Obama to House: Now Let's Negotiate Citizenship for Illegals

[Ares]

(CNSNews.com) - In a statement delivered from the White House this morning, President Barack Obama said that now that Congress has enacted a continuing resolution to fund the government--that includes funding to implement Obamacare--he would like to negotiate with the House with the aim of enacting the immigration bill passed by the Senate earlier this year.

The key provision in that Senate bill would allow illegal aliens currently in the United States to become legal residents here and get on a "path to citizenship."

Video: http://www.mrctv.org/videos/obama-we-should-finish-job-fixing-our-broken-immigration-system-0

Critics of the "path to citizenship" call it an "amnesty" because it lets foreign nationals breaking U.S. law--including U.S. immigration law--not only stay in the country but eventually become U.S. citizens.

On June 27, the Senate voted 68-32 to approve the 1,198-page-long immigration bill.

“We should finish the job of fixing our broken immigration system," Obama said.

"In fact," Obama said, "the Senate has already passed a bill with strong bipartisan support that would make the biggest commitment to border security in our history, would modernize our legal immigration system, make sure everyone plays by the same rules, make sure that folks who came here illegally have to pay a fine, pay back taxes, meet their responsibilities."

"That bill has already passed the Senate," said Obama. “It’s sitting there waiting for the House to pass it.

"Now, if the House has ideas on how to improve the Senate bill, let’s hear them," the president said. "Let’s start the negotiations. But let’s not leave this problem to keep festering for another year, or two years, or three years. This can and should get done by the end of this year.”

The bill that the Senate passed not only created a path to citizenship for illegal aliens, but included language specifically stipulating that illegal aliens could not be denied conversion to legal resident status and put on the citizenship path even if they had committed certain crimes on multiple occasions.

“An alien convicted of 3 or more offenses for driving under the influence or driving while intoxicated on separate dates is inadmissible,” says the Senate bill. This means that an alien who has been convicted of 2 DUIs is admissible. It also means an alien who gets 2 DUIs on one day--and then gets a third on another day--is still admissible because he did not get 3 or more DUIs “on separate dates.”

Language on page 777 of the bill appears—on its face—to legitimize counterfeiting and selling up to 2 U.S. passports. That language says:

“MULTIPLE PASSPORTS.—Subject to subsection (b), any person who, during any period of 3 years or less, knowingly—(1) and without lawful authority produces, issues, or transfers 3 or more passports; (2) forges, counterfeits, alters, or falsely makes 3 or more passports; (3) secures, possesses, uses, receives, buys, sells, or distributes 3 or more passports, knowing the passports to be forged, counterfeited, altered, falsely made, stolen, procured by fraud, or produced or issued without lawful authority; or (4) completes, mails, prepares, presents, signs, or submits 3 or more applications for a United States passport, knowing the applications to contain any materially false statement or representation, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-house-now-lets-negotiate-citizenship-illegals#sthash.Hfnbb5NL.dpuf

[midnight rambler]

Of course a whole new bevy of the entitlement crowd is a windfall for the Demoncraps.

Wetbacks poised to get aggressive, "aren't going to take it anymore" - http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2013/10/16/many-immigration-activists-switching-from-vigils-and-rallies-to-more-aggressive/

[ximmy]

Definitely seems there's a long term plan to create a 3rd world inside our borders, with TPTB gleaning monies off the labor of the American Encampment.

Heard the mass of people into cities by cutting off water, power, all services to rural areas. Make most non-city areas off limits Via agenda 21 terms.

cut off communications from city service worker folks and super low wage remaining rural/farm labor force.


In essence, the rights of the people to have private property must be eroded or stripped, making all ownership of any property a part of the “community”. Only then can the global Agenda 21 Sustainable Development take a root where once there was individual rights and property. And only by making private property into public (community) property, can the State and local governments justify the legal theft of that property in the name of the people.

The “Master Plan”, as stated above, is one of the most useful tools in this takeover and subversion of private property rights for individuals.
http://realitybloger.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/the-master-plan-agenda-21-in-action/

[palani]

Where did he learn to negotiate like that?


Korben Dallas: We need to find the leader, Mangalores won't fight without the leader.

Aknot: One more shot, and we start killing hostages!

Korben Dallas: That's the leader.

Aknot: Send someone to negotiate.

Fog: [as Dallas looks at him] Uh, I-I've never negotiated before.

Korben Dallas: Do you mind if I try?

Fog: No, sure, sure, sure.

[shouts]

Fog: We're sending somebody in to negotiate!

[Corben walks into the room and shoots Aknot between the eyes. As he falls, the other Mangalores drop their weapons and bow over him, keening]

Korben Dallas: Anybody else want to negotiate?

Fog: Wh-where did he learn to n-negotiate like that?

President Lindberg: [looking at General Munro] I wonder.

