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vacuum
13th September 2013, 11:21 AM
So apple's new iphones can read the fingerprints of the user which is touching the screen. Most people say it's no big deal, because they are already in one or more government fingerprint databases. While this new database will be much more organized, massive, and reliable, that's not the main concern with these new fingerprint readers. There are two other big issues:

- It links the real identity of the user with the online identity of the user. In other words, you become provably legally responsible for any actions taken online or using the phone because now there is proof you were actually the person using it, rather than the possibility somebody else was using your phone. There's a hard biometric link it was you.

- Moving away from passwords and moving towards fingerprints or other biometric identification methods removes your 5th amendment right not to incriminate yourself. Legally, you can't be forced to give up a password because you have the right not to self incriminate. Furthermore, you might not know or remember the password. If instead you use a fingerprint, you can be forced to give that up, similar to giving up a key or some other physical object.

So even if it's true that the phone never sends the fingerprint to the network as they claim, these two big issues still remain.

chad
13th September 2013, 11:25 AM
a friend of mine is an apple engineer. he said you can turn it off so it doesn't do anything.

Twisted Titan
13th September 2013, 11:30 AM
a friend of mine is an apple engineer. he said you can turn it off so it doesn't do anything.

For now.


That will soon be ubiquitous as a camera device on a phonee

Horn
13th September 2013, 11:36 AM
a friend of mine is an apple engineer. he said you can turn it off so it doesn't do anything.

Until they load their most popular app. to only function with fingerprint id service.

Probably online banking service.

I heard the other day on the news of an even more secure bracelet that reads your heart frequency. Even more secure than fingerprinting.

EE_
13th September 2013, 12:10 PM
So the finger print scan will be a recognizable sign/tracking code of those who have voluntarily chosen to follow the AppleChrist, and you will only be able to buy, or sell if you have an iphone. Let me guess, you will hold this chipped device in your right hand, or will you place it on your head.
Is that about it?

gunDriller
13th September 2013, 01:40 PM
So the finger print scan will be a recognizable sign/tracking code of those who have voluntarily chosen to follow the AppleChrist, and you will only be able to buy, or sell if you have an iphone. Let me guess, you will hold this chipped device in your right hand, or will you place it on your head.
Is that about it?

i think many iPhone owners may sleep with their iPhones.

Dogman
13th September 2013, 01:53 PM
So the finger print scan will be a recognizable sign/tracking code of those who have voluntarily chosen to follow the AppleChrist, and you will only be able to buy, or sell if you have an iphone. Let me guess, you will hold this chipped device in your right hand, or will you place it on your head.
Is that about it?


i think many iPhone owners may sleep with their iPhones.

What is truly scary at least for those of us that have lived here in more sane times, is watching the way kids and younger adults take to the web/connected/social lifestyle, most will not think twice about any of this, the only ones that will take exception are the ones that have a shady side. (let me count the ways) ;D

Biometrics are coming and I really can not see anyways to avoid it in the long run, other than moving to a third world country and take your chances and in time, methinks not even there one can escape.

It sucks

but that is where the trends are heading, like paperless money/cash/wealth other than physically holding it and then one will need a good paper trail to explain it.

I am glad I am over the hump and my time on this earth is limited, compared to the young ones walking and talking.

Can it be fought ? Methinks it will be like a flea trying to tell a camel what to do, and it will be done.

The times are a-changing.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCWdCKPtnYE

Note:

This post is for the majority, there will always be the underground..