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mick silver
21st September 2013, 12:00 PM
Food stamps again a vivid symbol in poverty debate



















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http://l.yimg.com/os/152/2012/04/21/image001-png_162613.png (http://www.ap.org/) CONNIE CASS and MARY CLARE JALONICK 10 hours ago






WASHINGTON (AP) — Food stamps have figured in Americans' ideas about the poor for decades, from President Lyndon Johnson's vision of a Great Society to President Ronald Reagan's scorn for crooked "welfare queens" and President Bill Clinton's pledge to "end welfare as we know it."
Partisans tend to see what they want to see in the food stamp program: barely enough bread and milk to sustain hungry children, or chips and soda — maybe even steak and illicit beer — for cheaters and layabouts gaming the system.
Those differences were on display Thursday when the House voted to cut almost $4 billion a year, or 5 percent, from the roughly $80 billion-a-year program.
The House bill would tighten eligibility standards, allow states to impose new work requirements and permit drug testing for recipients, among other cuts to spending. A Senate bill would cut around one-tenth of the amount of the House bill, or $400 million a year.
Republicans argued that work requirements target the aid to the neediest people. Democrats said the swelling rolls — more than 47 million people are now using the food stamps, or 1 in 7 Americans — show that the program is working at a time of high unemployment and great need.
A look at the history and future of food stamps:
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NO MORE STAMPS
These days, people in the nation's largest food aid program pay with plastic.
These special debit cards are swiped at convenience store or supermarket checkouts to pay for groceries. The cards can't be used for alcohol or cigarettes or nonfood items such as toothpaste, paper towels or dog chow. Junk food or high-priced treats are OK.
The first food stamps were a temporary plan to help feed the hungry toward the end of the Great Depression of the 1930s. The government subsidized the cost of blue stamps that poor people used to buy food from farm surpluses.
The idea was revived in the 1960s and expanded under Johnson into a permanent program that sold food coupons to low-income people at a discount. Beginning in the 1970s, food stamps were given to the poor for free. Benefit cards began replacing paper in the 1980s, a move designed to reduce fraud and ease the embarrassment food stamp users felt at the cash register.
Food stamps aren't the government's only way to feed those in need. There are more than a dozen smaller programs, including the one for Women, Infants and Children, and free and reduced-price school lunches.
In 2008, food stamps were officially renamed the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP. Most people still know the name that's been familiar since 1939.
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ONE IN EVERY 7 AMERICANS
In a nation of 314 million people, more than 47 million are eating with food stamps each month.
Who are they? Children and teenagers make up almost half, according to the Agriculture Department. About 10 percent are seniors.
The vast majority don't receive any cash welfare. Many households that shop with SNAP cards have someone who's employed but qualify for help because of low earnings.
The average food stamp allotment is $133 a person per month. The monthly amount a family gets depends on the household's size, earnings and expenses, as well as changing food prices and other factors.
Households can qualify for help with earnings up to 30 percent higher than the federal poverty level, making the limit about $30,000 for a family of four this year. These households are limited to no more than $2,000 in savings, or $3,250 if there are elderly or disabled residents.
In addition, most states allow people to qualify automatically for food stamps if they are eligible for certain other welfare programs, even if they don't meet the strict SNAP standards. Although food stamps are paid for with federal tax dollars, states administer the program and have some choices in setting requirements.
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Language in Clinton's 1996 welfare overhaul required able-bodied adults who aren't raising children to work or attend job training or similar programs to qualify for food stamps after three months. But those work requirements across most of the nation have been waived for several years because of the high unemployment rate.
People who are living in the United States illegally aren't eligible for food stamps. Most adults who immigrate legally aren't eligible during their first five years in the country.
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RISING LIKE YEAST
The cost to taxpayers more than doubled over just four years, from $38 billion in 2008 to $78 billion last year.
Liberals see a program responding to rising need at a time of economic turmoil. Conservatives see out-of-control spending, and many Republicans blame President Barack Obama. While seeking the GOP presidential nomination in 2012, Newt Gingrich labeled Obama the "food stamp president."
Some of the growth can be attributed to Obama's food stamp policies, but Congress' budget analysts blame most of it on the economy.
The big factors:
—The SNAP program is an entitlement, meaning everyone who is eligible can get aid, no matter the cost to taxpayers.
—Millions of jobs were lost in the recession that hit in 2007. Unemployment is still high, and many people who have jobs are working fewer hours or for lower pay than before, meaning more people are eligible.
—Obama's 2009 economic stimulus temporarily increased benefit amounts; that boost is set to expire on Nov. 1. Time limits for jobless adults without dependents are still being waived in most of the country.
—Food stamp eligibility requirements were loosened by Congress in 2002 and 2008, before Obama became president.
—Fluctuating food prices have driven up monthly benefit amounts, which are based on a low-cost diet.
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FEWER TO FEED?
The number of people using food stamps appears to be leveling off this year, and long-term budget projections suggest the number will begin to fall as the economy improves.
Why is it taking so long? Although the jobless rate has dropped from its 2009 peak, it remains high, leaving a historically large number of people eligible for food stamps. Since the recession began, a bigger portion of people who are eligible have signed up for food stamps than in the past.
Many people who enrolled during the worst days of the recession still qualify for SNAP cards, even if they are doing a little better now. For example, they may have gone from being laid off to working a low-paying or part-time job.
The Congressional Budget Office predicts in about a decade the number of people using food stamps will drop to 34 million, or about 1 in every 10 people.
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FOOD AND FRAUD
Abuse was a worry from the start. The 1939 food stamp program was launched in May and by that October a retailer had been caught violating the rules.
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There's been progress along the way, especially after the nationwide adoption of SNAP cards, which are harder to sell for cash than paper coupons were. The government says such "trafficking" in food stamps has fallen significantly over the past two decades, from about 4 cents on the dollar in 1993 to a penny per dollar in 2008.
But many lawmakers say fraud is still costing taxpayers too much. Some people lie about their income, apply for benefits in multiple states or fail to quit the program when their earnings go up. Recipients must tell their state agency within 10 days if their income goes over the limit.
Some stores illegally accept food stamps to pay for other merchandise, even beer or electronics, or give out cash at a cut rate in exchange for phony food purchases, which are then reimbursed by the government.
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FOOD AND FARMS
In Congress, it's a marriage of convenience.
Food stamp policy has been packaged in the same bill with farm subsidies and other agricultural programs since the 1970s. It was a canny way of assuring that urban lawmakers who wanted the poverty program would vote for farm spending. That worked until this year, when conservatives balked at the skyrocketing cost of food stamps.
In June, a farm bill that included food stamps was defeated in the Republican-led House because fiscal conservatives felt it didn't cut the program deeply enough.
In response, GOP leaders split the food and farm programs in two. The House passed the farm version in July and the food stamp version on Thursday. Both passed with narrow votes.
The House and Senate versions must be reconciled before the five-year farm bill can become law, and that won't be an easy task.
Food stamps remain in the farm bill passed by the Senate. That bill made only a half-percent cut to food stamps and the Democratic-led Senate will be reluctant to cut more deeply or to evict the poverty program from its home in the farm bill. Obama supported the cuts in the Senate bill, but has opposed any changes beyond that. The White House threatened to veto the House food stamp bill.
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WHAT NOW?
The current farm and food law expires at the end of the month.
If the two sides can't agree by then, a likely scenario, Congress could vote to extend the law as it is, at the expense of many planned updates to agricultural policy. There won't be much urgency to do that until the end of the year, when some dairy supports expire and milk prices could rise.
Other farm supports won't expire until next year, but farmers have been frustrated with the drawn-out debate that has now lasted two years, saying they need more government certainty as they manage their farm operations.
SNAP benefits would still be available for now. While farm bills set food stamp policy, the money is paid out through annual appropriations bills that so far have left benefits intact.
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Online:
Agriculture Department: http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap



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Shami-Amourae
21st September 2013, 01:27 PM
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Barbaro
21st September 2013, 01:47 PM
Food stamps are not a part of the "poverty debate," but the "entitlements debate."

About 7-8 years ago it became another entitlement program. Just making it easier for people to qualify. Some people and families needed and that is what it should be there for. But now it's just another payment.

Silver Rocket Bitches!
21st September 2013, 01:48 PM
There's no accountability in these programs. Anyone who has a SNAP card can give it to whoever they want and as long as they have the pin they can buy all the food they want. This encourages drug users to sell their card for pennies on the dollar in exchange for drugs. They should have the types of food appropriated on the cards to simulate the stamps programs where a stamp at one time got you one gallon of milk and another stamp got you some cheese. This shit where you can take your card and buy a year's supply of Twinkies and a gallon of Pepsi has got to go.

Cebu_4_2
21st September 2013, 08:08 PM
There's no accountability in these programs. Anyone who has a SNAP card can give it to whoever they want and as long as they have the pin they can buy all the food they want. This encourages drug users to sell their card for pennies on the dollar in exchange for drugs. They should have the types of food appropriated on the cards to simulate the stamps programs where a stamp at one time got you one gallon of milk and another stamp got you some cheese. This shit where you can take your card and buy a year's supply of Twinkies and a gallon of Pepsi has got to go.

Your referring to the coupons that are for specific items, knew someone with them. All the shit it allowed was in my view all crap food. Processed, refined, crap. The cards can be used for just about anything edible except alcohol and tobacco.

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Twisted Titan
27th September 2013, 09:10 AM
They will do nothing about it.

If they cut SNAP they will have a 50 million army looking for their head.

You dont have enough bullets to snuff them all.

madfranks
27th September 2013, 11:12 AM
Americans want their free goodies. They don't care who pays for it, as long as it's someone else.

Ponce
27th September 2013, 11:24 AM
We just to have a Col. in Alaska (CMH holder) who would not eat till everyone else ate first.......Prv's would be the first ones then the Sgts and then the officers and with him being the last one......same should apply to our poleticians.

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Hitch
27th September 2013, 12:03 PM
Those differences were on display Thursday when the House voted to cut almost $4 billion a year, or 5 percent, from the roughly $80 billion-a-year program.
The House bill would tighten eligibility standards, allow states to impose new work requirements and permit drug testing for recipients, among other cuts to spending.

I think drug testing requirements are a step in the right direction. I'm not going to judge a person if they choose to sit around on drugs, as long as they are not harming others. However, I don't think it's right that the rest of us have to pay for it.

I also think auditing of purchases is a good idea. People who need food stamps should keep their receipts to prove that they are indeed buying the food they need.

mick silver
27th September 2013, 12:07 PM
people with stamp card come in our store an buy shit they dont need . like those super enegy drinks