[Jewboo]

Wetbacks poised to get aggressive, "aren't going to take it anymore"




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:rolleyes: we need more Latino fruit pickers and hard-working kitchen help in the USA...they deserve a path to Citizenship.

[iOWNme]

Whats REALLY sad is that you guys think 'Politicans' have a Right to regulate the free travel of human beings.

What you are really saying is:

"The Politicans should be able to control who comes in my house" - YOU DONT OWN YOUR HOUSE.
"The Politicians should be able to control who rides in my car" - YOU DONT OWN YOUR CAR.

You can't have it both ways.

If a Politican can tell you who can go into your home YOU DONT OWN IT.
If a Poitican can tell you who can ride in your car YOU DONT OWN IT.

Can ANY of you tell me where 'Congress' got the Right to regulate who comes in my home, or who rides in my car?

I could go on for hours.....But STATISTS dont care about actual FREEDOM, they only care about using the hammer of 'Government' to control their neighbors and to force their will on others.


GACK.

[palani]

you guys think 'Politicans' have a Right to regulate the free travel of human beings.

Hue-Man is color of Man. Man was never intended to survive humanism. Now there is the spector of TRANS-humanism messing up the horizon. These TRANS-humanists seem to believe things like AVATARS (as in the movie) actually exist and they have a plan to live over 500 years by transporting their 'conscious' into a carrier. Goofy stuff like that.

You would do better staying away from humanism entirely. As I asked a minister of the cloth this last week 'show me where human is mentioned a single time in the bible'.

Aside from that
1) your car is owned by a trust set up by the state. You are not the owner.
2) you are incompetent to hold on to your own real estate so you let the state do it for you and you pay property tax for the services they provide in letting you live there.
3) if you are a human then you have NO right to travel anywhere. That right is reserved for Man.

But I second your sentiment. GACK!!!!

[iOWNme]

Hue-Man is color of Man. Man was never intended to survive humanism. Now there is the spector of TRANS-humanism messing up the horizon. These TRANS-humanists seem to believe things like AVATARS (as in the movie) actually exist and they have a plan to live over 500 years by transporting their 'conscious' into a carrier. Goofy stuff like that.

You would do better staying away from humanism entirely. As I asked a minister of the cloth this last week 'show me where human is mentioned a single time in the bible'.



When i say humans you know EXACTLY what i am talking about. But since you dont have the intellectual accumen, or the responsiblity of being a MAN, you cannot answer simple questions that will throw your entire belief system into the wind. Lets try this agin:

WHERE did 'Congress' get the Right to decide who can come in my home, and who can ride in my car?

I'll tell you where they got it: THEY FUCKING MADE IT UP.



Aside from that
1) your car is owned by a trust set up by the state. You are not the owner.
2) you are incompetent to hold on to your own real estate so you let the state do it for you and you pay property tax for the services they provide in letting you live there.
3) if you are a human then you have NO right to travel anywhere. That right is reserved for Man.

But I second your sentiment. GACK!!!!


Your 100% corect, IF YOU BELIEVE THE SCRIBBLES OF POLITICANS.

Do you want to know why i own my car? Because i worked for the money it took to buy it. Now, you can scramble through papers and documents to try and show me that some group of CRIMINALS SAYS I DONT, but i still do because i voluntarily traded peices of paper for it, and the guy voluntarily traded me a car in return. NO AMOUNT of Political rituals, no magic ink on parchment, or any other pseudo-religious ceremonies can change this fact.

Now, there may be a group of slaves in costumes that believe these CRIMINALS and may try to cage me or kill me. But NONE OF THAT changes the fact that i own the car. Only people like you who seek to LEGITIMIZE the scribbles of CRIMINALS would try and blame the VICTIM of the Tyrants for trying to live his life peacefully. Do you blame the rape victim for wearing a short skirt to? What is wrong with you?

You seem to spend an exorbinate amount of time studying the scribbles of PIRATES and CRIMINALS.

Tell me Palani, in all of your research and studying, have you ever found the Law, Statue, Policy, Ordinance or any other 'Legal' mumbo jumbo THAT TOLD YOU YOU WERE FREE?

[Ponce]

Obama would be the first one on line to apply for US paper work, he wanabe americano.

V

[palani]

Tell me Palani, in all of your research and studying, have you ever found the Law, Statue, Policy, Ordinance or any other 'Legal' mumbo jumbo THAT TOLD YOU YOU WERE FREE?





I might be cheap but I am certainly not FREE!!!!

[palani]

WHERE did 'Congress' get the Right to decide who can come in my home, and who can ride in my car?

I'll tell you where they got it: THEY FUCKING MADE IT UP.
You agreed (and your father and his father) many years ago by your assent to their actions. You might start by blaming your family for agreeing to pass their seed through the fires of Moloch.


