$25 fine for animal abuse, wtf?

[EE_]

Man Accused of Chaining His Dog to Tree for Four Years...Fined $25
by Jon David Kahn 3 Oct 2013, 7:55 AM PDT

MIDDLETOWN, Ohio - Police say a man was charged with animal cruelty after chaining his German shepherd to a tree for four years. According to authorities, the dog was starved, infected and physically abused.
The dog's owner, Jeremy Shane Temple, was fined $25.

Rescuers renamed the dog, Joseph, after the biblical character who was left for dead and became a ruler.

Meg Melampy, a volunteer at the Progressive Animal Welfare Society (PAWS), said fleas were eating Joseph alive and when she bathed him, "the blood just ran off of him," she said.

Officers said neighbors witnessed the alleged abuse, but thought the animal was sick. Ron Allman, one of the Temple's neighbors, said, "they told us that it was a disease that he had," he said.

After Temple was arrested, one of his family members allegedly asked Allman for a favor: "She wanted us to write a sort of note...that we never saw anyone mistreat the dog...so we did.”

The arresting officer asked Temple about the dog's condition. According to the police report, Temple told the officer that "the dog is not a human."

Temple is due in court on Oct. 14.

Joseph is expected to make a full recovery.

Video at link http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/10/03/Man-Accused-of-Chaining-His-Dog-to-Tree-for-Four-Years-Fined-25

[ximmy]

Jeremy Shane Temple has no money but Joel Tenenbaum has the potential to make the dough, so he is fined accordingly...

$675,000 for downloading 31 songs...

Joel Tenenbaum is out of options. A Massachusetts District Court judge ruled the $675,000 fine levied against him is indeed appropriate and refused calls for a new jury trial (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120823/16473120140/district-court-675000-non-commercially-sharing-30-songs-is-perfectly-reasonable.shtml), meaning the former Boston University graduate student will pay a staggering $21,774 for every song he shared over P2P networks.The case has made its way through the courts over the past five years, with a jury initially finding Tenenbaum guilty of copyright infringement and levying the fine. His lawyers argued the fines were excessive, and the Judge presiding over the case at the time agreed. She lowered the fines to $67,500, or $2,177 per song, which record industry lawyers balked at and appealed to higher courts.

http://www.extremetech.com/internet/134992-is-a-675000-fine-for-sharing-31-pirated-songs-too-much

[sirgonzo420]

I may catch shit for this (sorry rambler), but I don't see how it's anyone's business how anyone else treats their animals.

I don't have the authority to fine, or otherwise punish people who treat their animals less than ideally, so I cannot delegate that authority to government.

Animal rights can endanger the rights of man (by, of course, other men), and this cannot be condoned. The "poor animals" argument is a variation of the "what about the children" argument.

Some poor asshole treats his dog like shit, but industry standards for raising animals for slaughter aren't exactly the equivalent of a Hawaiian vacation for the animals being slaughtered. For good or ill, man is higher on the food chain than animals. He should not, of course, needlessly mistreat or abuse the animals of which he is a custodian, but that decision is his to make, and the karmic repercussions of his acts are his to bear, but having a government that is able to fine him, even $25, is not a good thing.

[BrewTech]

I may catch shit for this (sorry rambler), but I don't see how it's anyone's business how anyone else treats their animals.

I don't have the authority to fine, or otherwise punish people who treat their animals less than ideally, so I cannot delegate that authority to government.

Animal rights can endanger the rights of man (by, of course, other men), and this cannot be condoned. The "poor animals" argument is a variation of the "what about the children" argument.

Some poor asshole treats his dog like shit, but industry standards for raising animals for slaughter aren't exactly the equivalent of a Hawaiian vacation for the animals being slaughtered. For good or ill, man is higher on the food chain than animals. He should not, of course, needlessly mistreat or abuse the animals of which he is a custodian, but that decision is his to make, and the karmic repercussions of his acts are his to bear, but having a government that is able to fine him, even $25, is not a good thing.

The truth of your post pains me, but I can't deny the truth of it.

[sirgonzo420]

The truth of your post pains me, but I can't deny the truth of it.

I appreciate your candor.

Now, GSUS, don't go beating your pets just because nobody has or should have the authority to stop you.

It can be tricky - not to let emotion strangle liberty (if not internally, then to prevent it from happening in society at large).

[Jewboo]

Police say a man was charged with animal cruelty after chaining his German shepherd to a tree for four years. According to authorities, the dog was starved, infected and physically abused.





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Any normal boy or man would end this quickly.

[ShortJohnSilver]

It is wrong, however, animals are property. Thus the low fine.

[Serpo]

and and and the dog had ....................................fleas

[Serpo]

Jeremy Shane Temple has no money but Joel Tenenbaum has the potential to make the dough, so he is fined accordingly...

$675,000 for downloading 31 songs...

Joel Tenenbaum is out of options. A Massachusetts District Court judge ruled the $675,000 fine levied against him is indeed appropriate and refused calls for a new jury trial (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120823/16473120140/district-court-675000-non-commercially-sharing-30-songs-is-perfectly-reasonable.shtml), meaning the former Boston University graduate student will pay a staggering $21,774 for every song he shared over P2P networks.The case has made its way through the courts over the past five years, with a jury initially finding Tenenbaum guilty of copyright infringement and levying the fine. His lawyers argued the fines were excessive, and the Judge presiding over the case at the time agreed. She lowered the fines to $67,500, or $2,177 per song, which record industry lawyers balked at and appealed to higher courts.

http://www.extremetech.com/internet/134992-is-a-675000-fine-for-sharing-31-pirated-songs-too-much


just take the fine down too $ 6.75

[EE_]

I agree that animals are our property, however, if you take on the responsibility of owning a dog, you should be expected to take reasonable good care of it. Who should enforce it?

In an extreme cases of neglect and abuse, I think there needs to be someone you can call to help an animal in distress.
I guess my issue with dog abuse is because I place dogs at the top of the animal scale. I don't place dogs in the same group with cows and chickens, but you should be expected to treat them humanely too.

I believe dogs are capable of love, affection. Unlike humans, they are the only creature that loves unconditionally.
They are friends and companions and many will work tirelessly to please their owners, expecting nothing in return.

It all comes down to what you value in this world and I place a high value on innocence.
To me, my dogs have a higher value then most humans.
Family, friends, children/innocence...the list drops off rather quickly from there.

Question; If you are in public place and see one man beating the shit out of another man, physically harming him (not knowing why) what will you do...is it any of your business?

Same question; man beating his dog to the point of physically harming it...is it your business?

Lots of variables here, you have to sort them out for yourself.

[willie pete]

Same question; man beating his dog to the point of physically harming it...is it your business?



I'd say yes and the reason would be the dog is a creature that couldn't defend itself from abuse like that

[Son-of-Liberty]

I do agree with sirgonzo on this.

As for dogs deserving better care then other animals I don't think that holds true.

I raised a steer for meat like I do every year and even though he was 1100 lbs and could run me over he had the most innocent and beautiful eyes. I felt bad even killing him humanely and I am a hunter. All animals deserve our respect.