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Cebu_4_2
18th August 2013, 12:40 AM
Rialto, CA Police Made to Wear Cameras, Use of Force Drops by Over Two-ThirdsChris | InformationLiberation
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http://www.informationliberation.com/files/Los_Angeles_Police_County_Sheriff%20%282%29.jpgWhe n cops in a Rialto, California were forced to wear cameras, their use of force dropped by over two-thirds. Additionally, the officers who were not made to wear the cameras used force twice as much as those who did. This strongly suggests the majority of the time police use force is unnecessary. In other words, the majority of the time these officers used force they were simply committing acts of violence which they don't feel comfortable committing if it's captured on film.
From The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/business/wearable-video-cameras-for-police-officers.html?pagewanted=all&_r=5&):
HERE'S a fraught encounter: one police officer, one civilian and anger felt by one or both. Afterward, it may be hard to sort out who did what to whom.
Now, some police departments are using miniaturized video cameras and their microphones to capture, in full detail, officers' interactions with civilians. The cameras are so small that they can be attached to a collar, a cap or even to the side of an officer's sunglasses. High-capacity battery packs can last for an extended shift. And all of the videos are uploaded automatically to a central server that serves as a kind of digital evidence locker.
William A. Farrar, the police chief in Rialto, Calif., has been investigating whether officers' use of video cameras can bring measurable benefits to relations between the police and civilians. Officers in Rialto, which has a population of about 100,000, already carry Taser (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/stun_guns/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) weapons equipped with small video cameras that activate when the weapon is armed, and the officers have long worn digital audio recorders.
But when Mr. Farrar told his uniformed patrol officers of his plans to introduce the new, wearable video cameras, "it wasn't the easiest sell," he said, especially to some older officers who initially were "questioning why 'big brother' should see everything they do."
He said he reminded them that civilians could use their cellphones to record interactions, "so instead of relying on somebody else's partial picture of what occurred, why not have your own?" he asked. "In this way, you have the real one."
Last year, Mr. Farrar used the new wearable video cameras to conduct a continuing experiment in his department, in collaboration with Barak Ariel, a visiting fellow at the Institute of Criminology (http://www.crim.cam.ac.uk/) at the University of Cambridge and an assistant professor at Hebrew University.
Half of Rialto's uniformed patrol officers on each week's schedule have been randomly assigned the cameras, also made by Taser International (http://www.taser.com/). Whenever officers wear the cameras, they are expected to activate them when they leave the patrol car to speak with a civilian.
A convenient feature of the camera is its "pre-event video buffer," which continuously records and holds the most recent 30 seconds of video when the camera is off. In this way, the initial activity that prompts the officer to turn on the camera is more likely to be captured automatically, too.
THE Rialto study began in February 2012 and will run until this July. The results from the first 12 months are striking. Even with only half of the 54 uniformed patrol officers wearing cameras at any given time, the department over all had an 88 percent decline in the number of complaints filed against officers, compared with the 12 months before the study, to 3 from 24.
Rialto's police officers also used force nearly 60 percent less often -- in 25 instances, compared with 61. When force was used, it was twice as likely to have been applied by the officers who weren't wearing cameras during that shift, the study found. And, lest skeptics think that the officers with cameras are selective about which encounters they record, Mr. Farrar noted that those officers who apply force while wearing a camera have always captured the incident on video.
As small as the cameras are, they seem to be noticeable to civilians, he said. "When you look at an officer," he said, "it kind of sticks out." Citizens have sometimes asked officers, "Hey, are you wearing a camera?" and the officers say they are, he reported.
But what about the privacy implications? Jay Stanley (http://www.aclu.org/blog/author/jay-stanley), a senior policy analyst at the American Civil Liberties Union (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/a/american_civil_liberties_union/index.html?inline=nyt-org), says: "We don't like the networks of police-run video cameras that are being set up in an increasing number of cities. We don't think the government should be watching over the population en masse." But requiring police officers to wear video cameras is different, he says: "When it comes to the citizenry watching the government, we like that."
Mr. Stanley says that all parties stand to benefit -- the public is protected from police misconduct, and officers are protected from bogus complaints. "There are many police officers who've had a cloud fall over them because of an unfounded accusation of abuse," he said. "Now police officers won't have to worry so much about that kind of thing."Not only should every police officer should be forced to wear one of these cameras, their videos should be freely uploaded for crowd-sourcing by the general public on YouTube. If privacy for the general public is a concern, they could blur people's faces a la` Google street view.