Your 100% corect, IF YOU BELIEVE THE SCRIBBLES OF POLITICANS. I know not what scribbles you might be referring to. Could you direct me to a cite?


Do you want to know why i own my car? Because i worked for the money it took to buy it. Now, you can scramble through papers and documents to try and show me that some group of CRIMINALS SAYS I DONT, but i still do because i voluntarily traded peices of paper for it, and the guy voluntarily traded me a car in return. NO AMOUNT of Political rituals, no magic ink on parchment, or any other pseudo-religious ceremonies can change this fact. And if you park it wrong it will be towed. You have no SENSE as to what this means? Did the towing company STEAL your car when they towed it? Or did the car have license plates that identified it as STATE PROPERTY? Come on. You spot smoke on the horizon you figure there is flames underneath it or did the smoke just materialize on its own?


Now, there may be a group of slaves in costumes that believe these CRIMINALS and may try to cage me or kill me. But NONE OF THAT changes the fact that i own the car. Only people like you who seek to LEGITIMIZE the scribbles of CRIMINALS would try and blame the VICTIM of the Tyrants for trying to live his life peacefully. Do you blame the rape victim for wearing a short skirt to? I think you place too much value on your importance. Step out of line and you will be accorded DUE PROCESS and thrown in prison until you see the light.

What is wrong with you? Could you be more specific? Or would you like to hear of my sinuses?


You seem to spend an exorbinate amount of time studying the scribbles of PIRATES and CRIMINALS. What? I don't read your posts ALL the time.

[ShortJohnSilver]

Could it be that Ocare and Illegals are related? They need to bring in enough young ones, so they can put the yoke on them to pay for the older part of the population.

[7th trump]

When i say humans you know EXACTLY what i am talking about. But since you dont have the intellectual accumen, or the responsiblity of being a MAN, you cannot answer simple questions that will throw your entire belief system into the wind. Lets try this agin:

WHERE did 'Congress' get the Right to decide who can come in my home, and who can ride in my car?

I'll tell you where they got it: THEY FUCKING MADE IT UP.





Your 100% corect, IF YOU BELIEVE THE SCRIBBLES OF POLITICANS.

Do you want to know why i own my car? Because i worked for the money it took to buy it. Now, you can scramble through papers and documents to try and show me that some group of CRIMINALS SAYS I DONT, but i still do because i voluntarily traded peices of paper for it, and the guy voluntarily traded me a car in return. NO AMOUNT of Political rituals, no magic ink on parchment, or any other pseudo-religious ceremonies can change this fact.

Now, there may be a group of slaves in costumes that believe these CRIMINALS and may try to cage me or kill me. But NONE OF THAT changes the fact that i own the car. Only people like you who seek to LEGITIMIZE the scribbles of CRIMINALS would try and blame the VICTIM of the Tyrants for trying to live his life peacefully. Do you blame the rape victim for wearing a short skirt to? What is wrong with you?

You seem to spend an exorbinate amount of time studying the scribbles of PIRATES and CRIMINALS.

Tell me Palani, in all of your research and studying, have you ever found the Law, Statue, Policy, Ordinance or any other 'Legal' mumbo jumbo THAT TOLD YOU YOU WERE FREE?





You own your car and you own your house.....don't let a homeless old fart such as palani tell you any differently.
You never hear of any government big or small just tow your vehicle off your property for no reason.
They will get sued and lose in court....make no mistake if they did!
You have license plates on your vehicle because of what you are, not the vehicle, to the state....not because some idiot from Iowa believes the state owns it.
That belief is because palani doesn't properly understand any law he studies. Matter of fact he hardly reads any laws (just ask him).
Your house is subject to property taxes not because some old coot in Iowa who cant answer simple questions says the house is owned by the state........its because the property is listed in the county assessors registry.
Get the property off the registry and see if the county, city, ect bills you!
They wont and cant!
Land patents have no standing when the property is registered with the local assessors office.
If you fail to pay your assessed property tax then the assessor will file a claim or auction it off. those are the rules when the property is registered with the assessors office.
If palani says any different.......hes an idiot and should be treated as such!
Palani, should be taken as a court gesture that he is for injecting conspiracy where none exist.
Palani, like most wantabe arm chair lawyers wouldnt have inject conspiracy theories he reads from the internet in places where he lacks understanding of the law if he actually read the law.
You can easily see what laws palani doesn't understand by simple identifying the conspiracy theories he injects.

[palani]

You own your car and you own your house.....don't let a homeless old fart such as palani tell you any differently. You are engaged in a communist society and are so delusional that you actually believe you OWN something?

You never hear of any government big or small just tow your vehicle off your property for no reason. You know that log home in Maysville? Go ask the owner if vehicles on his property can be towed for no reason.

They will get sued and lose in court....make no mistake if they did! THEY run the courts. THEY don't lose.

