'Royal' Birth Certificate

[palani]

(1) No last names are used ... office seems to take the place of a surname.
(2) Arabic number is not used in the date except in the year ... and AD is not used on the year
(3) Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom appears to be an occupation
(4) Mother has no surname at marriage different from her maiden surname of MIDDLETON ... out of WEDLOCK????
(5) The informant did not bother to sign the form but he is qualified as father.

http://i43.tinypic.com/sbj67t.jpg

[Serpo]

RACE..............................Anninaki Over Lord

[midnight rambler]

He didn't sign as 'informant' since he wasn't abandoning the property at the POE.

[palani]

He didn't sign as 'informant' since he wasn't abandoning the property at the POE.

The last name (MIDDLETON) enters that person into commerce. Hence the fruit of the union was bought and paid for.

[Glass]

interesting that the fathers surname is Louis as is the childs. Not windsor or sax coburg.

[palani]

interesting that the fathers surname is Louis as is the childs. Not windsor or sax coburg.

No. There is NO surname. The surname enters one into commerce and I expect the prince has never been so engaged.

The importance of the surname can be seen here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_XVI_of_France

Louis XVI was suspended and arrested as part of the insurrection of 10 August 1792 just one month before the constitutional monarchy was abolished and a republic declared. He was tried by the National Convention, found guilty of high treason, and executed by guillotine on 21 January 1793 as a desacralized French citizen known as "Citizen Louis Capet", a nickname in reference to Hugh Capet, the founder of the Capetian dynasty – which the revolutionaries interpreted as Louis' family name.

King Louis the XVI HAD to have a last name in order to have his head lopped off.

[gunDriller]

crappy hand-writing !

i could write better than that.

how much does the official scribe get paid ?

i'll take the job for 10,000 ounces of Silver a year.

[govcheetos]

Interesting...........

[Son-of-Liberty]

Nice find Palani this is gold. Pretty much a tutorial of how to fill out a birth certificate.

Is there more of that document or is that all?

What would one of us commoners put in instead of filling out a last name? Free Man?

[govcheetos]

Nice find Palani this is gold. Pretty much a tutorial of how to fill out a birth certificate.

Is there more of that document or is that all?

What would one of us commoners put in instead of filling out a last name? Free Man?


Or what if we just didn't fill one out?

[Son-of-Liberty]

That is always an option. However at some point your offspring may want to engage in commerce and if there is a way to do it without giving up all your rights then I think it would be a better solution then just avoiding everything.

If it is good enough for the royals.....

[Hatha Sunahara]

It doesn't say certificate anywhere. It's not a certificate. Royals don't need certificates. They keep records. This is a birth record. Like a record of a visit in a guest book. The royals are sovereigns. Only slaves need birth certificates.

Does anyone suppose that this record, the original of it will be given a number and traded on exchanges? And from then on, only a copy will be available to the prince? Hah!



Hatha

[midnight rambler]

It doesn't say certificate anywhere. It's not a certificate. Royals don't need certificates. They keep records. This is a birth record. Like a record of a visit in a guest book. The royals are sovereigns. Only slaves need birth certificates.

Hatha

Exactly, a record the same as an entry in the family Bible for instance.

[JohnQPublic]

It appears a bit more formal then that. "MIDDLETON" is the only name capitalized, maybe to indicate that she is a non-royal slave vassal used for the purpose of bringing forth the prince?

What is the source of the document?

[midnight rambler]

It appears a bit more formal then that. "MIDDLETON" is the only name capitalized,

All caps is what brings a term or name into commerce apparently, however I'm unable to wrap my head around as to what purpose it would serve in this case.

[Serpo]

common law

[palani]

Is there more of that document or is that all? The article came from here
http://news.yahoo.com/kate-william-register-birth-prince-george-144231373.html

There are several other news sources as well that did not lop off the last several boxes ... they show the fathers signature.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2383616/Prince-George-William-Kate-formally-register-birth-Kensington-Palace-mother-puts-Princess-United-Kingdom-occupation.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/02/royal-baby-birth-certificate-photo_n_3694870.html


What would one of us commoners put in instead of filling out a last name? Free Man?

Entire books have been written on the topic so I won't be able to give the topic its due. Here is one

http://books.google.com/books?id=sYkwAQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=law+of+the+name&hl=en&sa=X&ei=tuX8UbPaMIrargG6sYGwBA&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=law%20of%20the%20name&f=false

You are free to choose your own name as long as you don't do it for fraudulent reasons. You are less free to choose your own name if you have been baptised.

If you own a plot of land you may title it 'Land of Plenty' or whatever title you choose. There is express statutory authority in the Act of 1672 in Scotland to append the land title to your name. If one of your ancestors is Scottish then by all means follow their customs. Having a little parcel of property also makes one a Baron (land baron) so then your son (Sonofliberty jr.) might be called Baron Sonofliberty of the Land of Plenty.

