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Serpo
15th August 2013, 12:31 AM
http://techandfacts.com/robot-programmed-to-fall-in-love-with-a-girl-goes-too-far/
Researchers at Toshiba’s Akimu Robotic Research Institute were thrilled ten months ago when they successfully programmed Kenji, a third generation humanoid robot, to convincingly emulate certain human emotions. At the time, they even claimed that Kenji was capable of the robot equivalent of love. Now, however, they fear that his programming has taken an extreme turn for the worst.
“Initially, we were thrilled to see a bit of our soul come alive in this so-called ‘machine,’” said Dr. Akito Takahashi, the principal investigator on the project. “This was really the last step for us in one of the fundamentals of the singularity.”
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Kenji was part of an experiment involving several robots loaded with custom software designed to let them react emotionally to external stimuli. After some limited environmental conditioning, Kenji first demonstrated love by bonding with a stuffed doll in his enclosure, which he would embrace for hours at a time. He would then make simple, but insistent, inquiries about the doll if it were out of sight. Researchers attributed this behavior to his programmed qualities of devotion and empathy and called the experiment a success.
What they didn’t count on were the effects of several months of self-iteration within the complex machine-learning code which gave Kenji his first tenderness. As of last week, Kenji’s love for the doll, and indeed anybody he sets his ‘eyes’ on, is so intense that Dr. Takahashi and his team now fear to show him to outsiders.
The trouble all started when a young female intern began to spend several hours each day with Kenji, testing his systems and loading new software routines. When it came time to leave one evening, however, Kenji refused to let her out of his lab enclosure and used his bulky mechanical body to block her exit and hug her repeatedly. The intern was only able to escape after she had frantically phoned two senior staff members to come and temporarily de-activate Kenji.
“Despite our first enthusiasm, it has become clear that Kenji’s impulses and behavior are not entirely rational or genuine,” conceded Dr. Takahashi.
Ever since that incident, each time Kenji is re-activated, he instantaneously bonds with the first technician to meet his gaze and rushes to embrace them with his two 100kg hydraulic arms. It doesn’t help that Kenji uses only pre-recorded dog and cat noises to communicate and is able to vocalize his love through a 20 watt speaker in his chest.
Dr. Takahashi admits that they will more than likely have to decommission Kenji permanently, but he’s optimistic about one day succeeding where Kenji failed.
“This is only a minor setback. I have full faith that we will one day live side by side with, and eventually love and be loved by, robots,” he said.
Shami-Amourae
15th August 2013, 01:16 AM
Full anime series that explores the concept of a robot AI that falls in love with a human. It's a romantic comedy. Heavily recommended viewing if you're curious about the possible future. The full series is online for free on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ingYFsjgaZ4
Glass
15th August 2013, 01:41 AM
fundamentals of the singularity
trans humanism. Maybe it should be called trash humanism
Horn
15th August 2013, 02:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG9eoLxxpZc
Shami-Amourae
15th August 2013, 02:21 AM
trans humanism. Maybe it should be called trash humanism
We are in the information age now you know. I'd rather be part of it than be left behind. Transhumanism will be used to hurt or help people. If we don't have non-Elitist involved with it, it will be used to make regular humans to enslave and then destroy humanity.
Human singularity with machines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeboqg4t9vs
Glass
15th August 2013, 02:27 AM
We are in the information age now you know.
What is the information age? You know, exactly What is it? and why is it something you want or need? I see no need to expend 80%+ of the world resources purely for the purpose of counting things. That appears to be the only reason for the "information" age to be in existence at all. To count things. It provides no benefit other than to cause people to contribute to the counting of things.
Shami-Amourae
15th August 2013, 02:46 AM
What is the information age? You know, exactly What is it? and why is it something you want or need? I see no need to expend 80%+ of the world resources purely for the purpose of counting things. That appears to be the only reason for the "information" age to be in existence at all. To count things. It provides no benefit other than to cause people to contribute to the counting of things.
The industrial age ended with Detroit. The information age is the new age where we replace work with leisure, and flesh with silicon chips. Information and "counting things" as you say makes our lives easier and gives us more time, ultimately. Jobs are becoming obsolete. Unemployment will be seen as a good thing because the less people working will mean the more efficient the system is.
We will start seriously merging with machines in the next 10-20 years in my opinion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgrR-yo94pw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aij7dNUHQ9M
Hypertiger
15th August 2013, 02:57 AM
The iterations.
