YouTube video shows ugly side of police 'stop and frisk'

[Cebu_4_2]

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YouTube video shows ugly side of police 'stop and frisk' Published time: October 14, 2013 15:50
Edited time: October 14, 2013 16:55 Get short URL (http://rt.com/usa/video-shows-stop-frisk-181/)

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As debate over the merits of “stop and frisk” policing continues, a new YouTube video has added fuel to the fire by revealing the disturbing tactics of two Philadelphia officers.
Titled “Police unlawful harassment and racial profiling,” the video is dated Sept. 27 and shows two pedestrians being stopped by police officers after saying “hi” to a third, unseen individual on the street.
"You don't say 'Hi' to strangers,"one officer, identified as Philip Nace by the Philadelphia Daily News, said as he confronts the two pedestrians and pushes one against the car. The other individual is recording the scene on his smartphone as it unfolds.
After Nace tells the man to put his phone away because he’s “under investigation,” the phone is set down but continues to record.
“Investigation of what? I was walking,” the man said, to which the officer replies,“That’s not what I saw … if you keep running your mouth I’ll split your wig open.”
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The two go back and forth, with the man asking Nace why he’d been stopped, and Nace offering that he doesn’t know what information the police have on them.
“Are you accusing me of robbing somebody?” the pedestrian asks.

http://rt.com/files/news/20/c2/50/00/1-1.jpgScreenshot from YouTube video/Josh Moyo

“I didn’t accuse you of anything,” Nace said.“I said we could’ve got a call, that somebody wearing the clothes you’re wearing just robbed somebody. That’s why we stopped you. Is that wrong of us?”
When asked if he’s permitted to grab pedestrians in this manner, Nace replies,“I’ll grab you any way I got to… Why don’t you shut up? Everyone thinks they’re a [expletive] lawyer and they don’t know jack [expletive].”
At one point, the officers attempt to justify their actions by claiming the two pedestrians were jaywalking. Nace also accuses the two pedestrians of “weakening the country” by “freeloading.”

http://rt.com/files/news/20/c2/50/00/1-2.jpgScreenshot from YouTube video/Josh Moyo

The race of the two pedestrians is not clear in the video, but “stop and frisk” tactics are increasingly coming under fire as demeaning, and for unfairly targeting minorities without sufficient cause.
"This is exactly what the city of Philadelphia says its cops don't do," Mary Catherine Roper, senior staff attorney for the state chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, told the Daily News.“The only way we stop it from happening is if the police department acknowledges that it does happen and takes steps to root it out."
In August, a federal judge ruled New York City’s “stop and frisk” policy unconstitutional on the grounds that it is a form of racial profiling.
Meanwhile, a new study released in September revealed that “stop and frisk” tactics are causing a large proportion of the public to mistrust the police. The lack of faith can become so severe that even those who are victimized become reluctant to report crimes.

[old steel]

Hahahah just let them fucking try it ....

[Cebu_4_2]

Isn't something about this illegal?

Detroit police adopt ‘stop-and-frisk’

Published time: August 20, 2013 17:11 Get short URL (http://rt.com/usa/detroit-cops-stop-frisk-743/)

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The controversial “stop-and-frisk” tactic used by the New York Police Department could be coming to the Motor City: law enforcement agents in Detroit, Michigan plan to adopt a policing method from officers in the Big Apple.

The Detroit News reported on Monday that traffic cops in the once-booming Rust Belt city are currently being trained to learn their city’s version of what has become a hot topic of contention in New York.

According to some Detroit cops, officers in Motown have already been using practices similar to the stop-and-frisk tactics deployed in NYC for years. Now, however, Traffic Unit officers are being sent through aggressive training in hopes that new tactics will “prevent street crime through the use of traffic stops.”

The Detroit Police Department has signed a contract with consultants at the Manhattan Institute and Bratton Group, the paper reported, in order to develop a more stringent strategy for cutting down on criminal activity.

“The DPD Traffic Unit (will) evolve its mission from principally the issuance of tickets toward the prevention of crime,” the contract reads.
News of new tactics being used in Detroit comes days after a federal judge in New York said that the NYPD exhibited racial bias in conducting its stop-and-frisk pat-downs. US District Judge Shira Scheindlin said the policy unfairly targets minorities, and ordered for reform and an independent monitor to oversee the NYPD’s use of the tactic. City officials, including Mayor Michael Bloomberg, decried the decision and filed an appeal (http://rt.com/usa/nyc-stop-frisk-appeal-590/) on Friday.

Despite that ruling though, Manhattan Institute fellow Heather MacDonald told the Detroit News that she doesn’t think the DPD will suffer any setbacks.

“(Scheindlin) has embraced a flawed statistical model for determining when officers are racially profiling that uses a population benchmark rather than a crime benchmark that guarantees if officers are patrolling high-crime neighborhoods, which are primarily minority communities, they’re going to be vulnerable to racial profiling lawsuits,” she said.

“There’s no way a police department can avoid generating racially disproportionate arrests, because the crime patterns are what they are,” MacDonald added.

In a statement released this week from DPD Assistant Chief Erik Ewing, the officer said, “Detroit's population is mostly African American, so it stands to reason that a high number of African Americans will be stopped, based on reasonable suspicion. This is not racial profiling, just officers doing good constitutional police work."
On Monday this week, Mayor Bloomberg touted stop-and-frisk during a press conference in which he unveiled the largest illegal gun bust in the history of the city. According to city officials, a court-authorized wiretap placed on one of the 19 individuals indicted in the gun running scheme revealed that participants were concerned with walking the streets of New York with contraband given the city’s use of stop-and-frisk.

“I think generally it’s believed by law enforcement people that without this tactic, the bad guys would feel a lot more comfortable in carrying guns,” Bloomberg said (http://rt.com/usa/new-york-gun-seizure-678/). “They carried guns before. They aren’t carrying guns now,” he added, “Common sense says that if you run a risk of getting stopped, you’re going to pay more attention to what’s in your pocket.”

Once a vibrant industrial town, Detroit has since fallen victim to a surge in poverty, crime and economic issues. Forbes listed it as the most dangerous city in America in 2012, and last month the city filed for federal bankruptcy (http://rt.com/usa/detroit-us-biggest-bankruptcy-279/) protection.

The rate of violent crime per capita in Detroit for 2012 clocked in at more than five times the national average, Forbes reported.

[gunDriller]

Hahahah just let them fucking try it ....

mouse-trap in the pocket ?

bag labelled "Skunk Kush" - full of dried poison oak ?

[old steel]

mouse-trap in the pocket ?

bag labelled "Skunk Kush" - full of dried poison oak ?

Sue them, a few million for harassment.

[Cebu_4_2]

Sue them, a few million for harassment.

I like that thinking but frivolous case rejection comes to mind. You need to spend big money to make a big pay off.