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Serpo
4th September 2013, 01:23 PM
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Reconstruction the Giant Skeleton found in Loja in Ecuador 19 October 2012. Filed under: Anomalies (Source: Global333) in the province of Loja, in the South of the Ecuador and the Peru border, residents remember hearing long ago in the beautiful valleys in this province were reportedly discovered skeletons very similar to those of humans, but of an incredible size.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153193591550573&set=a.10152690800580573.1073741829.583655572&type=1&theater

Silver Rocket Bitches!
4th September 2013, 01:41 PM
That thing looks to be 30-35 feet tall. How the hell could it even function with gravity weighing it down???

StreetsOfGold
4th September 2013, 02:21 PM
http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=30

7th trump
4th September 2013, 02:22 PM
That thing looks to be 30-35 feet tall. How the hell could it even function with gravity weighing it down???

That there is the end result of the fallen angels mixing with the daughters of man.....hybrid giants!
This is why God flooded the earth....to destroy these abominations that filled the earth.

Twisted Titan
4th September 2013, 02:47 PM
Hidden History slowly being revealed.....

midnight rambler
4th September 2013, 02:49 PM
Hidden History slowly being revealed.....

But never completely unless and until we rid ourselves of that parasitic plague on all mankind, the Death Cult.

7th trump
4th September 2013, 03:13 PM
But never completely unless and until we rid ourselves of that parasitic plague on all mankind, the Death Cult.

The death cult and the fallen angels are the same.
Only difference is the death cult opposed Christ in lucifers revolt and now have came through the "bag of waters" (born of flesh) whereas these fallen angels did not.

Ponce
4th September 2013, 03:48 PM
That thing looks to be 30-35 feet tall. How the hell could it even function with gravity weighing it down???


A mouse must be thinking the samething about you...........

V

willie pete
4th September 2013, 03:54 PM
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also AFTER that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
- Genesis 6:4

I'd always interpreted this scripture to mean something different, since it does say "After That".....just sayin' ::)

7th trump
4th September 2013, 04:06 PM
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also AFTER that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
- Genesis 6:4

I'd always interpreted this scripture to mean something different, since it does say "After That".....just sayin' ::)

Just means the giants were here on earth for a time...until the flood of Noah to rid of them.

willie pete
4th September 2013, 04:14 PM
Just means the giants were here on earth for a time...until the flood of Noah to rid of them.

Again, I'd always interpreted this to mean "After" the "giants in those days".....and isn't it stated the Flood was to rid the world of all the wickedness that abounded in Noah's day? (Can't imagine how it'd be more wicked than this present day, must've been pretty bad)

aeondaze
4th September 2013, 04:16 PM
*YAWN*

Wake me when they provide dating and DNA results....o)(~

Serpo
4th September 2013, 04:36 PM
We are talking hidden HISTORY,,,,,,,,,,,not whether it rhymes with something from holy books ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

a skeleton usually means it was inhabited by a real being whoever they are.....

so the bible knows all about this ............RUBBISH ...........the bible knows everything and so there is no need to think anymore.

fallen angels , sons of gods, WTF........this is wishy washy BS talk out of some religious programming.........

i want the history and facts which have been covered up

and dont start bringing in stupid unintelligent quotes from the Bible which no one understands

you dont think the church hasnt had a hand in covering stuff up.............so dont insult my intelligence............as well as your own..........

we want the TRUTH......not vague bible quotes

ximmy
4th September 2013, 04:36 PM
*YAWN*

Wake me when they provide dating and DNA results....o)(~

and the bones of the other 20 to 50 animals and humans used in that ridiculous construct...

Shami-Amourae
4th September 2013, 04:41 PM
http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=30

As a Christian do you consider the Book of Enoch legitimate?

I read it and can't understand why it's not in the Bible. It connects a lot of things together.

StreetsOfGold
4th September 2013, 05:13 PM
As a Christian do you consider the Book of Enoch legitimate?

I read it and can't understand why it's not in the Bible. It connects a lot of things together.

It is indeed an interesting book but not canon. I'm convinced that the 66 books we have are the ones that God wants as canon.

There is a spiritual significance with numbers and God made that clear starting with the creation, he created everything in 6 days and rested the 7th.
God could have made everything in the blink of an eye but didn't. He wanted the numbers for various reasons.

