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Large Sarge
22nd August 2013, 01:27 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-22/american-israeli-and-jordanian-troops-and-cia-agents-have-entered-syria-le-figaro-re

General of Darkness
22nd August 2013, 01:35 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-22/american-israeli-and-jordanian-troops-and-cia-agents-have-entered-syria-le-figaro-re

LS stop being a lazy fuck and post the articles.

Serpo
22nd August 2013, 01:38 PM
American, Israeli And Jordanian Troops And CIA Agents Have Entered Syria, Le Figaro Reports

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Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 08/22/2013 16:22 -0400



We have yet to see secondary confirmation of the following breaking news from the second largest French newspaper, Le Figaro, but if accurate, it means the Nobel Peace Prize winning president has just engaged in yet another unsanctioned by Congress war.
From Le Figaro (http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2013/08/22/01003-20130822ARTFIG00438-syrie-l-operation-anti-assad-a-commence.php), google translated (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lefigaro.fr%2Finternational%2F2 013%2F08%2F22%2F01003-20130822ARTFIG00438-syrie-l-operation-anti-assad-a-commence.php):
According to our information, the regime's opponents, supervised by Jordanian, Israeli and American commandos moving towards Damascus since mid-August. This attack could explain the possible use of the Syrian president to chemical weapons.

According to information obtained by Le Figaro , the first trained in guerrilla warfare by the Americans in Jordan Syrian troops reportedly entered into action since mid-August in southern Syria, in the region of Deraa. A first group of 300 men, probably supported by Israeli and Jordanian commandos, as well as men of the CIA, had crossed the border on August 17. A second would have joined the 19. According to military sources, the Americans, who do not want to put troops on the Syrian soil or arming rebels in part controlled by radical Islamists form quietly for several months in a training camp set up at the border Jordanian- Syrian fighters ASL, the Free Syrian Army, handpicked.

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According to this expert on the region, the idea proposed by Washington would be the possible establishment of a buffer zone from the south of Syria, or even a no-fly zone, which would cause opponents safely until the balance of power changes. This is the reason why the United States has deployed Patriot batteries and F16 in late June Jordan.

More here (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lefigaro.fr%2Finternational%2F2 013%2F08%2F22%2F01003-20130822ARTFIG00438-syrie-l-operation-anti-assad-a-commence.php).
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Why is the US, or rather Federal Reserve, desperate for a war with Syria? It was all explained previously here (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-18/us-prepares-kinetic-strikes-against-syria), but here is the one chart that matters.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/07/defense%20spending.jpg
In brief: to allow the Untaper once the Taper ends, the US needs to find much more deficit funding needs, and as always there is no place better to achieve this than to spike the contracting spending budget by engaging in war.
And now, the ball is in Putin's court.

Serpo
22nd August 2013, 01:45 PM
US Prepares For "Kinetic Strikes" Against Syria

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Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 07/18/2013 13:10 -0400






The chart below will likely come as a surprise to most. It shows total nominal US defense spending, more importantly it shows that such spending has been rapidly declining since 2010. And while on the surface it is great news the US is becoming more "pacifist" (apparently mass killings using drones are relatively cost-effective) and the result for the US is even better as it means lower deficits, there is one person who is very unhappy with this outcome - Ben Bernanke.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/07/defense%20spending.jpg
Why is Ben unhappy? Simple - as a reminder, the only reason Ben is even contemplating tapering has nothing to do with the economy. After all the Fed chairman (and/or his successor) is willing to send the stock market into stratospheric overdrive and would be very happy to add not subtract from the monthly QE $85 billion notional since it means more "wealth effect" and thus brings the US closer to the "Keynesian successful endgame" (that the logic here is completely inverted is well known to all but the most die-hard Keynesian fanboys and is not in the scope of this article).
However, the fact that the gross US debt issuance is declining (if only until the demographic and healthcare crunch hits in 2015 and deficits explode once more) means Bernanke has less primary issuance to monetize. Were Bernanke to maintain his monetization run rate into a lower deficit regime, the Chairman would destabilize the liquidity in the already increasingly illiquid Treasury market in which the Fed now holds over 30% (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-23/moment-ben-bernanke-own-305-us-treasury-market-and-will-own-all-2018)of all 10 Year equivalents and its holdings increase by 0.3% every week. This illiquidity is manifesting itself most directly in the "special" repo rates that have become a norm in the past few months especially in the 10 Year, and which indicate an ongoing shortage of TSY collateral.
Of course, there is a very simple and elegant solution to declining defense spending, one which has been used time and again in US history when the US government needed to provide the Fed with more securities (i.e. deficit) to monetize: war.
According to RT that, or rather its more politically correct equivalent "kinetic strikes", is what may be just over the horizon. RT reports that (http://rt.com/usa/dempsey-syria-us-assad-268/)President Barack Obama is considering using military force in Syria, and the Pentagon has prepared various scenarios for possible United States intervention. Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the Obama administration is deliberating whether or not it should use the brute of the US military in Syria during a Thursday morning Senate hearing. Gen. Dempsey said the administration was considering using “kinetic strikes” in Syria and said "issue is under deliberation inside of our agencies of government,” the Associated Press reported from Washington.


