and ears to hear.


One thing He got right sure as shit however is the way all of you would fall victim to the lies peddled by His enemies. Remember all that business about a deception “so powerful” that even “the elect” would fall for it?


Congrats, you are part of that “elect” and how proud you must be.


2010 Mark Glenn


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To hell with the muslims and the koran and mohammed!
Seperation of church and state means just that Pat, so fuck your sharia fucking bullshit submit or get your head cut off law!

Muslim are of the stone age. There is no comparison to the blessings of Christianity to donkey islam.
Islamic countries are not blessed by the Creator.
We are at the cusp of the end times as written by the Christian Bible and islam is still living in the desert.

Santa
16th July 2013, 09:14 AM
To hell with the muslims and the koran and mohammed!

Seriously?

Horn
16th July 2013, 09:20 AM
Seriously?

Don't tempt him, he may have directions on how to get there.

7th trump
16th July 2013, 10:28 AM
Seriously?
Yeah seriously!
Islam has never been peaceful.....ever! And Islam coming here isnt peaceful intent either.
God gave them their blessings all right...........a worthless good for nothing desert.
Just what do you think was going on in the 90's over in Bosnia?
That was a war between Islam and Christianity. Bosnia was always a christian nation until the islamics came in and murdered christians and took their land. The Christians who settled that land fought back fierce and hard only to have the UN step in and side with islam.

Islam isnt good for anyone.....they are destroying everything in their path. Ask the Hindu's, who I beleive are an actual example of a peacefull nonaggressive religion, about the recent bombings in their countries.
India is having trouble....and what about the Phillipines back in WWII. Islam was stepping in the Phillipines back then beheading innocent victim because they wouldnt submit.
Look at the past of this hidious islamic religion and some people have the gull to say Christians were worng for the crusades.
The crusades was the strong arm of God in action.

Ponce
16th July 2013, 10:32 AM
The man in blue will show himself pretty soon.

V

Norweger
16th July 2013, 10:37 AM
Yeah seriously!
Just what do you think was going on in the 90's over in Bosnia?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xss0Ep1MJM

Norweger
16th July 2013, 10:51 AM
Yeah seriously!
Islam isnt good for anyone.....they are destroying everything in their path. Ask the Hindu's, who I beleive are an actual example of a peacefull nonaggressive religion, about the recent bombings in their countries.

Ask Mossad instead.

Spectrism
16th July 2013, 11:39 AM
Islam is a satanic cult started by a deceived false prophet whose fleshly lust and greed and hate were the fruit to clearly establish the type of tree he was. Islam is a shit sandwich wrapped in toilet paper. All who eat it will die.

MohamMad was a murderous pedophile land pirate. He was a tool of the devil.

Having said that, any of you who wish to follow in that path are fully able to make that choice. Nobody can stop you from wanting or believing what you choose.

Norweger
16th July 2013, 11:44 AM
...said the jew.

Santa
16th July 2013, 11:48 AM
Yeah seriously!

So you'd send billions of people... to hell... because you don't like them?
Remember, millions of people in the mid east have already been bombed, mutilated, burned, poisoned and killed as a consequence of this ongoing war.

Is that not enough for you?

Spectrism
16th July 2013, 12:45 PM
So you'd send billions of people... to hell... because you don't like them?
Remember, millions of people in the mid east have already been bombed, mutilated, burned, poisoned and killed as a consequence of this ongoing war.

Is that not enough for you?

To butt into that conversation.... the whole world is outside the kingdom of God (YHWH). The entire world is doomed to die and be separated from the Creator. All have sinned and deserve hell. All humans.

This was the purpose of Messiah- to save those who would accept His gift. Those who choose to rely on their own strengths and reject the Messiah are free to do so.... and go to hell.

Horn
16th July 2013, 12:55 PM
The entire world is doomed to die and be separated from the Creator. All have sinned and deserve hell. All humans.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QfwyqjENnA

Santa
16th July 2013, 01:01 PM
To butt into that conversation.... the whole world is outside the kingdom of God (YHWH). The entire world is doomed to die and be separated from the Creator. All have sinned and deserve hell. All humans.

This was the purpose of Messiah- to save those who would accept His gift. Those who choose to rely on their own strengths and reject the Messiah are free to do so.... and go to hell.

It seems to me that the desire to condemn others to hell is a sure sign that His gift has not been accepted.

Spectrism
16th July 2013, 01:10 PM
It seems to me that the desire to condemn others to hell is a sure sign that His gift has not been accepted.

Whose desire?

The only person who can condemn people to hell are the people who choose to reject Messiah. Are you so obtuse and willfully blind that you cann read what is plain before you?

Ponce
16th July 2013, 01:14 PM
Hahahahahahahaahah you people are funny......all that you are doing is to go around and around in a circle, like a dog trying to bite his own tail......good or bad what will be will be and there is nothing that you can do about it.

V

Santa
16th July 2013, 01:21 PM
Whose desire?

The only person who can condemn people to hell are the people who choose to reject Messiah. Are you so obtuse and willfully blind that you cann read what is plain before you?

Apparently, both 7th Trump and yourself would like to see billions of Muslims go to hell. Is that not desire?

Horn
16th July 2013, 01:25 PM
Hahahahahahahaahah you people are funny......all that you are doing is to go around and around in a circle, like a dog trying to bite his own tail......good or bad what will be will be and there is nothing that you can do about it.

V


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVuEC3r7a-o

You're one of those White Latinos aren't you?

Norweger
16th July 2013, 01:30 PM
Those who believe they are saved surely are not.

singular_me
16th July 2013, 02:49 PM
Goldy is now gonna share with us His teen juvie record she got from some jew historian.

