A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon…

[Serpo]

This email and video just came to Beforeitsnews from Award winning and controversial film director Bart Sibrel (http://beforeitsnews.com/r2/?url=http://www.youtube.com/user/BartSibrel1?feature=watch) who asked that we publish it for your information and viewing pleasure. This video purports to show never before seen, unedited and behind the scenes footage of Neil Armstrong during his historic flight and moon walk. What do you think? Bart’s own description of this video directly below. This contains newly discovered, unedited, behind-the-scenes footage, of the recently deceased Neil Armstrong, during his historic “Apollo” flight. The scene contained therein has never been broadcast to the public. In it, Armstrong is using a one foot diameter model of the earth, from low earth orbit, to create the illusion for the television viewers, that he and his crew are half way to the moon, when they are, in fact, still in earth orbit. This segment is dated by NASA’s own computer clock as having taken place two days into Armstrong’s flight, when he is supposed to be half way to the moon, yet he and his crew are clearly shown (in this newly discovered unedited version) to be still orbiting the earth and falsifying the television photography to deceive the viewing public of their real location. The (CIA?) is even heard on a private, third, audio channel, prompting Armstrong to respond to Mission Control’s initial question only after four seconds have passed, in order to create the false impression of an increased radio delay, so as to appear much farther from the earth than he actually was. Jump ahead to time: 32:02 if you do not wish to view the entire forty seven minute documentary and only view the newly discovered unedited out-takes of Neil Armstrong falsifying mission photography during the Apollo 11 flight.


http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2013/08/unreleased-moon-walk-footage-proof-of-moon-landing-hoax-a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-moon-2464528.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2013/08/unreleased-moon-walk-footage-proof-of-moon-landing-hoax-a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-moon-2464528.html)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciCJfbTvE4#at=2611http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciCJfbTvE4#at=2611

[StreetsOfGold]

I've had this video for years.

There are so many reasons you could use that a vdieo this long could not possible cover. My personal favorite are the Space suits. Capable of cooling AND heating such incredible tempatures running on what? Where do I get such an incredible suit TODAY!!? Forget 40 years ago, where do I aquire one of these incredible designs NOW!?

Anyone have a link? NASA? Hello??

I won't even get into the "waste" management problem if you know what I mean or the Oxygen supply issue

[Norweger]

It may be an even bigger hoax than the holocaust.

[Serpo]

Its important to see without any doubt that they did fake it


I saw a part where they seemed to be bouncing along in zero gravity but it appears they where in slow motion and when speeded up it is obvious what is happening

[Serpo]

It may be an even bigger hoax than the holocaust.


or 9/11 or.......................................Obama.... .......or...........ect

[Norweger]

It's one of those subjects where you get hated massively if you don't accept it.

Also, Van Allen Belt... radiation protection in the suits? none. The earth is in quarantine.. nothing gets out of here alive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--AaixSNCUg

[madfranks]

Yeah, the OP video has been out for years now, and is by far the best moon landing debunking film I've ever seen.

[Ponce]

Asn we all know (do we?) the surface of the moon is nothing but dust.....but......whe the capsule was shown on the moon it was nice and clean with no dust anywhere........and in the shot of them on the moon I saw two rocks shadows pointing the wrong way.

V

[Cebu_4_2]

The gold tinfoil repels dust.

[Glass]

I remember watching the movie Capricorn One. Might have a different name in the US. I must have watched that movie more than 50 times. I kept wondering, what if they did something like that. I didn't know about any moon landing conspiracies back then. Still didn't consider it much until fairly recent. Seems pretty obvious now in light of the in craft video and the press conference. Body language is a give away.

As pointed out, the technical logistics seem to make it impossible unless you suspend logic. I think people's wishing them a successful journey over took their ability to think it through. There would have been a media huge build up. Probably the first major world event since the launch of TV. A fair bit of naivety which still is the norm. Schools would be doing special projects etc. The world would have been fullly hypnotized by the time the launch took place.