Police love to say if you're not doing anything wrong, what do you have to hide, yet all over the nation police unions virulently fight calls to force them to wear cameras.
Fact is, most cops have everything and more to hide.
Their job is to enforce criminally idiotic and anti-human laws written by criminal politicians, from the drug laws to thousands of idiotic regulations on the books, their job is no longer to arrest violent criminals and thieves but to aggress against non-violent, non-criminals -- which turns them into criminals themselves.
Rather than focus on fighting crime, the majority of the millionaire cop next door (http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0628/opinions-rich-karlgaard-digital-rules-millionaire-cop-next-door.html)'s work consists of extorting the general public for cash. For example, speed limits have been shown to have no effect on road safety (http://www.ibiblio.org/rdu/sl-irrel.html), yet when the speed limit is 65 instead of 55, revenue for cops drops dramatically, hence most places the speed limit is 55, of course the general public still drives 70 regardless.
Think for a minute how idiotic their speeding laws are. It's called a "speed limit," yet everyone drives over them by at least a few miles per hour, this turns everyone into a so-called "criminal." Police can then pull anyone over and shake them down for cash as a result, though because people get outraged and it makes the news if they ticket people for driving just a few mph over the limit, they generally only shake down people driving 10 mph and above over the limit. Hence the limits are set artificially low. Meanwhile, at the same time, almost every time you see a cop driving on the road they're speeding and weaving around like a lunatic. These are stupid, idiotic laws, but of course, they were not written to be rational and uphold order, they were written to extort the general public of their hard earned money.
Fact is, these days if any average person actually saw what the average cop does all day they'd be shocked and appalled. In fact, when they see glimpses of how police act when they're killing people's dogs and shooting unarmed woodcarvers they are shocked and appalled, they just don't realize these are not "isolated incidents" but instead the rule (http://www.informationliberation.com/index.php?category=Tyranny/Police%20State).
Hatha Sunahara
18th August 2013, 09:57 AM
I could have written the last four paragraphs above myself. In fact, I almost did yesterday in another thread. Here:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?71873-here-it-is-total-insanity&p=653618&viewfull=1#post653618
Hatha
Hitch
18th August 2013, 10:34 AM
THE Rialto study began in February 2012 and will run until this July. The results from the first 12 months are striking. Even with only half of the 54 uniformed patrol officers wearing cameras at any given time, the department over all had an 88 percent decline in the number of complaints filed against officers, compared with the 12 months before the study, to 3 from 24.
Mr. Stanley says that all parties stand to benefit -- the public is protected from police misconduct, and officers are protected from bogus complaints. "There are many police officers who've had a cloud fall over them because of an unfounded accusation of abuse," he said. "Now police officers won't have to worry so much about that kind of thing
Seems like everyone benefits from these cameras. Complaints dropped from 24 to 3, wow. That's great for the officers, lot's of bogus complaints, and folks are not going to file bogus complaints when they know everything is on camera.
Cebu_4_2
18th August 2013, 10:57 AM
Complaints dropped from 24 to 3, wow. That's great for the officers, lot's of bogus complaints, and folks are not going to file bogus complaints when they know everything is on camera.
That is so bogus and either you know it or are mentally challenged.
Hitch
18th August 2013, 11:15 AM
That is so bogus and either you know it or are mentally challenged.
You just posted that you treat others better in another thread. It's not bogus nor am I mentally challenged. Cops gets bogus complaints ALL the time. Look at the numbers dropped in this thread, 24 to 3. Cameras keep citizens honest too, works both ways.
Horn
18th August 2013, 11:29 AM
works both ways.
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collector
18th August 2013, 11:31 AM
I don't believe it's the citizens that created the" us vs them" mentality and I have a hard time believing that there's a whole bunch of bogus complaints being filed against good cops. I think the bogus complaint issue is being used to sell the idea of cameras to the cops - whatever it takes as far as I'm concerned. The huge drop in use of force by cops that are forced to wear cameras is a good indication of where the problem is and has always been
Spectrism
18th August 2013, 12:21 PM
You just posted that you treat others better in another thread. It's not bogus nor am I mentally challenged. Cops gets bogus complaints ALL the time. Look at the numbers dropped in this thread, 24 to 3. Cameras keep citizens honest too, works both ways.
Do you smoke bullshit too or just eat it, because your breath sure smells like it.