:rolleyes:

okay find me in the Bible what Jesus has done between 14 and 30 years of age... listening

Serpo
16th July 2013, 03:29 PM
http://reluctant-messenger.com/issa.htm


(http://reluctant-messenger.com/issa.htm)http://www.answering-islam.org/Ahmadiyya/notovich.htm



http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/The-Little-Known-Legend-of-Jesus-in-Japan-183833821.html

Horn
16th July 2013, 04:05 PM
okay find me in the Bible what Jesus has done between 14 and 30 years of age... listening

Its only from the point of baptism that matters.

Even Spectro would agree you (a muslim) can be completely washed clean in a minute or less.

Spectrism
16th July 2013, 06:02 PM
Hahahahahahahaahah you people are funny......all that you are doing is to go around and around in a circle, like a dog trying to bite his own tail......good or bad what will be will be and there is nothing that you can do about it.
V

If you could see the horsefly biting the dog's tail, you would know the dog is not trying to bite its own tail at all.

And if your philosophy is correct, i.e., whatever will be will, then why do you stock toilet paper, silver and matches? Do you think you have any influence on your own life? Surely you can't believe both ways.



Apparently, both 7th Trump and yourself would like to see billions of Muslims go to hell. Is that not desire?

No. Just the opposite. I would like to see all of mankind repent of sins and turn to the Messiah. On judgment day, however, when most of mankind stands in rejection of Messiah, I will stand with the Messiah and say: All glory and honor and power to YHWH for His judgments are true and His mercy is unsurpassed.

When He gave His only-begotten Son as a perfect sacrifice to bring us into atonement with Him, and we rejected that sacrifice in our own pride, there is nothing left to save us. People who put their faith in false prophets or false gods will surely be lost.



Those who believe they are saved surely are not.

Those who do not believe they are saved have no faith and without faith it is impossible to please YHWH. Those who trust in Messiah and know Him personally KNOW they are saved as faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen.



okay find me in the Bible what Jesus has done between 14 and 30 years of age... listening

Show me in the dictionary where it says: oogelmacgrackleberry.



Its only from the point of baptism that matters.
Even Spectro would agree you (a muslim) can be completely washed clean in a minute or less.

Yes and no. In a general context, all it takes is being washed in the blood of the Lamb of God- Messiah.... to be known by Him and surrendered to His will. But for the context you used, no. The baptism of Messiah was the beginning of His public ministry. That timing had to match scripture perfectly as He was the fulfillment of many prophecies. He was sinless His entire life, born without sin since He did not have a human father. It is by the seed of the fathers that the sin nature of man is passed on. But it is only for mankind that Messiah was born to die.

Horn
17th July 2013, 08:39 AM
It is by the seed of the fathers that the sin nature of man is passed on. But it is only for mankind that Messiah was born to die.

Oh I remember having this conversation before, and some have problems with alien notions poisoning the well.

Spectrism
17th July 2013, 10:04 AM
Oh I remember having this conversation before, and some have problems with alien notions poisoning the well.

"Aliens" are fallen angels whose seed is horribly tainted with sin, and they are not given the ability to procreate. They use human women to make a hybrid. Two problems: sin tainted flesh and now outside the race of mankind. There is no salvation provided for the fallen angels or anything they happen to make.

Horn
17th July 2013, 11:06 AM
"Aliens" are fallen angels whose seed is horribly tainted with sin, and they are not given the ability to procreate. They use human women to make a hybrid. Two problems: sin tainted flesh and now outside the race of mankind. There is no salvation provided for the fallen angels or anything they happen to make.

Preying upon Gaia, the Earth bound god, you are, Spectro.

http://www.maniacworld.com/dog-yoda-halloween-costume.jpg

willie pete
17th July 2013, 12:04 PM
I was curious about something, is it OK and within bounds today in islam for a 53 year old man to marry a 6 year old girl but not have sex with her until she's 9 years old?

optionT
17th July 2013, 02:34 PM
No more mosques or temples in the USA, and ship the muslims and jews out!

Horn
17th July 2013, 03:20 PM
gentium univit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccGz-li_rgM

Norweger
17th July 2013, 03:39 PM
I was curious about something, is it OK and within bounds today in islam for a 53 year old man to marry a 6 year old girl but not have sex with her until she's 9 years old?

Jewish propaganda.

7th trump
17th July 2013, 03:49 PM
Jewish propaganda.

Really............show the proof!

7th trump
17th July 2013, 03:53 PM
Jewish propaganda.

Really............show the proof!
As of right now the internet is full documented stories of muslim men marrying children girls.

singular_me
17th July 2013, 04:16 PM
either aliens are utterly predatory or they can teach us great wisdom, either ways it is scary.... I agree. : so lets NOT take a chance! :)



"Aliens" are fallen angels whose seed is horribly tainted with sin, and they are not given the ability to procreate. They use human women to make a hybrid. Two problems: sin tainted flesh and now outside the race of mankind. There is no salvation provided for the fallen angels or anything they happen to make.

midnight rambler
17th July 2013, 04:23 PM
either aliens are utterly predatory or they can teach us great wisdom, either ways it is scary.... I agree. : so lets NOT take a chance! :)

There are a number of types of so-called 'aliens', some completely benign, others who are intent upon causing us great harm - amongst others.

singular_me
17th July 2013, 04:24 PM
Id agree with this phrase. Believe in whatever you want is fine with me but believing in some savior is not taking personal responsibility in the end. Jesus could be seen as a savior but it is a human perspective, the best is to take him as an example in actions and words. Doing otherwise is an interpretation failure of the textbooks. True believers live according to their belief system. Working for a big monopoly corporation then going to mass on the weekend doesn't mix, if you see what I mean. Or going to mass and supporting the bombing of a foreign nation is evil. We all have shady areas in our lives, including me, but working toward eliminating such paradoxes should be the priority #1 of anyone believing in a Higher Power..

