Another big train wreck?

[StreetsOfGold]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/police-several-injured-swiss-train-collision

Didn't we just have one? A train that was going too fast around a corner.

Funny how the economy is often liken to a train wreck and now we have the real life examples.


BERLIN (AP) — At least 35 people were injured, five of them seriously, in a head-on collision of two trains in western Switzerland late Monday, police said. One person had yet to be recovered from the wreckage.

The crash happened near the station of Granges-pres-Marnand shortly before 7 p.m. (1700 GMT) on a regional line about 50 kilometers (31 miles) southwest of the capital, Bern. It came just days after 79 people were killed in a high-speed train derailment in Spain.

Photographs from the Swiss site showed the two regional trains locked together, partly lifted off the tracks by the force of the collision.

Police said several ambulances, fire engines and a helicopter were involved in the rescue operation. Rescuers had not yet been able to reach the driver's cabin of one of the trains, said the police in the canton (state) of Vaud in a statement.

News website 20min.ch quoted Patricia Claivaz of the Swiss rail company CFF as saying the trapped man was the driver. It was unclear if he was alive.

According to police, the five people who were seriously injured were taken to the hospital in the nearby city of Lausanne.

Earlier, Swiss media had cited police as saying 44 were injured, four of them seriously. It wasn't immediately clear why the injury figure had been lowered.

Switzerland's rail system is considered among the best and safest in the world. Accidents are rare, though three years ago the country's popular Glacier Express tourist train derailed in the Alps, killing one person and injuring 42.

[Serpo]

Its been a bad week for trains

[Cebu_4_2]

Wanted to look at this thread for a while but couldn't get the chance. It is funny how there is a flush of the trains lately. Another hidden agenda?

[Serpo]

Train Hacking......................



High speed train crash in Spain NOT POSSIBLE
Jim Stone, July 25, updated July 26, 2013
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CONFIRMED: Rail system had automatic speed control which would prevent ANY train traveling on it from approaching the turn at that speed.
ASFA RAIL SPEED SYSTEM IN SPAIN FORCES AUTOMATED FULL STOP OF ANY TRAIN OPERATED OVER SPEED AND WILL STOP A TRAIN EVEN AGAINST THE OPERATORS WILL Of course, the media is focusing on how the train's engineer said "he screwed it up" after the crash, and are lying and misrepresenting his facebook account which shows a picture of a train speedometer with a reading over 200 KM/h, but if the trains are designed to do that anyway as a normal matter of course, that's just a stab at the minds of people who do not know this. The media is also playing the mind game of mentioning the newest speed control system, and implying the reason for the crash was because the speed control system was not the most modern, but the ASFA speed control system this train was under the control of was perfectly adequate and absent getting hacked would never have allowed this crash.


After reading the media reports it is easy to see the misleading quotes which add up to a lie, and the bottom line is that this train crash CLEARLY WAS NOT POSSIBLE, outside of willful intent from someone not on the train. My original post follows

With modern computerized controls installed on trains nowadays, it has long been impossible to go 115 mph around a 50 mile an hour turn. That is exactly what happened in Spain, so we are definitely looking at a control system attack or virus attack as the cause of the crash.

It was an extremely luxurious train of the type that would be carrying important political people and high executives from various companies, and a large number of very important people from the upper levels of the Catholic Church were aboard. The train was only one year old and had the latest computerized controls, which would never have permitted the train to be driven in a way that would cause this crash. This was a case of "boston brakes" with this train.

In the initial Mexican broadcasts, they had pictures of a high level figure who got killed in the crash on the television, but when I saw it there was a torrential downpour with thunder while I was eating at a taco stand under a tarp seeing it on a cheap TV and I could not hear who it was that got killed because the rain was too loud. The subsequent nightly newscast mentioned nothing about it. But someone very high up got killed in that crash. Now I cannot find anything about who it was on the web. No doubt that will be heavily censored.

I have absolutely no doubt that the train crash was an intentional and successful assassination attempt and if anyone doubts they would hijack and crash a train the way they did Hastings, what about all the suspicious plane crashes, where hundreds of people get killed just because one target was aboard?

What about 9/11?

Commuter trains have had computer controlled speed regulation for over 20 years. Though it may be possible to crash them by putting opposite traveling trains on the same track, having one train go over twice the speed it should be on a stretch of track is not possible. The computers on the train will know where the train is and how fast it is going and prohibit the train from being operated over the max speed for where it is on the track. In Mexico City, the 20 year old subway trains cannot be driven over speed and have the entire course the train will travel under computer control with the operators in a supervisory position, unable to make the train go any faster than it should. The Boston subway is the same, even the older lines are speed regulated. In Vancouver B.C., the skytrain does not even have an operator aboard AT ALL, the trains are 100 percent computer driven and controlled, and even that system, which is fully automatic is getting close to 20 years old now. Trains are really easy to have full automation on, because the tracks do the steering and GPS and speed sensors do the rest.

