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Ares
16th August 2013, 07:37 AM
As JPM's Michael Feroli notes, the September FOMC Taper announcement (which certainly isn't assured, although if the Fed does not taper, it will end up monetizing 0.4%-0.5% of the total private TSY stock per week before year end) may just be a sideshow to a previously undiscussed main event: the Fed's first forecast of 2016 interest rates.

Quote Feroli: "The problem is that at the end of 2016 [the FOMC's] economic forecasts may well show an economy that is close to full employment and price stability. Normally in that situation one would expect the fed funds rate to be close to neutral—which is somewhere close to 4%. However, their end-of-2015 forecasts have a funds rate forecast centered around 1%. An end-of-2016 funds rate of 4%, which implies 300bp of tightening over the course of 2016, is well in excess of what the market is pricing in....If the Fed presents a 2016 interest rate forecast that is well above the market's expectations—and if the market takes any cue from the Fed—this could tighten financial conditions such that the forecasted acceleration in growth fails to materialize" Want to crash the Fed? Just turn off the default Circular option in their excel models.

As Feroli adds, "In some ways the Fed is at risk of being a victim of its own success."

Feeling boxed in yet Chairman Ben? Or just dazed and confused by all the reflexivity you have created, and which even Bill Gross mocked recently?

Gross: Soros comes 2 bond mkt! #QE3 creates mini asset bubbles but little growth. #Tapering & fwd guidance hope 2 reverse that. Reflexivity!

— PIMCO (@PIMCO) August 14, 2013

From JPM:

The 2016 Problem

The Fed faces an interesting situation at the September FOMC meeting. At that meeting they will introduce their 2016 interest rate forecasts for the first time. The problem is that at the end of 2016 their economic forecasts may well show an economy that is close to full employment and price stability. Normally in that situation one would expect the fed funds rate to be close to neutral—which is somewhere close to 4%. However, their end-of-2015 forecasts have a funds rate forecast centered around 1%. An end-of-2016 funds rate of 4%, which implies 300bp of tightening over the course of 2016, is well in excess of what the market is pricing in. If the FOMC were to produce such a forecast, and if the market were to take its cue from that forecast, then the ensuing tightening in financial conditions would undo much of the hard work the Fed has done in getting rates low enough to support the recovery.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/08/2016%20problem.jpg

In some ways the Fed is at risk of being a victim of its own success. After a few fits and starts, the Fed has finally convinced the market it will keep rates low for a very long time. However, the Fed’s ever-expanding embrace of transparency means it now has to quantify how its verbal attachment to accommodative policy translates into economic and policy rate forecasts. For someone like Michael Woodford, whose paper at last year's Jackson Hole conference arguably had a meaningful impact on the policy debate, such forecasts shouldn't have much of an influence on financial conditions: after all, it is well known that the Fed doesn’t have much of an advantage over the private sector in forecasting accuracy.

That being said, we do think the forecasts convey a policy message, as they indicate how the Fed will react to a given economic outcome. In particular, the 2015 forecasts are already well below what most Taylor rules would prescribe. We expect a similar gap for the 2016 forecasts, which would leave the mid-point of those forecasts around 2.25%, or perhaps a shade above. This would be somewhat above where the market is now pricing the Fed, but not nearly as much as if the funds rate went back to neutral. Such a forecast, well below a Taylor rule, would continue to signal that the Fed will remain “highly accommodative…even after the economic recovery strengthens.” A risk to this outlook is that not enough of the Committee “gets the memo,” so to speak, and pencils in forecasts that are at odds with what the leadership would probably like to see.

The set up

Before jumping straight to the September outlook for 2016, it may be helpful to first review the outlook for 2015 that is captured in the June Summary of Economic Projections (SEP). In those forecasts, the mid-point of the 4Q15 projected unemployment rate was 6.0%, the mid-point of the estimated natural rate of unemployment was 5.6%, and the unemployment rate was falling about 0.5%-point per year over the prior two years. The mid-point of projected 4Q15 inflation was 1.8%, 0.2%-point shy of the 2.0% inflation goal. For the “dots,” which show the funds rate projection in 4Q of each year, we discard the four highest projections. The hawks on the Committee are nice people, and some are good economists, but they have had very little influence on policymaking in recent years, and we expect that to continue. This trimmed forecast has close to a 1.0% funds rate projected at the end of 2015.

The first and most important thing to note about the 2015 forecasts is that the funds rate projection is well below what most Taylor rules would prescribe, given the Fed’s economic projections. For example, the “Yellen rule” (from her June 2012 talk, which is the 1999 Taylor rule with an Okun adjustment of 2.3 to convert unemployment gaps into output gaps) would indicate a 4Q15 funds rate of 2.8%, 180bp above the actual forecast. Most other Taylor rules point to an even higher predicted rate. For example, the "Rudebusch rule" (estimated by the SF Fed's director of research Glenn Rudebusch) indicates a 3.6% funds rate at the end of 2015. The main point is that already in 2015 the Fed is to a large extent obeying the policy prescriptions (as per Reifschneider and Williams, Eggertson and Woodford, and others) of exiting a liquidity trap by keeping rates lower for longer than would be prescribed by a Taylor rule.

