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Cebu_4_2
29th July 2013, 05:45 AM
New Bill Allows Transgenders To Change Sex On Birth Certificate








Kristin Tate (http://www.mrconservative.com/author/kristintate/) June 21, 2013 9:30pm PST




I’m not sure whether I am disgusted by this story, or just confused.


The District of Columbia Committee on the Judiciary and Public Safety approved a bill that would allow males and females to legally change the sex listed on their birth certificates, so long as they have a letter signed by a health professional indicating that they have “undergone a gender transition.”

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The current law requires people who seek to change the sex on their birth certificate to provide documentation that they have undergone a surgical sex change, and then to publish a public notice of the impending change. But this new bill, called the JaParker Deoni Jones Birth Certificate Equality Amendment Act of 2013, would amend the existing law.


So far, the bill has cleared the committee and will be voted on by the entire council during the next session.






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The bill is named after Jones, a transgender male who was stabbed to death in 2012 while waiting for a bus. Gary Montgomery, a homeless man, was charged with first-degree murder in the case and is currently awaiting trial.


If the bill passes, it would require the DC Registrar to “issue a new birth certificate that reflects the new gender designation of an individual born in the District of Columbia.”


It would require from a parent or legal representative “a statement, signed under penalty of law, by a health-care provider licensed in the District of Columbia who has treated or evaluated the individual stating that the individual has undergone surgical, hormonal, or other medically appropriate treatment for a gender transition.”


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Instead of “amending” birth certificates, a new birth certificate would be issued and the original birth certificate “sealed.”


The bill says, “The original certificate of birth, along with other documents submitted pursuant to this subsection, shall be sealed and made available only upon the demand of the individual to whom the new certificate of birth was issued or an order of the court.”


Charles Allen, chief of staff for council member Tommy Wells,says he does not think the bill would let people to get a new birth certificate as a way to evade detection from law enforcement. “According to testimony, the Office of the Attorney General and the Metropolitan Police Department reviewed the bill and expressed no such concern,” Allen said.


Well, Mr. Allen, maybe they should be concerned. This new bill could potentially allow criminals to escape punishment by receiving a new birth certificate.
Also, the actual benefits that may be reaped from the bill are questionable, since the estimated number of transgenders in DC represents less than 0.1 percent of the 632,323 population.


What are your thoughts on this new bill? Let us know in the comments section below.

vacuum
29th July 2013, 10:32 AM
How can what happens in the present change what happened in the past? I don't even know where to begin to try to explain all the things wrong with this.

Cebu_4_2
29th July 2013, 10:44 AM
How can what happens in the present change what happened in the past? I don't even know where to begin to try to explain all the things wrong with this.

Might be the wave of the future to allow immigration of trannies from other areas into the USi since we set the precedent. New meaning to "male order bride" lol. :o

madfranks
29th July 2013, 12:23 PM
So if you are a man (genetically, you have one X and one Y chromosome), and you decide to self-mutilate and self-medicate to make your male body look female, you now get a certificate certifying that you were born a girl? I don't follow the logic, but maybe that's my mistake, trying to find any logic in this twisted and rotten system.

Cebu_4_2
29th July 2013, 12:27 PM
So if you are a man (genetically, you have one X and one Y chromosome), and you decide to self-mutilate and self-medicate to make your male body look female, you now get a certificate certifying that you were born a girl? I don't follow the logic, but maybe that's my mistake, trying to find any logic in this twisted and rotten system.

I don't think it would mean 'born a female' as much as just listing them as female. So I guess chicks with dicks still wouldn't be able to have their BC changed... Mamboni?

Roland
29th July 2013, 01:24 PM
Here's the kicker....you can't change your sex! It is physically impossible, when you make a "law" to say a man is a woman or a woman is a man you are asking people to take a fallacy as fact by threat of violence.

If you refuse to recognize one of these people as a "girl" or a "boy" they can sue you. You could even be charged with discrimination for not letting one into the ladies rest room. This is completely unjust. People want to dress like a girl or a boy fine. Making a law which doesn't even hold up to the law of nature is just lame

Cebu_4_2
31st July 2013, 09:46 PM
Here's the kicker....you can't change your sex! It is physically impossible, when you make a "law" to say a man is a woman or a woman is a man you are asking people to take a fallacy as fact by threat of violence.