Hitch
18th August 2013, 12:49 PM
Do you smoke bullshit too or just eat it, because your breath sure smells like it.
I'm posting facts as I have seen and experienced. The only bullshit is what you seem to want to fling my direction.
The bottom line is cameras are a step in the right direction, for BOTH citizens and police.
Horn
18th August 2013, 12:58 PM
The bottom line is cameras are a step in the right direction, for BOTH citizens and police.
Let us join our hands this Sunday afternoon, and pray that this also deters many from even wanting to become Pigs in the first place...
as it is an unholy pursuit.
Hitch
18th August 2013, 01:16 PM
as it is an unacknowledged pursuit.
Fixed that for you, Horn.
Horn
18th August 2013, 01:22 PM
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give." ~ Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill?
Quotations: I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Sir Winston Churchill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIR6fw9-OFg
Twisted Titan
18th August 2013, 02:52 PM
And all of the videos are uploaded automatically to a central server that serves as a kind of digital evidence locker.*
Believe that bullsheet if you want to.
You will have as much success getting that video as you do getting police calls into dispatch.
It majically gets lost when their ass is on the line.
Spectrism
18th August 2013, 02:56 PM
I'm posting facts as I have seen and experienced. The only bullshit is what you seem to want to fling my direction.
The bottom line is cameras are a step in the right direction, for BOTH citizens and police.
Your primary expectation was that complaints went down when cops began wearing cameras because they keep the false complaints from citizens down. Huh? If you really believe that, you are severely deceived.
Ever watch the show "Cops"? Of course those are cherry picked filmings to keep the cops in a good light, but even what you can see should raise your awareness. People are generally too stupid to change their behavior even in front of bright camera lights. The cops, however, are trained and prepared for this public appearance. I have seen numerous unwarranted pullovers with cops bullying a search. Stupid people consent even knowing they have drugs. I have NO doubt that more brutal tactics are used by the cops when there are no cameras.
The job of cops and cameras is NOT to "keep citizens honest". Your programming by the thought police training of this corrupt society is evident. Cops can only enforce laws when they are broken. A cop thinking he is to stop crime before it happens combined with a mentality that all citizens are suspects of possible crimes is a deadly combination.
Hitch
18th August 2013, 03:34 PM
Your primary expectation was that complaints went down when cops began wearing cameras because they keep the false complaints from citizens down. Huh? If you really believe that, you are severely deceived.
A cop thinking he is to stop crime before it happens combined with a mentality that all citizens are suspects of possible crimes is a deadly combination.
It's not about stopping crimes before they happen, it's more about stopping crimes in progress, currently happening.
I think it's the general public that's deceived. Same thing about the agenda to promote a race war, it's by design. They want folks scared and hateful of the police. You would not believe the amount of ethical tests and days upon days of training that police go through, just on ethics. At least from my experience, and I saw not one abuse of force by any officer I served with, not one. Though many of them had bogus complaints where citizen's lied about what happened. I've seen it firsthand. Calling me deceived isn't good enough, isn't truthful, but sure looks good on an internet forum.
Cebu_4_2
18th August 2013, 03:44 PM
Shall we derail my thread with some fine examples of Solids friends?
Here ya go Pete, here are your ethics:
http://youtu.be/NmVTVRWf7yA
http://youtu.be/_Tb2HCC5_58
http://youtu.be/_TPucQHtHZs
Spectrism
18th August 2013, 03:46 PM
It's not about stopping crimes before they happen, it's more about stopping crimes in progress, currently happening.
I think it's the general public that's deceived. Same thing about the agenda to promote a race war, it's by design. They want folks scared and hateful of the police. You would not believe the amount of ethical tests and days upon days of training that police go through, just on ethics. At least from my experience, and I saw not one abuse of force by any officer I served with, not one. Though many of them had bogus complaints where citizen's lied about what happened. I've seen it firsthand. Calling me deceived isn't good enough, isn't truthful, but sure looks good on an internet forum.
Well, "they" are sure being successful. I see an increasing threat of ghetto-minded blacks attacking whites (and always blacks in reach). And cops are to be feared more than wanted. When I see a cop now, I see and armed thug ready to shoot because he is afraid of anyone and everyone. They think they have authority to push people around. They are lying hypocrites. They will fly by me on the highway well in excess of 80mph and ticket people when they are given quotas or have nothing else to do.
