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Jewboo
12th October 2013, 04:32 PM
Food stamp debit cards not working in 17 states
People in 17 states found themselves unable to buy groceries with their food stamp debit-style cards Saturday after a routine check by vendor Xerox Corp. resulted in a system failure.

Xerox spokeswoman Karen Arena tells USA TODAY that some Electronic Benefits Transfer systems were experiencing connectivity issues after a routine test of a backup system at a location in the Midwest caused an outage at about 10 a.m. ET. The test was part of a regular maintenance schedule, Arena said.

Xerox started receiving calls soon afterward.

"I understand right now that the system is back up and running,'' Arena said early Saturday evening. "But some states may be experiencing connectivity" issues.

U.S. Department of Agriculture spokeswoman Courtney Rowe underscored that the outage is not related to the federal government shutdown. Xerox runs EBT card systems for 17 states. All were affected by the outage.

Ohio's cash and food assistance card payment systems went down at 11 a.m., said Benjamin Johnson, a spokesman for the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services. Ohio's cash system has been fixed, however he said that its electronic benefits transfer card system is still down.

Johnson said Xerox is notifying retailers to revert to the manual system, meaning SNAP customers can spend up to $50 until the system is back online. SNAP recipients should call the 800 number on the back of their card, and Xerox will guide them through the purchase process.

Shoppers left carts of groceries behind at a packed Market Basket grocery store in Biddeford, Maine, because they couldn't get their benefits, said fellow shopper Barbara Colman, of Saco, Maine. The manager put up a sign saying the EBT system was not in use. Colman, who receives the benefits, called an 800 telephone line for the program and it said the system was down due to maintenance, she said.

"That's a problem. There's a lot of families who are not going to be able to feed children because the system is being maintenanced," Colman said. "No one should put maintenance in during the daytime."

She planned to reach out to local officials.

"I'm trying to reach out to everybody because I'm not thinking of me an adult who can figure out things. I'm thinking of the simpler person in the world who is sitting there trying to just do basic shopping to feed their kids. You don't want children going hungry tonight because of stupidity," she said.

Colman said the store manager promised her that he would honor the day's store flyer discounts next week.

Illinois residents began reporting problems with their cards — known as LINK in that state — on Saturday morning, said Januari Smith, spokeswoman for the Illinois Department of Human Services.

Smith said that typically when the cards aren't working retailers can call a backup phone number to find out how much money a customer has available in their account. But that information also was unavailable because of the outage, so customers weren't able to use their cards.

"It really is a bad situation but they are working to get it fixed as soon as possible," Smith said. "We hope it will be back up later today."

In Clarksdale, Miss. — one of the poorest parts of one of the poorest states in the nation — cashier Eliza Shook said dozens of customers at Corner Grocery had to put back groceries when the cards failed Saturday because they couldn't afford to pay for the food. After several hours, she put a sign on the front door to tell people about the problem.

"It's been terrible," Shook said in a phone interview. "It's just been some angry folks. That's what a lot of folks depend on."

Mississippi Department of Human Services director Rickey Berry confirmed that Xerox, the state's EBT vendor, had computer problems. He said he had been told by midafternoon that the problems were being fixed.

"I know there are a lot of mad people," Berry said.

Sheree Powell, a spokeswoman for the Oklahoma Department of Human Services, started receiving calls around 11:30 a.m. about problems with the state's card systems. More than 600,000 Oklahomans receive SNAP benefits, and money is dispersed to the cards on the first, fifth and 10th days of every month, so the disruption came at what is typically a high-use time for the cards.

Oklahoma also runs a separate debit card system for other state benefits like unemployment payments. Those cards can be used at ATMs to withdraw cash. Powell said Xerox administers both the EBT and debit card systems, and they both were down initially.

Like Ohio's Johnson, Powell said that Oklahoma's cash debit card system has since been restored, but the EBT cards for the SNAP program were still down. Powell said Oklahoma's Xerox representative told them that the problems stemmed from a power failure at a data center, and power had been restored quickly.

