4 Reasons Why You Won’t Survive Bugging Out to the Woods

[singular_me]

just saw this on beforeitsnews. we are prepared for this ultimate U-turn but after scanning through this article, I found that it raises daunting questions
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So you think you are going to run for the hills and bug out to the woods, well after reading this excellent article by ready4itall.org you might want to reconsider your decision. Bugging out should be your last resort, and when you do finally decide that it is time to bug out you should have a well prepared plan. So check out the article below and let me know your thoughts on our Facebook Page.

The Top 4 Reasons Why You’re Not Going to Survive Bugging Out to the Woods



1. Whose land do you think you’re going to bug out to?
2. There are VERY few people who have the skills to survive in the wild
3. It seems like EVERYONE is planning heading to the hills when SHTF. What makes you so special?
4. You’re not giving animals nearly enough credit …and humans are greedy

full article
http://ready4itall.org/the-top-4-reasons-why-youre-not-going-to-survive-bugging-out-to-the-woods/

[milehi]

Flatlanders can't handle the forest in fair weather, never mind when things go south. When I'm down the hill at work, my biggest fear is not being able to get back up the hill. I don't want my nieghbors to think I'm an outsider.

[mamboni]

Yep! I've always wondered about the same exact things vis-a-vis bugging out. The best chance you'll have is staying on the home base, where all of your provisions, tools, weapons and the like are. If your home base is in a 'disadvantaged' location such as an urban area, you need to relocate to a rural location now. I live on ten acres and would have no problem allowing "bugger-outers" to stay on my land. But frankly, there's not enough to live off of. And there's the small matter of bears and coyotes that frequent the property.

[chad]

yep, this is why, like the doc, i live at the bug out location. luckily i have a big spring fed pond.

[sirgonzo420]

Yep! I've always wondered about the same exact things vis-a-vis bugging out. The best chance you'll have is staying on the home base, where all of your provisions, tools, weapons and the like are. If your home base is in a 'disadvantaged' location such as an urban area, you need to relocate to a rural location now. I live on ten acres and would have no problem allowing "bugger-outers" to stay on my land. But frankly, there's not enough to live off of. And there's the small matter of bears and coyotes that frequent the property.


Sounds like bear and coyote soup will be on the menu at Doc's house.

[General of Darkness]

I've got a bug in plan. Plus I'm an 1/8 of a mile from the fire roads that can take me into Mount Wilson if need be.

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3563/d49p.jpg

[midnight rambler]

Bugging out = becoming a refugee (unless one already had an adequate place with shelter and provisions one is bugging out to). Bugging out means light and fast, and must include traveling on foot.

[Hitch]

Sounds like bear and coyote soup will be on the menu at Doc's house.

For a change in the menu, head my direction. I'll be eating sea lion. There will be plenty to share with any folks who bug out.

[Ponce]

Well, I live at my "bug out" location....to damn old to run and hide....have water and wood and places to hide and my home will be able to defend itseld if I am killed.....they will walk in but will be ????? out.....

V

[mamboni]

For a change in the menu, head my direction. I'll be eating sea lion. There will be plenty to share with any folks who bug out.

Have you cleared this with the sea lions?

[Hitch]

Have you cleared this with the sea lions?

The sea lions are protected, marine mammal protection act. I think this is why they are so obnoxious and impolite to others. In the event where people are starving, I think we could justify having a luau on the beach with a sea lion. All are invited. :)

[mamboni]

The sea lions are protected, marine mammal protection act. I think this is why they are so obnoxious and impolite to others. In the event where people are starving, I think we could justify having a luau on the beach with a sea lion. All are invited. :)

A similar phenomenon affects certain human minority groups.

[JDRock]

the REAL 4 reasons; You were in the wrong place when sthtf. 2, you were in the wrong place when tshtf, 3, you were in the wrong place when tshtf and finally the 4th reason- you were in the wrong fvkin place! geography is the FIRST not the last consideration in survival. i laugh at these armchair warriors living in city/ suburban areas thinking they will be able to reach a safe place....REALLY? i mean REEEAAALY? If your not where your safe to begin with, all your preps are altogether more than useless.

[midnight rambler]

the REAL 4 reasons; You were in the wrong place when sthtf. 2, you were in the wrong place when tshtf, 3, you were in the wrong place when tshtf and finally the 4th reason- you were in the wrong fvkin place! geography is the FIRST not the last consideration in survival. i laugh at these armchair warriors living in city/ suburban areas thinking they will be able to reach a safe place....REALLY? i mean REEEAAALY? If your not where your safe to begin with, all your preps are altogether more than useless.