[Twisted Titan]

I remember watching the movie Capricorn One. Might have a different name in the US. I must have watched that movie more than 50 times. I kept wondering, what if they did something like that. I didn't know about any moon landing conspiracies back then. Still didn't consider it much until fairly recent. Seems pretty obvious now in light of the in craft video and the press conference. Body language is a give away


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Ding ding ding ding.


Glen body language is 10000% consistent with somebody is making up bullshit as he goes along and the two other pilots are paties just going along with it.

[Son-of-Liberty]

I've been convinced for awhile now the moon landing was faked.

For me the deciding factors are:

1. original color footage on tape destroyed (destroying evidence)

2. Saturn rocket and lander detailed schematics and blueprints destroyed. (destroying evidence)

3. Just look at the lander in high resolution photo's and it just looks cheap and fake. Like something I could build in my garage if I could get my hands on gold tin foil.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/AS11-40-5922HR.jpg

That's about it for me. I don't really need more evidence then that to make up my mind on the subject. The lander was made out of black felt paper, gold tinfoil and scotch tape.

Notice how there is no logical reason for the placement of certain things on the lander. (look at other pics if you want) In this pic it looks like there is one sensor almost straight above one of the thrusters where it could be damaged. Some of the tubing making up the support frame is protected with gold foil. Some of the tubing is protected with black felt paper. Some of the tubing isn't protected at all? There are random pieces of gold tape on the large piece of black paper for no apparent reason while at the same time there is a seam in the paper that is not covered with tape at all. The paneling on the upper part of the module does not appear to fit right. It is bowed and there appears to be gaps. Two of the thrusters come out of silver tin foil, two of them come out of black paper. Why? Certain things are covered in silver tinfoil, others in gold tinfoil, some with paneling and some with black paper. There doesn't seem to be any consistency or reason why a certain part of the craft would be protected with the different materials used.

I could go on but I think I proved my point.

[Glass]

I watched the short section of press conference and then there was a link to the full press conference that I also watched. It ran 1 hr 20. It was what appears to be the whole PC shown from the left side camera. Then the PC is played again but from the front on camera upto about 30 minutes of the orginal 40 or so minutes. So the last portion of the PC is not available from the central camera position. Seems there was a technical glitch. Not sure if it was the original recording or the uploading to YT.

Anyway, it adds a bit of perspective. Possibly they were in a situation that was not natural to them, even if they have been the focus of global attention. So I could cut them a little slack but still the overall vibe was they were lying.

I have a couple of questions about the moon landing and lift off sequences. How do you think that was done? Prepared well in advance and filmed using models? The footage fed in at the right time? I guess its very feasible. You have a multitude of opportunities to have technical issues to interrupt the images coming in.

I've seen some space suits that appear to have some kind of ball joint at the elbows and knees. Does the US space suit include these which are hidden under the white over suit when in the field?

I also wanted to know how the heck they got into their EVA suits when in such a tiny capsule. I have seen the capsule or a "true replica" in some museum somewheres. England or someplace. Maybe the natural history museum in london? An interesting place indeed if you have eyes wide open.

Anyway the capsule was extremely small. There was maybe enough room to roll left to right in a circle but not end over end sumersault style. They were in the suits the whole time and only needed to hook up the LS systems?

I notice wiki has none of the ambiguous lighting images on their version of events.

As a side note, the author of the Capricorn 1 movie was a telemetry technician during the Apollo missions. That is where he got the idea. I'm actually watching the movie again. It has Elliot Gould and OJ Simpson in it. OJ has very little 'fro. They used some kind of big fish bowl for the helmets. Kind of in the shape of a fro as well. FroJay Simpson. Probably wishes he never heard of hollywood.

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

It's one of those subjects where you get hated massively if you don't accept it.

Also, Van Allen Belt... radiation protection in the suits? none. The earth is in quarantine.. nothing gets out of here alive.



Yet now they're trying to sell us the story that we're sending a team to Mars. They can't even send bugs beyond that belt without them getting fried.

[Glass]

Can you see the stars or the sun in space. Some people say that is the case. I wondered as many have at the lunar landing conspiracy. The lack of stars is used as a proof. It would make sense that if there is nothing for light to reflect off or refract through you would not see anything. Junior high might demonstrate that with lights and prisms. You can't see the light, only the things it reflects off.
Eric Dollard has this and some other things to say about the sun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi7ISKaRr9s
Not sure about the ham claims and some others.