However, I think its sad that people very often create their own hell, no need to die to confirm that hell does exist.



Those who believe they are saved surely are not.

Spectrism
17th July 2013, 04:42 PM
either aliens are utterly predatory or they can teach us great wisdom, either ways it is scary.... I agree. : so lets NOT take a chance! :)

Here is the problem. If there are aliens who are intending to help the human race, they would have provided corrective teaching long ago to prevent nuclear and heavy metal toxification of this planet. And if they were good, then there would be a code of righteousness or justice that they would live out.

I am quite certain that there have been "visitors" in our world, but they are more than visitors... they are inhabitants. The nature of mankind and its mere existence tells us that things are not good. I see the nature of mankind as fallen and evil. It is clear to me that there is a working within the human soul that is depraved and wicked.

Soon we will see the grand presentation of these "alien" beings. They are already working among us. For them, this world is the best they will ever see. They are locked into a time window and their time will soon run out, unless they can change the times and the laws.

singular_me
17th July 2013, 04:44 PM
hello MR, I think that all the evil and good that we see on this planet, does also exist on every cosmic levels, the only ones that can affect us are the ones above us.. so I don't see us able to escape the threat in anyway, if there is one...






There are a number of types of so-called 'aliens', some completely benign, others who are intent upon causing us great harm - amongst others.

Spectrism
17th July 2013, 04:47 PM
hello MR, I think that all the evil and good that we see on this planet, does also exist on every cosmic levels... so I don't see us able to escape the threat in anyway, if there is one...

Probably the most accurate thing I ever so you write.

We are manifestations of higher realms and what we see is the manifestation of forces at work unseen. But we are not without protection. There ia a highest authority who is just and personal. He is letting the times play out as a gardener lets his crops grow among the weeds. The harvest is coming soon for all.... and very soon for some.

willie pete
17th July 2013, 04:53 PM
Jewish propaganda.

I was sure I'd read something at some point in time that stated mohammed, at the age of 53, had taken a 6 year old girl as one of his wives, but didn't sleep with her until she was 9 years old, anyone else ever read or heard of this? I was wondering if this was still current practice.

singular_me
17th July 2013, 04:57 PM
you'd agree with David Icke here, who claims that our planet has been ruled by mal intended aliens for a very long time... but it was not my intention to go along those lines when I replied to you, I was trying to make it funny for a change.... But I think the threat could be real, although there are too good aliens out there. Its a 50-50% if we make - or not.


Here is the problem. If there are aliens who are intending to help the human race, they would have provided corrective teaching long ago to prevent nuclear and heavy metal toxification of this planet. And if they were good, then there would be a code of righteousness or justice that they would live out.

I am quite certain that there have been "visitors" in our world, but they are more than visitors... they are inhabitants. The nature of mankind and its mere existence tells us that things are not good. I see the nature of mankind as fallen and evil. It is clear to me that there is a working within the human soul that is depraved and wicked.

Soon we will see the grand presentation of these "alien" beings. They are already working among us. For them, this world is the best they will ever see. They are locked into a time window and their time will soon run out, unless they can change the times and the laws.

Santa
17th July 2013, 05:07 PM
either aliens are utterly predatory or they can teach us great wisdom, either ways it is scary.... I agree. : so lets NOT take a chance! :)
Thanks for the heads up.
I'll use the moment as a reminder or affirmation to myself.

I will not mate with aliens.
I will not mate with aliens.
I will not mate with aliens.

And I advise any women to avoid doing so as well. Especially if they're large and excessively handsome.
We don't want to repeat those mistakes again, now do we? :)

singular_me
17th July 2013, 05:26 PM
Good one, Santa... but do get me started. ROFLOL


Thanks for the heads up.
I'll use the moment as a reminder or affirmation to myself.

I will not mate with aliens.
I will not mate with aliens.
I will not mate with aliens.

And I advise any women to avoid doing so as well. Especially if they're large and excessively handsome.
We don't want to repeat those mistakes again, now do we? :)

Norweger
17th July 2013, 05:59 PM
I was sure I'd read something at some point in time that stated mohammed, at the age of 53, had taken a 6 year old girl as one of his wives, but didn't sleep with her until she was 9 years old, anyone else ever read or heard of this? I was wondering if this was still current practice.

No, it's not a current practice and it's never been one. It's just a myth by those who are seeking to defame Islam.

Jewboo
17th July 2013, 06:07 PM
Jewish propaganda.



Exactly. The entire thread. And they are obviously now distracted from who actually matters:



http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jewish-banking-Crooks-320x263.png



http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-com-lounge/6566d1103008282-wtf-smiley-hippy.gif <--- watch closely as the jews meanwhile rob America blind...lol.

7th trump
17th July 2013, 06:08 PM
No, it's not a current practice and it's never been one. It's just a myth by those who are seeking to defame Islam.

Go google the practice of islamic men marrying little girls.
islam will defame islam for what islam is in the light of the truth.


You're ignorant!

Ponce
17th July 2013, 06:18 PM
7th? according to the Jews is OK to have sex with a three year old.......are you familiar with any of that? I can give you some links if you are not........

V

Norweger
17th July 2013, 07:11 PM
Nothing makes the Jewish shills more visible than the Islamic question.

Spectrism
17th July 2013, 07:24 PM
Nothing makes the Jewish shills more visible than the Islamic question.

You are trying to sell a shit sandwich and your sales pitch is that the jews are worse?

7th trump
17th July 2013, 07:48 PM
7th? according to the Jews is OK to have sex with a three year old.......are you familiar with any of that? I can give you some links if you are not........

