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Cebu_4_2
21st July 2013, 01:37 PM
McCain Defends Obama, Questions Stand Your Ground Laws July 21 2013


http://gunssavelives.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/800px-John_McCain_in_Seattle.jpg


Can we just go ahead and change that R after McCain’s name to a D?
Last week, both the president and the attorney general called into question, stand your ground self defense laws.
The comments on the law followed the verdict in the Zimmerman murder trial.
According to TheHill.com (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/312431-mccain-obamas-stand-your-ground-remarks-not-about-gun-control),

The president said it would be “useful for us to examine” state and local laws that might “encourage the kinds of altercations and confrontations and tragedies” like the clash between Zimmerman and Martin.


The president’s comments were quickly criticized by Texas Senator Ted Cruz,

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) made the suggestion Friday in Iowa after speaking to a Republican group, saying that Obama “uses … every opportunity that he can to go after our Second Amendment right.”
However, John McCain, who has recently come under fire for supporting numerous Democratic policies, jumped in to criticize his fellow Republican and defend the president’s comments. McCain made the following comments on CNN’s “State of the Union”.

“I don’t draw that conclusion [in reference to Cruz's remarks]. Isn’t it time for America to come together? I’d rather have a message of coming together … I respect his view but I don’t, frankly, see the connection.”
Stand your ground is the common name for self defense laws that do not require the victim of a crime to attempt to retreat before resorting to deadly force.
Over 30 states have “stand your ground” laws, “castle doctrines”, or rely on case law supporting no duty to retreat when looking into self defense cases.
Proponents say the laws protect victims of crime from becoming criminals themselves while opponents argue the laws make people more likely to get into physical altercations and resort to force more quickly.


The move to analyze the law comes less than a week following the not-guilty verdict in the George Zimmerman murder trial. Zimmerman was accused of second degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman claimed self defense in the shooting. It should be noted that Zimmerman claimed a “classic self defense” defense, and not a defense under Florida’s stand your ground law. However, some have argued that the law’s existence is one of the reasons Zimmerman confronted Martin. The jury was instructed to use the stand your ground law in the jury instructions.

gunDriller
21st July 2013, 03:58 PM
100% Hypocrisy.

if someone were to attack McCain, he would do what Zimmerman did.

but he doesn't extend that right to the general US population - in what is left of his mind.

General of Darkness
21st July 2013, 04:11 PM
Why is that mother fucker not in jail and his fathers grave not being pissed on in a daily ritual?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/USS_Forrestal_explosion_29_July_1967.jpg

Down1
21st July 2013, 05:21 PM
Well this moron has done it now.
He has actually made Michele Bachmann appear sane.

This looney wants the U.S. to go to war with any country that looks sideways at America, but doesn't want the people in the U.S. to be able to defend themselves.

Cebu_4_2
21st July 2013, 05:37 PM
Why is that mother fucker not in jail and his fathers grave not being pissed on in a daily ritual?


Synopsis please?

Santa
21st July 2013, 06:12 PM
McCain is a total Zio douche. Always has been and always will be. Probably spent his entire time as "POW" hiding in a Saigon hotel room screwing little Asian boys.

General of Darkness
21st July 2013, 06:39 PM
Synopsis please?

McCain was the CAUSE of the USS Forestal Fire. His retardation killed 144 men.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIWeq2DL_N4

His father was involved with the USS Liberty coverup. Look it up, I'd do it but I need to work the dogs right now.

Jewboo
21st July 2013, 06:49 PM
http://crushzion.k0nsl.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/mccain-lieberman-israel-jew-zionist.jpg

http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/02012008/1497688/DCCD105_wa.jpg




I wonder if McCain is also questioning Israelis regarding their Stand Your Ground policies...

Neuro
21st July 2013, 07:05 PM
I'd hoped he would be dead by now!

Cebu_4_2
21st July 2013, 09:32 PM
McCain was the CAUSE of the USS Forestal Fire. His retardation killed 144 men.
His father was involved with the USS Liberty coverup. Look it up, I'd do it but I need to work the dogs right now.

What is a wet start in relation to the jet firing off a bomb backwards? Sorry man I'm really missing something here and want to understand...lol

General of Darkness
21st July 2013, 09:47 PM
What is a wet start in relation to the jet firing off a bomb backwards? Sorry man I'm really missing something here and want to understand...lol

Back on the ignore list for you.

Hypertiger
21st July 2013, 10:53 PM
The economy in Florida began collapsing in 2005.

Travon is the waste by product of the wannbe rich and famous. His death is an effect tied to the economy.

The stand your ground rule is just being used as a distraction and give the mobs in the streets something to keep them busy.

A victory to attempt to obtain.

They are all poor and dumb because that is how the smart rich people that live off them have socially engineered them to be.

gunDriller
21st July 2013, 11:09 PM
I'd hoped he would be dead by now!

he's pretty zombified.

not much human being left.

normally i'd give a guy credit for working with the physical disabilities he has, with his arms etc.

but he's so soul-less. yet he portends/ pretends to be a leader. like a male Nancy Pelosi.

Glass
21st July 2013, 11:19 PM
some on the internet suggest that McCain was actually in the plane that got hit not the one that fired the rocket.

http://cosmoquest.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-72857.html

Don't know what's true. It's the internet after all.

Hypertiger
21st July 2013, 11:47 PM
Let's say I tell you something I believe to be true but its false but believe it to be true and you accept it and then make a choice based on that falsehood and you are blinded for life.

Let's say I tell you something I know is false but you believe it to be true and accept it and then make a choice based on that falsehood and you are blinded for life.

Is one good and one evil even though the logical conclusion is the same?

Glass
22nd July 2013, 12:23 AM
Let's say I tell you something I believe to be true but its false but believe it to be true and you accept it and then make a choice based on that falsehood and you are blinded for life.

Let's say I tell you something I know is false but you believe it to be true and accept it and then make a choice based on that falsehood and you are blinded for life.

Is one good and one evil even though the logical conclusion is the same?

Accordrng to the words self appointed historical narrators, I'd say nope, no difference between them. All that matters is that I believe, nothing more. When I am in hospital and they are injecting me with the wrong stuff, either deliberately by their own volition or deliberately because as per the above they are mis-educated to cause death instead of healing. It doesn't matter so long as I die believing something other than the truth then there is no foul.

If an idiot truly believes something is not harming him when it is, then there is no harm done. Because he believes it. That is all that matters. Truth has no bearing on any thing.

now you know that I know.

Cebu_4_2
22nd July 2013, 12:23 AM
Back on the ignore list for you.

Blow me douche.

Hypertiger
22nd July 2013, 12:50 AM
Truth tells me that you worship ignorance as the path to salvation.

Or ignorance = bliss.

Or negative = positive.

Ignorance of truth is the root of all evil.

The best way to avoid being caught breaking a rule is to avoid breaking a rule.

Your way which to avoid being caught breaking rules is the second best way employed by people known as criminals.

Of course after they get caught.

Prior to that they are innocent until proven guilty.

Hypertiger
22nd July 2013, 12:56 AM
Also there is no such thing as "the" Truth.

There is only Truth.

Of course if you did know truth you would have known this and also you would have pointed out any lies I was attempting to tell you.