Here's a guy. Seems reasonable enough. Listen for the last question and answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUtH3qvYBiY

He and Dollard seem to have crossed paths.

I've not seen a space photo of the sun except for those taken on earth or within the atmosphere portion. There are no visible spectrum observatories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_observatories#Visible) outside the earths atmosphere.

Then I remembered this. An englishman asks two questions (jolly what what) Watch for a couple minutes to hear Neil Armstrongs answer to Can you see the stars.
http://youtu.be/XeAGGpRYmKY?t=43m8s

And then traveling back in time we find this:
http://youtu.be/XeAGGpRYmKY?t=1m17s

Notice he says using the telescopes. You cannot see the stars without reflection or refraction.

There a many interesting comments in this interview. It is either two different conferences or 1 conference in two stages. The 2nd stage being a Q&A.

I want to cross post this to this thread (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?76792-Pyramids-and-The-Orion-Belt-(mind-blowing))

[StreetsOfGold]

The lack of stars is used as a proof.

For myself, the most compelling piece of evidence is something no one needs to speculate on.
The space suit.
The suit they wore supposedly was capable of keeping them cool in 200+ degrees and warm in -200 degree climate.

There was recently a news article in which they were talking about repairs on an orbiting space vehicle.
An astronaut was fixing something in space and in the video he kept talking about how cold he was.
You could hear it in his voice and he also said the glass was fogging up.

WHAT?!? How could this possibly be? I do not recall the Apollo astronauts ever having this kind of problem.
The technology should be far superior to what was available in 1969.

That is some backpack with a spectacular heating/cooling system built in.
Let's not also forget to factor in oxygen, micrometeorite protection and radiation protection. (waste elimination too hehe)

I wrote to the company that produces the official space suits for NASA (surprise, they are STILL in business and STILL the official producers of spacesuits for NASA)
They claim they cannot produce such a suit FOR ME.
Their answer was vague at best and concluded that it is NASA's property and left it at that.

So, where is such an incredible suit TODAY!?!? Where is this incredible heating/cooling technology that you can wear ON YOUR BACK?!

[midnight rambler]

For myself, the most compelling piece of evidence is something no one needs to speculate on.
The space suit.
The suit they wore supposedly was capable of keeping them cool in 200+ degrees and warm in -200 degree climate.

There was recently a news article in which they were talking about repairs on an orbiting space vehicle.
An astronaut was fixing something in space and in the video he kept talking about how cold he was.
You could hear it in his voice and he also said the glass was fogging up.

WHAT?!? How could this possibly be? I do not recall the Apollo astronauts ever having this kind of problem.
The technology should be far superior to what was available in 1969.

That is some backpack with a spectacular heating/cooling system built in.
Let's not also forget to factor in oxygen, micrometeorite protection and radiation protection. (waste elimination too hehe)

I wrote to the company that produces the official space suits for NASA (surprise, they are STILL in business and STILL the official producers of spacesuits for NASA)
They claim they cannot produce such a suit FOR ME.
Their answer was vague at best and concluded that it is NASA's property and left it at that.

So, where is such an incredible suit TODAY!?!? Where is this incredible heating/cooling technology that you can wear ON YOUR BACK?!

Also it would seem the positive pressure of any space suit vs. a vacuum would have them all puffed up looking like the Michelin man.

[gunDriller]

it seemed real to me.

of course, i was about 10 years old. i was too busy picking silver coins out of my change to worry about the genuine ness (or lack thereof) of the moon program.

[Norweger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ltL_EaQOA

[monty]

it seemed real to me. of course, i was about 10 years old. i was too busy picking silver coins out of my change to worry about the genuine ness (or lack thereof) of the moon program.

It seemed real to me too, I was 27 then and still believed in my government.

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[Libertarian_Guard]

For myself, the most compelling piece of evidence is something no one needs to speculate on.
The space suit.
The suit they wore supposedly was capable of keeping them cool in 200+ degrees and warm in -200 degree climate.