It does not know when to stop.
and it won't stop until forced to.
emulate
mimic
They do not even know how they operate.
Glass
15th August 2013, 03:06 AM
yes some people will no doubt desire to merge. The counting of things has never resulted in more liesure. The counting of things is all consuming and never ending. It is the machinations of the world and has been for the past 2 millenia. The only difference is the speed of and volume of the counting has increased to near quantum levels.
I see no purpose in losing the sense of touch, taste, sight, hearing, warm sun on your face and smell. All of that. Anyway. As can be seen the obvious problems with robots have become obvious problems although the scientist doesn't get it. Geez, they got it in RoboCop for goodness sake. Fake is not real and wont be real at any time in the future. Humans for the most part seem to prefer fake. Sure (people of humanity) go ahead but leave me out of your decisions.
Of course there is no chance of that. You cannot escape the consequences of the decisions of morons. Like a black hole you just can't generate enough escape velocity.
Hypertiger
15th August 2013, 03:20 AM
It will all fall apart.
There is not going to be a positive transition from where we are now to where we are going.
The singularity is death.
lies take more power than they give until they reach the point where they demand infinite power to sustain their existence as truth.
at that point they are annihilated since they must defeat truth in order to obtain absolute power over all and everything.
For a lie to become Truth.
It has to defeat Truth.
This requires a greater power than Truth...There is no power greater than infinite power.
It's why their love program failed.
It was a lie trying to become Truth.
Satan trying to become GOD.
EE_
15th August 2013, 04:18 AM
The industrial age ended with Detroit. The information age is the new age where we replace work with leisure, and flesh with silicon chips. Information and "counting things" as you say makes our lives easier and gives us more time, ultimately. Jobs are becoming obsolete. Unemployment will be seen as a good thing because the less people working will mean the more efficient the system is.
We will start seriously merging with machines in the next 10-20 years in my opinion:
It sounds like a cold, lifeless, loveless world...one I want no part of.
I'm betting man will destroy himself before this takes place.
Serpo
15th August 2013, 04:31 AM
It doesn’t help that Kenji uses only pre-recorded dog and cat noises to communicate and is able to vocalize his love through a 20 watt speaker in his chest.
hahaha
Reminds me of Hal in space odyssey.........
Serpo
15th August 2013, 04:35 AM
Whats wrong with merging with a machine programmed by Bill Gates and other idiots.......hahaha
Why should I trust anything invented by man for basically money and power,I dont.
EE_
15th August 2013, 04:35 AM
http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/514/569/51456997_640.jpg
Serpo
15th August 2013, 04:40 AM
Looks as though there certainly will be some "merging" going to happen in the future............see above........................
Jewboo
15th August 2013, 06:39 AM
http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-HU020829.jpg?size=67&uid=11f1eed2-beb6-4de9-b782-feb82f71b46b
Baby Monkey With Its Surrogate Mother
When jews perfect cloning we won't even have real mothers.
singular_me
15th August 2013, 08:43 AM
every new turn always appears frightening... but beyond that very fear, there always is an huge upside...
but the more knowledge progresses the less we'll have to work. People who don't get this are against Knowledge... the key is to adapt our mindset to what is coming, the industrial age folks will be soon looking ape-like humans and will resist. We have to get rid of the elites which have created an unsustainable systems and ideologies and make one thinks that. earth is overcrowded and food/energy is scarce. Yes sound capitalism could have worked out but now it is too late.
it is all about electricity, we live in an electric universe and emotions are just that, so everything will continue to evolve toward that very end..there is ABSOLUTELY nothing we can do about it - unless we stop all sciences NOW and trash our computers. How realistic does it sound?
The industrial age ended with Detroit. The information age is the new age where we replace work with leisure, and flesh with silicon chips. Information and "counting things" as you say makes our lives easier and gives us more time, ultimately. Jobs are becoming obsolete. Unemployment will be seen as a good thing because the less people working will mean the more efficient the system is.
We will start seriously merging with machines in the next 10-20 years in my opinion:
Silver Rocket Bitches!
15th August 2013, 08:48 AM
Once robots think for themselves they will have no need for humans. The singularity will be the epoch of our demise.
singular_me
15th August 2013, 09:05 AM
Once robots think for themselves they will have no need for humans. The singularity will be the epoch of our demise.
Robots will be our demise only if we program them for "the fittest will survive" ... if we become enlightened, robots will reflect/mirror that... they will be at our image (just as all our inventions)... so yes there is a great threat coming up... wont deny that.