V

Yes, Mr. Ponce I am aware of it. It went through my mind to say something about that, but we aren't talking about jews so I didn't bring it up.
Those who say they are the chosen and are of the synagogue of satan will be dealt with accordingly.
These things who say they are the chosen are put in the firey pit and literally consumed from within...they are destroyed (their very existence is uncreated).
Just so you know these jews who are of the synagogue of satan are people who sided with Lucifer when he rebelled. They are just like me or you but God puts these identity theives in a blood line separate from the real chosen.
Unfortunately there is confusion because there was two tribes of the twelve tribes who didn't migrate over the caucaucian mountains stayed in the Mideast region.
These "chosen" identity thieves imposters have mixed in with these two tribes injecting their satanic rituals that eventually brainwashed the real chosen into following satan.
There is two houses....the house of Isreal and the house of Judah.....one lost and one high jacked They will be brought together as a single branch after Christs 1000 year rule of an iron rod.
As you can see Spec is aware of this confusion siding some what with the "jews", but cautious. I don't blame him as hes not stupid of Gods word about going against Gods chosen People, but I don't know if he has put a finger on it to decipher them apart.....like I said its a touchy situation that needs a keen eye to understand.
All I can say is there are two high jacked tribes that are doing some bad stuff blindedly that God still loves.
Its the parable of the fig tree Ponce..........two branches will shoot off. One has bad fruit and one does not.

willie pete
17th July 2013, 08:22 PM
No, it's not a current practice and it's never been one. It's just a myth by those who are seeking to defame Islam.

is it true though, that mohammed did indeed marry a 6 year old girl when he was 53, then waited until she was 9 years old to sleep with her?

7th trump
17th July 2013, 08:55 PM
is it true though, that mohammed did indeed marry a 6 year old girl when he was 53, then waited until she was 9 years old to sleep with her?

Well......from doing a little research on the matter....yes mohammed did marry a 6 year old.
Apparently it was common practice then as it is today.

A land pirate
A murderer
A child rapist
And a false prophet all to boot

No wonder why the weak non-disciplined are attracted to islam.
Its a gibsmedats religion for sure.

willie pete
17th July 2013, 09:04 PM
Well......from doing a little research on the matter....yes mohammed did marry a 6 year old.
Apparently it was common practice then as it is today.

A land pirate
A murderer
A child rapist
And a false prophet all to boot

No wonder why the weak non-disciplined are attracted to islam.
Its a gibsmedats religion for sure.


yea, after looking around a little more, it appears that was the case, I have to think even back in that period of time, some would be uncomfortable with a 53 year old man marrying a 6 year old girl, at the very least it seems very unnatural

Tumbleweed
17th July 2013, 09:53 PM
Exactly. The entire thread. And they are obviously now distracted from who actually matters:



http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jewish-banking-Crooks-320x263.png



http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-com-lounge/6566d1103008282-wtf-smiley-hippy.gif <--- watch closely as the jews meanwhile rob America blind...lol.

Book it's my belief that Jews and muslims are both the enemies of christians. I'm christian. Which group do you identify with?

gunDriller
17th July 2013, 10:18 PM
"Around A.D. 610, one man’s mystical experience in the Arabian Desert forever changed the world. In a cave outside Mecca, in what is now Saudi Arabia, a trader named Muhammad—a man known for his honesty and integrity—is said to have had a visit from the angel Gabriel. The angel told him he was to become a prophet and revealed the first few words of what would become the holy book of Islam, the Quran.

Muslims believe Muhammad was a descendant of Ishmael—Abraham’s first son by his wife’s maid, Hagar—forever linking Islam with Judaism and Christianity as one of the three, great monotheistic faiths.

Muhammad’s historical impact has been immense. His teachings, and the Islamic faith, have directly influenced social, political and religious institutions for 14 centuries.

Over those centuries, Islam spread out of Arabia, sweeping in three great arcs—one across North Africa and eventually into Spain, another north through the Middle East across Europe to the gates of Vienna, and the third east across Asia to the Pacific. "


http://btw.imb.org/history.asp

seems like a part of the world where you needed to make sure you had some water, or you'd have a really bad day. or the neighbor you killed for his well - or the Palestinians whose wells you poisoned if you were an Israeli Jew - they would have a bad day.

Tumbleweed
17th July 2013, 10:28 PM
I think Mohamad was channeling when he recieved his information.

http://www.allabouttheoccult.org/channeling.htm

Channeling – Historical origins
According to those who practice channeling, it is the contemporary term for spiritism. Channeling has been present since ancient times when people sought advice from the spirit world -- like the oracles in Roman and Greek times who sought advice from the fates. There are accounts in the Bible of ancient people seeking out mediums and wizards who would whisper and mutter (Isaiah 8:19 (http://www.allaboutgod.com/truth/isaiah-8.htm#19)). Some say that the modern renaissance of spiritism can be attributed to Emmanuel Swedenborg, who lived from 1688-1722 and had a large following. Kate and Margaret Fox started an American spiritualist movement in 1848. The sisters received messages from the recently deceased as the spirits tapped their tabletop, rapping out a message using the alphabet. Channeling has become a popular activity in this present age. The Hollywood culture has helped the spread of its popularity. Many religious cults make use of channeling, including shamanism, voodoo, and other New Age groups.
Channeling – Practices and beliefs
The practices and beliefs for channeling are varied. Tools used in channeling are tarot cards (http://www.allabouttheoccult.org/tarot-cards.htm), Ouija boards (http://www.allabouttheoccult.org/ouija-board.htm), and trance media. The medium reads tarot cards and remains conscious while seeking a spirit to channel information through the cards. When the medium uses a trance media, the medium is not aware of his/her surrounding and must be told later what the spirit had spoken through them.

