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Horn
30th September 2013, 10:24 AM
Originally published on Sept. 24 and subsequently updated.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/09/28/what-to-expect-when-youre-expecting-a-shutdown/

mamboni
30th September 2013, 11:17 AM
Originally published on Sept. 24 and subsequently updated.


http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/09/28/what-to-expect-when-youre-expecting-a-shutdown/

Basically, the government shutting down is a good thing. Only "essential services" continue unchanged and all the alphabet agencies like FDA, HUD, IRS, CFTC etc. either shutdown or furlough down to a skeleton crew. This sounds like a win win for the taxpayers. Let's shut the government down permanently. What say you?

Ponce
30th September 2013, 11:35 AM
Come on Horn, don't become another General by posting only the heading.......I never click on his and I will not click on yours.........from the one and only :)'

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ximmy
30th September 2013, 12:26 PM
Baby panda will die if government doesn't raise the debt ceiling



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chad
30th September 2013, 01:02 PM
doesn't qe kind of blow up/stop if this happens? i mean, the treasury can't issue new bonds and the fed can't use the bond wire service to buy them if the gov. shuts down correct? doesn't this make the treasury market go in to nuclear bomb mode?

Horn
30th September 2013, 01:02 PM
Come on Horn, don't become another General by posting only the heading.......I never click on his and I will not click on yours.........from the one and only :)'

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*Special exemptions for Political refugees will not be processed.


Will I be able to get a passport?

Travelers will still be able to apply for passports, since consular operations will “remain 100% operational as long as there are sufficient fees to support operations,” according to plans released Friday. Complications could arise if a passport agency is located in a government building closed by the shutdown, but the under secretary for management will treat those on a “case-by-case basis,” according to the plan.
What other services will be halted?
-Applications for small business loans will not be processed.
- Civil litigation will be curtailed.
- Census data collection will be halted.
- Medical research will be interrupted.
- Gun permit applications will experience delays.
- The IRS will cancel audit appointments.
- All work on offshore renewable energy projects and the five-year offshore oil drilling plan will be suspended.
- The Department of Education could have to delay its issuing of competitive and formula grant awards later this year.
- Workplace dispute cases would not be resolved until after the shutdown, as the National Labor Relations Board would halt all case handling.
- E-Verify, the online system allowing employers to determine whether prospective employees are eligible to work in the U.S., will not function during a shutdown. More than 404,000 employers are enrolled in the system, and more than 21 million requests were filed through the system during FY2012, according to the Department of Homeland Security’s contingency plan.

Twisted Titan
30th September 2013, 01:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoS52fVtVQM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Horn
30th September 2013, 01:28 PM
doesn't qe kind of blow up/stop if this happens? i mean, the treasury can't issue new bonds and the fed can't use the bond wire service to buy them if the gov. shuts down correct? doesn't this make the treasury market go in to nuclear bomb mode?

Isn't that a completely separate entity the Congress has no control over whatsoever?

chad
30th September 2013, 01:41 PM
i dunno. i guess i don't understand how the wire exchange can work amongst the treasury, fed, and primary dealers if the government is shut down.

gunDriller
30th September 2013, 01:45 PM
doesn't qe kind of blow up/stop if this happens? i mean, the treasury can't issue new bonds and the fed can't use the bond wire service to buy them if the gov. shuts down correct? doesn't this make the treasury market go in to nuclear bomb mode?


i'm not sure what's different now.

i remember in August 2011. the rise of Gold to $1900 seemed to have something to do with the debt ceiling debate.


now we have a similar (or identical ?) situation, except with Obama-care mixed in.

& Gold where it is.


but Magic Neighbor is helping me fix some stuff on my house so i got to run !

Horn
30th September 2013, 01:49 PM
i dunno. i guess i don't understand how the wire exchange can work amongst the treasury, fed, and primary dealers if the government is shut down.

If any hurdles to private Fed interest and manipulation were installed, they were probably removed by special proxy committee during the Reagan era.

To guarantee and insure a brighter American future of course.

It would have stopped in the last shutdown.

Santa
30th September 2013, 02:11 PM
Basically, the government shutting down is a good thing. Only "essential services" continue unchanged and all the alphabet agencies like FDA, HUD, IRS, CFTC etc. either shutdown or furlough down to a skeleton crew. This sounds like a win win for the taxpayers. Let's shut the government down permanently. What say you?

They'll sell all military and public sector assets off to the highest bidder. Probably to a consortium of International Banks and their subsidiaries.

Oh wait... they've already done that. Maybe they'll start up regional high tech soylent green food factories.

Ponce
30th September 2013, 05:23 PM
If they closed down the governmnet then.....to whom will the Zionists give order to?.......nawwwww, those people will save the US government.....after all, who are the ones that controls the green backs in this land?

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Horn
1st October 2013, 07:15 AM
There may be a danger here that the peoples see that a Fed. gov. shutdown really does change much at all.

And ask themselves Why are they paying so much money in taxes for it?

Because of a mandate that sheep must follow.

Horn
1st October 2013, 08:03 AM
You'll have to admit a false flag happening at this juncture,

would more or less convince the people that Congress should not have the power to dictate anything in the future.