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singular_me
5th September 2013, 02:32 PM
if there truly are "peaceful" ETs out there, they have to endorse the laws of non coercion... regardless of the NWO staging a fake landing... we have to want the first contact, they have to be invited... all other ETs forcing their ways among us are malevolent

if you ever believe in ETs of course :)

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The ET Dilemmas and the Issue with Human Contact

Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:21

Dilemma #1: All People Would Have to Welcome Them

It’s not enough to be welcomed by just a fraction of the World Population. All individuals on Earth would have to accept their presence. Anyone apprehensive toward the arrival of an ET would most certainly consider the visit an “invasion.” The feelings could range anywhere from a threat to someone’s “status quo” to a very genuine and passionate concern for all life on the planet. This presents a most perplexing problem for any highly advanced and (benevolent) life form. They, presumably, would not want to offend, interfere with or frighten any Human that calls Earth his or her home.

Dilemma #2: Messiah Complex

This is of grave concern to an ET. The propensity for Humans to “surrender their authority” and feel “inferior” to a more technologically advanced entity poses a major challenge to an ET presence. They do not see technological achievement in the same way Humans do. In fact, they are quite fascinated by us and consider Humans “ultra” advanced entities in their own right, technology notwithstanding. But still many will bow and worship to their “new messiah” and this would surely be a source of much discomfort to the visitors.

Dilemma #3: Misrepresentations in Film and Television

ET’s are frequently portrayed as the “evil invaders.” This distorted stereotype is firmly entrenched in the minds of the masses. With suspicion deeply etched in our psyches, we would feel hard-pressed in welcoming any visitors with open arms –let alone open minds. Thanks to Hollywood in helping to hone the “suspicious” nature in Humans, we will harbor doubt, confusion and resistance toward the visitors. Some will argue that this is a healthy position to take and that we should not let down our guard. I submit that any modicum of logic applied to this argument would soon negate it. Such visitors could easily wreak major havoc on Earth with or without our blessing if that was indeed their intent. We have not seen (nor will we see) any attack of this nature.

Dilemma #4: Humans are Hypocrites

Humans would most certainly question the intent of any ET visitation as possibly hostile or dangerous –and yet this comes from a species that has maintained wars generation after generation, destroying their own kind in reckless and vicious assaults for the purpose of power, control and dominance. It’s not that Humans are inherently bad or evil -nothing could be farther from the truth. Humans are among the most peaceful and loving of all creatures. We are, however, a race that is constantly teetering in and out of our natural balance. And though there are reasons why we’ve become this way, how would you expect ET to react to such a powerful, complex and conflicting entity?

Dilemma #5: Religious and Teaching Institutions

Humans often have trouble thinking on their own, not because they can’t –but because they have been repeatedly conditioned not to. They have surrendered much of their independent thought, individual perspectives, in order to fit within templates of compliance, conformity and submission to the instruments of programming and authority. The bias and inflexibility in thinking is part of an ongoing process and has led to our collective undoing. Humans submit wholeheartedly to religious and teaching intuitions to guide and direct them through life. Here we find “truth” commingled with agenda-driven rhetoric. Delineating truth from agenda is a daunting task for the unaware Human where “truths” are often promoted as conditional, i.e. “if you believe (this) then you must therefore believe in (that).”

Since culture generally rewards those who eagerly participate in these thought-controlling organizations, the efficacy of such institutions are further cemented in place, validating their importance in the minds of the masses. It’s important for Humans to remain aware of the many subtle distinctions that exist and how our “point of attention” has been controlled and harvested. The ET is particularly fond of the Human aspect that has remained unadulterated, alive, full of spirit and independent in thought. We can learn much from our greatest teachers -our children.

Dilemma #6: Money as an Institution

Humans will fight, destroy, lie, cheat, swindle and manipulate all in the name of money. But what is money? The ET is baffled by this. Money is literally worshiped by some Humans and yet it holds no real power. It’s an artificial construct, an illusion manifesting in the form of a paper bill or plastic card. Beyond that it’s simply not real. We make it real though, do we not? Practitioners of dark magic understand this “illusion” all too well and consider, for instance, the “dollar bill” as a type of talisman or sigil. Money has created damaging morality gaps in the Human condition, thus lowering our “vibration” on a collective level. Though world societies are built around monetary systems, there is much inequity in this design. This must be changed for ET to make direct contact.

Dilemma #7: Humans Subordinate to Inferior “Leaders”

Humans do not usually elect people of high morality and virtue into key positions of their government. Instead, they elect people of questionable ethics, compromised integrity and sometimes even invite downright scumbags to hold critically important positions in office. The ET would be required to deal with this unsavory lot to convey their message to the world. They would be forced to comply with certain terms and agreements made in secrecy. This is not the conduit they are seeking. –Another very real dilemma to say the least.

