Mother Teresa - Angel of Mercy or Hell's Angel?

[General of Darkness]

Jesus said, you give a person a fish, he eats for a day. You teach a person to fish he eats forever. As a Catholic I view the church as an abomination. It's a corporation that only works in it's own interests i.e. money. Why does the church promote immigration? Money etc etc

This video is very interesting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXTvqT3hXW4

[StreetsOfGold]

The following is from an interview with a Catholic nun, ‘Sister’ Ann, who worked in Kathmandu, Nepal, with ‘Mother’
Teresa's organization Missionaries of Charity. The interview was conducted 23/11/1984 at the Pashupati Temple:
Q: Do you believe if they die believing in Shiva or in Ram [Hindu gods] they will go to heaven?
A: Yes, that is their faith. My own faith will lead me to God, ... So if they have believed in their god very strongly, if they
have faith, surely they will be saved.
Q: Today it does not seem that the Catholic Church is trying to convert anymore. I know that John Paul II is saying now
that those of other religions are saved. You do not believe they are lost anyway, right?
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A: No, they are not lost. They are saved according to their faith, you know. If they believe whatever they believe, that is
their salvation.
Obviously, then, ‘Mother’ Teresa is both a pantheist and a Universalist--Universalists maintain that Muslims, Hindus,
Jews, and other non-Christians can get to heaven without saving faith in Christ; they are those who believe that all who
sincerely follow their own religions or beliefs will be saved. ‘Mother’ Teresa tells Muslims and Jews that they worship
the same God that Christians worship. ‘Mother’ Teresa has even called atheistic communists children of God! ‘Mother’
Teresa is very much in the mainstream of the ecumenical world evangelization project "Evangelization 2000." She was
on hand in June, 1987, by invitation, to help dedicate the offices of Evangelization 2000 in Rome. She is an honorary
member of Lumen 2000, the electronic media aspect of Evangelization 2000. The first issue of New Evangelization 2000
features ‘Mother’ Teresa prominently with photographs of her, and one entire article entitled, "Mother Teresa Promises
Support." (Reported in the 2/15/93 Bold Truth Press .) ["Mother" Teresa was also scheduled to join the Dalai Lama and
hundreds of other world religious leaders at the Parliament of the World's Religions in 1993 in Chicago, Illinois. She was
scheduled to lead a closed session of key participants on future co-operative efforts among the world's religions, but was
forced to cancel for health reasons.]
‘Mother’ Teresa is also involved in various projects with New-Agers and "one-worlders." In 1985, "Mother" Teresa
attended a conference sponsored by the United Nations University of Peace whose featured agenda was a call to bring
about the New World Order. Others participating in the "Spirit of Peace" conference included Marilyn Ferguson,
leading proponent of the New Age movement; Prince Bernhardt of the Netherlands, commonly known as a leader of the
one-world secret elitist society, the Bilderbergers; "His Holiness" Tenzin Gyatso, the XIV Dalai Lama of Tibet; Helen
Caldicott, president of "Physicians for Social Responsibility," an organization favoring U.S. unilateral disarmament;
Bishop Desmond Tutu, proponent of leftist revolution in South Africa; and New Ager Robert Muller, Ass't. Secretary
General of the U.N., in charge of coordinating the work of 32 specialized agencies and world programs. [Reported in
"Ecumenism, 'Global Spirituality' and Mother Teresa," Christian Inquirer (April 1985), p. 26; and The Prophecy
Newsletter (Vol. 1, No. 5, p. 6.)]
‘Mother’ Teresa also participated in the "Summit for Peace" in Assisi, Italy, in November 1986. This blasphemous
prayer meeting was arranged by the Pope and was attended by leaders of many different religions, including Hindu,
Buddhist, Islamic, Shinto, Sikh, and North American Indian--all of whom united in prayers for world peace (11/10/86
Time , pp. 78-79). Biblical Discernment Ministries - Revised 3/96
[Mother Theresa died in 1997 and based on the gospel she taught and lived by, she is now awaiting the White Throne
Judgment and will be judged for her sins. While many ignorant Protestant clergy still laud her as a true Christian, she
was anything but. No one will ever deny she did true humanitarian work but she came in the name of a false gospel, she
preached a false gospel, and died in that false gospel. The way of salvation is through Christ and Christ alone. No one
can work their way to Heaven, for if we could, then Christ died in vain because salvation would have been available by
human effort. Self-works are an affront to the Cross of Christ. Mother Teresa is another casualty of the false church of
Rome. If you are reading this and want to follow in her footsteps, you have become seduced by a false system and in
need of salvation. - Dr. Ken Matto]
The following quote is from a TIME magazine article in August of 2007 titled, MOTHER TERESA'S CRISIS OF FAITH...
And in fact, that appears to be the case. A new, innocuously titled book, Mother Teresa: Come Be My Light (Doubleday),
consisting primarily of correspondence between Teresa and her confessors and superiors over a period of 66 years,
provides the spiritual counterpoint to a life known mostly through its works. The letters, many of them preserved
against her wishes (she had requested that they be destroyed but was overruled by her church), reveal that for the last
nearly half-century of her life she felt no presence of God whatsoever — or, as the book's compiler and editor, the Rev.
Brian Kolodiejchuk, writes, "neither in her heart or in the Eucharist."
SOURCE: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html
This came as a startling revelation to hundreds-of-millions of Catholics around the world, who viewed ‘Sister’ Teresa as the
epitome of a woman of faith. In reality, she had no faith at all. Listen to what she wrote to a priest:
“Jesus has a very special love for you. As for me, the silence and the emptiness is so great that I look and do not see, listen
and do not hear.”
— Mother Teresa to the Rev. Michael Van Der Peet, September 1979

[singular_me]

she is kinda evil because she must have been aware of fiat money side effects... and never spoke against it.

nothing to do with pantheism

[Uncle Salty]

There are still people that believe the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ? Wow!

[madfranks]

There are still people that believe the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ? Wow!

John 14:6 - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

So you're surprised that people who profess faith in Jesus actually believe what he said? Why is that so unbelievable?

[Serpo]

as small as I could make it..........


COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS
SOUL of The Soul

Accessed: 12/23/04


"Know Thyself well (http://www.pymander.com/AETHEREAL/AXIOMS.htm#TO%20HIS%20SON%20TAT), and learn the things that are and all that is."
Hermes Trismegistus
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The existence of the conscious "I" and the "Subconscious Mind" on the Mental Plane is a manifestation of the seventh Hermetic principle, the Principle of Gender (http://www.pymander.com/AETHEREAL/PRINC%7E1.htm#VII.%20The%20Great%20Principle%20of% 20Gender). Every human, male and female, is composed of the Masculine and Feminine aspect of Mind on the Mental Plane. Each male has its female element, and each female has its male element of Mental Gender from which the creation of all thoughts proceed. The "I" being the masculine aspect of Mind, and the Subconscious Mind being the feminine. The Principle of Gender manifests itself as male and female in all species of Life and Being that makes the sexual reproduction and multiplication of the species possible on the Great Physical Plane. The phenomena of this Principle can be found in all three great groups of Life manifestation; the Spiritual, Mental, and Physical Planes of Life and Being.
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The "I" Consciousness in each human is the true "Higher Self." The "Higher Self" of each human exists as a constant moving whirlpool (http://www.pymander.com/AETHEREAL/QUANT%7E1.htm#COSMIC%20CONSCIOUSNESS) of Cosmic Consciousness, or an eddy in the INFINITE SPIRIT of "THE ALL (http://www.pymander.com/AETHEREAL/PRINC%7E1.htm#I.%20The%20Great%20Principle%20of%20 Mentalism,%20or%20MIND)," which manifests LIFE in all of us and all living entities of the lower and higher planes. The "I" within all of us as being apart of the Mind but not separated exists in all of us and is the instrument of the conscious "I." It is Eternal and indestructible and mortality and Immortality is not an issue in it's existence. There is no force in existence capable of destroying the "I." This "I" or "Higher Self" is the SOUL of the Soul and is holographically connected to THE ALL, giving the powerful "I" the Image of its CREATOR (http://www.pymander.com/AETHEREAL/PRINC%7E1.htm#I.%20The%20Great%20Principle%20of%20 Mentalism,%20or%20MIND). All of us are created in the image of GOD without any exceptions or exclusions and none can escape its OMNIPRESENT INFINITE LIVING MIND. The ALL being the Ruler of all fate, or destiny, in all peoples, nations, governments, religious institutions, suns, worlds, galaxies, planes, dimensions, and Universes. All are subject to its Wills and Efforts, and is the LAW that keeps all things in relationship to their SOURCE (http://www.pymander.com/AETHEREAL/PRINC%7E1.htm#II.%20The%20Great%20Principle%20of%2 0Correspondence). There is no "existence" outside of THE ALL.
When the "I" is consciously recognized within ourselves, the "Will" of the "I" is powerfully exerted upon the Subconscious Mind, giving the Subconscious Mind purpose and a sense of direction in LIFE. The Mind is the instrument by which the conscious "I" pries open the many deep, and hidden secrets of Nature.
To cause advancement, each individual would have to initiate the effort in learning the deep secrets of their nature, setting aside all the trifling efforts of self-condemnation, low self esteem, and hurts in their daily living that is caused by allowing the ignorant brainwashing of societal conditioning and self inflicted wounds. All the brainwashing, and imagined hurts that we experience in our lives are lessons to overcome these obstacles and to learn, and recognize the powerful "I."