So with this train we are looking at either a hack or a Stuxnet type virus attack, and though I saw one report that said the driver was driving the train that fast, I doubt it. Not with something that modern, which was a high class luxury bullet train to boot. Most likely he was watching the sharp turn approach with horror and a dead stick.

Now the job is to find out who was on that train that made it worth hacking and crashing.


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[Cebu_4_2]

That's what I figured since they are remotely controlled... Agenda. No Trains, go to petroleum based vehicles...safer.

[Serpo]

That's what I figured since they are remotely controlled... Agenda. No Trains, go to petroleum based vehicles...safer.


Isnt that what Micheal Hastings thought

[Spectrism]

I would figure that it is pretty easy to derail a train. If there were any real terrorist threats, why don't we have 10 train wrecks a week? The same for all modes of transport. We have not yet seen terrorism.

[Ponce]

Those danm Arabs "terrorist" keep pushing the train from behind to make them go faster.....may as well blemed them for it.

V

[Bonate]

Another one? That makes three in the past month? I am glad this past one wasn't as serious as the one in Spain, but it is still weird that there have been so many this year. Arent they charging the guy in Spain with like 70 counts of manslaughter?

[gunDriller]

Wanted to look at this thread for a while but couldn't get the chance. It is funny how there is a flush of the trains lately. Another hidden agenda?

i have a feeling that there will be a third. something more than a streetcar accident in San Francisco.

[Serpo]

The ONE important story of the day, truncated, more tomorrow
The train driver, IMMEDIATELY after the crash, said the train was going too fast on a section of track with automatic speed control that set the speed automatically, with the train operator not being able to affect the speed at all, other than to slow it down. When he realized the train was going too fast, (above the regulated speed) he tried to apply the brake, and the brake was totally non functional.


The train then entered a section of track where there was no speed control, at a much higher speed than it should be going, which was 4 KM before the turn. Even in this section, he could not apply the brakes, it was a dead stick. Because the speed was so high coming out of the previous (obviously hacked) speed controlled section, it traversed the following 4 KM in under a minute and slowed only to 200 KM during the 4 km stretch where there was no automatic speed control. Immediately before the turn, he entered the ASFS system which was not hacked, and the train autobraked down to 190KM but it was too late and it crashed.

The train operator had a dead stick the entire time. This was reported in the Associated Press.
So here is what happened, and I can't link this because GOOGLE of all things won't allow me to access ANY web sites that have Google Stats enabled in this secure mode, and it permanently locks up the machine so I can't get out right now to get the links, but I will just say what is obvious.


There were MAJOR Catholic activities going on at the time of this crash, and the train was packed full of top people from the Catholic Church. Since Israel and the greater Jewish community is at war with the Catholic Church, this trainload of top people was hijacked via hacks in the automated track systems and computerized controls on the train itself, in an attempt to murder everyone on the train as well as the operators.

Since Jews think cheap as hell, they did not calculate that a train might actually stay on the tracks when going FAR OVER, 2.5X over rated speed around a turn, an over capacity they would never put into any system because they are bottom dollar with everything, so the train stayed on the tracks longer than they expected it to, and the engine succeeded in making the turn. This allowed the driver to survive and tell witnesses what really happened and it also allowed half of the people on the train to survive the crash. They wanted the crash to happen head on into a brick wall, and they did not get what they wanted.

And if you are sitting there spitting, calling me an anti-semite, let me ask you this: If the train operator said the brakes did not work, that the train was going over speed in a section that is completely computer controlled, and that the entire hell ride was a dead stick, would that not be the top story? Obviously YES, and the fact that the ziopress is dead silent about this, even AFTER it was reported in the AP, it proves beyond a reasonable doubt THEY DID IT. And I laughed about the back stabs of this guy being a "speed demon" just because he talked about how fast the trains were and posted pictures of speedometer readings to his facebook page, when HE DID NOT HAVE CONTROL OF THE SPEED AT ALL, OTHER THAN TO BRAKE, and with the Jewish hack in place he did not even have brake control.

The report about the train operator saying he screwed up is a LIE. He does feel terrible about it, but that is the same type of terrible a driver feels when a biciycle flies out of an alley onto a 50 mph street and gets hit. Not the driver's fault, but terrible nonetheless, and possibly life changing.

The Latino press is absolutely silent about the control system hacks, but they get fed by the Hollywood news in America anyway. All fake and special effects. And my final rip, which is an absolute DOOZIE will be attached to the end of this article tomorrow, because what is in it has to be documented for people to believe it, and I can't do that now because Google is playing police man and I will therefore have to get the links on an unsecure machine, load them into this one, sign in, and post. Today I learned that Google is nothing but a weapon which forces privacy invasion, which functions perfectly even when people never try to or want to access Google.


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I agree with him on google being nothing but a weapon as google is everywhere and has various forms ,and its always tracking,found this out when I downloaded a program that lets you know who was spying on you , and it was google everywhere and facebook also.







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