"It just takes a while to reboot these systems," she said, adding that she did not know where the data center was located.

Powell said that some grocery store cashiers had been speculating that the federal government's shutdown caused the problem, but state officials have been assured that that is not the case.

"We are hopeful it will be up this afternoon but we were not given a specific time frame," she said.

David Akerly, a spokesman for Michigan's Department of Human Services, also confirmed that residents in his state have reported problems using their cards.

Linky (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2013/10/12/food-stamp-debit-cards/2972713/)

ImaCannin
12th October 2013, 05:56 PM
OPPSY!!!!! Is this the start of the fall? Or just a trial run to see how pissed all the welfare card owners are going to get?

I read elsewhere that all the EBT card carriers just left their carts in the store - full ...... They are so lazy and inconsiderate and have the ME - give me attitude.

Jewboo
12th October 2013, 06:10 PM
I read elsewhere that all the EBT card carriers just left their carts in the store - full ...... They are so lazy and inconsiderate and have the ME - give me attitude.



Yep. Gonna be interesting to see how they act when the "EBT system down" situation lasts a week.

Jewboo
12th October 2013, 08:40 PM
:rolleyes: bump

Cebu_4_2
12th October 2013, 09:22 PM
Worked here for my last 22¢

Silver Rocket Bitches!
12th October 2013, 09:27 PM
17 states is not a glitch. It's a trial run.

Jewboo
12th October 2013, 09:30 PM
17 states is not a glitch. It's a trial run.




http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/files/2011/11/Portland-riot-police.jpg
Homeland Security will be outside grocery stores if it went on for a week...lol.

Cebu_4_2
12th October 2013, 10:59 PM
Head shots only. Fucking retards.

Celtic Rogue
13th October 2013, 02:33 AM
Crotch shots would work too... even if they have some protection... the impact will render them useless for a time... long enough to regroup. The femoral artery if hit near the hip joint wont be able to have a tourniquet used and they would bleed out. 8-)

Shami-Amourae
13th October 2013, 03:23 AM
Muh chilluns!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW-0xJb_FM4


Crisis averted!
http://hostmypicture.com/images/kfcdrop.jpg

osoab
13th October 2013, 04:55 AM
I have seen two excuses for the outage. One is a power failure at a midwest data center and the other is a backup glitch.

BrewTech
13th October 2013, 07:55 AM
At least these people refuse to believe the glitch excuse, and instead think the government is doing it to them on purpose.

Well, they're somewhat right. I doubt their suspicions will bear fruit in terms of them waking up, but one can hope.

ImaCannin
13th October 2013, 08:39 AM
All of these videos where the food stamp recipient is interviewed... they all say their kids will starve. This is for a one day glitch. Are you telling me that they dont have enough food in their house to feed their kids for one day? Or is it because they can go to Food For Less and get a rotisserie chicken already cooked, so they can continue laying on their bubble butt eating bon bons screaming MO CHICKEN??

EE_
13th October 2013, 09:36 AM
Nigga say "What's go'in on wit America?"

I think the gov should end the food stamp program and open neighborhood soup kitchens instead.

Cebu_4_2
13th October 2013, 09:48 AM
Or is it because they can go to Food For Less and get a rotisserie chicken already cooked, so they can continue laying on their bubble butt eating bon bons screaming MO CHICKEN??

EBT will not purchase pre-cooked foods.

Jewboo
13th October 2013, 09:49 AM
I think the gov should end the food stamp program and open neighborhood soup kitchens instead.



http://scixchange.missouri.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/6a01156f72691f970c013487752717970c-800wi-435x265.jpg

:rolleyes: like in their homeland Africa

Son-of-Liberty
13th October 2013, 10:10 AM
If TS really HTF these people would go berserk in about 3 days probably.

I can't believe how entitled they are that they are upset that their free food gravy train is disrupted for a day.

Hatha Sunahara
13th October 2013, 10:11 AM
Nigga say "What's go'in on wit America?"