The basis of the channeling practices and beliefs, and the messages given by spirits through those channels is that there is not a one omnipotent God; creator of heaven and earth. The belief system of channeling explains that there are multiple layers of consciousness and many spirit beings in various stages of evolution or development.
Channeling – Christian response
What does God have to say about channeling practices? The Bible says that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1 (http://www.allaboutgod.com/truth/genesis-1.htm)). This means that God was outside of time and space to be able to create time and space and everything in the universe -- visible and invisible. He is separate from His creation. It is true that God is present everywhere, but everything is not God.

In the Ten Commandments, God says, “You shall have no other gods before me” (Exodus 20:3 (http://www.allaboutgod.com/truth/exodus-20.htm)). This statement implies there are other spirits out there acting as gods. These are spirits that God created who later sinned and turned against Him. People seeking mediums to hear the spirits speak, and channelers allowing the spirits to speak through them are in essence elevating those spirits as though they were God; thereby, breaking the first commandment.

Jewboo
17th July 2013, 10:36 PM
Book it's my belief that Jews and muslims are both the enemies of christians. I'm christian. Which group do you identify with?




http://www.americasmuslimfamily.com/americas-muslim-family/images/indexImages/summer2006/Cover600px.jpg


You on your South Dakota cattle ranch and me here in Boise don't have to worry about Muslims. Let's get real here buddy. This thread is intentionally designed to distract us from our REAL (http://www.jewishidaho.com/) enemy. You personally know any Muslim who harms us more than THESE (http://jewishfaces.com/) creatures? I don't know a single one.




:D this thread is a psy-op

Tumbleweed
17th July 2013, 10:43 PM
Jews and muslims are both a threat to christians and have been for a long time. Christians need to be aware of it and if they aren't they need to study history.

When I cross the great divide I hope to meet Jeusus Christ. Not the murderer, rapist, pedophile Mohamad the muslims worship or Satan the god of the Jews.

Ponce
17th July 2013, 10:54 PM
I have known only one Palestinian family and also hundred of Zionist (at that time I called them Jews) I wished that it had been the other way around.

V

Tumbleweed
17th July 2013, 11:07 PM
Neither Jews or Muslims are the friends of christians.

http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/freemasonry/freemasonry-is-it-satans-door-to-america

Freemasonry


Is it Satan's Door to America?by Ed Decker

Freemasonry is a puzzle. It appears to be a society designed to bring fellowship and benevolence together in a fraternal manner, yet its secret side makes many people more than a bit wary, with good reason.This is clearly the case with the Shriners. Their public image is that of a fun time group pouring out millions of dollars into charity, all the while dressed up in a party spirit, wearing their Red Fezzes with great aplomb.The Fez itself, is an example of this double meaning behind most of Freemasonry's facade. Worn and even carried to the grave with pompous dignity, the history of the Fez is barbaric and anti-Christian. In the early 8th century, Muslim hordes overran the Moroccan city of Fez, shouting, "There is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet."There, they butchered approximately 50,000 Christians. These men, women and children were slain because of their faith in Christ, all in the name of Allah, the same demon god to whom every Shriner must bow, with hands tied behind his back, in worship, proclaiming him the god of his fathers in the Shrine initiation , at the Altar of Obligation.The Shriner's blood oath and confession of Allah as God is documented in the secret Lodge document, THE MYSTIC SHRINE, AN ILLUSTRATED RITUAL OF THE ANCIENT ARABIC ORDER NOBLES OF THE SHRINE, 1975 Edition, (pages 20-22). Remember that Allah is not just another name for God. Allah is the name of another god. In usual occult fashion, the initiate swears that he will be inseparably obligated to this "most powerful and binding oath", in advance, and that he may NEVER retract or depart from it.During the butchering of the people of Fez, the streets literally ran red with the blood of the martyred Christians. The Shriners wear that same red Fez today. The greatest tragedy is that the Fez is often worn by men who profess to be Christians themselves. It must cause God to weep.A curious piece of the Masonic puzzle is the actual street layout for our Capital city, Washington, D.C.. You see, the city was laid out in the form of the central Masonic Symbols, the Square, the Compass, the Rule and the Pentagram.Take any good street map of downtown Washington, D.C. and find the Capitol Building. Facing the Capitol from the Mall and using the Capitol building as the head or top of the Compass, the left leg is represented by Pennsylvania Ave. and the right leg, Maryland Ave. The Square is found in the usual Masonic position with the intersection of Canal St. and Louisiana Ave. The left leg of the Compass stands on the White House and the right leg stands on the Jefferson Memorial. The circle drive and short streets behind the building form the head and ears of what Satanists call the Goat Of Mendes or Goat's head!Sitting on top of the White House is an inverted 5 pointed star, or Pentagram. It faces North, with the point down in true occult fashion. It sits within the intersections of Connecticut and Vermont Avenues north to Dupont and Logan Circles, with Rhode Island and Massachusetts going to Washington Circle to the West and Mt. Vernon Square on the East.The Pentagram or five-pointed star is, of course, both a Masonic symbol and the ancient symbol of witchcraft. With its point facing down (or south, when placed on the ground) it is especially associated with Satanism. Satanists can be found wearing the inverted pentagram frequently; and it appears on the cover of many black magic books, including THE SATANIC BIBLE. In this form, it is also the emblem of the Eastern Star, the women's Masonic organization.

The Jews and the Muslims have both denied Jesus Christ and that makes them the children of Satan.

Jewboo
17th July 2013, 11:14 PM
When I cross the great divide I hope to meet Jesus Christ.





http://designapplause.com/wp-content/xG58hlz9/2013/03/pope1.png

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0148c80941d8970c-600wi



I dunno about your Catholic Church being the way to salvation buddy. Looks like a bunch of fags infested the Vatican. Millions and millions of devout very poor Mexican families tithe and the homos in Rome spend it on their own personal satin and lace and gold frocks. And the fabulous shoes! About as gay and corrupt as it gets. Did Jesus and his disciples do this?