In this current state of economic warfare being waged against us it's not possible for most to meet their family obligations (i.e. provide for their family) while living in the boondocks. I suggest before you condemn others* that you walk a mile in their shoes. (*and this coming from someone who embraces a meme projected by a mega insurance company - oh the irony lol)

[Twisted Titan]

QFT ......MR


Alot of people wake up way late in the 4th quarter and if you have fam y it has just been compounded by a factor of 10.

For them unless a winning lottery ticket comes blowing down the street.

Their current residence is The Alamo.

Just do the best you can with what you got and pray that you happen to be on the right side when the hammer falls

[General of Darkness]

QFT ......MR


Alot of people wake up way late in the 4th quarter and if you have fam y it has just been compounded by a factor of 10.

For them unless a winning lottery ticket comes blowing down the street.

Their current residence is The Alamo.

Just do the best you can with what you got and pray that you happen to be on the right side when the hammer falls

Good point.

This is why I'm working on my preps for bugging in.

[ImaCannin]

If I were to bug out, who would carry the couch I would be laying on while I am eating Bon Bons?

[Libertytree]

NO ONE can plan and be prepared for everything but I think staying where you are is preferable to buggin out because it is a known factor, taking yourself into the vast unknown is a prescription for trouble. If you have a place to go and time to get there then that's a different story. Hindsight is always 20-20, staying put, even in the best SHTF locale may be the worst place to be, ya just never know till then.

[Shami-Amourae]

I'm already Bugged In in a Mormon community. Problem solved.

[midnight rambler]

I'm already Bugged In in a Mormon community. Problem solved.

Be advised, if you ain't LDS then you're an outsider. They may be friendly now, but...

If those Mormons ever find out what you do for a revenue stream I'm betting they're gonna burn you at the stake. lol

[General of Darkness]

If those Mormons ever find out what you do for a revenue stream I'm betting they're gonna burn you at the stake. lol

Or at the least put him on a spike.

http://static.thecia.com.au/reviews/v/vlad-the-impaler-4.jpg

[Libertytree]

I'm already Bugged In in a Mormon community. Problem solved.

It might be a good idea to set yourself up with another identity online, like maybe a Shami-ministry of sorts.

[ImaCannin]

I'm already Bugged In in a Mormon community. Problem solved.

You may want to invest in some Jesus Jammies...... just so you fit in.....
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5871399168/hA56F1A60/

[Shami-Amourae]

Umm you guys don't get it. I'm prepped for a bug in scenario. I'm saying Mormon communities probably wont break down like other communities will. They have 2 years of food storage typically. If you're plan is to bug in, your biggest threat in a collapse scenario is other people.

[Shami-Amourae]

It might be a good idea to set yourself up with another identity online, like maybe a Shami-ministry of sorts.

I used to run a fake Christian website that got millions of hits for several years. It was a satire though.

[Norweger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq0rZn8HFmQ

[Hitch]

You may want to invest in some Jesus Jammies...... just so you fit in.....
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5871399168/hA56F1A60/

Is that Glenn Beck or the General?

[Libertytree]

That's a low blow Hitch, you should apologize cause that's just wrong!

[General of Darkness]

That's a low blow Hitch, you should apologize cause that's just wrong!

Thanks LT. I know Pete is just fucking around, but if Beck and I were to have a live conversation about him blowing the zionist I think this would probably happen.

I'd end up like this.

http://pendleton-gazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Arrest.jpg

And Beck's head would explode.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m503/pullingmyselfup/exploding_head_3.jpg

[midnight rambler]

Umm you guys don't get it. I'm prepped for a bug in scenario. I'm saying Mormon communities probably wont break down like other communities will. They have 2 years of food storage typically. If you're plan is to bug in, your biggest threat in a collapse scenario is other people.

True enough, but since you're not LDS in LDS country you're STILL an outsider, which means YOU are on the OUTSIDE. If you don't address that very real component of the dynamics of your LDS community I think you're likely to be in for a nasty surprise. jmo

[Hitch]

Thanks LT. I know Pete is just fucking around, but if Beck and I were to have a live conversation about...
And Beck's head would explode.]