I think the gov should end the food stamp program and open neighborhood soup kitchens instead.

The government won't do anything that allows or encourages people to congregate in groups larger than 10 people. It might help, or allow them establish a sense of community. An 'atomized' population is a docile population. The modern equivalent of 'bread and circuses' is beer, fast food, and TV.


Hatha

ShortJohnSilver
13th October 2013, 10:16 AM
I would have liked it , if the news reporter followed the angry, well-dressed woman with 6 kids out to her car and showed what kind of vehicle it was? Woman plus 6 kids = 7 passenger vehicle required. Like, an Escalade, Tahoe or Suburban...

govcheetos
13th October 2013, 10:25 AM
If TS really HTF these people would go berserk in about 3 days probably.

I used to think 3 days. Maybe three days for the uninformed suburban white population. Thinking 1.5 to 2 days tops for the inner cities. Maybe less depending.

govcheetos
13th October 2013, 10:27 AM
Love it, "Wuts wrong wit America?"

Answer: You are lady!

midnight rambler
13th October 2013, 01:29 PM
If TS really HTF these people would go berserk in about 3 days probably.

I can't believe how entitled they are that they are upset that their free food gravy train is disrupted for a day.


I used to think 3 days. Maybe three days for the uninformed suburban white population. Thinking 1.5 to 2 days tops for the inner cities. Maybe less depending.

I'm thinking this is a beta test.

mick silver
13th October 2013, 02:25 PM
nothing to see here . it just a trial run when they no longer can give every thing away

gunDriller
13th October 2013, 03:52 PM
If TS really HTF these people would go berserk in about 3 days probably.

I can't believe how entitled they are that they are upset that their free food gravy train is disrupted for a day.


many other professions have a similar mentality, and consume much more resources - police, doctors, government workers, defense industry engineers.

it was always odd for me to see co-workers at a defense contractor deride socialism, and then work in a socialist organization, albeit with a military purpose. Heaven help the co-worker that pointed out this little detail.


and there's always the $1+ Trillion "lost" from the Pentagon, maybe more, as announced on September 10, 2001. to satisfy the entitlement mentality of the black ops community and Israel, though we don't know where the money went.

in the grand scheme of things, those EBT payments are miniscule.


these are difficult subjects to discuss in a mixed-race society. conventional American 'welfare' is set up in a way that encourages single mothers, often black, to have more children - not a myth, i have heard them talking about the details while riding on buses in San Francisco.

the Democrat vs. Republican political landscape almost guarantees no better solution.

Cebu_4_2
13th October 2013, 04:10 PM
and there's always the $1+ Trillion "lost" from the Pentagon, maybe more, as announced on September 10, 2001.


2.3 trillion was missing. That can be spread all across anything they want. Wars, rebels, governments, chemtrails, FF programs, propaganda etc.

osoab
13th October 2013, 04:19 PM
2.3 trillion was missing. That can be spread all across anything they want. Wars, rebels, governments, chemtrails, FF programs, propaganda etc.

land, houses, boats, hookers, blow...

BrewTech
13th October 2013, 07:36 PM
If TS really HTF these people would go berserk in about 3 days probably.

I can't believe how entitled they are that they are upset that their free food gravy train is disrupted for a day.

We all knew that was exactly what was going to happen. Please don't act surprised.

Hitch
13th October 2013, 07:56 PM
17 states is not a glitch. It's a trial run.

Bingo. Get the masses dependent on entitlements, then 'test' their reaction when it gets taken away, like some fucked up social experiment.

Amazingly clear as day, yet millions fall prey to it. Truly mind boggling.

ImaCannin
13th October 2013, 08:08 PM
MANSFIELD, LA (KSLA) (http://www.ksla.com/story/23679489/walmart-shelves-in-springhill-mansfield-cleared-in-ebt-glitch?clienttype=generic&mobilecgbypass&utm_content=buffer2fe51&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=Buffer) Video of the carts on this page....
Shelves in Walmart stores in Springhill and Mansfield, LA were reportedly cleared Saturday night, when the stores allowed purchases on EBT cards even though they were not showing limits.