Dempsey, 61, is the highest ranking officer in the US military and has been nominated by Pres. Obama to serve a second term in that role. The Senate Armed Services Committee questioned him Thursday morning as part of the nominating process when Dempsey briefly discussed the situation in Syria.

The pre-story here is well-known to most: in a repeat fabulation of the Iraq "WMD" lie, the US and the entire developed world "found" Syria to have crossed a red-line when it used chemical weapons, despite subsequent reports that it was the Syrian rebels, aka Qatari mercenaries, who were the party responsible for chemical weapon use. No matter though: the public media campaign was hatched, and merely waited for the catalyst.
That catalyst may be imminent, although there is a substantial dose of skepticism this time around:


Pres. Obama said previously that the use of chemical weapons would cross a “red line” and likely trigger American intervention. When the White House concluded Assad had relied on chemical warfare, Rhodes said, “both the political and the military opposition . . . is and will be receiving US assistance."

That claim was met with skepticism, though. The Syrian Foreign Ministry called Obama’s claims a “caravan of lies.” Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s ambassador to the United Nations, later presented to the UN evidence supplied to his government that suggested the Syrian opposition fighters used chemical weapons.

With regards to foreign intervention, UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon said, “Providing arms to either side would not address this current situation.” Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) and his father, former congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) have also cautioned the White House against aiding Syrian rebels.

“You will be funding today the allies of al Qaeda” by aiding Syrian rebels, Sen. Paul said in May.

On his part, the retired lawmaker from Texas insisted that the administration’s lead up to possible intervention is “identical to the massive deception campaign that led us into the Iraq War.”

That isn’t to say the GOP is entirely opposed to taking any action. Although directly using the American military — either through boots-on-the-ground or unmanned aircraft — has been rarely discussed in public, Sens. John McCain (R-Arizona) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC), two long-time leaders within the Republican party, have been relentless with efforts to equip opposition fighters.

"I don't care what it takes," Graham told Foreign Policy’s The Cable earlier this year. "If the choice is to send in troops to secure the weapons sites versus allowing chemical weapons to get in the hands of some of the most violent people in the world, I vote to cut this off before it becomes a problem."

Other US officials have previously said Washington is considering implementing a no-fly zone above Syria, and last month the Pentagon left a fleet of F-16 fighter planes and its Patriot anti-missile system on the border of neighboring Jordan following a routine military drill.

And from the AP (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/dempsey-says-us-considering-use-force-syria):


Amid an increasing clamor among President Bashir Assad's opposition for active U.S. involvement, Army Gen. Martin Dempsey said during congressional testimony that he has provided President Barack Obama with options for the use of force. But he declined to detail those choices, saying "it would be inappropriate for me to try to influence the decision with me rendering an opinion in public about what kind of force we should use."

The remarks by the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman came after Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., asked him which approach in Syria would carry a greater risk: continued limited action on the part of Washington or more significant actions such as the establishment of a no-fly zone and arming the rebel forces with the weapons they need to stem the advance Assad's forces.

"Senator, I am in favor of building a moderate opposition and supporting it," Dempsey said. "The question whether to support it with direct kinetic strikes ... is a decision for our elected officials, not for the senior military leader of the nation."