Dilemma #8: We’ve Already Been Invaded

Here’s a point worthy of consideration. We’ve been attacked by our own devices. We have cultivated a world based on fear and anger under the auspice of an enlightened society. We have created numerous problems where before none had existed. We remain divided in the name of race, religion, ethnicity and class… and in many more ways beyond this. We continue to wage war or are told to expect engagement at any time. We no longer have a clear sense of “normal.” We’ve taken insane ideas and notions and made them somehow acceptable. We’ve already been invaded —question is will Humans ever see it that way?

Final Thought

As alluded to earlier, this is just a small sampling of all the many possible dilemmas an ET visitor would ultimately face. Some well-meaning souls may advise me to be wary of some; the potentially hostile or questionable nature of certain visitors such as the so-called “Greys.” You will not have difficultly with them. Let them know you have a “free mind” and are aware of your “power” and of your right and place in Universe. So far I haven’t had issue with any.

The ET does, however, make numerous visitations in the best way it knows how—in the form of UFO sightings. In 1952 they even made such an announcement over the White House. Though they did not “land” on the lawn, it was a spectacular and well-documented event none-the-less. This technique is used to gradually phase in their presence, much like the so-called “crop circles.” Curiously, even though there have been volumes of reports of sightings from highly credible witnesses, many still continue to question their existence.

Please consider the plight of the Human race before we pass judgment on any potential threat an ET visitor might present. I suggest we keep an open mind, dispel fear and embrace this incredible experience we call life here on Earth and beyond. Humans are capable of extraordinary levels of kindness and compassion. They are a beautiful creation, intelligent beyond expression and infinitely capable of all things. We have unlimited potential. The ET is well aware of this. Now if we could just convince ourselves.

-Until next time
http://beforeitsnews.com/metaphysics/2013/09/the-et-dilemmas-and-the-issue-with-human-contact-2442992.html

Ponce
5th September 2013, 02:57 PM
If ET wants to contact us knowing whay they do they are idiots........I would go back home and go to the beach or something and to hell with Earth and their wars.

V

ximmy
5th September 2013, 03:14 PM
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Respectfully submitted for your perusal --- a Kanamit. Height: a little over nine feet. Weight: in the neighborhood of three hundred and fifty pounds. Origin: unknown. Motives? Therein hangs the tale, for in just a moment we're going to ask you to shake hands, figuratively, with a Christopher Columbus from another galaxy and another time.

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Libertytree
5th September 2013, 03:39 PM
Dilemmas and the Issue with Human Contact

Damned if I don't ask myself this same question regularly!

madfranks
5th September 2013, 03:55 PM
Dilemma #6: Money as an Institution

But what is money? The ET is baffled by this.


From a strictly economic sense, any economy that wishes to move beyond barter has to have a medium of exchange, or money. If ETs are baffled by money, how did they create such an advanced civilization without it?

Jewboo
6th September 2013, 12:23 AM
Respectfully submitted for your perusal --- a Kanamit.





http://youtu.be/NIufLRpJYnI





Once again Ximmy totally nails a silly thread title and silly OP question with the perfect answer.

http://www.ian-brown.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/applause.gif

vacuum
6th September 2013, 12:37 AM
From a strictly economic sense, any economy that wishes to move beyond barter has to have a medium of exchange, or money. If ETs are baffled by money, how did they create such an advanced civilization without it?

In a paradigm of selfishness, a society based off of money makes sense. We're selfish because we follow darwin's laws which reinforce passing on genes with unsuccessful strains dieing off.

There could be other types of societies or organizations which aren't based off of individual selfishness. They could be selfish only at the social or species level, or even at the universal level. They could be post-scarcity. They could be propagated non-sexually and not have competitiveness hardwired in. They could be telepathic and highly empathetic. They could be more concerned with physical or spiritual health than material things. They could even be non-physical. There are many possibilities.

You have to understand that knowing alien motivations is not necessarily within the realm of human comprehension.

madfranks
6th September 2013, 08:57 AM
In a paradigm of selfishness, a society based off of money makes sense. We're selfish because we follow darwin's laws which reinforce passing on genes with unsuccessful strains dieing off.

There could be other types of societies or organizations which aren't based off of individual selfishness. They could be selfish only at the social or species level, or even at the universal level. They could be post-scarcity. They could be propagated non-sexually and not have competitiveness hardwired in. They could be telepathic and highly empathetic. They could be more concerned with physical or spiritual health than material things. They could even be non-physical. There are many possibilities.

You have to understand that knowing alien motivations is not necessarily within the realm of human comprehension.

Very interesting point. But the point #6 in the OP is critiquing money as a bad, damaging institution. Maybe they need to be a little more open minded instead of judging such a different society as theirs.