There was recently a news article in which they were talking about repairs on an orbiting space vehicle.
An astronaut was fixing something in space and in the video he kept talking about how cold he was.
You could hear it in his voice and he also said the glass was fogging up.

WHAT?!? How could this possibly be? I do not recall the Apollo astronauts ever having this kind of problem.
The technology should be far superior to what was available in 1969.

That is some backpack with a spectacular heating/cooling system built in.
Let's not also forget to factor in oxygen, micrometeorite protection and radiation protection. (waste elimination too hehe)

I wrote to the company that produces the official space suits for NASA (surprise, they are STILL in business and STILL the official producers of spacesuits for NASA)
They claim they cannot produce such a suit FOR ME.
Their answer was vague at best and concluded that it is NASA's property and left it at that.

So, where is such an incredible suit TODAY!?!? Where is this incredible heating/cooling technology that you can wear ON YOUR BACK?!

Don't forget that all this was done using DC power off a battery. They must have made better batteries back in the 1960's.

[Santa]

Don't forget that all this was done using DC power off a battery. They must have made better batteries back in the 1960's.

Everything was bigger and better back in the 60's. Men all had gigantic balls and the women had to wear bra's just to keep their teats from swinging and knocking over buildings.
It was the era of the "GREATEST GENERATION" that ever lived. Hell, even the Beav on Leave it to Beaver could have kicked the Terminators ass.

[Glass]

but why can't you see the sun and the stars when you are in space? You could be face directly into the sun but you wont be able to see it.

I'm not debunking this thread/topic. Just seemed the appropriate thread for the observation above because the press conference video is linked here. On reflection it was the wrong thread to post this in.

[Santa]

but why can't you see the sun and the stars when you are in space? You could be face directly into the sun but you wont be able to see it.

I'm not debunking this thread/topic. Just seemed the appropriate thread for the observation above because the press conference video is linked here. On reflection it was the wrong thread to post this in.

Photo of the sun from space.
6267

[osoab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ltL_EaQOA

Is that Father Guido Sarducci?

[Glass]

Photo of the sun from space.
6267

yes through a refracting lens. It seems without that or reflection you can't see it. The video I posted of the man in the blue shirt needs watching. Especially for the last answer he gives to a question about this. The video of the Apollo 11 news conference seems to back that up at the two points I referenced.

more debunking of this is invited because it leads to something else.

There are also no optical telescopes outside of earth orbit but I would assume atmosphere or something is needed for this effect to be true. How far up would that be? 200miles? That seems to be the max height for optical telescopes.

[singular_me]

it surely is... because along with the moon landing became america a world power that will lead us into WW3


It may be an even bigger hoax than the holocaust.

[singular_me]

I quickly agreed with the fake moon landing... and to me such a detail makes it even clearER.


For myself, the most compelling piece of evidence is something no one needs to speculate on.
The space suit.
The suit they wore supposedly was capable of keeping them cool in 200+ degrees and warm in -200 degree climate.

There was recently a news article in which they were talking about repairs on an orbiting space vehicle.
An astronaut was fixing something in space and in the video he kept talking about how cold he was.
You could hear it in his voice and he also said the glass was fogging up.

WHAT?!? How could this possibly be? I do not recall the Apollo astronauts ever having this kind of problem.
The technology should be far superior to what was available in 1969.

That is some backpack with a spectacular heating/cooling system built in.
Let's not also forget to factor in oxygen, micrometeorite protection and radiation protection. (waste elimination too hehe)

I wrote to the company that produces the official space suits for NASA (surprise, they are STILL in business and STILL the official producers of spacesuits for NASA)
They claim they cannot produce such a suit FOR ME.
Their answer was vague at best and concluded that it is NASA's property and left it at that.

So, where is such an incredible suit TODAY!?!? Where is this incredible heating/cooling technology that you can wear ON YOUR BACK?!

[Glass]

ok no biters. so most of the suns emissions are in the visible spectrum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight
I'm just wondering how those guys could make those claims. Sun rays, fair enough but you're always going to see the source if you are looking directly at it.

[mick silver]

would there not have to be a moon to be able to take a trip there