This applies to number of books as well - the 66 books are borne out as the correct number for many reasons.
God could have made any number of books 1, 15, 35, there is no limit but he choose 66.

By all means read the book of Enoch but also keep in mind that it is not part of scripture, it may have many truths in it but God did not put his official seal of approval on it.

Ponce
4th September 2013, 05:41 PM
Nothing that you see is real, only adjusted to the convenience of others......like when you play poker and trow away three cards and ask for three news ones...........the "Bible" began with drawinds on the wall that over time got longer and longer with many things added and many things taken away......man will never write the true Bible for the real Bible is really what you feel and not what your think........the Bible will never have the written words..........I don't write because I know it but because I feel it.

V

7th trump
4th September 2013, 05:46 PM
and the bones of the other 20 to 50 animals and humans used in that ridiculous construct...

What a lost person you are ximmy.

7th trump
4th September 2013, 06:04 PM
We are talking hidden HISTORY,,,,,,,,,,,not whether it rhymes with something from holy books ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

a skeleton usually means it was inhabited by a real being whoever they are.....

so the bible knows all about this ............RUBBISH ...........the bible knows everything and so there is no need to think anymore.

fallen angels , sons of gods, WTF........this is wishy washy BS talk out of some religious programming.........

i want the history and facts which have been covered up

and dont start bringing in stupid unintelligent quotes from the Bible which no one understands

you dont think the church hasnt had a hand in covering stuff up.............so dont insult my intelligence............as well as your own..........

we want the TRUTH......not vague bible quotes

The Bible is a historical book...even includes the dinosaurs......along with health laws and moral laws.
Are you Caucasian Serpo?
Do you even know what Caucasian means and where the word came from?
Biblical evidence sits right in front of your nose and you don't even know/understand it....but its right there!
Therefore don't go blaming the church for your laziness to research the truth boozo!

That's right you're called "Caucasian" because your ancestors are part of the ten tribes that went over that mountain range called the "Caucasus Mountains".
The Bible doesn't lie....its historical fact. Look up where this Caucasus mountain range is.
Its just north of the middle east exactly where the Bible says it is.
They went north....from there they settle Europe then on to other continents.
Their languages were changed....German, English, French, Russian, Polish....
I believe theres even a remote Finnish people who still speak Hebrew....how the fuck is that?
Why are they speaking Hebrew when they are Finnish?
Theres no other people who God scattered and changed their language that became more numerous than the sands of the seas and the stars of the sky that you cant count them.

WAKE THE FUCK UP and GET OFF YOUR PITTY POOR ME I'M CONFUSED PARTY!!!

Cebu_4_2
4th September 2013, 06:14 PM
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also AFTER that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
- Genesis 6:4

I'd always interpreted this scripture to mean something different, since it does say "After That".....just sayin' ::)

Hopefully the Gods know us and appreciate our humbleness. The Earth used to be small and that gave it low gravitation. after that the earth got bigger. This is basic and it dont coinside wit the BS god written books that don't exist since God didn't write shit. What fuckin ever we already been here.

ximmy
4th September 2013, 07:29 PM
What a lost person you are ximmy.

ximmy is devastated by your condemnation...
http://tedwordsblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/skeleton-kneeling.jpg?w=320LOL

7th trump
4th September 2013, 08:21 PM
ximmy is devastated by your condemnation...
http://tedwordsblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/skeleton-kneeling.jpg?w=320LOL

You aren't so cute ximmy...........somethings telling me you have problems.
You going to ever graduate from that high school attitude and become something real?
It's not going to last for ever!

Oh and looky there....... midnight giving you a "thanks" for promoting your satanism.
That's right.......midnight, the soviet communist sympathizer who hates America.

aeondaze
4th September 2013, 08:25 PM
You aren't so cute ximmy...........somethings telling me you have problems.

Yep, she's got problems with unsubstantiated hearsay and spurious claims it appears.

:D

7th trump
4th September 2013, 08:38 PM
Yep, she's got problems with unsubstantiated hearsay and spurious claims it appears.

:D
Ok...I'll bite.
Explain it away moron.......I'm all ears!

vacuum
4th September 2013, 08:44 PM
That thing looks to be 30-35 feet tall. How the hell could it even function with gravity weighing it down???

Dinosaurs have that issue as well

Celtic Rogue
4th September 2013, 10:49 PM
LOL the bible is a historical book??? Hysterical maybe but historical? NOT! The bible may be old and that might be a sort of history... However the bible is just a pipe dream of a bunch of jewish priests.

How you think that it is gods words and try to act as if it was science is scary at least. The bible as you see it has lost some books over the years. The Old Testament came from stories handed down by word of mouth over thousands of years in the Middle East. A group of bishops in the council at Carthage in 397 A.D assembled the Bible. The actual books and chapters are credited to various prophets, apostles and disciples. But, the book as a whole was created by an assembly. They put together the Bible. They did not write it but they made it. Like an editor putting together a book of short stories or essays. There is no one person that wrote the Bible. Although some people say God wrote it this is untrue. The Bible is supposed to contain God's message but most of it is in the words of the people who did the writing. So a book that is missing or edited passages over the years is not the best resource to validate anything.

To think that the world is 6000 years old and giants came down from the sky and had sex with the human women is absurd! So did these giants have really small penises for their size? If not it would be deadly to have sex with a woman 1/5 their size? and what about the hybrid birth... How did a normal size woman give birth to the half giant half human being? I will believe in science and the emperical method of reasoning instead of having faith in a book that was concocted to control the masses by some jewish priests. Lets see some DNA evidence! There have been gods before the god you worship and their will probably be gods after the one worshiped today.

Why is it that today people say that this is the true one god.... I guarentee that people said that about the gods they believed in as well. Humans are scared and insecure little creatures that were cursed with the foreknowledge of their own death. So we rationalize the belief in a supernatural after life belief so that we can justify our lives as not futile. Shamans in the past and now ministers and preists use this irrational fear to control the masses and give them power over the people.

I will fight for your right to believe anything you wish... but when anyone tries to assert that the bible is a historical book and worthy as a scientific proof... I can not go along with such nonsence.

Celtic Rogue
4th September 2013, 11:11 PM
I believe theres even a remote Finnish people who still speak Hebrew....how the fuck is that?
Why are they speaking Hebrew when they are Finnish?

This should be an easy one to prove? Show me these remote people.


The Bible doesn't lie....its historical fact. Look up where this Caucasus mountain range is.
Its just north of the middle east exactly where the Bible says it is.

So I guess you dont believe that humans migrated all over the planet... Trade routes existed? People from eons ago knew about the lands that surrounded them through travelers and merchants stories. So why wouldnt a people know of a mountain range in the north? I dont think the bible was needed to show them that fact.

Heaven was a place where god dwelled up in the sky... hence the reaason we call the sky the heavens. Well now man has flown up in that realm and heaven is no where to be found... then the story changes to... well heaven is somewhere beyond our dimension? and then they cannot explain something and when all else fails you hear the words... God works in mysterious ways! WOW Really?

If I said I have 20 pounds of gold for sale at $100 an ounce and I want to sell it to you. I show you a picture of the gold and have papers with words that explain the gold to you where it was mined and refined... All you need to do is pay me the $2000 dollars and then go around the corner to pick it up... Would you give me the money? No and for good reason... and it is that same reason that I do not believe the so called words of god until I can verify the same words with facts of reason and not faith.

I still say that religion is a mental disorder that makes otherwise rational beings act irrationally and have hatred for those that believe otherwise.

Glass
4th September 2013, 11:57 PM
I still say that religion is a mental disorder that makes otherwise rational beings act irrationally and have hatred for those that believe otherwise.

I would say that Dogma is the mental disorder that perverts religion and provides the ability for irrational people to rationalise their own devilish acts.

aeondaze
5th September 2013, 12:37 AM
I would say that Dogma is the mental disorder that perverts religion and provides the ability for irrational people to rationalise their own devilish acts.

Any unswerving belief in a god is dogma

7th trump
5th September 2013, 04:15 AM
LOL the bible is a historical book??? Hysterical maybe but historical? NOT! The bible may be old and that might be a sort of history... However the bible is just a pipe dream of a bunch of jewish priests.

How you think that it is gods words and try to act as if it was science is scary at least. The bible as you see it has lost some books over the years. The Old Testament came from stories handed down by word of mouth over thousands of years in the Middle East. A group of bishops in the council at Carthage in 397 A.D assembled the Bible. The actual books and chapters are credited to various prophets, apostles and disciples. But, the book as a whole was created by an assembly. They put together the Bible. They did not write it but they made it. Like an editor putting together a book of short stories or essays. There is no one person that wrote the Bible. Although some people say God wrote it this is untrue. The Bible is supposed to contain God's message but most of it is in the words of the people who did the writing. So a book that is missing or edited passages over the years is not the best resource to validate anything.

To think that the world is 6000 years old and giants came down from the sky and had sex with the human women is absurd! So did these giants have really small penises for their size? If not it would be deadly to have sex with a woman 1/5 their size? and what about the hybrid birth... How did a normal size woman give birth to the half giant half human being? I will believe in science and the emperical method of reasoning instead of having faith in a book that was concocted to control the masses by some jewish priests. Lets see some DNA evidence! There have been gods before the god you worship and their will probably be gods after the one worshiped today.

Why is it that today people say that this is the true one god.... I guarentee that people said that about the gods they believed in as well. Humans are scared and insecure little creatures that were cursed with the foreknowledge of their own death. So we rationalize the belief in a supernatural after life belief so that we can justify our lives as not futile. Shamans in the past and now ministers and preists use this irrational fear to control the masses and give them power over the people.

I will fight for your right to believe anything you wish... but when anyone tries to assert that the bible is a historical book and worthy as a scientific proof... I can not go along with such nonsense.

You are as stupid as you make yourself out to be......

Its no wonder you are dazed and confused and babble as you do.
WTF is wrong with you?
You read plain black and white text and yet didn't comprehend one word I wrote.
I never said the daughters of man had sex with giants dipshit...where did you get that from?
What I said is what the Bible says which is the fallen angels had sex with the daughters of man.
The off spring were the giants.

The rest of your post isn't worth commenting on as its based on your preconditioned mind set.

7th trump
5th September 2013, 04:20 AM
This should be an easy one to prove? Show me these remote people.



So I guess you dont believe that humans migrated all over the planet... Trade routes existed? People from eons ago knew about the lands that surrounded them through travelers and merchants stories. So why wouldnt a people know of a mountain range in the north? I dont think the bible was needed to show them that fact.

Heaven was a place where god dwelled up in the sky... hence the reaason we call the sky the heavens. Well now man has flown up in that realm and heaven is no where to be found... then the story changes to... well heaven is somewhere beyond our dimension? and then they cannot explain something and when all else fails you hear the words... God works in mysterious ways! WOW Really?

If I said I have 20 pounds of gold for sale at $100 an ounce and I want to sell it to you. I show you a picture of the gold and have papers with words that explain the gold to you where it was mined and refined... All you need to do is pay me the $2000 dollars and then go around the corner to pick it up... Would you give me the money? No and for good reason... and it is that same reason that I do not believe the so called words of god until I can verify the same words with facts of reason and not faith.

I still say that religion is a mental disorder that makes otherwise rational beings act irrationally and have hatred for those that believe otherwise.

Go do the research yourself...its there you find it.
Mental disorders huh?
And yet your mental disorder cant comprehend....if there was ever a show of mental disorder you took the cake by thinking I said women had sex with giants when I said the angels had sex with the daughters of man and their off spring were giants.

Spectrism
5th September 2013, 04:21 AM
LOL the bible is a historical book??? Hysterical maybe but historical? NOT! The bible may be old and that might be a sort of history... However the bible is just a pipe dream of a bunch of jewish priests.

How you think that it is gods words and try to act as if it was science is scary at least. The bible as you see it has lost some books over the years. The Old Testament came from stories handed down by word of mouth over thousands of years in the Middle East. A group of bishops in the council at Carthage in 397 A.D assembled the Bible. The actual books and chapters are credited to various prophets, apostles and disciples. But, the book as a whole was created by an assembly. They put together the Bible. They did not write it but they made it. Like an editor putting together a book of short stories or essays. There is no one person that wrote the Bible. Although some people say God wrote it this is untrue. The Bible is supposed to contain God's message but most of it is in the words of the people who did the writing. So a book that is missing or edited passages over the years is not the best resource to validate anything.

To think that the world is 6000 years old and giants came down from the sky and had sex with the human women is absurd! So did these giants have really small penises for their size? If not it would be deadly to have sex with a woman 1/5 their size? and what about the hybrid birth... How did a normal size woman give birth to the half giant half human being? I will believe in science and the emperical method of reasoning instead of having faith in a book that was concocted to control the masses by some jewish priests. Lets see some DNA evidence! There have been gods before the god you worship and their will probably be gods after the one worshiped today.

Why is it that today people say that this is the true one god.... I guarentee that people said that about the gods they believed in as well. Humans are scared and insecure little creatures that were cursed with the foreknowledge of their own death. So we rationalize the belief in a supernatural after life belief so that we can justify our lives as not futile. Shamans in the past and now ministers and preists use this irrational fear to control the masses and give them power over the people.

I will fight for your right to believe anything you wish... but when anyone tries to assert that the bible is a historical book and worthy as a scientific proof... I can not go along with such nonsence.

Actually, the bible is the best historical document we have for the times of 2000 years ago and earlier. Many believed discrepancies seemed to be verified as truth when archaeological evidence was uncovered, showing the bible record was accurate.

Your problem is that you cannot believe the words in the bible are divinely inspired because you approach all things with the idol of the supremacy of man. You blind yourself with preconceptions. It is fully understandable that you do not believe in the One true God. You have not met Him and you don't want to. There is a sad end to that story. In a very short time you will meet Him as an adversary instead of a friend.

Spectrism
5th September 2013, 04:21 AM
Any unswerving belief in a god is dogma

Are you married? Would you say that unswerving belief in your spouse is dogma?

Spectrism
5th September 2013, 04:27 AM
It is indeed an interesting book but not canon. I'm convinced that the 66 books we have are the ones that God wants as canon.

There is a spiritual significance with numbers and God made that clear starting with the creation, he created everything in 6 days and rested the 7th.
God could have made everything in the blink of an eye but didn't. He wanted the numbers for various reasons.

This applies to number of books as well - the 66 books are borne out as the correct number for many reasons.
God could have made any number of books 1, 15, 35, there is no limit but he choose 66.

By all means read the book of Enoch but also keep in mind that it is not part of scripture, it may have many truths in it but God did not put his official seal of approval on it.


I agree with most of your positions. This one, I am not so sure. I do not believe the bible is the full canon of God's Word. We know it is not. It is not every Word spoken by God nor does it cover every action of God. That simple fact in logic tells us that we have not contained God in the bible. The bible only has pieces of His insights. This is why He sent His Spirit to guide us. But what we do have in the bible is sufficient for us to apply a guideline and build faith. It gives us knowledge of the heart of God and points us in the direction of the Messiah. What must happen from there is supernatural.

aeondaze
5th September 2013, 05:10 AM
Are you married? Would you say that unswerving belief in your spouse is dogma?

No.

Celtic Rogue
5th September 2013, 05:24 AM
LOL what ever the delusion of the day will be. And with all of you guys verbiage NO ONE has answered the questions I asked. I am a free willed thinker not encumbered with any religious trappings.

So show me these Fins that speak hebrew... Show me so I can to believe and comprehend this mental disorder that I am too feeble to comprehend. Quit hiding behind your religion and answer what I ask.


SPECTRISM Said: You blind yourself with preconceptions.

To the contrary my mind is open to reality and not shaded by any notions or writings of absoluteness. You say the bible is true and accurate and can only be the way the book says... thus you are blinded by preconceptions. While I look at the entire picture and use facts and reason to describe what I am seeing. We all are prisoners of our experiences. I just choose the ones based in reality of reason.


7TH Said: The rest of your post isn't worth commenting on as its based on your preconditioned mind set.

Nice way to avoid the questions and answers to how you believe things could only by divine inspiration or command.



7TH Said: I never said the daughters of man had sex with giants dipshit...where did you get that from?
What I said is what the Bible says which is the fallen angels had sex with the daughters of man.
The off spring were the giants.

Oh sorry... LOL that is supposed to sound any better? Sorry dont see it.


As I said I would fight to let you believe in what ever your spiritual beliefs are... but the way you ignore the facts of the world, dont show me the Fins speaking hebrew and just scream what a dipshit I am ... you sound more like the liberals that I argue with . Have a nice day and eternity.

chad
5th September 2013, 05:34 AM
arguing religion because of a fake picture on jewbook. lol

Blink
5th September 2013, 08:33 AM
Actually, the bible is the best historical document we have for the times of 2000 years ago and earlier. Many believed discrepancies seemed to be verified as truth when archaeological evidence was uncovered, showing the bible record was accurate.

Your problem is that you cannot believe the words in the bible are divinely inspired because you approach all things with the idol of the supremacy of man. You blind yourself with preconceptions. It is fully understandable that you do not believe in the One true God. You have not met Him and you don't want to. There is a sad end to that story. In a very short time you will meet Him as an adversary instead of a friend.


The cuneiform tablets of ancient Sumer pre-dates the bible by a few thousand years and was the initial basis for the "bible" and a host of other religions.


"In the course of the third millenium B.C., the Sumerians developed religious ideas and spiritual concepts which have left an indelible impress on the modern world, especially by way of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. On the intellectual level Sumerian thinkers and sages, as a result of their their speculations on the origin and nature of the universe and its modus operandi, developed a cosmology and theology which carried such high conviction that they became the basic creed and dogma of much of the ancient near East."

http://genealogyreligion.net/sumerian-spiritualism-the-earliest-organized-religion

7th trump
5th September 2013, 10:34 AM
I dare anyone of you nay sayers to explain what this family found in the desert.......complete with video and testimony.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoeEy8Qzzy8

Explain what they found is exactly what is exactly written in the Bible about Moses leaving Egypt, golden calf, and God feeding his people in the desert.

ximmy
5th September 2013, 10:44 AM
7th trump... you're a troubled young man I can tell

---- ;D

You see the world through your cynical eyes
You're a troubled young man i can tell
You've got it all in the palm of your hand
But your hand's wet with sweat and your head needs a rest

And you're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're kidding yourself if you don't believe it
How can you be such an angry young man
When your future looks quite bright to me
How can there be such a sinister plan
That could hide such a lamb, such a caring young man

7th trump
5th September 2013, 02:29 PM
7th trump... you're a troubled young man I can tell

---- ;D

You see the world through your cynical eyes
You're a troubled young man i can tell
You've got it all in the palm of your hand
But your hand's wet with sweat and your head needs a rest

And you're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're kidding yourself if you don't believe it
How can you be such an angry young man
When your future looks quite bright to me
How can there be such a sinister plan
That could hide such a lamb, such a caring young man

Guess I was correct about you Ximmy.
How's that addiction to alcohol working out for ya?

chad
5th September 2013, 02:40 PM
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chud
5th September 2013, 02:42 PM
It is indeed an interesting book but not canon.

I think it fills in a lot of gaps. St Augustine thought it was legit as well.


I'm convinced that the 66 books we have are the ones that God wants as canon.

73 books actually.

Celtic Rogue
5th September 2013, 03:11 PM
I dare anyone of you nay sayers to explain what this family found in the desert.......complete with video and testimony.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoeEy8Qzzy8

Explain what they found is exactly what is exactly written in the Bible about Moses leaving Egypt, golden calf, and God feeding his people in the desert. OK I watched the video... I saw a pile of rocks with a fence around it. I saw no golden calf as they imagined and the v shaped alter looked to me like the corner of a building with walls that were less that a foot thick... Hard to tell scale though. But it didnt look like any alters that I have found from that time period.. But anyway... there is no real proof of a god from what the video shows. There is a rock with I will admit a strange slice through it... but no stranger than any number of geological formations in the world. It has been proven that hebrew SLAVES did NOT build the pyramids as once thought because of a massive city of dwelling of craftsmen and workers.

http://www.writework.com/essay/lost-city-giza-and-homes-pyramid-workers (http://www.writework.com/essay/lost-city-giza-and-homes-pyramid-workers)

But, if one believes that the Hebrews were in Egypt, and one has a strong desire for a romantic and fantastic version of history, one may want to connect the dots and say that the Hebrews were the builders of one of the Wonders of the World (hey, why just one?). But, the fact is, that the evidence shows this belief to be very doubtful. No primary source backs is up, and the primary sources we do have refute it.

The Pyramids were built 2,500 BCE
The earliest reference to Israel is 1,200 BCE (Merneptah Stele (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah_Stele), in which they are barely a footnote)
The earliest Hebrew writing is the Gezer Calendar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gezer_calendar) and the Khirbet Qeiyafa potsherd (http://universalheretic.wordpress.com/2010/01/12/decoding-the-early-hebrew-sherd/), both dated to around 1,000 BCE and both very primitive early forms of the language.
The first mention of Jews being in Egypt is in the 5th century BCE, in the Elephantine papyri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantine_papyri). They do mention a Jewish temple previously build, but they do not mention how far back.
The first mention that the Hebrews build the pyramids were in the histories of Herodotus, 450 BCE, Herodotus is, unfortunately, well known for his historical inaccuracy.(That, by itself, of course, does not say that Herodotus was wrong about it. It could have been one of the things He got right.)

So, where does this leave the Exodus. The Exodus, as recorded in the Bible, was huge.


There were about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides women and children. Many other people went up with them, and also large droves of livestock, both flocks and herds.

-Exodus 12: 37b-38, NIV

600,000 MEN. Double that for wives, add a few kids, and who knows how many “other people”, we quickly get millions of people with their livestock. Sorry, that’s just ridiculous. There’s just not enough quail in the desert to feed them.

So thanks for the video but I didnt see what you saw ...

StreetsOfGold
5th September 2013, 03:15 PM
73 books actually.

73 does not work for many reasons, if it is 66 books as are in the King James Bible, you have agreement with the Bible as a whole which is what we would expect from God.
God puts clues in his book for those willing to look.

For example, in the tabernacle which God spent an unusual amount of attention to the detail of has a table for the shewbread. It is laid out in 6 loaves of bread each. 6 and 6. God likens his word TO BREAD in many places like Isaiah 55 and Deuteronomy 8 Jesus Christ, which is called the Word, the living Word also calls himself the bread of life.

The Book of Isaiah, sometimes referred to as the mini-Bible has 66 chapters, many of which correspond to the book of the Bible for that particular chapter. Coincidence? I think not.

For example, Genesis is characterized by the creation account, even though there is a lot of history in it, most people associate Genesis with the creation of the heaven and earth. Isaish chapter one says -
Isaiah 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.

This peculiar wording of the heaven and earth are found in chapter one, same with the last chapter which seem to correspond to the last book of the (66) Bible - Revelation. Everyone knows that Revelation is an end times book and in Chapter 66 of Isaish you find distinct end time wording like this

Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

How could you miss it?
Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.


Not only that but there is a distinct BREAK between Isaish chapter 39 and 40 which is so distinct that even the most liberal Bible scholar recognizes it and what verse do we find in Chapter 40?

Isaiah 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

Which matches the first book of the new testament Matthew 3:3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

The Lord seems to be making it clear that the first 39 chapters represent one part of the canon (OT) and the last 27 books represent the second part of the canon (NT)

66 books - Total

73 are claimed by the councils of hippo and carthage are NOT the same canon as was given to the Levites (39 for the OT) and then the 27 as ordained by the (NT) Christians which are the REPLACEMENT of the priest-"class" of the OT levitical priests.

NT Christians are ALL "priests" today

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1 Peter 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Serpo
5th September 2013, 03:15 PM
Guess I was correct about you Ximmy.
How's that addiction to alcohol working out for ya?



So you would destroy everything for your beliefs ...........even your friends.........

Celtic Rogue
5th September 2013, 03:18 PM
Guess I was correct about you Ximmy.
How's that addiction to alcohol working out for ya?

So is this some of the christian love I hear all about? Pretty low blow from someone who proclaims his god is so great! what exactly was your motive in attacking someone like that? I am glad to be a free thinker as we all are supposed to be.... if this is the example of the loving god that you have personally met. Sad! You do realize when you use ad hominens in an argument you are basically telling everyone you dont have any real facts to help your argument in the debate.

ximmy
5th September 2013, 03:45 PM
So is this some of the christian love I hear all about? Pretty low blow from someone who proclaims his god is so great! what exactly was your motive in attacking someone like that? I am glad to be a free thinker as we all are supposed to be.... if this is the example of the loving god that you have personally met. Sad! You do realize when you use ad hominens in an argument you are basically telling everyone you dont have any real facts to help your argument in the debate.

Well said Celtic Rogue, but 7th trump may have a hard time understanding your words.
He aggressively challenges others to fact, while he continues in judgmental errors.
To live on such a shallow foundation, how can one be trusted in understanding the deeper things?

7th trump
5th September 2013, 03:58 PM
So is this some of the christian love I hear all about? Pretty low blow from someone who proclaims his god is so great! what exactly was your motive in attacking someone like that? I am glad to be a free thinker as we all are supposed to be.... if this is the example of the loving god that you have personally met. Sad! You do realize when you use ad hominens in an argument you are basically telling everyone you dont have any real facts to help your argument in the debate.

Ximmy attacked first with her usual pathetic way.
Christian love?
You are gonna see Christian love when Christ rules with a rod of iron which I suspect you aren't going to like.
You're not a free thinker Celtic, quite the opposite really...if you were you'd act like one, but that's not the case with you.
You've completely shut off any attempt at understanding the Bible (You are preconditioned and I bet you didn't even give that video I posted one second of thought to watch).

Ximmy is a spoiled brat.....Ximmy needs to grow up....and she knows this!

There wasn't any ad hominens....thats you injecting what you want everyone to think in your attempt to discredit (control).
You're a dominating control freak aren't you?
Funny thing is I have always found control freaks such as yourself 100% of the time having a distaste for God and the Bible.

Did you search the web yet for information on the Hebrew speaking Fins?

Serpo
5th September 2013, 04:06 PM
Ximmy attacked first with her usual pathetic way.
Christian love?
You are gonna see Christian love when Christ rules with a rod of iron which I suspect you aren't going to like.
You're not a free thinker Celtic, quite the opposite really...if you were you'd act like one, but that's not the case with you.
You've completely shut off any attempt at understanding the Bible (You are preconditioned and I bet you didn't even give that video I posted one second of thought to watch).

Ximmy is a spoiled brat.....Ximmy needs to grow up....and she knows this!

There wasn't any ad hominens....thats you injecting what you want everyone to think in your attempt to discredit (control).
You're a dominating control freak aren't you?
Funny thing is I have always found control freaks such as yourself 100% of the time having a distaste for God and the Bible.

Did you search the web yet for information on the Hebrew speaking Fins?

so instead of being your own God ,you are now the God of us............

ie .......we know whats best for you

ximmy
5th September 2013, 04:07 PM
Ximmy attacked first

http://www.chaosandloveshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/toddler-fight-club.jpg

aeondaze
5th September 2013, 04:10 PM
Ximmy attacked first with her usual pathetic way.
Christian love?
You are gonna see Christian love when Christ rules with a rod of iron which I suspect you aren't going to like.
You're not a free thinker Celtic, quite the opposite really...if you were you'd act like one, but that's not the case with you.
You've completely shut off any attempt at understanding the Bible (You are preconditioned and I bet you didn't even give that video I posted one second of thought to watch).

Ximmy is a spoiled brat.....Ximmy needs to grow up....and she knows this!

There wasn't any ad hominens....thats you injecting what you want everyone to think in your attempt to discredit (control).
You're a dominating control freak aren't you?
Funny thing is I have always found control freaks such as yourself 100% of the time having a distaste for God and the Bible.

Did you search the web yet for information on the Hebrew speaking Fins?

Dude you are full of bile and viriol. I always sit by and laugh when I see you consumed by your own hate and belief god will smite all the disbelievers.

have at it my boy...hate you heart out for all I care...lol

O:[##]

ximmy
5th September 2013, 04:14 PM
Giant skull found!
http://blondesearch.ru/img/01/01d/GIANT_HUMAN_skeletons.jpg
Nevermind, it was just 7th trumps numbskull... :D

Silver Rocket Bitches!
5th September 2013, 04:29 PM
Christian love?
You are gonna see Christian love when Christ rules with a rod of iron which I suspect you aren't going to like.

You seem to be speaking out of spite instead of love which Christ spoke of. AMIWRONG?

Celtic Rogue
5th September 2013, 04:36 PM
Time to close this thread before anymore anger is let loose. And 7th you do not know me... you have no idea my background or education or life experiences. You never respond to questions you just threaten me with eternal damnation. I am sorry this thread has come to this. My mind is and has always been open to may things... however it is your type of hatred I have seen coming out of so called religious people that turned me to discoveries about the christian church. Your vitriol is almost in the same line of thought as those people who would behead a person for a cartoon of Mohamed or the people that would shoot an abortion doctor! I hope you would not go there and probably wold not. But it does have the same tone to it. You really need to calm yourself down before you hurt yourself and or others. I am sorry for fanning the flames here... All I really wanted was an honest debate of the so called facts around biblical discoveries.

ximmy
5th September 2013, 04:37 PM
WAKE THE FUCK UP and GET OFF YOUR PITTY POOR ME I'M CONFUSED PARTY!!!
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/davidckitchen/TheRealJesus.jpg

Serpo
5th September 2013, 04:43 PM
closing thread.............................not only derailed but train tracks have disappeared also.......................;D