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Libertytree
30th September 2013, 11:32 AM
I really don't know where I stand in their eyes in this mess. My income falls way short and isn't traceable for that matter either. But what happens if I have to go to a doc, even if I have cash in hand? Will I then be thrust into the system, turned in to some agency? IDK? I do know that I don't believe it's right to force anyone to pay for my healthcare or anything else but I feel like we're being herded into a system that I loathe and do not want to participate in. This sucks! The harder I try to stay out of their system the harder they go at reeling me/us in.

So...anyone got a plan? Suggestions?

palani
30th September 2013, 11:44 AM
LEGAL NOTICE

Libertytree is seeking qualified medical services of a private nature. Healthcare providers desiring to be considered as suppliers for these unspecified services are directed to contact Libertytree at his private address with qualifications and hourly rate for services. Libertytree is an equal opportunity contractor and anyone responding may be assured that transactions shall not be reported to any 3rd party not privy to the contract.


EDITED TO ADD

Above is a suggestion to stay away from PUBLIC PROVIDED SERVICES and SEEK PRIVATE HEATH CARE PROVIDERS. The suggestion might take the form of a LEGAL NOTICE or you might place a free ad on CRAIGSLIST or make a hard copy and HANG IT FROM THE OAK TREE IN THE COURTHOUSE SQUARE.

vacuum
30th September 2013, 11:46 AM
Go to mexico? the philippines?

Cebu_4_2
30th September 2013, 11:50 AM
If you fall into poverty zone you will be covered by medicare. Not as bad as it sounds because if you aren't covered for say an emergency you will have to liquidate everything, declare BK and stress out over the whole deal, or give it all up to comply with the charges. The system fucked me, my turn now. If this wasn't a preplanned extinction of the middle class, or any class I would be just fine. Fuck them. Don't forget food stamps!

Cebu_4_2
30th September 2013, 11:51 AM
Go to mexico? the philippines?

RT to the phil running 1200.00, 900.00 if you fly out from the left coast.

ximmy
30th September 2013, 11:58 AM
off the grid doctor network...

mamboni
30th September 2013, 12:12 PM
Start looking for local docs who will work or cash or barter off the grid - they're out there. Make friendly ovations now. You're not alone - there are many in your position. Yes, Obamacare is an underhanded and duplicitous ploy to get people lkie you on to the tax rolls. The governent doesn't give two shits about your health or welfare. Hence, which agency administers Obamacare? All together now: THE I.R.S.

I expect that Homeland Security is already providing prerecorded messages to local police megaphones such as: "bring out yer dead...bring out yer dead.....bring out yer dead."

Libertytree
30th September 2013, 12:29 PM
LEGAL NOTICE

Libertytree is seeking qualified medical services of a private nature. Healthcare providers desiring to be considered as suppliers for these unspecified services are directed to contact Libertytree at his private address with qualifications and hourly rate for services. Libertytree is an equal opportunity contractor and anyone responding may be assured that transactions shall not be reported to any 3rd party not privy to the contract.

Did you even read my post? Nowhere did I solicit services of any kind from anyone, just opinions of what I assume others have been thinking about as well.

ShortJohnSilver
30th September 2013, 12:35 PM
I really don't know where I stand in their eyes in this mess. My income falls way short and isn't traceable for that matter either. But what happens if I have to go to a doc, even if I have cash in hand? Will I then be thrust into the system, turned in to some agency? IDK? I do know that I don't believe it's right to force anyone to pay for my healthcare or anything else but I feel like we're being herded into a system that I loathe and do not want to participate in. This sucks! The harder I try to stay out of their system the harder they go at reeling me/us in.

So...anyone got a plan? Suggestions?

There is PAYGO, pay as you go. Some doctors have standardized cash-payment price lists. I don't know the area of the country you are in, so I can't be more specific. e.g. a google search for "pay as you go medical care wisconsin" would give you WI info.

chad
30th September 2013, 12:56 PM
just pretend you don';t speak english and are from mexico. then you will get free health care, a house, a boston whaler, 2 cars and free college also.

palani
30th September 2013, 02:02 PM
Did you even read my post? Nowhere did I solicit services of any kind from anyone, just opinions of what I assume others have been thinking about as well.