On to 2016

Returning to our main issue, the 2016 forecast, if we simply straight-lined the 2013-2015 improvement into 2016, then we would be close to full employment and 2% inflation at the end of that year. There are a few considerations that could come into play, however, when doing such a straight-lining. First, the 2013 GDP forecast will almost certainly be revised down. There is a case for lowering the out-year forecasts as well. It’s not clear how much of the May-June rise in long-term rates was factored into those forecasts, and in most Fed models a rise in long-term interest rates can have a surprisingly large depressing effect on growth. However, much of that growth restraint operates through the housing market, and given the offsetting positive factors supporting housing, the Fed’s judgmental forecast may not have taken too much off of growth due to the rise in interest rates. Second, slower trend growth implies a lower long-run, or neutral, funds rate. This would mean they would need to tighten less over the course of the upcoming cycle. Arguing against looking for this at the upcoming meeting is the fact that the Fed is very slow to change their estimates of unobserved variables—the natural unemployment rate, potential GDP growth, and the neutral funds rate. Third, the ongoing decline in the labor force participation rate has arguably lowered the natural unemployment rate—persons who were previously classified as structurally unemployed (and thus captured in NAIRU) may now be structurally out of the labor force, and thus no longer measured as unemployed, lowering NAIRU. The same caveat as above applies to this argument: the Fed is very slow to change estimates of unobserved variables. Adjustments to all or any of the above variables are likely to be only minor tweaks, and thus leave the economic forecast at the end of 2016 close to the Fed’s goal of full employment and price stability.

Low for long

The economic forecast for 2016 probably won’t give the Fed much justification for keeping rates accommodative, instead there are other reasons to expect the interest rate forecast to remain below what is implied by a Taylor rule. The most important of these is liquidity trap logic: in order to stimulate the economy when rates cannot go below zero, the Fed must commit to keeping rates low even well after the economy recovers. The question then is can the Fed do this credibly? That is, the Fed may tell the market now it will keep rates low in 2016, but why should the market believe it?

One obvious response is: the market already believes it. The 2015 funds rate forecast is around 200 basis points below what a Taylor rule prescribes. If the 2016 forecast had a similar gap it would place the funds rate forecast at 2.0%, pretty close to market expectations. As it is, we expect that the over time the gap between the Fed's forecasts and something like a Taylor rule will close, but it should do so only gradually. Of course, the market may now “believe” the Fed's 2015 interest rate forecast because they don't believe the Fed's optimistic economic forecast, but if so we see no reason why that difference of opinions should change with the release of the September SEP. Another reason the market may believe the Fed’s 2015 forecast is that inflation over the past twenty years has been a slower-moving variable—and less responsive to slack or tightness—than economists of older generations have thought. This means being behind the curve by a year or so on the tightening cycle won’t threaten a 1970s-style inflation risk. A final reason the market may believe the Fed’s forecast of continued easy monetary policy is that the forecasted unemployment rate may not provide a true measure of labor market utilization. Depressed labor force participation rates may mean the Fed has room to remain accommodative even after the unemployment rate gets close to NAIRU, in order to draw discouraged workers back into the labor force. This is a theme that has been mentioned both by Chairman Bernanke as well as in research by senior Fed staffers.

So far, the Fed’s embrace of transparency hasn’t conflicted with its desire to provide extraordinary monetary stimulus. September will provide an interesting test. If the Fed presents a 2016 interest rate forecast that is well above the market's expectations—and if the market takes any cue from the Fed—this could tighten financial conditions such that the forecasted acceleration in growth fails to materialize. Instead, we think the interest rate forecast will be somewhat above where the market is, but not radically so. Such a forecast may appear at odds with the Fed’s economic forecast, but we believe there are good reasons for that gap to exist. So far the market seems to agree.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-16/feds-2016-problem-or-why-taper-non-announcement-may-just-be-sideshow

gunDriller
16th August 2013, 11:24 AM
As JPM's Michael Feroli notes, the September FOMC Taper announcement (which certainly isn't assured, although if the Fed does not taper, it will end up monetizing 0.4%-0.5% of the total private TSY stock per week before year end) may just be a sideshow to a previously undiscussed main event: the Fed's first forecast of 2016 interest rates.


whatever they are predicting about 2016 unemployment rates, they are mis-observing reality.

Cebu_4_2
16th August 2013, 11:25 AM
^ what he said:
The problem is that at the end of 2016 their economic forecasts may well show an economy that is close to full employment and price stability.

Hypertiger
16th August 2013, 04:35 PM
they are all idiots.

the USA has been falling into a liquidity trap for 32 years.

just because the charts end at zero does not stop anything in the real world from continuing to collapse to oblivion.

The FED has zero power to set rates.

you invest 1 dollar into me and if I supply you with 90 cents back.

you can do whatever you want to me that is within your power to do...but if you can not get the yield of power you demand to be supplied with from me.

then I say your magical powers are not greater than mine.

you actually think the FED sets interest rates?

The people that work for a living and slave to hold up all your lazy asses are the supply of the yield you all demand...whatever income you snake from the global trade system is the demand upon the global supply from the net producers of yield.

and when they reach their maximum potential to hold you all up.

they drop you all.

The problem going forward is due to this.

the net producers of power have reached their maximum potential to supply the demand for power by all of you net consumers.

the FED can try all it wants to mine a gold mine that has been mined until it was empty.

the USA is the gold mine that supplies the world with inflation...it was made the supply of power in 1944...and it burnt itself white hot from 1944 till 2008...where it began to run out of resources to consume to supply inflation.

power...all the resources acquired and consumed in a day to supply the demand for yield by all of you.

and the yields have been dropping for 32 years and the FED has lied all the way down...

and now the gold mine is running dry...and because you all are ignorant since a gold mine is a hole in the ground with a liar on top.

you have spent 32 years oblivious that the mine was running out.

What do you think economists learn in university?

What do you think Satan teaches children in university?

The same thing you were all taught to believe is Truth.

The FED is not keeping rates low.

the net producers of yield dictate yield rates...you can demand 5% but if you only can get 4%...then you better increase the volume or prices or ultimately both to make up the difference or die...hire two people to do the work of 1 person or make one person do the work of two.

The net producers of yield that supply the net consumers that write articles to promote all the lies they believe are Truth.

certainly a writer of articles contributes more to society than a farmer.

Why do the farmers continue to grow 1000's of times more food than they require to sustain their existence to supply the demand of the other 98% of the population?

because of the taxes on the farmers imposed upon them by the net consumers so that the net consumers can eat.

just like the writer of the article that thinks the FED has some magical powers to feed you all.

the Federal reserve as a source of power makes me laugh.

The FED needs my power more than I need the power of the FED...because all the power the FED claims to have to give to me is supplied by me to them to begin with...

it would be like supplying all my power to a person so they become rich in power so that I can get some of my power back by polishing the rich persons shoes.

All the power you think your masters have is from all of you to begin with.

The FED has no more power to set yield rates than I do.

and when the net suppliers of power choose to stop or can not supply the demand of the net consumers of power.

GOD wins and Satan loses.

like what do you think...Truth can be killed?

You all do not know Truth at all.

you all are ignorant of Truth.

The FED and every banker that has ever existed has played with your heads to convince you that they are a source of power by using your own power you give to them to fool you with.

until of course you run out of power to supply to them.

then their magical powers of manipulation are cut off.

all their lies you believe are Truth lose power and self destruct and the delusions all shatter.

The FED has never had the power to set yield rates.

ever.

it's just a magic trick you all have fallen for...right to this second.

you all can not believe after decades of brainwashing by the FED that they have no power to set rates.

The owners of the system buy and sell bonds and when they sell or buy bonds and begin to cause yields to rise or fall...they kick the FED chair out like coo coo clock bird to claim it is raising or lowering rates.

and you fall for the trick...for decades and decades.

you all are hard wired drones.

you will fight to the death to protect the lie the FED sold to you all that you all bought and cherish.

you all will fight to the death to remain asleep to enjoy the dream you are awake.

To enjoy the cherished delusion that the FED has magical powers to command the Universe to give you all what you want.

Once the power runs out like it has been doing for the past 32 years.

there will be no way to command GOD to give you what you want.

positive yields.

you will only get what you need from GOD

negative yields.

it would be like planting/investing in winter and commanding GOD to give you bumper crops.

that does not work.

that is what the past 6 decades has been.

A lie you all think is truth...the summer of endless inflation you have fallen in love with and cherish.

A lie that is reaching the point where it's demand for power to sustain it's existence as Truth for you all to worship like fools...becomes greater than you all can supply.

and it is shattering like glass.

it began to shatter in 2005 and everyone was forced to notice in 2008 when what was invisible or the deflation hidden by what was visible or the inflation became greater than what was visible or inflation.

The FED does not set yield rates and never has had such a power.

The FED is an effect of the absolute capitalist system not the cause of it.

The FED is just a scapegoat.

A red herring.

you all do not even know what the purpose of the QE is.

when the line signers ran out in 2005...all the debt they were generating and supplying to the primary dealers to buy bonds was cut off.

The yiled should have spiked up and imploded the world to oblivion.

becaue the QE or unconvential measures were employed.

the world did not implode to oblivion in the blink of an eye.

that is why you are reading this post.

it why you still can enjoy the dream you are awake right now.

Because it's being prevented from turning into a nightmare too fast.

you all are still fighting to the death to remain asleep to enjoy the day dream of the endless summer of inflation.

Until the power runs out...and then you all will be forced awake into the nightmare of the winter of deflation.

the power has been running out for 32 years now and you all including all the economists on Earth are oblivious.

marching to doom with glee.

madfranks
16th August 2013, 05:48 PM
tl;dr

osoab
16th August 2013, 05:58 PM
tl;dr

^

what he said! :D