Mind Science Kept Hidden Documentary (back to Max Planck)

[singular_me]

this is a mind over matter thread... :) I have decided to post this as realizing yesterday that the world is suffocated with mindless political and cultural entertainment. I have completely lost interest in the illusion, we cannot fight an illusion... I know its there but every day, I ponder the options to make a difference at my own level


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MAX PLANCK QUOTES:


“All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.” http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/379714-all-matter-originates-and-exists-only-by-virtue-of-a


http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Max_Planck

I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. As quoted in The Observer (25 January 1931)

We have no right to assume that any physical laws exist, or if they have existed up to now, that they will continue to exist in a similar manner in the future. The Universe in the Light of Modern Physics (1931)

Anybody who has been seriously engaged in scientific work of any kind realizes that over the entrance to the gates of the temple of science are written the words: Ye must have faith. It is a quality which the scientist cannot dispense with. Where Is Science Going? (1932)

It is not the possession of truth, but the success which attends the seeking after it, that enriches the seeker and brings happiness to him. Where Is Science Going? (1932)

Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are part of nature and therefore part of the mystery that we are trying to solve.

Mind Science Kept Hidden Documentary. WE ARE VIBRATIONAL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjpCKZ7cEoY

[singular_me]

I just discovered this guy: Sevan Bomar - and found what he says very interesting about the language


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2dnb_JL_CrQ

[Glass]

ah yes, as farnsworth says, the observation changes the out come. interesting stuff though.

[Twisted Titan]

tagggggggg

[optionT]

going to take a look!

[aeondaze]

What nonsense.

None of this is even remotely hidden. It is all spelled out clearly by modern quantum mechanics. That ultimately everyhting is made of energy with particular vibrations is true. Your inference that it is all based on faith and secret knowledge is complete bullocks.

Every single quote in the OP dates to 1931 to 1932 when our understanding of the quantumn nature of the sub-atomic world was in its infancy and the awe factor was large, however all the major breakthroughs and findings from Heisenberg, Balmer, Schrödinger and Planck et al, have stood the test of time. They may not make much sense in the macro-world infact they make no sense at all but at the fundamental atomic level (sub-atomic) they describe nearly perfectly the nature of matter and have done for nearly a century. That others scientists came after them and validated their findings makes these observations even less based on faith and more on provable observations.

And yes I understand the irony of using the therm 'observation' to its fullest extant more so than maybe anyone else on this board, but ultimately this is what led to these understandings about the nature of matter.

Let me finish by bursting your bubble singular_me

WE, AS HUMANS, CONSCIESNOUS AND ALL, DO NOT LIVE IN THE QUANTUM WORLD, WE LIVE IN THE CLASSICAL WORLD OF NEWTON

This cannot be refuted, regardless of your complete misunderstanding of the world of quantum mechanics.

Quantum mechanics may say make some strange observations about our physical world, but these are mostly all couched in the timeframe of infinity, meaning one would have to wait an infinite amount of time for some of these predictions to ever occur. You are not going to live that long, ultimately newtons laws apply to you more than you want to accept.

[vacuum]

I see that we interact in the quantum world in this way:

1) The brain operates on the edge of chaos (http://phys.org/news156767725.html), which means that it's possible for a few small things to change the outcome of the whole, like the butterfly effect

2) The synapses in our brains interact with the quantum world; they're separated by as little as 100 angstroms

Therefore, a few quantum effects could change the outcome of our seemingly random brain signals into a different set of seemingly random brain signals. I'm not saying we "live" in the quantum world, but I think it is possible that we may interact with it (whatever that means).

[aeondaze]

I see that we interact in the quantum world in this way:

1) The brain operates on the edge of chaos (http://phys.org/news156767725.html), which means that it's possible for a few small things to change the outcome of the whole, like the butterfly effect

2) The synapses in our brains interact with the quantum world; they're separated by as little as 100 angstroms

Therefore, a few quantum effects could change the outcome of our seemingly random brain signals into a different set of seemingly random brain signals. I'm not saying we "live" in the quantum world, but I think it is possible that we may interact with it (whatever that means).

Sure. Quantum mechanics says a lot of bizare things about the physics of our world, have they been shown to have any percetable effect on our consciesnos, no. Does it mean that parts of our neurochemistry exhibit odd behaviour, maybe. Is at all relevant to the way we 'pervieve' the world, not in the slightest.

No ones trying to fool anybody here. Those that claim this haven't the slightest real world understanding of the maths involved or even the theories that govern the quantum world. It's all abot baffling them with bullshit, with just a hint of scientific 'truth'

[singular_me]

I could go along with this... but as matter of fact, The Field/Spirit, quantum physics, dominates everything eventually... you are not bursting my bubble but that of Max Planks, which I agree with. :) Maybe aren't you enough aware but I am witnessing this every day... not that I understand it completely, but as Planck puts it, we might and most likely never know how the Field/Matrix operates. It is the quantum Mind (call it God if you wish) that created us/the material world/newton world, so why resisting this concept... and that the latter interacts wit our synapses/consciousness 24/7.

seems to me that you have a problem to merge both worlds, I do not

your take on this topic may be leaning toward atheism ???


What nonsense.

Let me finish by bursting your bubble singular_me

WE, AS HUMANS, CONSCIESNOUS AND ALL, DO NOT LIVE IN THE QUANTUM WORLD, WE LIVE IN THE CLASSICAL WORLD OF NEWTON

This cannot be refuted, regardless of your complete misunderstanding of the world of quantum mechanics.
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[singular_me]

I downloaded 3 vids by that guy yesterday... I recommend his talk on the Innerverse... interestingly he is a man of color.



I just discovered this guy: Sevan Bomar - and found what he says very interesting about the language


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2dnb_JL_CrQ

[singular_me]

I don't think Newton theories explain for example why comets whose trajectories are defying our laws of physics and are very hazardous objects capable to blow up earth - and why there is a massive black hole at the center of every galaxy... or black holes floating around in the cosmos and gobbling everything up that is close to them. It is often said that we day we comprehend black holes formation, all we think we know about the Universe will go bunk... If our galaxy collided with another one, you can say bye-bye to our solar systems. Sciences will be always prove any theories incorrect as long as we neglect to take into account the Field/Matrix... the only thing is that we may never know how the Field/Matrix really works..
I think t takes courage to admit that we can be proven wrong at anytime... since there is a Force that is just beyond our reality. And the latter will always push our understanding threshold. The best attitude, in my view, is to surrender to It as chaos is out there always lurking to remind us that we live in an Great Illusion. We just happen to replace one Illusion by Another. Life is a trip which is defined by our awareness - or lack thereof... maybe the secret is to view Death differently, so we can develop an Universal Mind ourselves.



Sure. Quantum mechanics says a lot of bizare things about the physics of our world, have they been shown to have any percetable effect on our consciesnos, no. Does it mean that parts of our neurochemistry exhibit odd behaviour, maybe. Is at all relevant to the way we 'pervieve' the world, not in the slightest.

No ones trying to fool anybody here. Those that claim this haven't the slightest real world understanding of the maths involved or even the theories that govern the quantum world. It's all abot baffling them with bullshit, with just a hint of scientific 'truth'