Most cops I know or have encountered have been decent. All it takes is 1 bad apple in 100 to destroy any respect. I would figure that I probably have encountered 2 or 3 bad apples. Good cops I have known? 8 or 9. I think there is a long way to go for me to trust them as a group.... and shame on me if I ever give any group blind trust.
Cebu_4_2
18th August 2013, 03:53 PM
I was arrested for walking legally down a road, handcuffed and placed in the back seat, then he punched me in the mouth later requiring several root canals. No charges filed or brought up. Because I was just walking down a road by my house.
Yeah I feel safer.
And another time I was talking with an officer inside my house through the door and the big guy reached inside and pulled me out and slammed my head into a brick wall several times. Good thing he didn't frisk me cause I was packing. He told me I was lucky he didn't "smoke me" and thats without knowing I had a pistol on me.
I have this one recorded but didn't file charges against them. I gave up the battle and moved the fuck outta dodge.
Hitch
18th August 2013, 04:06 PM
Yeah 1 bad apple can cause a lot of damage. People always remember their encounters with cops, bad, and the good things. I still remember throwing a party when I was 16 and my parents left home. The cops were called. The cop asked if I had been drinking, I said yes, and he said "I did that when I was your age too. Just keep it quiet and be safe." I still remember that cop and how cool he was. Same thing about another cop when I was on the fire dept. We responded to a suicide. A cop had gotten there first, cut the guy down (he hung himself), dragged the guy outside and started cpr. That was a bad-ass thing to do, above and beyond what most cops would have done. I always remember that cop because later when I signed up, I vowed I would do the same thing he did, if I got there first.
So, anyway, when folks have a bad encounter with a real prick of a cop, I understand how much it makes a lasting impression. I'd also say, regarding trust, never to trust cops. You've got to earn trust, a cop can not do that instantly. Furthermore, a lot of trust is already implied. Cops go into folks homes, searching for burglars, or taking reports, etc. There's a lot of trust that the public has to ask for of cops, it's important to understand that.
Horn
18th August 2013, 04:15 PM
Oh the stories I have with Entrapment Force.
As a kid with wheels they would know where all the large parties were happening and would wait and pick off the party goers one by one as they exited.
I remembering being called a "real animal" over the radio for simply being the raging young buck I was.
Most are pissed off jealous types that got confused morally at some point in their progression, then did an about face.
Spectrism
18th August 2013, 04:16 PM
If there was a burglar in my home or in my yard, the last thing I would do is call the cops. They are more likely to come and shoot me.
If a cop assaults me, I have no immediate recourse. For me to fight back escalates into more of his gang with more guns coming after me. If a cop violates me, he will disappear. If a cop violates my family he will have an accident. I don't even have to do anything. I have had bad experiences with all sorts of people. Many have had accidents or done stupid things and came to bad ends. Those who changed their ways did alright. While I can fight for myself there is a supernatural agency taking care of my business as long as I keep within the boundary set.
Those who are entrusted to uphold the law are given special sanction to do what they must. When they step outside their authority, they are inviting the wrath of God on themselves. We are building up to a point of widespread wrath being poured out on this land.
Cebu_4_2
18th August 2013, 04:33 PM
Any cops younger than 40 are bad news, any older are usually decent. Just look at the videos.
Hitch
18th August 2013, 05:01 PM
Those who are entrusted to uphold the law are given special sanction to do what they must. When they step outside their authority, they are inviting the wrath of God on themselves. We are building up to a point of widespread wrath being poured out on this land.
The reason why is that our constitution has been flushed down the toilet. It's not upheld anymore. Look at everything going on right now, gun grabbing, unlawful search and seizure, martial law, spying on citizens, drones, chemtrails.
Police state is the wrong term. Police should follow their oath and uphold the constitution. It's a Gov state of tyranny is what is happening here.
Cebu_4_2
18th August 2013, 05:07 PM
But but but you said:
Cops gets bogus complaints ALL the time. Look at the numbers dropped in this thread, 24 to 3. Cameras keep citizens honest too, works both ways.
Hitch
18th August 2013, 06:50 PM
But but but you said:
I did say that, what is your point? If you want to slap a badge on me, tell me, Hitch, uphold the constitution.
Say I do that, uphold the constitution and some assholes get their feelings hurt. You think any bogus complaints I should give any shit about them?
Please explain your thought process here.
Cebu_4_2
18th August 2013, 09:02 PM
Say I do that, uphold the constitution and some assholes get their feelings hurt. You think any bogus complaints I should give any shit about them?
So you would just assassinate them for your liking of your interpretation of the constitution? You're a spooky guy Pete.