If you refuse to recognize one of these people as a "girl" or a "boy" they can sue you. You could even be charged with discrimination for not letting one into the ladies rest room. This is completely unjust. People want to dress like a girl or a boy fine.

Umm... Transgendered means they chop the dick off and turn the rest inside out like a real vagina. They also take female hormones to make them less manly.

Twisted Titan
1st August 2013, 04:31 AM
Umm... Transgendered means they chop the dick off and turn the rest inside out like a real vagina. They also take female hormones to make them less manly.

Thats the defination of transgender now.

What till somebody who.just takes a few hormone pills feels like they are entitled to the same distinction.

It just the very begining on a mentally twisted slope

gunDriller
1st August 2013, 06:16 AM
Umm... Transgendered means they chop the dick off and turn the rest inside out like a real vagina. They also take female hormones to make them less manly.

that works - until they take a DNA test.

Son-of-Liberty
1st August 2013, 07:31 AM
Making a law which doesn't even hold up to the law of nature is just lame

Aren't all new laws in conflict with the law of nature?

madfranks
1st August 2013, 01:05 PM
Umm... Transgendered means they chop the dick off and turn the rest inside out like a real vagina. They also take female hormones to make them less manly.

AKA body mutilation and hormone therapy. Genetically, he is still a man, no matter how much surgery he has. He is not and never will be female, it's impossible.

Cebu_4_2
1st August 2013, 01:21 PM
AKA body mutilation and hormone therapy. Genetically, he is still a man, no matter how much surgery he has. He is not and never will be female, it's impossible.

They don't bleed or get wet but everything else is pretty much perfected. Specialty hospitals in Azia charge big amounts and foreigners foot the bill. I stumbled on all this information before I begun my own search and wanted to know all the tricks and scams before I even started looking for a real woman.

govcheetos
2nd August 2013, 06:55 PM
How about changing the berth date on a berth certificate?

Cebu_4_2
2nd August 2013, 07:09 PM
How about changing the berth date on a berth certificate?

Stipulations for legal immigration are quite stringent and the fees involved are not for the commoner.

You just cant fake it that easy. Immigration (USi) requires a BC and information from the originating hospital. If born at home or in any other way not streamlined it's just a delay to bring your family home. IE: to the (USi)

vacuum
2nd August 2013, 07:24 PM
Stipulations for legal immigration are quite stringent and the fees involved are not for the commoner.

You just cant fake it that easy. Immigration (USi) requires a BC and information from the originating hospital. If born at home or in any other way not streamlined it's just a delay to bring your family home. IE: to the (USi)

But what if you're a Leo but you were born a Capricorn? It should be illegal to repress someone's true birth date.

govcheetos
2nd August 2013, 07:26 PM
And what if I take offense to having been berthed, why not born?

Roland
2nd August 2013, 07:50 PM
They don't bleed or get wet but everything else is pretty much perfected. Specialty hospitals in Azia charge big amounts and foreigners foot the bill. I stumbled on all this information before I begun my own search and wanted to know all the tricks and scams before I even started looking for a real woman.

That there is a nice disclaimer at the end there! :)....
just kidding.... but really how is that working out for you? The search for a real woman I mean. Try the Russian girls the whole transgender thing isn't quite the cultural phenomena there as in the orient- I read that in people magazine ;)

@ son of liberty

yeah they make new "laws" all the time that don't hold up to reality, hence the massive dumbing down of the public all the easier to dictate to the masses as to what their reality must be. For the uninformed the most asinine opinions presented with the proper authority take hold as fact without a moment of contemplation let alone five minutes of due diligence.

Cebu_4_2
2nd August 2013, 08:10 PM
For the uninformed the most asinine opinions presented with the proper authority take hold as fact without a moment of contemplation let alone five minutes of due diligence.

Due diligence is underkill if you want anything from Azia, snooze and you could possible have a wife that can't be imported from the backup information. Which there is hardly a way to import a chick with a dick or anyone messing with any records even if true and honest, makes no difference. There are physical invasive procedures at the hospital you have to get clearance of before anything else.

Russia, I have no clue. I just don't like big titted chix with more body hair than me.

ShortJohnSilver
3rd August 2013, 10:00 AM
Due diligence is underkill if you want anything from Azia, snooze and you could possible have a wife that can't be imported from the backup information. Which there is hardly a way to import a chick with a dick or anyone messing with any records even if true and honest, makes no difference. There are physical invasive procedures at the hospital you have to get clearance of before anything else.

Russia, I have no clue. I just don't like big titted chix with more body hair than me.

Um, no offense but you don't have a clue what most Russian women are like.

Hitch
3rd August 2013, 11:08 AM
I hope this bill passes. Then we can all petition to make changes to our birth certificates. I'd like to change my location of birth, to have dual citizenship. I sort of feel Icelandic at the moment. Deep down I think I've got an inner Icelandic Viking that needs to be set free. If I can't put that on my birth certificate, it's discrimination!

Maybe Doc Mamboni will step up to the plate and help us out. Doc, I just need a formal statement.

"As Hitcher's professional healthcare provider, it is my opinion that Hitcher has successfully completed his transformation to becoming a Viking. Please change his birth certificate to reflect Reykevic, Iceland."

Cebu_4_2
3rd August 2013, 11:59 AM
Um, no offense but you don't have a clue what most Russian women are like.

As in the OP I stated so. So why the hijak asshat?
Just askin.

gunDriller
3rd August 2013, 03:10 PM
Maybe they should identify Genetic Type on birth certificates.

"The Y chromosome is one of two sex-determining chromosomes (allosomes) in mammals, including humans (the other is the X chromosome). In mammals, the Y chromosome contains the gene SRY, which triggers testicle development if present. The human Y chromosome is composed of about 50 million base pairs. DNA in the Y chromosome is passed from father to son, and Y-DNA analysis may thus be used in genealogical research. With a 30% difference between humans and chimpanzees, the Y chromosome is one of the fastest evolving parts of the human genome.[1]"

Even after a sex-change operation, a trannie who started out male will have an XY chromosome. A trannie who started out female will have an XX chromosome.


"The XY sex-determination system is the sex-determination system found in humans, most other mammals, some insects (Drosophila), and some plants (Ginkgo). In this system, the sex of an individual is determined by a pair of sex chromosomes (gonosomes). Females have two of the same kind of sex chromosome (XX), and are called the homogametic sex. Males have two distinct sex chromosomes (XY), and are called the heterogametic sex.

This system is in contrast with the ZW sex-determination system found in birds, some insects, many reptiles, and other animals, in which the heterogametic sex is female.

A temperature-dependent sex determination system is found in some reptiles."


So, whether you are a Drosophila fly or a homo sapiens, if you're XX, you're a woman. XY & you're a man. Doesn't matter which body parts were cut off during the transgender-ization surgery.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Drosophila_XY_sex-determination.svg/457px-Drosophila_XY_sex-determination.svg.png


SIDE NOTE #1 ~
There was actually an online magazine called "XY2K" put out in Y2K. it didn't take off but it was an interesting experiment at an Internet start-up in San Diego, named Web Side Story.

SIDE NOTE #2 ~
"The thermosensitive, or temperature-sensitive, period (TSP) is the point during development at which sex determination occurs in temperature-dependent sex determination systems, such as those present in alligators and turtles.[6] Occurring during the middle third of incubation, the TSP lasts for 7–15 days, species-dependent.[6] The temperature must be maintained during this time for a certain sex to be determined; often the differences between temperatures required to produce each sex are very slight and during the TSP, sex is susceptible to change with temperature."

Hitch
3rd August 2013, 03:41 PM
Birth certificates are such hateful discriminating documents. So many victims, so much wrong....transgenders is just the beginning.

What about all those old folks who spend thousands of dollars on plastic surgery to look younger? They should be able to knock 10 years off their date of birth.

gunDriller
3rd August 2013, 05:01 PM
i sort of changed my mind.

once the state is involved, especially a Jew-run state, it fvcks things up.

i think it's more fair to let individuals have control over their birth certificate than to leave that task to the state.

states have shown that they can not be trusted, that they have an instinct for mediocrity instead of intelligence, that they are extremely vulnerable to falling sway to the "charms" of the Jews (Blood Passover, pedophilia, bankster-ism).

anarchy is just plain better. and that somehow relates in my tired mind (my alarm went off at 4:30 this morning) to birth certificates.


but if you run for Pres., THEN we get to know the details.