Beijing Subway Can Get A Wee Crowded In The Mornings

[Serpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG-meaGqg-M#at=122http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG-meaGqg-M#at=122



http://beijingcream.com/2013/07/beijing-subway-can-get-a-wee-crowded-in-the-mornings/

[ximmy]

with everything they build why can't they just put more trains on the track?

[Ponce]

with everything they build why can't they just put more trains on the track?

More of them fater are born than trains that they can build......they will never cach up with the population.

V

[ximmy]

More of them fater are born than trains that they can build......they will never cach up with the population.

V

funny... but
I thought there was a two child maximum?

[Ponce]

Even then.........you can put 100 Chinese side to side all in a row and mach them infront of you at a fast pace and there would never, and I mean never, be an end of marching Chinese..........on Chinese holiday many of them don't see their families out in the country for years, not for lack of money but for lack of trains.

V

[ximmy]

Even then.........you can put 100 Chinese side to side all in a row and mach them infront of you at a fast pace and there would never, and I mean never, be an end of marching Chinese..........on Chinese holiday many of them don't see their families out in the country for years, not for lack of money but for lack of trains.

V

dayum!

maybe if they stopped fake rolex watch production and focused on trains instead... :p

[Serpo]

with everything they build why can't they just put more trains on the track?

maybe they did and now its a shortage of tracks...............................

[Glass]

thing I noticed in some other countries were that the trains were double deckers.... trying to think where I saw that. Maybe France or Switzerland. Just like the Double decker buses in London and Hong Kong. They have DD Trams in HK as well.

[Shami-Amourae]

I don't think its because of a growing population, but of a larger amount of rural poor people moving into the middle class and into the cities.

[Hypertiger]

when they first built the infrastructure their minds were blown at the scale.

Infrastructure is the supply and the people that use it are the demand.

Demand increases faster than supply eventually.

[MNeagle]

Probably can't offer double-deckers unless they retrofit any tunnels... Add more cars!

[Glass]

I was surprised that the double decker trains were not all that much taller. The first floor was actually a bit below the level of the platform so you stepped onto the train at the end and either went down a few stairs or up a couple of stairs. So for overland trains it probably would not take much other than to lift the overhead cables... tunnels well another problem but maybe not as big as it looks.

I actually think it was Sydney where I saw these trains.....

All suburban passenger trains in Sydney are double-deck electric multiple units (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Multiple_Unit). Upon electrification in the 1920s Sydney operated single-deck multiple units but these were progressively withdrawn from the 1960s until their final demise in 1993. Single-deck cars may be reintroduced if the proposed 'metro' lines are constructed.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Cityrail-millennium-M32-ext.jpg/320px-Cityrail-millennium-M32-ext.jpg

but more trains more often, like the masstransit of HK or Singapore. Those are the systems people can/should emulate

I got the chance to drive one of the HK trains just before the system went live. Got a "special" private tour of the network. The whole thing is automatic but they put a driver in for passenger comfort and override safety. Not sure if they still put drivers on them. All the driver had to do was hit the green button to start the train from each station and that was it. The journey and the stopping were all computer controlled. The trian has to hit its marks on the platform where the peoples are lining up.

They said that the driver could do an over ride if they were bored and wanted to actually drive the train. I'd suggest that was 100% PR BS but sounded cool and yes you could still drive them. Maybe it was for when people got stuck in the doors. I found that the computer was still there in the back ground making sure the train was running to shedule. With < 3 mins between trains they need to keep them moving. That must have been about 30 years ago now I guess.

[Serpo]

Been on those trains when we visited Sydney some time ago,




still Indian is one step ahead,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lYvxMG9q7wc/S86ijvns6vI/AAAAAAAABc0/L1RTg-HT54c/s1600/IndianTrain2.jpghttp://static.adayinlife.timesofindia.com/media/photos/2011/Jan/can-we-topple-this-train.jpg








http://ntakeda31.edublogs.org/files/2010/07/india-train.jpghttp://worldsupertravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/overloaded_train_on_bridge_india_delhi.jpg

[Glass]

I definately think it would be better on the outside........

[Serpo]

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/23/world/asia/japan-train-rescue/index.html?hpt=wo_t2 (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/23/world/asia/japan-train-rescue/index.html?hpt=wo)http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130722204622-exp-erin-japanese-commuters-free-woman-moving-32-ton-train-00002406-story-top.jpg




Commuters push train to free woman
STORY HIGHLIGHTS


A woman fell in a gap between a commuter train and platform near Tokyo
40 passengers and staff members push a 30,000-kilogram train car to free her
The woman was not seriously injured




Tokyo (CNN) -- Even during Tokyo's notoriously hectic rush hour, dozens of commuters stopped to push a 32-ton train car out of the way.
A woman trying to get off a train in Saitama, north of Tokyo, fell in a gap between the train and the platform Monday morning, said Takashi Tsukahara, a spokesman for the train operator JR East.
About 40 passengers and JR staff rushed to push the train off the woman. Tsukahara said a train carriage typically weighs about 30,000 kilograms, but is able to sway a bit side to side to absorb the train's movements.
The commuters pushed the train just enough to free the woman. A loud cheer erupted as the woman was pulled up.
The woman, in her 30s, was not seriously injured.
Just eight minutes later, the train took off again.

[Glass]

I saw that. I wonder if the train driver got shot. 8 minutes late with the train in Japan? I think thats a terminal offence. Still good to see everyone just mucked in and rocked that baby.