Heck General, I would pay money to see you and beck argue. You would make his head explode...and I mean that in a good way. Glad you know I was just joking around with that last comment.

[gunDriller]

True enough, but since you're not LDS in LDS country you're STILL an outsider, which means YOU are on the OUTSIDE. If you don't address that very real component of the dynamics of your LDS community I think you're likely to be in for a nasty surprise. jmo

i've bought grain from one of the more established older farmers in one of the Idaho Mormon communities.

among other things, one of the details about his farm - he has a 100,000 diesel tank.

i don't know why, but in my mind that has a stabilizing effect.

also, they didn't treat me like an outsider. i just bought grain, corn, & pinto beans from him in buckets.


personally, i find their lifestyle appealing. it reminds me of the Amish. their food prep habits are very wise.

[General of Darkness]

i've bought grain from one of the more established older farmers in one of the Idaho Mormon communities.

among other things, one of the details about his farm - he has a 100,000 diesel tank.

i don't know why, but in my mind that has a stabilizing effect.

also, they didn't treat me like an outsider. i just bought grain, corn, & pinto beans from him in buckets.


personally, i find their lifestyle appealing. it reminds me of the Amish. their food prep habits are very wise.

You know what's crazy GD is that when I was growing up in commie Yugoslavia it was pretty much that way. Now everyone has left the farms and moved to the cities and I bet you could buy 100's of excellent acres of farm land that gets excellent natural rain fall and have a great life for pennies on the dollar.

[palani]

he has a 100,000 diesel tank.

The newest formulations of diesel have a problem developing fungus. With my 500 gallon tank I had no problem keeping the old formulation in condition for 5-6 years (really light usage here of late) but right now the tank sits empty. I guess once fungus infects a tractor fuel system it can cause some problems with injectors.

Years back John Deere was coming out with an injection system that was said to operate at 25,000 psig. I suppose this pressure would have no problem dealing with fungus.

[Hitch]

The newest formulations of diesel have a problem developing fungus. With my 500 gallon tank I had no problem keeping the old formulation in condition for 5-6 years (really light usage here of late) but right now the tank sits empty. I guess once fungus infects a tractor fuel system it can cause some problems with injectors.

Years back John Deere was coming out with an injection system that was said to operate at 25,000 psig. I suppose this pressure would have no problem dealing with fungus.

Add biocide to your diesel. Keep the tank full so condensation doesn't add water for the fungus to live. Full tank, and biocide, diesel should stay good for a long time.

[midnight rambler]

Best diesel additives, use in the beginning of your storage -

http://www.powerservice.com/cd/

http://www.powerservice.com/bk/

[gunDriller]

i was thinking of

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/AP100622139929.jpg

as the Fungus Among Us.

[gunDriller]

If those Mormons ever find out what you do for a revenue stream I'm betting they're gonna burn you at the stake. lol

they're human.

some will be asking for discount coupons.

others will be offering jars of canned zucchini in exchange for membership.

[mick silver]

bugging out not easy , and most will not be able to do it . i have been on my land for over 8 years now and everyday it gets harder not easer like most here would think . the days are long and im never short of things to do are fix . we been canning for over two weeks now and digging tators . it no party trying to live off the land . well it time to get back at it . here the kicker i have been told by people i know that they will come to my place if something was to happen i have news for them it not going to happen , just were are they as i work my ass off . this will be a fight for life . most are too fucking lazy to walk outside and mow there yards

[JDRock]

In this current state of economic warfare being waged against us it's not possible for most to meet their family obligations (i.e. provide for their family) while living in the boondocks. I suggest before you condemn others* that you walk a mile in their shoes. (*and this coming from someone who embraces a meme projected by a mega insurance company - oh the irony lol)

i didnt say boondocks, what point i made and still hold firm is, get the hell out of the cities and suburban areas asap. even if it means driving an hour to work. geography is the first, not the last consideration to make in a shtf scenario. ...imagine a general stationing his troops in the open among the enemy...easy targets just so the supply trucks can reach them easier?? We are the generals of our families...i left the cities decades ago and lived hand to mouth for years, now my grown sons thank me and wouldnt think of moving back.

[madfranks]

If I need to bug out, I'm just going to Mick Silver's house. :D

[mick silver]

mad by now you should know that if something big was to take place , their not going to let people leave the citys and towns , plus if you would have to travel thought alot of places were people will not like you and the ones with you . most places i could see having arm group of there own moving around and stopping people from taking what they have .