The use of kinetic strikes, a military term that typically refers to missiles and bombs, "is under deliberation inside of our agencies of government," Dempsey said.

"There are a whole range of options that are out there," Navy Adm. James Winnefeld, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs, said of the planning for military action in Syria. "We are ready to act if we're called on to act."

All of the above, of course, is smoke and mirrors. The ultimate decision will come not from Congress but from the Fed.
So what may have spooked Bernanke and the sudden reappearance of the Syrian war as a real and credible possibility?
Why, the economy of course. Only not its "improvement" but its recent (and ongoing) deterioration.
And since the taper is largely priced in, Bernanke is already contemplating how to reengage in the subsequent untapering should all hell break loose following a September tapering announcement prompting the Fed to reengage once more. However, for that to happen, US deficits would need to flow once more, as only then will there be the much needed copious primary issuance of debt that the Fed will need in order to resume monetizing at a fervent pace without impairing the liquidity characteristics of the bond market.
As for the downside? What are some irrelevant Syrian lives in the grand scheme of things, when the status quo's wealth must be preserved at all costs. Costs including the death of thousands of innocent civilian Syrians and/or other nationalities should the conflict just happen to spill outside the Syrian borders.
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Serpo
22nd August 2013, 03:22 PM
http://rense.com/1.imagesH/kahal.jpg

Ponce
22nd August 2013, 03:43 PM
So where are the Russians?......have they said anything yet........Come onnnnnnnn Ruskies, the true Americans are with you.

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Serpo
22nd August 2013, 03:52 PM
Stephen Johnson, an expert in weapons and chemical explosives at Cranfield Forensic Institute, told Euro News (http://www.euronews.com/2013/08/21/expert-casts-doubt-on-chemical-weapons-footage-from-syria/) that the video footage looked suspect.
“There are, within some of the videos, examples which seem a little hyper-real, and almost as if they’ve been set up. Which is not to say that they are fake but it does cause some concern. Some of the people with foaming, the foam seems to be too white, too pure, and not consistent with the sort of internal injury you might expect to see, which you’d expect to be bloodier or yellower,” Johnson said.
Johnson adds that a definitive conclusion cannot be drawn from the videos, something which hasn’t stopped countries like France and Turkey threatening force before any kind of formal inquiry into the alleged attacks has even begun.
Johnson joins five other experts who have publicly questioned the authenticity of the narrative behind the alleged chemical weapons attack.
“Firstly, the timing is odd, bordering on suspicious,” writes BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner (http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/august2013/Frank%20Gardner). “Why would the Assad government, which has recently been retaking ground from the rebels, carry out a chemical attack while UN weapons inspectors are in the country?”
His suspicions are shared by Swedish diplomat and former UN weapons inspector Rolf Ekeus, who told Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/21/us-syria-crisis-idUSBRE97K0EL20130821), “It would be very peculiar if it was the government to do this at the exact moment the international inspectors come into the country….at the least, it wouldn’t be very clever.”
Swedish chemical weapons expert Ake Sellstrom, who is leading the current UN inspection in Syria, told Swedish broadcaster SVT (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/08/21/syrian-opposition-claims-poisonous-gas-attack/) that the high number of those killed and wounded sounded “suspicious.”
Charles Lister, an analyst at IHS Jane’s Terrorism and Insurgency Center, told the Jerusalem Post (http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Assad-forces-allegedly-use-chemical-agents-in-bombardment-killing-hundreds-323754) that the timing of such an attack is confusing. “Logically, it would make little sense for the Syrian government to employ chemical agents at such a time, particularly given the relatively close proximity of the targeted towns (to the UN team),” he said.
Meanwhile, chemical and biological weapons researcher Jean Pascal Zanders said (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/21/syria-poison-gas-attack_n_3789642.html) that the footage appears to show victims of asphyxiation, which is not consistent with the use of mustard gas or the nerve agents VX or sarin. “I’m deliberately not using the term chemical weapons here,” he said, adding that the use of “industrial toxicants” was a more likely explanation.
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/expert-chemical-weapons-victim-footage-appears-set-up.html