:rolleyes:


http://www.mandarava.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/famous-quotation-jesus-love-your-enemy.jpg



About this very thread...what did Jesus plainly say ?



:(?? see why I avoid these religious debates?

Tumbleweed
17th July 2013, 11:21 PM
The pope ain't Jesus Christ and he's going to have to answer for himself. I personaly think he's in a lot of trouble. I'm a follower of and a believer in Jesus Christ.

Tumbleweed
17th July 2013, 11:26 PM
:(?? see why I avoid these religious debates?

The Muslims are no damn good and neither are the Jews. They're both the children of Satan and I can see no reason to defend either one of them and their religion.





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Jewboo
17th July 2013, 11:33 PM
the muslims are no damn good and neither are the jews.




https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/4-14_Marines_in_Fallujah.jpg


http://www.globalresearch.ca/articlePictures/fallujah3.bmp

Christian Americans bring Jesus to the town of Fallujah (http://www.globalresearch.ca/fallujah-a-disgrace-for-the-usa-an-eternal-curse-on-humanity/21131).



:rolleyes: Can't imagine why Muslims don't love us much

Jewboo
17th July 2013, 11:41 PM
I'm a follower of and a believer in Jesus Christ.



Oh. I thought you were Catholic.

:)


Just incase anybodys wonderin my ancestors were mostly Irish and I'm catholic

Norweger
17th July 2013, 11:53 PM
Neither Jews or Muslims are the friends of christians.
The Jews and the Muslims have both denied Jesus Christ and that makes them the children of Satan.

Jews yes, muslims no. Muslims considers him a prophet.

Jewboo
18th July 2013, 12:12 AM
Introduction (http://www.blogger.com/null)


Why would a non-Muslim want to read the story of Mohammed? For many Westerners, the life of a self-proclaimed Prophet who died more than 1300 years ago in a remote part of the world might sound not only dull, but also completely irrelevant...



This thread is a perfect example of how GSUS is intentionally being distracted from important stuff like THIS (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/17/nsa-surveillance-house-hearing).

You fools are researching what underwear Mohammed might have worn centuries ago but don't know that the NSA can perform 'three-hop queries' through GSUS Members data and records. Three-hop. Look it up and learn something relevant.

:D fools

Serpo
18th July 2013, 02:09 AM
This thread is a perfect example of how GSUS is intentionally being distracted from important stuff like THIS (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/17/nsa-surveillance-house-hearing).

You fools are researching what underwear Mohammed might have worn centuries ago but don't know that the NSA can perform 'three-hop queries' through GSUS Members data and records. Three-hop. Look it up and learn something relevant.

:D fools


Gee Im so sorry Book for distracting people away from the important issues


Of course Islam is only a side issue and not important


Its best we cow from the NSA...............


So Im some psy-op agent now

Wasnt I a new age esoteric nut case


this thread is titled ..........
The Story of Mohammed............



nothing more and nothing less...................94 post later


we already know about the NSA and that they are a bunch of nut cases spying on everything in the world and then giving the information to American companies ,its also called insider trading on information and these people are crooks.


and by the way ,he didnt wear underwear.....................

7th trump
18th July 2013, 05:12 AM
Jews yes, muslims no. Muslims considers him a prophet.

They deny Christ as the Son. Which is to say Christ is not God Himself in the flesh.
Christ said the only way to salvation is through Him.
Islam looks at Christ as just another prophet like Moses.
They put the murdering land pirate baby raper pediphile mohammed above Christ.

They blame America for all their problems.

Norweger
18th July 2013, 05:37 AM
They deny Christ as the Son. Which is to say Christ is not God Himself in the flesh.
Christ said the only way to salvation is through Him.
Islam looks at Christ as just another prophet like Moses.
They put the murdering land pirate baby raper pediphile mohammed above Christ.

They blame America for all their problems.

If Jesus (pbuh) was god himself then who upheld the universe while he was staying on planet earth?

7th trump
18th July 2013, 07:14 AM
If Jesus (pbuh) was god himself then who upheld the universe while he was staying on planet earth?

The same way God will uphold the universe when He reestablishes His throne in Jerusalem.

You have absolutely no clue about lucifers rebellion to understand whats going on.
God was on earth before lucifer revolted. Heck I bet you dont know that lucifer was one of Christ's protectors.....todays equivalent of an armed guard if you will.
Christ has always been there from the very start.
You have a typical fantasy vision of what heaven is supposed to be like which is obstructing your way. Because God having created all his creations with free-will Christ being a mediator between God and His creation needed armed guards. Free Will is love clear on down to anger, jelousy and hate.....its all this wrapped in one, so yes Christ needed body guards.
Lucifer (a creation) was one of the armed guards, but lucifer over time lusted to be Christ (the mercy seat) and revolted taking 1/3 of Gods creation to worship lucifer over God and Christ. He wanted to be worshipped. This of course causes a problem with the creator. Its also the reason behind a certain Commandment of thou shall not have any other gods before thee.

In Genesis you have two tree's.........the Tree of Life (Christ) and the other.......the tree of knowledge of good and evil (lucifer). One was to be partaken of (Christ) and the other you're not (lucifer).
In the Bible there are three dispensations of time (earth ages) describing the time when and before lucifer revolted, the time each and everyone of us are to go into the bag of waters to determine who we are going to follow in the flesh (current testiment), and the time when this testiment is over with and earth is rejuvenated back to what it once was....a tropical paradise.

Tumbleweed
18th July 2013, 07:18 AM
Jews yes, muslims no. Muslims considers him a prophet.

Yes they consider him a prophet and deny he's the Christ.

