Seas Of Commerce

[Ares]

Simple detailed picture that shows what registering a vehicle, vessel, your name really means.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2rwanux.jpg

[palani]

How about ownerSHIP?

[Ares]

How about ownerSHIP?

Depends on who holds the usufruct. :)

[palani]

Depends on who holds the usufruct. :)
Or the use?

[Ares]

Or the use?

You playing devils advocate inquiring who benefits from the registration?

[ximmy]

"birth" comes from this too...

[gunDriller]

usufruct. :)

what is 'usufruct' ?

but it could come in handy

in a short haiku.

[Ares]

what is 'usufruct' ?

but it could come in handy

in a short haiku.

Usufruct:
Marriam Webster definition

: the legal right of using and enjoying the fruits or profits of something belonging to another
2
: the right to use or enjoy something

Wiki entry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usufruct

[palani]

In the 15 or 16th century when taxes became intolerable the concept came into being of 'trusts' and uses or usufructs. Uses permitted one to as much of a thing as he needed for survival while usufruct involved the enjoyment of the thing as well as the use.

Ownership (as closely as I can determine) involve usufructs while merely having possession of a thing for a time involves a use without the enjoyment of actually owning that thing.

Anyway ... either concept is closely connected to taxation or tax avoidance.

[Libertarian_Guard]

If I understand this correct, basically I am a ship of state?

[Ares]

If I understand this correct, basically I am a ship of state?

We all are, unfortunately. That was bestowed upon us due to our parents.

[midnight rambler]

We all are, unfortunately. That was bestowed upon us due to our parents.

Our parents abandoned us at the port of entry and then ratted us out (check to see who the 'informant' was on your BC).

On another note regarding 'seas of commerce', years ago a researcher shared what he had picked up on: that the roads and highways are considered 'rivers of asphalt' and that planet earth itself was regarded as a 'ship' sailing through space.

[Hitch]

If I understand this correct, basically I am a ship of state?

You are a registered vessel of debt. Not debt you personally create, but debt that has been assigned to you with your registration.

Even if you sink your vessel (ie die), your debt floats, and the next vessel rescues your debt and saves it. It's a great system that's been created for us.

[Glass]

yes thats pretty much it in a nut shell. You fly a flag on the open seas and have to deal with pirates. Some claim to offer you protection under their flag but they still shake you down. The policy enforcement (polic-e) guys who go around and enforce the "Accords" you have entered into or "Charters" that you are subject to are basically pirates. In Australia they still dress in navy blue, although this is gradually changing to empire black.

The governments main activity is to interdict trafficking activities. They hit all traffic any time it moves. If it moves through a port it gets hit. It it moves along a highway to a warehouse it gets hit. If it moves to a retail outlet it gets hit. This is one of the benefits of globalisation. Many more goods have to go through a port if they have to be shipped internationally than would happen if they were manufacured locally. This way they get extra opportunities to interdict it. Basically they told everyone they would have to the long way around to get their stuff.

As they only have enforcement power in an open sea situation they keep extending the reach of the sea. Ports, roads and highways all push the water in land. Railroads were also originally considered an extension of the same.

Bankruptcy = rupture upon the bank
Birth = berth. someone said that already
Banks are where the water/energy flows

Only dead people get registered at birth.
At least in Australia, NZ and Canada they do. I think US is same. Can't say for UK because laws are modifed over many hundreds of years. Still researching.

In Australia the Births deaths and marriages act states that births are still births. Same for others.

It's all very old stuff that is still in play but we don't recognise it. Pirates of the Carribean. 1st movie and also Dead Mans Chest. Both worth watching in light of this info. Like a Stanley Cubric movie. Full of clues.

[midnight rambler]

Banks are where the water/energy flows

Banks are like rivers, current/currency flows between the banks.

[osoab]

If I understand this correct, basically I am a ship of state?

You're the cargo.

[osoab]

It's all very old stuff that is still in play but we don't recognise it. Pirates of the Caribbean. 1st movie and also Dead Mans Chest. Both worth watching in light of this info. Like a Stanley Cubric movie. Full of clues.

A good palani thread.

(http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?54282-Pirates-of-the-Carribean-...-or-Why-I-Have-No-Will)Pirates of the Carribean ... or Why I Have No Will (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?54282-Pirates-of-the-Carribean-...-or-Why-I-Have-No-Will)

[Libertarian_Guard]

Banks are like rivers, current/currency flows between the banks.

The banks are more like dams.

[Libertarian_Guard]

You're the cargo.

I'm in the belly?

[palani]

I'm in the belly?

Shipped High In Transit

[Libertarian_Guard]

Shipped High In Transit

I take comfort in that. Thanks.

[govcheetos]

Lost at sea. A vessel lost is one that has totally gone from it's owners against their will, so that they know nothing of it, whether it exists or not, or one which they know is no longer within their use and control, either in consequence of capture by enemies or pirates, or an unknown foundering, or sinking by a known storm, or collision, or destruction by shipwreck.