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Ares
16th August 2013, 06:49 AM
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Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists.

"This is something that those who voted in Congress are going to have to live with," Paul told The Cable on Thursday. "The question is: How does their conscience feel now as they see photographs of tanks rolling over Egyptian civilians?"

As the official Egyptian death toll climbs to 638, the legislation the Kentucky libertarian is referring to was an amendment to suspend aid to Egypt until the country holds free and fair elections. Two weeks ago, Republicans and Democrats rejected it by an overwhelming 86-13 vote -- and top lawmakers in both parties protested it loudly.

"This amendment may be good politics, but it is bad policy," Sen. Bob Menendez, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said at the time.

"It would be a terrific mistake for the United States to send a message to Egypt: you're on your own," Republican Senator John McCain added back then. "I urge my colleagues to vote to table the Paul amendment."

The vote has already come back to haunt some lawmakers, such as McCain, who is now advocating a cancellation of aid to Egypt and criticizing White House policies as a "colossal failure."

"Congress is way out of touch on this issue," said Paul. "These people who believe in projecting American power, really believe in projecting American weakness. They don't want us to respond to words with actions or obey our own laws."

Earlier today, President Obama announced the cancellation of a joint U.S. military exercise with Egypt, but did not cut off the $1.3 billion in military aid the U.S. provides to the country. "While we want to sustain our relationship with Egypt, our traditional cooperation cannot continue as usual when civilians are being killed in the streets and rights are being rolled back," Obama said.

Paul called the decision a cop out. "Too little too late," he said. "If he wants to send a message to the military, tell them they're not getting anymore planes. Tell them they're not getting any more tanks."

Defenders of U.S. military aid to Egypt, such as Council on Foreign Relations President Richard Haass, say the U.S. can't afford to lose its influence in Egypt, the largest country in the Arab World and a neighbor to U.S. ally Israel. Others have warned that Paul's desires to disengage with the world will make the U.S. more vulnerable, a charge Paul disputes.

"This mindset that if you don't give people money and weapons, then you're not engaged is bizarre," he said. "I want to engage with the world, I just don't want to be engaged in battle."

"For those who think more weapons is engaging us with the Egyptian people, ask an Egyptian," he continued. "When you're protesting in the streets and you're run over by an American tank, you're not going to be appreciative of American engagement."

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Spectrism
16th August 2013, 09:19 AM
Isn't this entirely the wrong question?

I thought we pumped up al Quaeda / muslim brotherhood to overrun this country first. Once that happened and they started murdering the non-muslims, a fair number of people rose up to fight that devil group. The generals of the army are now doing what the people want- drive out the muslim brotherhood.

Horn
16th August 2013, 10:58 AM
Unfortunately many (off) second world nations and their people still do not know how to remain rightly secular

with regard to lawmaking and politicking.

And its expanding into the first world. (with the help of some members..;)

iOWNme
16th August 2013, 11:09 AM
Shouldnt Rand Paul be spending more time checking out his own conscience?

Hello Pot, Meet Kettle........

SWRichmond
16th August 2013, 12:15 PM
You guys are unbelievable.

"Isn't this entirely the wrong question?" So killing innocents is a good idea?

"Unfortunately many (off) second world nations and their people still do not know how to remain rightly secular with regard to lawmaking and politicking." So we need to teach them how by condoning their murder in the streets, after they won an election and then a military group we support deposed their guy? In other words, it's their fault we're helping kill them?

"Shouldnt Rand Paul be spending more time checking out his own conscience?" So killing innocents is not something we want to bemoan, and not support? Go ahead and make your list of reasons you hate Paul, but include a statement about why you disagree with the facts of this action of his.

iOWNme
16th August 2013, 04:29 PM
You guys are unbelievable.

"Isn't this entirely the wrong question?" So killing innocents is a good idea?

"Unfortunately many (off) second world nations and their people still do not know how to remain rightly secular with regard to lawmaking and politicking." So we need to teach them how by condoning their murder in the streets, after they won an election and then a military group we support deposed their guy? In other words, it's their fault we're helping kill them?

"Shouldnt Rand Paul be spending more time checking out his own conscience?" So killing innocents is not something we want to bemoan, and not support? Go ahead and make your list of reasons you hate Paul, but include a statement about why you disagree with the facts of this action of his.


Give me a break. Rand Paul ADVOCATES for the INITIATION of violence. (The definition of 'Government') Why dont you complain about all of the innocent 'Americans' who are raped, tortured, caged and stolen from every single day by Rand and his Political GANG?

You see, i actually oppose ALL INITIATION OF VIOLENCE. I dont have a 'pack/herd mentality' where i IMAGINE the Ruling Class on this continent to be ANY DIFFERENT than any other GNAG of violence criminals. Its called having principles and morals. Something Rand Paul chose to THROW AWAY when he became a 'Politician'.

I dont hate Rand Paul, i just recognize that he is under MIND CONTROL where he IMAGINES his actions are EXEMPT from all human morality. THEY ARE NOT.

Horn
16th August 2013, 05:09 PM
In other words, it's their fault we're helping kill them?

Its all Spectrism's fault, the post was directed towards his "killing innocents as O.K."

osoab
16th August 2013, 05:58 PM
Rand = Tool

Cebu_4_2
16th August 2013, 06:51 PM
I do not follow all the splinters of legality presented here. I think the conscience of Rand is above the rest of the satanists. Yes he (Rand) might be compromised but he is making a small stink about stuff where the others follow the lead of israel.

I do not have hopes of Rand pulling the world together at all but it at least is a better place to place hope than Romney, Kerry (the new found jew) or hillarious clitton.

There is some good in this world and is not all shit. Everyone can be pulled apart including myself so think clearly and watch those pulling shit apart, remember we are amongst traitors and those sent by satan. We have to be careful with all information including online shit.

osoab
16th August 2013, 06:55 PM
I do not follow all the splinters of legality presented here. I think the conscience of Rand is above the rest of the satanists. Yes he (Rand) might be compromised but he is making a small stink about stuff where the others follow the lead of israel.

I do not have hopes of Rand pulling the world together at all but it at least is a better place to place hope than Romney, Kerry (the new found jew) or hillarious clitton.

There is some good in this world and is not all shit. Everyone can be pulled apart including myself so think clearly and watch those pulling shit apart, remember we are amongst traitors and those sent by satan. We have to be careful with all information including online shit.

Was Rand pulling this schtick in Feb 2011?

Horn
16th August 2013, 09:42 PM
As much as they're pullin ropes around Egypt's neck, they're doing the same here... Cebu

Ponce
16th August 2013, 11:15 PM
Trust Rand as you would a rattle snake two inches from your face....

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