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When the human Mind learns to become focused on a single object or subject at a time, without wandering, excluding all other objects/subjects waiting in line, the Mind is capable of gathering previously unknown energy and information about a given subject or object. The entire world of that person seems to revolve in such a manner that it would bring them information from the unknown regions of the Mind. This is true meditation, to gather information about the unknown while being in a focused meditative state of Mind. Each true meditation should bring a person information that will cause his or her Mind to expand with Knowledge, especially, when the focal point of concentration is that of SPIRIT. A person who learns to master this mental art will find that the proper books will manifest into their Life and bring to them the missing puzzles of LIFE. Books that will draw the attention of an individual on a given subject, and when the new knowledge is applied to the individual's Mind, it is allowed to expand further upon the subject by allowing the Mind to gather additional information and increasing the knowledge base, causing further advancement for others as well.
The mental art of concentration by employing the exertion of the will and creating desire upon a given subject or object is very rare because the lazy human mind is content with wandering triflingly through Life. The untrained average human Mind is constantly rapidly wandering from one subject/object to another and is unable to focus on a single subject because of the constant carousel of external impressions of objects from the surrounding material world. The untrained mind is constantly jumping from one subject/object to another, like the jumping around of a wild monkey, never able to pause for a moment, to concentrate, and focalize long enough to allow the Mind to gather information about a given subject or object. This is what thinking is. To allow the Mind to gather information about the unknown. When this is disallowed, a person will wander aimlessly through Life and maintaining an ignorant state of Mind.
Wandering aimlessly through Life is a dangerous mental state to maintain because of the possible danger of other minds with stronger wills and efforts to manipulate the person who has not taken responsibility in the discipline and control of their own mind. A person who has no control of their own wandering mind, has no control in Life's destiny because of the lack of focus and direction in Life. It can be compared to a rudderless ship that is constantly tossed by the rise and fall of the waves from the powerful ocean.
When the Mind becomes trained and learns to concentrate and focalize on a single object or subject at a time, that state of Mind will bring the individual Universal Knowledge and Wisdom. This is how genius is created by applying the mental art of concentration and focalizing on any worthwhile subject. The famous theories and hypothesis come into being such as Einstein's theory of relativity, man's ability to fly through the air, space travel, etc., by applying the mental art of concentration. It is an undending mental aspect of the human mind as it continues to expand and gathers more and more information about all known and unknown subjects and objects, constantly causing change and advancement in Spirituality and technology. Unbiased, Spiritual Wisdom enables the proper use of technology and is the catalyst for its increasingly rapid advancement. It maybe difficult, at the moment, to conceive that Spirituality and technology go hand in hand, but the lack of Spiritual Wisdom will dampen the infinite possibilities because of a limited, diminutive belief system.
Technology ends where the mortal barrier begins, then, it becomes a necessity to look into the realm of SPIRIT in order to continue human evolution. Without the continuous advancement of evolution, this civilization will become dissolved and perish off the face of the earth, like the many previous civilizations before us. The mortal barrier begins when science and technology will reach the limitation of the atomic and sub-atomic particles and a quantum leap into the realm of the Waveform (SPIRIT) becomes a necessity in order to continue upward progress.
When a person learns to find a quiet moment in their lives to be able to become mentally focused and centered on their profession, job, Spirituality, whatever the endeavor, they will find the answers and renewed energy to solve problems and create new knowledge and ideas.
When a person (no matter who) learns to focus and concentrate on SPIRIT, their Mind will gather from their Cosmic Consciousness, the deepest secrets of the Universe, as to how it is composed, by what means, and to what end. But, the enigma of the deepest inner secret Nature of THE ALL, or GOD, will always remain unknowable to us by reason of its INFINITE stature to which no human qualities can, or should, ever be ascribed.
There is more (http://www.pymander.com/AETHEREAL/QUANT%7E1.htm#COSMIC%20CONSCIOUSNESS) on the subject of the powerful "I" consciousness the "I Am," the "Higher Self," which is, each one of us.