Serpo
22nd August 2013, 04:25 PM
“The Obama administration gave green signal to a chemical weapons attack plan in Syria that could be blamed on President Bashar al Assad’s regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country, leaked documents have shown,” Asian News International (http://in.news.yahoo.com/us-backed-plan-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-syria-045648224.html) reported in January.
ANI cited Infowars.com. On January 28, Paul Joseph Watson (http://www.infowars.com/hack-reveals-washington-approved-plan-to-stage-chemical-weapons-attack-in-syria/) reported on hacked email from defense contractor Britam exposing a plan “approved by Washington” and funded by Qatar to stage a chemical weapons attack in Syria and blame it on the al-Assad regime.
“We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington,” Britam Defense’s Business Development Director, David Goulding, wrote to the company’s founder, Philip Doughty.
“We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.”
See an image of the email here (http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/january2013/280113email.png).
Following the publication of the email, Britam went into damage control mode.
“A British security company, Britam Defense, has been forced to deny claims that it is involved in a plot to destabilize Syria,” the Voice of Russia (http://ruvr.co.uk/2013_01_30/Britam-security-hack/) reported on January 30. “The allegations spring from a series of online posts by a blogger purporting to reveal that the company had been offered large amounts of money from a source in Qatar to recruit Russian-speaking mercenaries who could detonate a chemical weapon inside Syria. The posts also suggest that such a plot would have the approval of the USA.”
Cyber War News reported the emails were released by a Malaysian hacker who also obtained senior executives resumes and copies of passports via an unprotected company server, according to ANI.
It was later claimed the email was a hoax perpetuated by the Syrian Electronic Army (http://syriancommando.wordpress.com/2013/01/29/britam-trap/), a shadowy group of pro-Assad hackers who supposedly hacked the Twitter account of a WAPO journalist last week.
Attack occurred on anniversary of Obama’s “red line” warning
Last August, Obama issued his “red line” statement (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/08/20/remarks-president-white-house-press-corps) on chemical weapons in Syria. “We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus. That would change my equation,” Obama said.
The alleged attack earlier this week occurred precisely one year after Obama’s “red line” remarks.
Russia: Alleged attack “a provocation planned in advance”
The Russian Foreign Ministry is highly skeptical of the attack and the rush in the United States to attribute it to al-Assad. A flood of reports issued by “biased regional media” about alleged chemical weapons use near Damascus might be “a provocation planned in advance,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman, Aleksandr Lukashevich (http://rt.com/news/russia-syria-chemical-attack-801/), said on Wednesday.
“It draws attention to the fact that biased regional media have immediately, as if on command, begun an aggressive information attack, laying all the responsibility on the government,” Lukashevich said in a statement.
The Russian Foreign Ministry said a homemade rocket carrying unidentified chemical substances had been launched from an area occupied by proxy mercenaries controlled by the CIA, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
“A homemade rocket with a poisonous substance that has not been identified yet – one similar to the rocket used by terrorists on March 19 in Khan al-Assal — was fired early on August 21 [at Damascus suburbs] from a position occupied by the insurgents,” Lukashevich said.
Lukashevich said the reported attack appears to be “a provocation planned in advance” and a “criminal action” coinciding with a United Nations investigation of alleged previous chemical attacks in Syria.

http://www.infowars.com/syrian-chemical-attack-a-provocation-planned-in-advance/

Cebu_4_2
22nd August 2013, 06:00 PM
Anyone have access to any real russian information?

Libertarian_Guard
22nd August 2013, 06:20 PM
Bull Sheet.

Serpo
22nd August 2013, 06:24 PM
Anyone have access to any real russian information?

Putin said he dosnt like Obama because he is gay..........................

something here....
http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/conflicts/21-08-2013/125461-false_flag-0/

osoab
22nd August 2013, 06:59 PM
There is no pinned thead over at glp for this topic. It is one source, and ZH even says it is just one source claiming and unsubstantiated.

Not saying it might not be going on, and it should be somewhat expected with the dismal campaign the death cult has put forth so far.

Serpo
22nd August 2013, 07:45 PM
Obamas red line.....................dosnt count for drone attacks of course thats ,,,er different......