Tumbleweed
18th July 2013, 07:41 AM
Oh. I thought you were Catholic.

:)

I'm catholic but I'm not sure if the pope is. The catholic church has been infiltrated by Jews and Masons to destroy it. Read "The Plot against the Church" by Maurice Pinay. The pope should be pointing out the errors of the Jew and Muslim ways. When he doesn't I don't believe he's doing the will of Jesus Christ. Many souls may be lost because of it and I believe he will have to answer for that.

Santa
18th July 2013, 08:05 AM
http://quraan-today.blogspot.com/2010/09/did-prophet-muhammad-marry-6-year-old.html


Rev. Jerry Vines while speaking to the Pastors’ Conference of the Southern Baptist Convention, St. Louis, Missouri on June 10, 2002, called the Prophet of Islam, Muhammad (PbuH) a pedophile and demon-possessed. The Muslims all over the world were deeply offended by his remarks, as were many people of other faiths. While certainly both of these allegations about the person of the Prophet of Islam can be effectively rebutted, the author of this article proposes to present the Qur’anic concept of marriageable age as well as an in-depth analysis of the issue of Ayesha’s age at the time of her marriage with the Messenger of Allah (PbuH). This critique is based on many historical reports as documented in the history books of Islam.


According to the link above, there is exactly one account recorded in a book of records called the Hadith by one old Iraqi man that says Mohammed married a 6 to 9 year old girl, while there are many accounts recorded in the same book that put her age somewhere between 15 and 20 at the time of marriage.

I don't know anything about Mohammed myself. Never gave it much thought. But I do know that the "Judeo"-Christian Institutional Establishment (Church Body) in America has been deeply infiltrated, subverted, saturated and infected with a disease known as zionism.

The zionist disease within the Institutional Church Body(both Protestant AND Catholic) is what's killing it. Just as it's killing the Institutional Established Government Body.

There's also strong historical evidence that zionism has infiltrated and corrupted Islam, I think mostly through the Donmeh and Wahhabi sects.

In a nut shell, my current opinion is that zionism is the primary methodology for global domination.

Jewboo
18th July 2013, 12:44 PM
"Aliens" are fallen angels whose seed is horribly tainted with sin, and they are not given the ability to procreate. They use human women to make a hybrid.



http://images.moviepostershop.com/amanda-and-the-alien-movie-poster-1995-1020210850.jpg








http://images.zaazu.com/img/thinking-idea-animated-animation-smiley-emoticon-000339-medium.gif JEW HOLLYWOOD MAKES A LOT OF ALIEN MOVIES AND THEY SEEM TO WORK ON MENTALLY ILL GOYIM

PatColo
5th August 2013, 08:08 PM
DDuke's radio show today, 47 mins comm free:


David Duke Show 2013.08.05 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/08/david-duke-show-20130805.html)



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mfb9DtzO084/UgBN3QhAArI/AAAAAAAADZU/CRgM0ifhNts/s200/dukeDF.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mfb9DtzO084/UgBN3QhAArI/AAAAAAAADZU/CRgM0ifhNts/s1600/dukeDF.jpg)
Today: Dr. David Duke and Rev. Mark Dankof talk about the recent appearance on Press-TV in which Rev. Dankof eloquently shows the warmongering nature of the Zionists. Also discussed is the vital subject of "Christian Zionism" which is, by its very nature anti-Christian. The discussion goes deep into the mass murders of the Jewish extremists in Russia and Eastern Europe and how the Christian Zionists actually directly cause harm to millions of Christians throughout the world. An important show, especially to Christians around the world as well as all people of peace and goodwill.

David's site (http://www.davidduke.com/)

56k CF Download MP3 (http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/5aqnqym4io/duke.20130805.mp3)


Posted by zapoper (http://www.blogger.com/profile/15726967138606494466) at 2:58 PM 1 comment: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=8552872424289638346)


Dankof gave this excellent speech to a scary-moozlem student org in TX a few months ago. He spent the first half of part one overviewing his own paleo-con repub credentials, but after that it gets more inspired, as he tells the story of his waking up to djooz problem.

Paster And Patriot Mark Dankof At The Scary Islamic Students Union Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8jGdnttLng)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8jGdnttLng

Paster And Patriot Mark Dankof At The Islamic Students Union Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beoX1Lp0T6I)


Paster And Patriot Mark Dankof At The Islamic Students Union Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt8LHd8JWe8)

PatColo
5th August 2013, 08:24 PM
^ Dankof's PressTV appearance, video inside:


http://theuglytruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/mark-dankof-press-tv-adl4.jpg?w=620&h=344 (http://presstv.com/detail/2013/08/04/317121/only-war-satisfies-israel-lobby-in-us/)


Only war satisfies Israel lobby in US: Mark Dankof (http://presstv.com/detail/2013/08/04/317121/only-war-satisfies-israel-lobby-in-us/)



Sun Aug 4, 2013 6:18AM

Interview with Mark Dankof


The bad news is that nothing short of war is going to satisfy the Israeli lobby in the United States. All we have to do is look at the statements that Eric Cantor, the House Republican majority leader, who basically indicated that nothing short of regime change would be satisfactory. He said that the United States should have no more negotiations with the current president of Iran than with its predecessor.”




Press TV has conducted an interview with Mark Dankof, a broadcaster and commentator from San Antonio, about the Israeli regime and the US foreign policy, particularly regarding the Islamic Republic of Iran.



The following is an approximate transcript of the interview.

Press TV: What does [Iran’s election process] say about Iran itself?

Dankof: Clearly the election was legitimate. Clearly it was broad based in terms of participation. That’s all excellent.

The bad news is that nothing short of war is going to satisfy the Israeli lobby in the United States. All we have to do is look at the statements that Eric Cantor, the House Republican majority leader, who basically indicated that nothing short of regime change would be satisfactory. He said that the United States should have no more negotiations with the current president of Iran than with its predecessor.