http://www.pymander.com/AETHEREAL/COSMIC~1.htm


also...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_consciousness (http://www.pymander.com/AETHEREAL/COSMIC~1.htm)

[Uncle Salty]

John 14:6 - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

So you're surprised that people who profess faith in Jesus actually believe what he said? Why is that so unbelievable?

I have a hard time believing that some pygmie living in the jungle that is never exposed to Jesus Christ is doomed to no salvation because he never had a chance to find Jesus.

Not only that, but Jesus didn't speak English, so those exact words were never spoken. The bible was oral for hundreds of years and then manipulated by man for political purposes.

So no, I don't believe the only way to the father is through a dead guy that lived 2000 years ago. How exactly does a dead guy get you to the father. Now, when Jesus was living, he was the way to the father, but once he died, that job was passed to another living saint.

[horseshoe3]

I have a hard time believing that some pygmie living in the jungle that is never exposed to Jesus Christ is doomed to no salvation because he never had a chance to find Jesus.

Not only that, but Jesus didn't speak English, so those exact words were never spoken. The bible was oral for hundreds of years and then manipulated by man for political purposes.

So no, I don't believe the only way to the father is through a dead guy that lived 2000 years ago. How exactly does a dead guy get you to the father. Now, when Jesus was living, he was the way to the father, but once he died, that job was passed to another living saint.

The age of accountability is applied to children usually. It might be that it applies to isolated people as well. There's also the question of natural revelation. God reveals himself through his creation. I don't know the details, but I know that God is both merciful AND just. Those who accept Jesus will go to heaven. Those who reject him will go to hell. I really don't know what happens to those who have never heard, but I trust that God will make the right decision. In the mean time, it is my job to tell people the good news and remove the uncertainty as far as it depends on me.

[vacuum]

The bible is written on many levels. Jesus was just an example for us, and his story was an illustration of how to be saved. It was a physical demonstration of a mystical inner process. Believing in the process does nothing for you, just like believing that a recipe will make great chilli does nothing for you. You have to actually follow the recipe, otherwise it's pointless. Very few of us are individually saved, obviously. But on another level it's possible that humanity as a whole will follow the process and succeed. But in that case all of humanity is saved, and individuals are only saved in the same way that cells in your body are "saved" when you survive a car accident. A lot of them die, more are produced to replace them.

[Cebu_4_2]

I have read that all the souls are trapped here on earth because the second coming of Jesus has not happened yet. So they are still here, it was quoted that it says exactly that in the bible somewhere. I'm no bible thumper so I don't know where to find that info. If anyone is interested pm me and I will contact that source, but link this thread so I can put it in here.

[Hitch]

I've always thought we are in purgatory here on earth. The lives we live, our actions decide whether we will go to heaven, or hell, when we die.

So, I agree with Uncle Salty. Some pygmie living in the jungle has lived an honorable life will be welcomed. Furthermore, Mother Teresa has only done things that have bettered the world. How anyone can cast stones her way, is beyond me. The world is a better place because of her.

[tater]

There are still people that believe the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ? Wow!

There are still people that believe in heaven? Wow!

[Glass]

There are still people who believe in and worship the devil. wow!

[zap]

Well I find it hard to believe, I married a Catholic,( so our marriage was never reconized by the church, since I didn't convert) He didn't believe it either.. that babies who aren't baptized will go to limbo or purgatory neither one of us believed that is true, that was his biggest problem with the Catholic church.... other then the weird shit with Altar boys.

[Cebu_4_2]

There are still people who believe in and worship the devil. wow!

There are and I don't understand that drive. There must be promises and shit so to them Satan is GOD? 2 sides to the story.