Ok. I modified my post to make it simpler to understand.

Cebu_4_2
30th September 2013, 02:34 PM
or make a hard copy and HANG IT FROM THE OAK TREE IN THE COURTHOUSE SQUARE.

Littering 500 dollars and/or 30 days in jail.

Horn
30th September 2013, 02:43 PM
Obamacare designed so that it effectively replaces all other forms, (excluding the special U.S. political insurance) is simply an ancillary component to monarchy in the U.S.

Many other laws are already installed, and have been for decades to guarantee monarchy in the U.S.

Shami-Amourae
30th September 2013, 02:43 PM
I really don't know where I stand in their eyes in this mess. My income falls way short and isn't traceable for that matter either. But what happens if I have to go to a doc, even if I have cash in hand? Will I then be thrust into the system, turned in to some agency? IDK? I do know that I don't believe it's right to force anyone to pay for my healthcare or anything else but I feel like we're being herded into a system that I loathe and do not want to participate in. This sucks! The harder I try to stay out of their system the harder they go at reeling me/us in.

So...anyone got a plan? Suggestions?

If it's not something like a broken leg, gunshot wound, or something, then you should never NEED to go to a doctor. Even if it's a cavity, it's treatable. Just post your issue on the Health sub-forum on this forum.

I've been able to treat and cure basically all of my health conditions using naturopathy, diet changes, and detoxification. The most important thing right now is to teach yourself naturopathic medicine, and be around those who can help you. Feel free to ask me pretty much anything since I study this stuff all the time and try to help others as my way to "fight back" against the System.

You can treat yourself with most problems just using this website:
http://www.earthclinic.com/ailments.html

Simply find the issue, try some of the possible solutions. Usually that will do it for me, but if not, you have plenty of people here who would love to help you. Ever since I've studied naturopathy since about 2009 or so I've never once been to a doctor. I almost never get sick, and if I do I wipe it out with my remedies without minutes typically. This is coming from someone who required shots every other day just to live "normally", and I spent $25 a day in medication.

gunDriller
30th September 2013, 02:51 PM
Ok. I modified my post to make it simpler to understand.

i thought you were basically kidding, it was an attempt at humor.


i started the year by heading to Tijuana to see a GP, while visiting family in San Diego.

i am asking people more questions that relate to ex-pat'ing. e.g. i have a neighbor helping me with some stuff, he expat'ed to NZ to live with his partner/ girlfriend.


expat'ing is a lot of work AND some countries have huge import duties on tools.


the Obamacare individual mandate is coming fast.

Libertytree
30th September 2013, 02:56 PM
Ok. I modified my post to make it simpler to understand.

I reckon I'm simple then but why not just say that in the 1st place?

ximmy
30th September 2013, 03:03 PM
the Obamacare individual mandate is coming fast.

It is coming fast but not for our health, only the gleaning of our dollars for their pockets... their itchy fingers can't wait...

Libertytree
30th September 2013, 03:07 PM
i thought you were basically kidding, it was an attempt at humor.


i started the year by heading to Tijuana to see a GP, while visiting family in San Diego.

i am asking people more questions that relate to ex-pat'ing. e.g. i have a neighbor helping me with some stuff, he expat'ed to NZ to live with his partner/ girlfriend.


expat'ing is a lot of work AND some countries have huge import duties on tools.


the Obamacare individual mandate is coming fast.

Hell yes it's coming fast! They've hired hundreds if not thousands of people to accomplish this.

Horn
30th September 2013, 03:12 PM
Obama is speaking right now,

again he's apparently convinced that congress cannot stop funding his mandated LAW that requires funding.

palani
30th September 2013, 03:28 PM
why not just say that in the 1st place?

Hmmmm.. Thought you had been aware of my thread on the topic.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63041-A-Legal-Notice&highlight=notice

palani
30th September 2013, 03:36 PM
i thought you were basically kidding, it was an attempt at humor.