You want it both ways which is NOT constitutional or right.
You drinkin again? Lets go to the "THUNDERDOME" biatch.
Hitch
18th August 2013, 09:18 PM
So you would just assassinate them for your liking of your interpretation of the constitution? You're a spooky guy Pete.
You want it both ways which is NOT constitutional or right.
You drinkin again? Lets go to the "THUNDERDOME" biatch.
Lol. Cebu, I like you, and you contributions to this forum. I might go for a drink actually, my testosterone is flowing high at the moment....
I stand by the constitution. I hope that answers your question. Our future, depends upon the constitution, as written, imo
Cebu_4_2
18th August 2013, 09:30 PM
What about the bill of rights? Ever read that one?
Testosterone level high... keep that thing flowing at least 2x a week to flush out the acid and you wont get prostate problems..
Look up the statistics of men who flush it regularly vs ones set in their ways and don't use it.
Other than that it's not usually a good idea to go drinking when levels are high.
Serpo
18th August 2013, 09:37 PM
You drinkin again? Lets go to the "THUNDERDOME" biatch.
If ya both wear cameras ,can we watch.....................
Hitch
18th August 2013, 10:05 PM
What about the bill of rights? Ever read that one?
Testosterone level high... keep that thing flowing at least 2x a week to flush out the acid and you wont get prostate problems..
Look up the statistics of men who flush it regularly vs ones set in their ways and don't use it.
Other than that it's not usually a good idea to go drinking when levels are high.
two fingers of scotch is quite nice.
To answer you, WTF are you talking about? Your whole post is full of gibberish.
What question do you want to ask me? and can you ask that in a normal way?
Horn
19th August 2013, 12:57 AM
The reason why is that our constitution has been flushed down the toilet. It's not upheld anymore. Look at everything going on right now, gun grabbing, unlawful search and seizure, martial law, spying on citizens, drones, chemtrails.
Police state is the wrong term. Police should follow their oath and uphold the constitution. It's a Gov state of tyranny is what is happening here.
There were no police when the Constitution was written, the reason why it has been flushed down the toilet is because POLICE have been formed as a proxy department to the peoples own powers. They've been DIVORCED from their Constitution by the POLICE.
Police work is often lionized by jurists and scholars who claim to employ "textualist" and "originalist" methods of constitutional interpretation. Yet professional police were unknown to the United States in 1789, and first appeared in America almost a half-century after the Constitution's ratification. The Framers contemplated law enforcement as the duty of mostly private citizens, along with a few constables and sheriffs who could be called upon when necessary. This article marshals extensive historical and legal evidence to show that modern policing is in many ways inconsistent with the original intent of America's founding documents. The author argues that the growth of modern policing has substantially empowered the state in a way the Framers would regard as abhorrent to their foremost principles.
http://constitution.org/lrev/roots/cops.htm
Spectrism
19th August 2013, 05:05 AM
We have a federalist government under which the states acquiesce for nearly everything. In that powerful national government we long ago destroyed the concept of balance of powers with shared responsibilities and authorities as the global controllers have usurped every institution in Amerika. There is no longer a congress with power over spending and declaring war. There is no indepenednet and righteous supreme court to rule on lawfulness since they disregard true law in favor of the political expedient assigned them. The states are about all infiltrated with communist/fascist tools to execute the directions from on high while trampling the rights and liberties of the citizens.
So tell me Hitch- how is a police force protecting the constitution while it executes the will of the corrupt state?
Spectrism
19th August 2013, 05:23 AM
Let's take a look at power.
Here we have a fireman riding a bike and a police officer thinks the guy flashed him the middle finger. For that, the cop throws the fireman on the ground and handcuffs him.
So, even if the fireman did wave a middle finger (which I think not), is that a crime? So, if the fireman is innocent, how does he resist this abusive cop? On the spot, he is helpless by today's rules to do anything without a gang of thugs coming after him with guns drawn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdsQlSF4Ox8
Hitch
19th August 2013, 07:20 AM
So tell me Hitch- how is a police force protecting the constitution while it executes the will of the corrupt state?
Tough question to tackle, but at an individual level, it's the difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. Police, themselves, do not write the tyrannical laws that trample the rights and liberties of the citizens. You are right though, police are to enforce them, or not.
There's already cops in Wyoming that refuse to enforce any gun laws that go against the 2nd amendment. JDrock posted about that awhile back.
This is where ethics and morality, and common sense, are needed by our police. Police are local to a certain area. The umbrella of big gov covers the whole nation. Each city, each police beat has unique circumstances and challenges that should be decided locally.
A perfect example of this is not arresting folks with marijuana. If they had a med card, no problem, it's legal locally but illegal in fed law. Local law trumps fed law. Even if they didn't have a card, at worst they might get a citation.
Horn
19th August 2013, 08:09 AM
it's legal locally but illegal in fed law.
Sounds like a prescription is for the worst of kind of Anarchy.
Police departments have become equipped to the point they are standing armies on U.S. soil.
Hitch
19th August 2013, 08:26 AM
Sounds like a prescription is for the worst of kind of Anarchy.
Police departments have become equipped to the point they are standing armies on U.S. soil.
This is why we have the constitution Horn!
We can keep going in circles with this discussion if you like.
Horn
19th August 2013, 08:36 AM
This is why we have the constitution Horn!
We can keep going in circles with this discussion if you like.
There are no circles here, the police have no right to usurp the peoples power away from them, and be the chosen decider/enforcers.
A delegated "constitutional officer" is directly opposed to the Constitution itself.
Take your English pigdog's quoted signature, and be on your opposed direction, Hitcher.
EE_
19th August 2013, 08:53 AM
Coming to America
AMBUSH: Militants kill 25 Egyptian police in Sinai
Aug 19, 3:24 AM (ET)
By ASHRAF SWEILAM
EL-ARISH, Egypt (AP) - Suspected militants on Monday ambushed two mini-buses carrying off-duty policemen in Egypt's northern Sinai, killing 25 of them execution-style and wounding two, security officials said.
The militants forced the two vehicles to stop, ordered the policemen out and forced them to lie on the ground before they shot them to death, the officials said.
The policemen were in civilian clothes, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity as they were not authorized to talk to the media. The killings took place near the border town of Rafah.
There was initial confusion over how the ambush had happened, and the officials at first said the policemen were killed when the militants fired rocket-propelled grenades at the two minibuses.
But confusion over details in the immediate aftermath of such incidents is common. Egyptian state television also reported that the men were killed execution-style.
Sinai has been witnessing almost daily attacks targeting security forces by suspected militants since the July 3 ouster of Islamist President Mohammed Morsi in a military coup. The strategic region borders the Gaza Strip and Israel.
Egypt's military and security forces have been engaged in a long battle against militants in the northern half of the peninsula. Militants and tribesmen have used the area for smuggling and other criminal activity for years. Militants have fired rockets into Israel and staged other cross-border attacks there on previous occasions.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130819/DA88SGFG1.html
Horn
19th August 2013, 09:04 AM
Militants and tribesmen have used the area for smuggling and other criminal activity for years. Militants have fired rockets into Israel and staged other cross-border attacks there on previous occasions.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130819/DA88SGFG1.html
"Smuggling" in this context also known as tax free, and beyond reproach from those same police profiteers.
Guess they'll no longer be needing them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyxcFzVmtgg
Son-of-Liberty
19th August 2013, 09:13 AM
"Smuggling" in this context also known as tax free, and beyond reproach from those same police profiteers.
Guess they'll no longer be needing them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyxcFzVmtgg
Who knows what actually happened. The part about the smuggling added in at the end is just propaganda directed towards the average reader. Implying that the group that killed the cops are common criminals even though there is no proof. Perhaps some of those cops killed someones brother or raped someones daughter and the killing was vengeance? They don't want the reader to get that idea so they direct with implications that those responsible are criminals or terrorists.
Hitch
19th August 2013, 09:15 AM
A delegated "constitutional officer" is directly opposed to the Constitution itself.
Take your English pigdog's quoted signature, and be on your opposed direction, Hitcher.
The constitution was ahead of it's time. I'm glad we have it and it's worth defending. It's what protects people like me from people like you.
Horn
19th August 2013, 09:17 AM
Perhaps some of those cops killed someones brother or raped someones daughter and the killing was vengeance?
Or trying to enforce a new "free trade" agreement of their own.
With dough for the new police academy worked into the bank's loan budgeting and target reports, of course.
Horn
19th August 2013, 09:25 AM
It's what protects people like me from people like you.
Never let them smell your fear, Hitcher.
That's when they'll strike, as they see nothing else.
Where's dogboy when you need him?
Cebu_4_2
19th August 2013, 10:18 AM
Where's dogboy when you need him?
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