To anyone who objects to titles then stop using Mr. or Mrs as well (master and mistress).

[palani]

Or what if we just didn't fill one out?
Probably a bad idea that would come back to handicap junior sometime in the future. However if you want to notify the state of the arrival of your offspring you might do so with a legal notice in the paper. Then get the publisher to notarize an affidavit that it has been published and record it at the county recorders office. The tyke can then use certified copies of this record to show his that arrival was duly noted to the public.

The birth certificate is full of admissions. The father signed under the terms ' I certify that the particulars entered above are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.' and he signs as 'informant'. In France during WWII informants were sought out and terminated. He is acknowledging by his signature that the 'City of Westminster' is an administrative area and that the place of birth is 'Paddington Westminster'. He is admitting to having an occupation (a commercial term). He admits to a postal code (W8 4PU) that imports treaties from the Universal Postal Union. There are admissions made everywhere that he is certifying to. Think carefully before you admit to having beliefs of this sort.

[horseshoe3]

(5) The informant did not bother to sign the form but he is qualified as father.

http://i43.tinypic.com/sbj67t.jpg

The image you have is truncated. See link: http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/streams/2013/August/130802/6C8488823-tdy-130802-royal-birth-certificate-02.blocks_desktop_medium.jpg

He signs as "William" no surname.

[Son-of-Liberty]

I know in Canada you are asked to fill out a Registration of Live Birth which is the record of your child's birth that is signed by the parents. They then send you a document titled Certificate of Birth in the mail signed by DIRECTOR. Notice that the documents are not actually the same although most people think they are.

Apparently the Certificate of Birth used to come with a letter that said to not use it as identification although now from what I have heard it doesn't contain the warning. Of course even when it came with the warning everyone used it as identification.

Some people think that when you receive the Certificate of Birth in the mail that you should send it back to the government as it is a creation of the government and not actually for your real flesh and blood child and instead get a certified copy of the Registration of Live Birth

I don't know if it is of consequence but my birth certificate is printed by the CANADIAN BANKNOTE COMPANY. LIMITED.

[midnight rambler]

Of course an 'informant' is 'one who provides information*', IOW a snitch, one who rats out someone else.

*So what's an 'information'?


INFORMATION. An accusation or complaint made in writing to a court of competent jurisdiction, charging some person with a specific violation of some public law. It differs in nothing from an indictment in its form and substance, except that it is filed at the discretion of the proper law officer of the government, ex officio, without the intervention or approval of a grand jury. 4 Bl. Com. 308, 9.
2. In the French law, the term information is used to signify the act or instrument which contains the depositions of witnesses against the accused. Poth. Proc. Cr. sect. 2, art. 5 .
3. Informations have for their object either to punish a crime or misdemeanor, and these have,.perhaps, never been resorted to in the United States or to recover penalties or forfeitures, which are quite common. For the form and requisites of an information for a penalty, see 2 Chit. Pr. 155 to 171. Vide Blake's Ch. 49; 14 Vin. Ab. 407; 3 Story, Constitution, 1780 3 Bl. Com. 261.
4. In summary proceedings before justices of the peace, the complaint or accusation, at least when the proceedings relate to a penalty, is called an information, and it is then taken down in writing and sworn to. As the object is to limit the informer to a certain charge, in order that the defendant may know what he has to defend, and the justice may limit the evidence and his subsequent adjudication to the allegations in the information, it follows that the substance of the particular complaint must be stated and it must be sufficiently formal to contain all material averments. 8 T. R. 286; 5 Barn. & Cres. 251; 11 E. C. L. R. 217; 2 Chit. Pr. 156. See 1 Wheat. R. 9.

[govcheetos]

Probably a bad idea that would come back to handicap junior sometime in the future. However if you want to notify the state of the arrival of your offspring you might do so with a legal notice in the paper. Then get the publisher to notarize an affidavit that it has been published and record it at the county recorders office. The tyke can then use certified copies of this record to show his that arrival was duly noted to the public.

The birth certificate is full of admissions. The father signed under the terms ' I certify that the particulars entered above are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.' and he signs as 'informant'. In France during WWII informants were sought out and terminated. He is acknowledging by his signature that the 'City of Westminster' is an administrative area and that the place of birth is 'Paddington Westminster'. He is admitting to having an occupation (a commercial term). He admits to a postal code (W8 4PU) that imports treaties from the Universal Postal Union. There are admissions made everywhere that he is certifying to. Think carefully before you admit to having beliefs of this sort.


For conversation sake there are handicaps and then there are handicaps.

Having the offspring grow up out side the system could have potential benefits too.

Say the kid was "born in the back seat of a greyhound bus".

Lots of potential with the lyrics found here:

http://youtu.be/pKDVLSDgMM8

[palani]

Say the kid was "born in the back seat of a greyhound bus".

When he reaches majority he (or she) may do as he wishes. Perhaps the birth certificate is not about HIM giving up rights but rather his parents.