Legal notices are YOUR opportunity to write Law. By a legal notice you may profess to own a flying pig or ask creditors or debtors to clear their accounts or make themselves known. You might emancipate a slave (not advisable as this type of ownership is frowned upon) or you might emancipate a son or daughter. You might find abandoned property and advise the public that you have abated the nuisance that property presented to society. What you request of the public takes on the nature of a contract all by itself and (since you have made your notice public) concealment cannot be held against you.

Want to take a hunting vacation and unsure whether there is a warrant out against you? Place a public notice in the paper or at the courthouse. If there is a warrant and you left the state as a fugitive and are caught with a gun then the punishment is going to be 10x worse than if you let everyone know where you are going and when you are going to be back.

Your legal notices are in status equal to or superior to anything any other court publishes.

palani
30th September 2013, 03:47 PM
Littering 500 dollars and/or 30 days in jail.


461A.43 Littering grounds.
No person shall place any waste, refuse, litter or foreign substance in any area or receptacle except those provided for that purpose.

Is a common law legal notice posted for the benefit of the public waste? Is it refuse? Is it litter? Is it a foreign substance?

Show a little common sense. If you post a notice for 30 days be sure and come back to remove it after the time is up. If someone takes your notice down before then have they not accepted service of the notice?

Libertytree
30th September 2013, 03:53 PM
Hmmmm.. Thought you had been aware of my thread on the topic.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63041-A-Legal-Notice&highlight=notice

Well, I reckon you didn't post proper notice that we were all supposed to be aware of such.

Horn
30th September 2013, 04:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePRYhNNdzwk

palani
30th September 2013, 04:32 PM
Well, I reckon you didn't post proper notice that we were all supposed to be aware of such.

The thread itself is NOTICE. Ignorance might be of two sorts: law or fact. While you might claim to never have read the notice ignorance of it is not excusable.

gunDriller
30th September 2013, 05:47 PM
Legal notices are YOUR opportunity to write Law. By a legal notice you may profess to own a flying pig or ask creditors or debtors to clear their accounts or make themselves known. You might emancipate a slave (not advisable as this type of ownership is frowned upon) or you might emancipate a son or daughter. You might find abandoned property and advise the public that you have abated the nuisance that property presented to society. What you request of the public takes on the nature of a contract all by itself and (since you have made your notice public) concealment cannot be held against you.

Want to take a hunting vacation and unsure whether there is a warrant out against you? Place a public notice in the paper or at the courthouse. If there is a warrant and you left the state as a fugitive and are caught with a gun then the punishment is going to be 10x worse than if you let everyone know where you are going and when you are going to be back.

Your legal notices are in status equal to or superior to anything any other court publishes.


it sounds like you have experience dealing with legal stuff.


as an example, Amazon has a fvcked up supposedly interest free for 15 months financing.

i was one day late on a payment, mailed a week before the deadline but not early enough - maybe it took them a few days to process it.

anyway, they started hitting me with fees, which i'm sure is great for their profits.

(yes, i could have done without, but i wanted to take advantage of a student ID before the end of that quarter to get the educational discount on some really good software - but first i needed the hardware to install it on.)


if i ran a legal notice in the paper stating that Amazon has the legal obligation to pay me $1000 every time they charge me a service fee while i am in the 'interest free' part of the loan (if my payment is on-schedule, which can be proved via checking account records), and they don't counter that legal notice - can i then go to them and demand $2000 next time they hit me with 2 fees after 2 months of making an on-time payment ?

OK, that's my idea.


anyway, just interested in how to use the 'legal notice technique' to "fight back".


or, once i got pulled over for (literally) using my windshield wipers on a rainy day. cop on a fishing expedition.

can i use a legal notice to inform the city that they next time they pull me over, without cause, that they will be paying me $10,000 cash ? --AND MAKE IT STICK ? -- in a court where the judge is buddies with the cops ?

palani
30th September 2013, 06:07 PM
it sounds like you have experience dealing with legal stuff. Not enough to be advising anyone else. What is presented here is for education and entertainment.



