WTF is wrong with americans...

[Cebu_4_2]

http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/412013211849funnycomicnordiccountriesAmericaneduca tion.jpg

[madfranks]

Yeah, that's exactly what we need, four years of free college along with monthly stipends for everyone in the country, that'll solve it. /sarc

[Atocha]

Floride

[midnight rambler]

Yeah, that's exactly what we need, four years of free college along with monthly stipends for everyone in the country, that'll solve it. /sarc

It's already bad enough when the most stupid are given subsidies for reproducing.

[Ponce]

I like I said long ago........"If the future of America is in the hands of our children, we are then in deep trouble"

Witout the proper education there is no future for America....."We are living from the fruit trees of past generations, and not from one of our own"

V

[Hitch]

Yeah, that's exactly what we need, four years of free college along with monthly stipends for everyone in the country, that'll solve it. /sarc

I'd rather we spend the money on our kids, and their futures, instead of wasting it on useless wars.

It doesn't have to be a hand out, just the costs need to go down to what kids can afford. Heck, I paid for my college, tuition and everything, pumping gas and delivering pizzas. Kids ought to be able to afford higher education if that is what they wish to achieve, without going into lifetime servitude in the debt system.

[midnight rambler]

The whole point is to go into lifetime servitude, in fact the 'education' part is teaching this concept early.

[Shami-Amourae]

The problem isn't lack of education. The problem is the current economic system isn't designed to handle this much automation. There aren't enough jobs to go around and too many people, so wages will get lower and lower as costs continue to go down. Reducing the population wont work because the issue is machines are too efficient. Less people should, and need to be working. If we had an efficient system that properly employed technology we would be trying to increase the unemployment rate as high as possible to increase leisure time and standard of living for all.

I'm not saying government is the solution to this. I'm just pointing out the ultimate issue is automation, but it is also the solution. We need to change our approach to everything.

[Hypertiger]

The USA is the demand of the system.

Finland lives off the system by supplying the demand of the system.

They live in a fantasy world sustained by the US consumption which is the demand they feed and yield from that is used to finance their scheme...for the past 40 years.

It takes decades to set up and it would not even exist if Bretton woods was not implemented in 1944.

[gunDriller]

Kids ought to be able to afford higher education if that is what they wish to achieve, without going into lifetime servitude in the debt system.

as is the case with "health care", they (schools & health care organizations) charge more because they can.

via loans, students can afford more for their education. schools are happy to take the money.

via health insurance, patients can afford more for their "health care". health care organizations are happy to take the money.


cost of 1 semester tuition at ETH Zurich (same Swiss college Einstein went to) - 600 francs per semester. about $600, not sure of the current exchange rate.

[Twisted Titan]

The system is extremely profitable to those who keep the majority of humanity at the brink.

It doesn't matter how you get into debt. Health care , credit cards ,education as long as the serrated meat hooks get in.


The hand that gives is above the hand that borrows.

They have know this for a very long time

[mamboni]

Subsidizing education so as to make it "free" is just another societal malinvestment. If the premise of the OP is correct, that education is priceless and investment in it is always money well spent, then education-related debts wouldn't be an issue, right? Ok, this is something of a tautology. But if you make anything "free" or even below fair market cost, you guarantee that it will be overinvested in, over utilized and wasted. The reason tuitions are so high and so many "colleges" have popped up offering so much in overpriced courses is that government is providing unlimited school loans and below market rates. The reason kids are signing up for these overpriced colleges and useless courses is because they are misguided by the OP's premise, that higher education is always worth the investment. This is not true. It is easy for a kid to sign up for the loan - our government has made it so. If these loans were handled like any private business loan, where collateral, cash flow and creditworthiness had to be provided by the borrower, most of these loans would never have been made in the first place. There is also moral hazard: most of these kids fully expect these loans to be forgiven in the future.

[Hatha Sunahara]

What's wrong with the United States (and the rest of the world by extension) is that humanity uses a phony money system--one that is privatized, and makes people pay through the nose for the privilege of having money--which should be a public utility available interest free. The way it exists now guarantees that there will be 99+% people with little or no money, and 1%- people who own everything. It is the people who control the money that set the policies.

If we had a government that made policies that benefited the most people as much as possible, there would be nothing wrong with the USA. But we have a government that benefits only the 1%- the most. Everybody's problem globally is that their governments are bought out by the wealthy. It will get worse instead of better. Norway will be like the USA when the elite have completely bought out their government.


Hatha

[steyr_m]

They can shower the Detroit public school system with money and they will still only be 50% literate. Money isn't the answer

[Grand Master Melon]

It's a crazy system we have here for sure. The government finances everyone for higher education thereby drumming up the cost. The employers want everyone to have a degree, whether or not it is relevant to any position they may be applying for, thereby driving down the value or importance of education.

[Serpo]

The American system is being taken down down from the top............