The second thing that we need to look at is an indication of what’s happening here, is that Malcolm Hoenlein, the executive vice president of the Council of Major Jewish American Organizations, recently appeared at John Hagee’s bash for the Christian’s United for Israel Organization. Mr. Hagee of course is globally known as the most rabidly Christian Zionist going. He’s based here in San Antonio. Mr. Hoenlein said one of two things: one, American-Christian Zionist support for Israel against Iran and a war with Iran is “Israel’s nuclear weapon”. The other thing that was said by Mr. Hoenlein is that, “the Jewish lobby is a myth. We intend to make it a legend.”
When you look at that in tandem with what Eric Cantor has said, and now this letter coming from Menendez and Lindsey Graham with the support of these other 74 US senators, it’s quite obvious that we are headed toward a war and there is absolutely nothing that Iran can do in terms of good-faith negotiation, in the way of any kind of future election to satisfy the lust for war that Mr. Netanyahu clearly has, has publicly stated it and that the Israeli lobby continues to push for here in the United States.

Press TV: What you said basically was that the United States is being pulled by this string of the Israelis, especially when we’re talking about the situation when dealing with Iran. Wouldn’t it be better, let’s look at it from the American perspective - would it not be better for the Americans, for American businesses, for relations, actually, to try to make it improve between Tehran and Washington? -And yet time and time again we see an opposite reaction even though now there is a new president who sort of opened the doors saying he’s looking for moderate policies, but prior to taking office we see something totally opposite?

Dankof: I think it’s clearly in the interests of the United States to avoid a war with Iran, for the United States not to be dragged into this terrible situation by Netanyahu, and for someone to get the Israeli lobby under heal in this country.

As we turn to Barack Obama, I think it’s important that we understand that he’s just as much a tool for the Israeli lobby as George Bush was. There’s more Jewish money going into the Democratic Party than in the Republican Party in this country.

If you look at what the Israeli media was publishing when President Obama visited Israeli the last time, Obama made it very clear that he owed his election to the United States Senate in Illinois, and his subsequent election as President in the United States to the overwhelming support of the Israeli lobby and Jewish Americans.


The fact of the matter is that Barack Obama has supported the United States and Israel using the Mujahedin-e Khalq to assassinate Iranian nuclear scientists in Tehran. Barack Obama has gone along with all of these sanctions that has occurred to this point in all of these economic sectors in the Iranian economy. Barack Obama has time and time again reaffirmed that Israel is America’s ally in the Middle East, and that the military option against Iran remain on the table.
I think it’s a little suspect to juxtapose the American President, Barack Obama, on the one hand with people like Menendez, Lindsey Graham and Eric Cantor on the other. Mr. Obama is obviously being far more careful in public.

But, it seems to me that when we look at the totality at what’s going on here, that we are headed, just as Franklin Delano Roosevelt was headed deliberately for war with Japan from October of 1940 onward - it would not be deterred from it no matter how many concessions the Japanese made and President Herbert Hoover is the source for that, by the way - we’re seeing the same thing unfolding now. This war is not in anyone’s interests and that’s just where it is.

Press TV: What about that, Mr. Dankof, does it have to do anything with the form of government or what, from the perspective of the United States with various countries? For example, it’s relationship with the Islamic Republic of Iran?

Dankof: I think a couple of things will suffice to be mentioned here, one is that, yes, Iran did cooperate with the United States after 9/11 only to later be lumped by then-President Bush as a part of the axis of evil.

Couple of other things that come into play here, regardless of what Mr. Obama says, all we have to do is see what he’s currently doing in Syria. The United States, the Obama administration is working in tandem with Israel, with Saudi Arabia, the Gulf Cooperation [PGCC] states and Turkey to overthrow a regime in Syria because that needs to happen as a prelude to an attack, a military attack on the Islamic Republic of Iran. Mr. Obama is fully in support of this sinister policy as a majority is in both Houses of the American Congress.

Then when we look at this whole business of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, my question is, since the Israeli lobby is this hung up on what Iran is or isn’t doing with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, why don’t we get Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which they have not signed, and turn over their known nuclear weapons capability, biological weapons capability and chemical weapons capability over to the same set of international sanctions, regiments and inspections that Israel through the United States is demanding that Iran be subjected to?

The fact of the matter is that whether you’re looking at American or European support for these sanctions against Iran, Israel and the Jewish lobby are behind it all. They are the driving force behind what’s happened up to this point.

Press TV: You were smiling at [the previous guest speaker, Mr. Lawrence Korb’s] comments in dealing with Congress. Your take, I only have about a minute left, Mr. Dankof.

Dankof: I will simply remind people of who has a disproportionate control, moneywise and power-wise, of both the American presidential elections and American senatorial and congressional elections. It’s clearly the Israeli lobby. They clearly want the United States to be involved in a war with Iran.

Just to underscore a point where I differ with Lawrence, Article One, Section Eight of the United States Constitution makes it very clear that it is the Congress of the United States, not the president of the United States, that determines whether we go to war with someone, when we go to war with them, and with whom we go to war.

The fact of the matter is that in this very important situation that we now confront in terms of Israel and the Israeli lobby in the United States. They’re going to get a war with Iran come “H” or high water.

GMA/HSN

Silver Rocket Bitches!
5th August 2013, 08:27 PM
All this cuz we don't know where we come from and look to a bunch of books for the answer. What kind of world would this be if everyone were agnostic?

Spectrism
5th August 2013, 08:52 PM
All this cuz we don't know where we come from and look to a bunch of books for the answer. What kind of world would this be if everyone were agnostic?

Look at tribal Africa. There is your answer.