if i ran a legal notice in the paper stating that Amazon has the legal obligation to pay me $1000 every time they charge me a service fee while i am in the 'interest free' part of the loan (if my payment is on-schedule, which can be proved via checking account records), and they don't counter that legal notice - can i then go to them and demand $2000 next time they hit me with 2 fees after 2 months of making an on-time payment ?
When dealing with a specific entity you don't really want to bother the public. You want to engage Amazon with a contract then send your offer to them and if they accept it (i.e., don't send it back) then you have something to hold them to.




just interested in how to use the 'legal notice technique' to "fight back". Several ways I have used it
1) When O took office I put in a legal notice that anyone who wanted to become part of my government needed to send me a certified copy of their oath and bond. No response so my government is rather small.
2) I notified the public that I don't accept FRNs but preferred to do business in gold or silver.
3) I notified the public that a bond in the amount of twenty one silver dollars had been sent to Treasury and that any debts I had outstanding would be covered by the same bond.




can i use a legal notice to inform the city that they next time they pull me over, without cause, that they will be paying me $10,000 cash ? --AND MAKE IT STICK ? -- in a court where the judge is buddies with the cops ? Again ... when you make the notice IN GENERAL rather than addressed to a specific entity (your city) you are better off. Say .. gunDriller gives the public notice that he will provide emergency services to any government agency requiring those services of him but, being his private property, values said property at $5,000 an instance.

Now when the coppiceman turns on his EMERGENCY lights to pull you over and there is no emergency on your part you might then turn around and bill him for the services he is demanding of you.

Libertytree
30th September 2013, 06:14 PM
The thread itself is NOTICE. Ignorance might be of two sorts: law or fact. While you might claim to never have read the notice ignorance of it is not excusable.

Total fucking horseshit. If you had PM'd me, maybe. You didn't adequately notify me, you sir are in default.

Horn
30th September 2013, 06:19 PM
What is presented here is for education and entertainment.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCTlxakFhBk

palani
30th September 2013, 06:22 PM
Total fucking horseshit. If you had PM'd me, maybe. You didn't adequately notify me, you sir are in default.
These threads all public notice to ALL members.

You ARE a member aren't you?

palani
30th September 2013, 06:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCTlxakFhBk

Had someone mentioned having a headache and I (being of a kind and generous nature) suggested an aspirin would I not be guilty of practicing medicine without a license?

No ... we talk of many things here ... but few things legal pass.

7th trump
30th September 2013, 07:20 PM
The thread itself is NOTICE. Ignorance might be of two sorts: law or fact. While you might claim to never have read the notice ignorance of it is not excusable.
So when you post on this forum and say "ignorance of it is not excusable" then why do you refuse to read statutes and demonstrate you know law?
Statutes are notices by your very own definition Palani....why are you a hypocrite acting like you are smarter than a lawyer?

Wouldn't it be more profitable for you to just go and read the statutes than trying to fool these people on this forum into thinking you understand them?

Atocha
30th September 2013, 07:33 PM
just pretend you don';t speak english and are from mexico. then you will get free health care, a house, a boston whaler, 2 cars and free college also.

Que que? (Say what?).
Lol. Sarcasm

palani
30th September 2013, 07:35 PM
So when you post on this forum and say "ignorance of it is not excusable" then why do you refuse to read statutes and demonstrate you know law?

You are out of your mind. Obamacare is a document of 1,600 pages in length. CONGRESS has not even read this document in entirety. It most certainly has not been READ ALOUD three times on the floor of congress as is required prior to making it law.

Besides ... I have no DUTY established to read this document ... much less attempt to understand it .. or be held accountable to it.

7th trump
30th September 2013, 07:51 PM
You are out of your mind. Obamacare is a document of 1,600 pages in length. CONGRESS has not even read this document in entirety. It most certainly has not been READ ALOUD three times on the floor of congress as is required prior to making it law.

Besides ... I have no DUTY established to read this document ... much less attempt to understand it .. or be held accountable to it.

Blah blah blah......
You may not have a DUTY to read it, however just because you tell yourself you don't have a duty doesn't magically make obammacare go away.
With your logic I suppose believe you float because you didn't study the law of gravity....hahahaha!

palani
30th September 2013, 07:54 PM
because you tell yourself you don't have a duty doesn't magically make obammacare go away. Duty is derived from oath or contract. I don't appear to have an oath and a contract for over the amount required by the statute of fraud requires a writing ... so kindly produce said document.




I suppose believe you float because you didn't study the law of gravity....hahahaha!

Not only can I float but I can stay submerged for long periods with the aid of a SCUBA tank and some additional equipment.

http://8020.photos.jpgmag.com/185767_48488_d268f6894a_p.jpg

7th trump
30th September 2013, 08:56 PM
Duty is derived from oath or contract. I don't appear to have an oath and a contract for over the amount required by the statute of fraud requires a writing ... so kindly produce said document.





Not only can I float but I can stay submerged for long periods with the aid of a SCUBA tank and some additional equipment.

http://8020.photos.jpgmag.com/185767_48488_d268f6894a_p.jpg

Ohhhh please palani!
Stop with the legalese lawyer games will you?
Can you ever answer a question straight forward?

So the statute of fraud applies when you want it to, but the other statutes in law don't huh?
You are a slippery pretend lawyer wantabe character make no mistake about it.

Hypertiger
30th September 2013, 09:39 PM
obamacare is named after him because he is a scapegoat.

there was no way Obamacare had a hope of being a smooth "install"

it is a program...and it was forced on the population...sold as the candle of hope for the future.

but I saw it as a stick of dynamite from square one.

Obamacare was a killer app from square one.

In order to change the US medical/health care system into something different.

Would take decades.

as soon as I heard about Obamacare...I knew it was FUBAR from square one.

But everyone else seemed to think it was viable...

it was designed to produce the blue screen of death...that it is producing.

it has deadlocked Washington DC.

the two party system that fights back and forth positive and negative...is the Alternating current or AC that powers DC.

in computer processing...when the demand for supply fails...deadlock.

computers use pure logic to run programs created by absolute self indulgent reason.

the Universe does as well...behind what you see...which is a reasonable assumption.

is the logical conclusion.

Obamacare is like malware or a Trojan horse basically...and social engineering was employed to obtain access to input it.

the majority has fallen for it...and believe it works...yes it is working...to drive the population insane.

Cebu_4_2
30th September 2013, 09:48 PM
to drive the population insane.

No, to squish the last few pennies left of the people that made this country. Next generation will be yours, I hope you can understand it.

Hitch
30th September 2013, 10:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCTlxakFhBk

Awesome. I don't think there's any creature God created, that has more cock and balls than a lion. They say if you choose to hunt them, they end up hunting you.

Palani, a question..

Your quote. "When dealing with a specific entity you don't really want to bother the public. You want to engage Amazon with a contract then send your offer to them and if they accept it (i.e., don't send it back) then you have something to hold them to."

So, basically, you choose to power over Amazon based upon a lack of response. Or, in your words, ignorance in response. Amazon should always "know" when folks try to engage them in contract.

This is the very root of evil in our system. Take liens. Banks are seizing homes from folks who have liens on them, because they auction off those liens. The homeowner, some guy just living his life and doesn't know there's a lien, loses everything.

So, in your world, I need to expend all my energy protecting myself from predators who seek upon the ignorant.

That is bullshit, and unjust.

Horn
1st October 2013, 01:22 AM
Had someone mentioned having a headache and I (being of a kind and generous nature) suggested an aspirin would I not be guilty of practicing medicine without a license?

No ... we talk of many things here ... but few things legal pass.

I've just been mandated a placebo in place of aspirin.

palani
1st October 2013, 04:56 AM
Palani, a question..

Your quote. "When dealing with a specific entity you don't really want to bother the public. You want to engage Amazon with a contract then send your offer to them and if they accept it (i.e., don't send it back) then you have something to hold them to."

So, basically, you choose to power over Amazon based upon a lack of response. Or, in your words, ignorance in response. Amazon should always "know" when folks try to engage them in contract.
I detected no question here but will respond anyway. You need to give due process as much as you expect to receive it. Due process has evolved into two elements. One element is NOTICE. The other element is OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. You give Amazon a NOTICE by sending them your paper. The OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD is a grace period before you say to yourself 'they haven't responded so must agree with me'. The next level is ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE. You send another notice, this time called FAULT referencing the first notice and asking whether they made a mistake and give them another OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD in order to correct their error. When and if they turn down this element then you send them a third NOTICE called DEFAULT. They get no OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD with this notice because they have agreed with everything you stated in the 1st notice and the default. Now you are free to send a bill, contact an attorney, start court proceedings altho some would choose to repeat the procedure from scratch but this time involving a notary public.


This is the very root of evil in our system. Take liens. Banks are seizing homes from folks who have liens on them, because they auction off those liens. The homeowner, some guy just living his life and doesn't know there's a lien, loses everything.
If he owns the house how is it that he doesn't know there is a lien? In Iowa I can go to the sec of state web site and do a lien search by name and shows me any outstanding lien.


So, in your world, I need to expend all my energy protecting myself from predators who seek upon the ignorant.

That is bullshit, and unjust.

Expending all your energy? I suppose it takes a 1st class stamp and 10 minutes of time to sit down and answer a NOTICE letter as opposed to crumpling it up and tossing it in the round file. Surely you can muster up THIS much energy?

As for unjust? If you didn't receive due process then THAT is unjust. If you took NOTICE and discarded it because you said to yourself 'this is bullshit' then your action placed you in the situation you are complaining about. TAKE ALL NOTICE SERIOUSLY.

There is much more material on DUE PROCESS at Adask's web site. http://adask.wordpress.com/category/due-process/

gunDriller
1st October 2013, 07:02 AM
These threads all public notice to ALL members.

You ARE a member aren't you?

i appreciate your posts, but this part i couldn't agree with.

if there were a test for G-S.us, i couldn't pass it. the inter-member flaming threads i mostly ignore -
any morsels of wisdom embedded there i would not see.

also i have about 10 usernames on Ignore, some of them departed.


to say that any of us is responsible for knowing the material of all threads is silly.

palani
1st October 2013, 08:42 AM
to say that any of us is responsible for knowing the material of all threads is silly.

Several times I have posted on a topic already previously posted and I usually get informed of that fact by others. I don't object to not having read or remembering those threads. I usually accept a rebuke silently and chalk it up to inattention.

If a thread is posted and the topic comes up later by any member who chose to not respond to the initial thread ... there is no time limit to responding .. they can always go back and make their responses to the initial thread (unless for one reason or another the thread has become closed). But to jump in completely off topic to take issue with something that is the sole topic of another thread is bad behavior. Extremely bad behavior is to act as if they had no duty to respond to that initial thread if they were going to take issue with some aspect of it.

If you are going to ignore someone then do so. Don't come back later and attack a thread you have on ignore because you chose ignorance as a proper path.

mamboni
1st October 2013, 09:04 AM
Several times I have posted on a topic already previously posted and I usually get informed of that fact by others. I don't object to not having read or remembering those threads. I usually accept a rebuke silently and chalk it up to inattention.

If a thread is posted and the topic comes up later by any member who chose to not respond to the initial thread ... there is no time limit to responding .. they can always go back and make their responses to the initial thread (unless for one reason or another the thread has become closed). But to jump in completely off topic to take issue with something that is the sole topic of another thread is bad behavior. Extremely bad behavior is to act as if they had no duty to respond to that initial thread if they were going to take issue with some aspect of it.

If you are going to ignore someone then do so. Don't come back later and attack a thread you have on ignore because you chose ignorance as a proper path.

This thread could have evolved into a useful discussion on how to survive and navigate around Obamacare. But instead, you've turned it into one long unproductive pissing match. Jeez, I'm so tired of this crap.

midnight rambler
1st October 2013, 09:39 AM
This thread could have evolved into a useful discussion on how to survive and navigate around Obamacare. But instead, you've turned it into one long unproductive pissing match. Jeez, I'm so tired of this crap.

It takes two to tango - who's the antagonist? I'm thinking that one party* needs to add the nutty noisy cricket who posts inane posts to their ignore list. I do, works for me.

*apparently one party somehow enjoys engaging the nutty noisy cricket which posts inane posts

Horn
1st October 2013, 10:03 AM
The only eventual circumnavigation of an insurance mandate will be paying the fine.

A fine which in the future will also likely evolve to include a loss of what are claimed to be certain "inalienable rights" of freedom and prosperity.

As chad stated earlier, learn the Spanish "No es mi culpa, soy refugiado político" and you will be set free.

Libertytree
1st October 2013, 10:35 AM
If you don't pay the fine because there's no interaction with the IRS I have to wonder how they'll get what they think is due if they ever catch up with ya. There ain't much left except for your freedoms.

Horn
1st October 2013, 10:42 AM
They'll probably stack up the years you remained unregistered anywhere,

and hand a compounding fine with fees to your next of kin along with an urn.

palani
1st October 2013, 11:38 AM
This thread could have evolved into a useful discussion on how to survive and navigate around Obamacare. But instead, you've turned it into one long unproductive pissing match. Jeez, I'm so tired of this crap.
You evidently have not evolved to the point where you can contribute anything useful? Instead you propose to divert the thread into another palani bashing session?

You got anything to say regarding the thread topic then SAY IT!!!! Stop trying to be a petite Napoleon.

7th trump
1st October 2013, 12:20 PM
They'll probably stack up the years you remained unregistered anywhere,

and hand a compounding fine with fees to your next of kin along with an urn.

Theres only one way the government knows how much income you have earned to even tack on fees and fines .............."reporting"!
If you know what causes "reporting" half the battle is won (see all government offices are vacant thread started by palani).

If there is nothing reported on you the government cannot make anything up and just say you owe it.
However, if the government can prove you are participating in Social Security (origin of reporting) and not reporting your income then yes they can estimate what should have been reported for those back years and impose fines and fees on a compound basis.
If the government cannot prove you were participating in Social Security they have nothing which the IRS is rendered toothless.

chad
1st October 2013, 01:09 PM
thanks for this tip, i'l make sure to tell all of my clients not to send in a 1090 on me.

Horn
1st October 2013, 02:08 PM
thanks for this tip, i'l make sure to tell all of my clients not to send in a 1090 on me.

I haven't filed for seven years down here, just went for Residency Card and was required to contribute to their CSS they call it.

If Obamacare ends up anything like theirs, it is nothing more than huge divide in class separation. Some people here have appointments scheduled for 2 years away for procedures probably die in the meantime, but if you've got the dough your in like flynn.

Jewboo
1st October 2013, 03:22 PM
I haven't filed for seven years down here, just went for Residency Card and was required to contribute to their CSS they call it.




http://jewishwebindex.com/Costa_Rica%20-%20Jews.jpg

http://w1.chabad.org/media/images/569/zDEu5695134.jpg

:rolleyes: which one are you Horn?


The Jewish Community in Costa Rica (http://www.jcpa.org/dje/articles2/costarica.htm)


Costa Rica may well be Israel's best friend among the states of the world, unswerving in its friendship since 1948 and the only state to maintain its embassy in Jerusalem.

Horn
1st October 2013, 04:38 PM
Costa Rica may well be Israel's best friend among the states of the world, unswerving in its friendship since 1948 and the only state to maintain its embassy in Jerusalem.


A Tico will never refuse anyone with vast amounts of fiat dough, just don't expect much (if anything) in return for it.

Libertytree
1st October 2013, 04:43 PM
Boo's in a mood to stir and add absolutley nothing to any thread he participates in.

midnight rambler
1st October 2013, 04:45 PM
I doubt one would be able to participate in this 'health care' scheme if one is unwilling or unable to provide a Socialist inSecurity #.

Libertytree
1st October 2013, 04:51 PM
I doubt one would be able to participate in this 'health care' scheme if one is unwilling or unable to provide a Socialist inSecurity #.

I reckon we're fixin to find out. I'm wondering if this also includes dental work as well, I've heard two different versions.

Horn
1st October 2013, 04:54 PM
I doubt one would be able to participate in this 'health care' scheme if one is unwilling or unable to provide a Socialist inSecurity #.

How else you gonna get your hands on some PMs?

http://healthyfuturega.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/actuarial.jpg

http://healthyfuturega.org/issues/health-insurance-exchange