The chaos that followed ultimately required intervention from local police, and left behind numerous carts filled to overflowing, apparently abandoned when the glitch-spurred shopping frenzy ended.

Springhill Police Chief Will Lynd confirms they were called in to help the employees at Walmart because there were so many people clearing off the shelves. He says Walmart was so packed, "It was worse than any black Friday" that he's ever seen.

Lynd explained the cards weren't showing limits and they called corporate Walmart, whose spokesman said to let the people use the cards anyway. From 7 to 9 p.m., people were loading up their carts, but when the cards began showing limits again around 9, one woman was detained because she rang up a bill of $700.00 and only had .49 on her card. She was held by police until corporate Walmart said they wouldn't press charges if she left the food.

Lynd says at 9 p.m., when the cards came back online and it was announced over the loud speaker, people just left their carts full of food in the aisles and left.

He says contrary to rumors, nobody was unruly or arrested and they were mainly there to help prevent shoplifting and theft.

A dispatcher for Mansfield police also confirms officers were called in for crowd control at the Mansfield Walmart. She said the shelves were cleared out, forcing Walmart to stop selling food at 9 p.m. There were no arrests.

There was, however, a huge mess left behind. Pictures and videos obtained by KSLA News 12 show aisles packed with shoppers emptying the shelves in Springhill. Another video shows what appear to be at least dozens of overflowing carts left abandoned in the aisles at the Mansfield store, against the backdrop of emptied shelves in the meat department.

Additional Links
Computer issue, not government shutdown, likely cause of EBT card failures
It all happened at the end of a day in which the EBT system went down in several states, including Louisiana. Xerox, a vendor for the EBT system, experienced a power outage while conducting a routine backup test in one of the company's locations. While the system was back up Saturday night, it appears that it was not functioning entirely properly in some areas.

Kayla Whaling, a spokesperson for Walmart, tells KSLA News 12 that the company was "fully engaged and monitoring the situation and transactions during the outage."

"We did make the decision to continue to accept EBT cards (and purchases on WIC and SNAP) during the outage so that they could get food for their families."

Asked whether Walmart would be taking the loss on any food purchased on the cards that did not show limits, or on the perishable food left behind in carts, Whaling would only say that "we monitored transactions during the outage."

A spokesperson for the Louisiana Department of Children and Family Services says they take all allegations of potential fraud seriously, they are aware of the reports and they will be investigating.

ShortJohnSilver
13th October 2013, 08:18 PM
On Zerohedge.com the acronym is FSA for the "Free Sh*t Army", the people that want stuff for free.

BrewTech
13th October 2013, 10:28 PM
Lynd explained the cards weren't showing limits and they called corporate Walmart, whose spokesman said to let the people use the cards anyway.

There ya go!

zap
13th October 2013, 10:34 PM
There ya go!

LOL and write it off on your returns!

Son-of-Liberty
13th October 2013, 11:25 PM
I thought the EBT cards were like debit cards. How could they use them if they were down? Or is it a different system?

Son-of-Liberty
13th October 2013, 11:27 PM
We all knew that was exactly what was going to happen. Please don't act surprised.

Well not so much surprised as mind boggled that they are that way. We have seen it before but it is still crazy how people can act that way. Not even thankful for the free handout they get 99% of the time.

Jewboo
14th October 2013, 08:14 AM
Springhill Police Chief Will Lynd confirms they were called in to help the employees at Walmart because there were so many people clearing off the shelves. He says Walmart was so packed, "It was worse than any black Friday" that he's ever seen.

Lynd explained the cards weren't showing limits and they called corporate Walmart, whose spokesman said to let the people use the cards anyway. From 7 to 9 p.m., people were loading up their carts, but when the cards began showing limits again around 9, one woman was detained because she rang up a bill of $700.00 and only had .49 on her card. She was held by police until corporate Walmart said they wouldn't press charges if she left the food.

:rolleyes: