View Full Version : Poll - Impossible or Possible to start new business
Horn
18th July 2013, 06:38 PM
In today's climate, between taxes, insurance, and bureaucracy in whatever field, and even with an innovative product.
A legally operating entity reporting with full disclosure.
osoab
18th July 2013, 06:41 PM
underground and in cash. work your way into legitimacy.
Horn
18th July 2013, 06:51 PM
underground and in cash. work your way into legitimacy.
You are curving my poll, you osoab,
Banking and accountants require you to be legitimate!
Nomoss
18th July 2013, 06:57 PM
I would like to think it is... BUT!
You end up working for THEM.
General of Darkness
18th July 2013, 07:03 PM
Describe the business.
Horn
18th July 2013, 07:06 PM
I would like to think it is... BUT!
You end up working for THEM.
You need a small business loan?
Horn
18th July 2013, 07:10 PM
Describe the business.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLEpZm957jk
Ponce
18th July 2013, 07:28 PM
Eleven years ago it was possible.......but not now......not because of the paper work but rather because they are keeping a close eye on which way every dollar is going.......I could put two of my ideas out right now......but.......what for?, I would be making more money for the government than for myself.
V
General of Darkness
18th July 2013, 07:35 PM
Eleven years ago it was possible.......but not now......not because of the paper work but rather because they are keeping a close eye on which way every dollar is going.......I could put two of my ideas out right now......but.......what for?, I would be making more money for the government than for myself.
V
Well I'm pretty sure if I opened a hotdog stand in downtown L.A. that I'd do really well.
Horn
18th July 2013, 10:29 PM
Eleven years ago it was possible.......but not now....rather because they are keeping a close eye on which way every dollar is going.......
Bingo!
Every saved dollar is scrutinized for its origins and its goings to, any money added will only be allowed in form of new loans from the bank.
We are caste, Try it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VbPFzkLlm8
Neuro
19th July 2013, 02:41 AM
underground and in cash. work your way into legitimacy.
I wholeheartedly agree! Otherwise you need a significant amount (depending on business) of cash that you are willing to lose if it doesn't work out. Of course starting the business like this would automatically rule out government sector as customer, but really that is a huge plus in terms of your long term mental health and integrity...
Neuro
19th July 2013, 02:45 AM
Well I'm pretty sure if I opened a hotdog stand in downtown L.A. that I'd do really well.
Forge a permit from Municipality or whatever authorities you need, to shove the pigs, and you would do even better!
Shami-Amourae
19th July 2013, 03:43 AM
My business is extremely obscure and all Internet based so it's nearly impossible to regulate. If you want to start a business today do it that way and do it entirely on the Internet. Be creative, find a niche, and fill it. Try to do something where you don't have to send any physical products or anything, but only the virtual - this isn't mandatory, but if you can do this it makes everything a lot easier. Also be self taught in what you do. Don't go to "school" to "learn" how to do things.
You can teach yourself almost anything just watching tutorials off of YouTube. I know, I have. Ask questions, and if you can't figure out something pay someone who knows to teach you, and/or make examples for you. These examples are all how I learned everything I know for my business - I learned none of this stuff in "school".
My business is currently doing better as the economy gets worse. Setup a business that will do well in a shitty economy. Keep in mind there's a lot of people at home wasting their time on stupid shit. That's literally the future since everything is or will be automated.
My best advice is to not hire ANYONE. Do everything yourself. If you MUST have more than one person do it under the table in an anonymous form of money (cash, Bitcoins, misc. virtual currencies, and so on...) If you run a business online by yourself you're already ahead. If it's making shark skin gun holsters, knitting organic hemp jeans, or so on find a niche. Learn to do it all yourself and you should do fine. I wake, sleep, and work whenever I want.
Self employment is one of the greatest things if you do it right, with something you love. Just only do self employment. Don't start a company and start hiring people since then the government will start coming after you.
gunDriller
19th July 2013, 10:40 AM
Well I'm pretty sure if I opened a hotdog stand in downtown L.A. that I'd do really well.
last time i went to downtown LA via the train station, some normal looking guy walked up to me and said, "i'm going to kill somebody today." he didn't say it in a threatening manner, it seemed to be a reflection on his state of mind.
so - wear body armor !
General of Darkness
19th July 2013, 10:50 AM
last time i went to downtown LA via the train station, some normal looking guy walked up to me and said, "i'm going to kill somebody today." he didn't say it in a threatening manner, it seemed to be a reflection on his state of mind.
so - wear body armor !
Dude that was me.
Spectrism
19th July 2013, 10:57 AM
They will clamp down on any transfers of FRNs. They will digitize all the fake money so you won't be able to avoid the banking checkpoints. Unless you take the mark of the beast, you will have to operate completely outside of their money.
Business? Nope. That is a term from their money system. Instead, you may need to operate a mission, gathering, help center, or even better.... stop existing in any form that they recognize.
iOWNme
19th July 2013, 11:16 AM
The entire premise of this question is that the 'Government' will decide if YOU can provide for yourself and others. This is a false premise. You wouldnt ask the question "Is it possible or impossible to get Married?"
Marriage existed BEFORE the 'Government' was imagined into existence, just like peoples Right to provide for themselves and others existed BEFORE the 'Government' was imagined into existence.
ESCAPE THE MYTH.
Spectrism
19th July 2013, 11:35 AM
The entire premise of this question is that the 'Government' will decide if YOU can provide for yourself and others. This is a false premise. You wouldnt ask the question "Is it possible or impossible to get Married?"
Marriage existed BEFORE the 'Government' was imagined into existence, just like peoples Right to provide for themselves and others existed BEFORE the 'Government' was imagined into existence.
ESCAPE THE MYTH.
The myth they have fostered takes with it enforcers who will put you into prison. If you use their money, their terms and their systems, then they will require your feasance.
Horn
19th July 2013, 01:08 PM
My best advice is to not hire ANYONE. Do everything yourself.
I agree, but for the purposes of this poll I will also stipulate the inclusion of others such as vendors or subcontractors into a company operation.
It may well be the only business possible is a virtual and not real one.
Horn
19th July 2013, 01:16 PM
The entire premise of this question is that the 'Government' will decide if YOU can provide for yourself and others. This is a false premise. You wouldnt ask the question "Is it possible or impossible to get Married?"
Marriage existed BEFORE the 'Government' was imagined into existence, just like peoples Right to provide for themselves and others existed BEFORE the 'Government' was imagined into existence.
ESCAPE THE MYTH.
Its really good point to put across to folks in passing, or when in even casual conversation. They then realize the length of their own and future of their children's freedom for success.
The U.S. is being pressed into these old caste systems just like much of Europe and India.
gunDriller
19th July 2013, 02:31 PM
Dude that was me.
thanks for not killing me ! :)
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