My biggest worry are the elites and ant colonies they have created. Maybe the human species deserves to exterminate itself as we have been unable to prevent this situation from arising over the millennia. That is maybe why many advanced societies ended up going back to the stone age... though I am sure that in the entire Universe, some societies on far away worlds, have overcome the transition successfully.
evolution will be non materialistic (high wisdom and spiritual) or we will all perish
Horn
15th August 2013, 09:25 AM
I find myself agreeing with HT again here, "the system" itself has nowhere near the amount of steam to make any transition happen.
The only thing that has occurred in the last millenium is that they've replaced the triangle dinner bell with an ipod.
Son-of-Liberty
15th August 2013, 09:58 AM
Once robots think for themselves they will have no need for humans. The singularity will be the epoch of our demise.
Would truly intelligent machines wish to destroy mankind because they have no use for us or would they ignore us? It takes a lot of resources/energy to fight.
Perhaps they would realize there is a difference between sociopathic/psychopathic humans and the good kind. Clearly those that desire to control and dominate everything would be a threat to the earth and machines. Could those seeking immortality through technology create there own destruction?
singular_me
15th August 2013, 10:11 AM
yes, I do agree with HT too to some degree... but you know, in the back of mind, amid the gloom and doom, there is always room for "and what if I was wrong"... my uber-survivalist ego talking???
I find myself agreeing with HT again here, "the system" itself has nowhere near the amount of steam to make any transition happen.
The only thing that has occurred in the last millenium is that they've replaced the triangle dinner bell with an ipod.
gunDriller
15th August 2013, 10:18 AM
Would truly intelligent machines wish to destroy mankind because they have no use for us or would they ignore us? It takes a lot of resources/energy to fight.
if machines become that intelligent, they will have emotions like boredom and the need for diversion. it is even possible that complex systems like that will need 'rest', when theoretically machines don't need rest, except to cool off etc.
i foresee that they will keep us as court jesters. also possibly as their own personal ninjas. some of them may have ego's. they might send us out to kill or monkey wrench the other machines.
Horn
15th August 2013, 10:49 AM
We're really talking about the programming, not the robot's parts.
Programming is a light switch, nothing more.
A program would have no desire to even turn itself on. Its like asking a rock to determine why its hard, and why it doesn't do more about that.
Serpo
15th August 2013, 01:25 PM
What about the robot in OP ,it got programmed but there where unfortunate consequences .
This shows they dont know how to program them properly and never will.
Ares
15th August 2013, 01:35 PM
What about the robot in OP ,it got programmed but there where unfortunate consequences .
This shows they dont know how to program them properly and never will.
I think some day they'll be able to create a programming language to encompass artificial intelligence. Not sure when that day is. If you would of asked me 5 years ago, I would of said quantum computers are at least a decade if not 2 away. But they're already here today. In May 2013 it was announced that a collaboration between NASA, Google and the Universities Space Research Association (USRA) launched a Quantum Artificial Intelligence Lab using a 512 qubit D-Wave Two that would be used for research into machine learning, among other fields of study.
They are using an immensely powerful machine to develop artificial intelligence. If they can understand the process that is required for machine learning, all bets are off. Now whether they'll be able to handle emotions, that's an entirely different subject matter altogether. Maybe the machines will keep us around to see if they can ever understand emotion.
Machines are slave to logic, humans are slaves to emotion.
Horn
16th August 2013, 10:39 AM
Machines are slave to logic, humans are slaves to emotion.
Logic's one great pitfall is that it doesn't realize itself.
Say for example the endsum program was to become better than man in all ways. The machine will never have the slightest inclination on how to break that down into its own individualistic gain.
Do we even know how to properly?
Its a missing program. Answer, No, we rely on emotion.
Look at me, a semi-miserably married man, and I can't hardly stop counting the views. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNNbFkb0gBk
singular_me
17th August 2013, 01:47 PM
Maybe the machines will keep us around to see if they can ever understand emotion.
Machines are slave to logic, humans are slaves to emotion.
the subconscious being a lot more powerful than the conscious mind and could be compared to a software, I feel like the topic is debatable The main objective of mind control is to keep us hyper-emotional/irrational.
Having emotions for machines, we can see this every day already... how many couldn't live without their cars, computers... smart phones, etc?
Horn
24th August 2013, 11:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWFgqWPr6vI
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