Blink
6th September 2013, 09:13 AM
Once again Ximmy totally nails a silly thread title and silly OP question with the perfect answer.

http://www.ian-brown.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/applause.gif



And people used to think the earth was flat too and mocked those that thought differently. I guess all those seafarers were being "silly" when they sailed to the end of the world and didn't fall off. To mock absolutely about something we know very little about is arrogant at the least. You pretty good at seeing through hypocrisy yet the question of intelligent life out there seems to perplex and intimidate you. If you can prove otherwise, lets see it. If not, let it be and see how the cards falls..........

midnight rambler
6th September 2013, 09:18 AM
we follow darwin's laws which reinforce passing on genes with unsuccessful strains dieing off.


REALLY??

Exactly what's your definition of 'success'?

http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/welfare-queen-detroit-1-600x350.jpg

singular_me
6th September 2013, 03:09 PM
thank you Vacuum, it deserves a bump... exactly the way I see things too and hope humans will embark on this path eventually.



In a paradigm of selfishness, a society based off of money makes sense. We're selfish because we follow darwin's laws which reinforce passing on genes with unsuccessful strains dieing off.

There could be other types of societies or organizations which aren't based off of individual selfishness. They could be selfish only at the social or species level, or even at the universal level. They could be post-scarcity. They could be propagated non-sexually and not have competitiveness hardwired in. They could be telepathic and highly empathetic. They could be more concerned with physical or spiritual health than material things. They could even be non-physical. There are many possibilities.

You have to understand that knowing alien motivations is not necessarily within the realm of human comprehension.

singular_me
6th September 2013, 03:25 PM
when I used to being one of the best posters on GIM, I was an advocate of sound money... and made a U-turn as value itself is purely subjective in the end and only works within the Darwinian framework. Eventually I realize that if humans were given the dominion over Nature is to transcend it, be better than animals... also, we just cannot pay back Earth for all the environmental damages we have done. We have to overcome the "notion of time" to quit being greedy and this is the biggest challenge of all. If we could do this, any form of monetary system would become obsolete. The main problem with money is that it is utterly coercive as nobody likes to lose what is called wealth... but since value is merely subjective... back to square one ???



From a strictly economic sense, any economy that wishes to move beyond barter has to have a medium of exchange, or money. If ETs are baffled by money, how did they create such an advanced civilization without it?

madfranks
6th September 2013, 03:37 PM
when I used to being one of the best posters on GIM, I was an advocate of sound money... and made a U-turn as value itself is purely subjective in the end and only works within the Darwinian framework. Eventually I realize that if humans were given the dominion over Nature is to transcend it, be better than animals... also, we just cannot pay back Earth for all the environmental damages we have done. We have to overcome the "notion of time" to quit being greedy and this is the biggest challenge of all. If we could do this, any form of monetary system would become obsolete. The main problem with money is that it is utterly coercive as nobody likes to lose what is called wealth... but since value is merely subjective... back to square one ???

One thing that must be recognized is that we live in a world of finite resources. In order to maximize the potential use of these finite resources to fulfill the highest and most pressing needs of humanity, you have to have a tool which can be used to measure how useful something is compared to something else. That tool is called money, and without it, you cannot measure the value of any number of things with each other.

In order to surpass the concept of value, every finite resource must be provided in an amount sufficient enough to satisfy every want and need of every person on earth, or as vacuum put it, "They could be post-scarcity."

Serpo
6th September 2013, 03:45 PM
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4507732547797965&pid=15.1&H=120&W=160 (http://ufovideostv.com/wp-content/uploads/mvbthumbs/img_4370_real-aliens-pt-2.jpg) http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5013842872108386&pid=15.1&H=118&W=160 (http://realaliens.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Real-Aliens-Caught-On-Film-300x2231.jpg) http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4707689017836073&pid=15.1&H=160&W=118 (http://www.aliensthetruth.com/images/sightings/nightvisitors5.jpg)

ximmy
6th September 2013, 03:57 PM
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4507732547797965&pid=15.1&H=120&W=160 (http://ufovideostv.com/wp-content/uploads/mvbthumbs/img_4370_real-aliens-pt-2.jpg) http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5013842872108386&pid=15.1&H=118&W=160 (http://realaliens.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Real-Aliens-Caught-On-Film-300x2231.jpg) http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4707689017836073&pid=15.1&H=160&W=118 (http://www.aliensthetruth.com/images/sightings/nightvisitors5.jpg)


Dilemmas and the Issue with Human Contact... EEK!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63micWoxYcI

Serpo
6th September 2013, 04:10 PM
Thats the hard part ......not FREAKING OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

singular_me
10th September 2013, 04:53 PM
I didn't want to start a new thread and thought this would fit right in.... if true, maybe the proof that malevolent/interventionists- ETs are involved in the fate of our planet.

ps: this minister of defense even speaks of the Bilderbergers, and central bank conspiracy...

UFO ALIEN DISCLOSURE By Canadian Minister of Defence MAY 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDuqZbjxB_E

Cebu_4_2
10th September 2013, 06:00 PM
http://youtu.be/H6MyB74VoQ4

http://youtu.be/H6MyB74VoQ4