You have license plates on your vehicle because of what you are, not the vehicle, to the state....not because some idiot from Iowa believes the state owns it. At last something I can agree with. YOU (to the state) are just another CORPORATION.

That belief is because palani doesn't properly understand any law he studies. Matter of fact he hardly reads any laws (just ask him). Why would I read someone elses Law? I understand MY law.

Your house is subject to property taxes not because some old coot in Iowa who cant answer simple questions says the house is owned by the state........its because the property is listed in the county assessors registry.
Get the property off the registry and see if the county, city, ect bills you!
They wont and cant! And you have documented proof of this? Although I do agree with you. Never register the property and you will never receive a tax bill.

Land patents have no standing when the property is registered with the local assessors office. Now you are comparing apples and oranges. In the plane of private property the land patent has some standing. In the plane of non-private property the land patent might be toilet paper.

If you fail to pay your assessed property tax then the assessor will file a claim or auction it off. those are the rules when the property is registered with the assessors office. The assessor doesn't file a claim. He puts the property on a list of delinquent taxes where it remains for a short period of time and then the TAX LIEN is auctioned off. You must be a mindless amoeba to believe that the property is what is auctioned off. READ THE SALE BILL. It says TAX LIEN SALE not SALE OF 7TH TRUMPS PROPERTY.

If palani says any different.......hes an idiot and should be treated as such! We have just dealt with this topic and you have been proven to be a LOSER.

Palani, should be taken as a court gesture that he is for injecting conspiracy where none exist. I am sure I have no idea what your meaning is here and I am fairly certain you don't either.

Palani, like most wantabe arm chair lawyers wouldnt have inject conspiracy theories he reads from the internet in places where he lacks understanding of the law if he actually read the law. LEX NON SCRIPTA buddy!!! There is no WRITTEN law.

You can easily see what laws palani doesn't understand by simple identifying the conspiracy theories he injects. YAWN!!! 7th trump imagines a good offense is merely to give offense. To which I must agree. He is OFFENSIVE.

[7th trump]

Wow typical bullshit from palani.
No palani you only believe in what you want to believe and interpret to call your law.
Your interpretation is just that.....hearsay at best.
So far you haven't proven anything you yap about....its unfounded in the law....so you're to be taken as the arm chair lawyer court gesture that you are.

Putting your home on the property assessors registry is not communism. Communism is a collective having no ownership where the government decides for you.
Here in America you can have your property on the assessors registry or not.
You can participate in Social Security and have taxes imposed or not participate and no taxes imposed.....its a choice to make. Unfortunately, you haven't figured a damn thing out. Doesn't surprise me at all........you've demonstrated many times you'd rather believe in conspiracies than the truth.
You don't find any truth in interpreting the law as you see fit.
Like I've said.....you're lost in the law and your want to believe in conspiracies has you blind.
Not even going to mention your laziness to research the law.

[palani]

Wow typical bullshit from palani. Wowtypical NON RESPONSE from 7th trump.

No palani you only believe in what you want to believe and interpret to call your law. What other law is there that I am not ignorant of?

Ignorance of law, consists in the want of knowledge of those laws which it is our duty to understand, and which every man is presumed to know.

Your interpretation is just that.....hearsay at best. Have I made a statement in the context of repeating what someone else SAID? More nonsense from you. I suppose you heard the expression somewhere and are willing to throw it out as a charge without even knowing what the expression means. Like a parrot?

So far you haven't proven anything you yap about....its unfounded in the law....so you're to be taken as the arm chair lawyer court gesture that you are. Do I have a duty to prove anything?

Putting your home on the property assessors registry is not communism. Communism is a collective having no ownership where the government decides for you.
There are 10 planks to the communist manifesto. No ownership is one of them. Care to guess how many others have been adapted by your society?

Here in America you can have your property on the assessors registry or not. Duh! It is YOU that is the communist not your property. When YOU register it then YOU are the communist. Do you think property cares one way or another?

You can participate in Social Security and have taxes imposed or not participate and no taxes imposed.....its a choice to make. Unfortunately, you haven't figured a damn thing out. Doesn't surprise me at all........you've demonstrated many times you'd rather believe in conspiracies than the truth. Would this be the TRUTH as determined by 7th trump the only man on the planet to figure anything out? Perhaps your problem, standing in the bottom of a deep well, is that you saw a ray of sunshine once at high noon and decided you would become the world expert on sunshine without ever having experienced a sunrise or sunset? Do you see a part of a picture and imagine you can fill in the blank areas as you like?

You don't find any truth in interpreting the law as you see fit.
I am ignorant of what you classify as law. Why would I attempt to interpret that which I am ignorant of?

Like I've said.....you're lost in the law and your want to believe in conspiracies has you blind. What conspiracy? You mention conspiracy but have I ever mentioned the word? If so point me to it.

Not even going to mention your laziness to research the law. Perhaps I am reticent to assume joinder with that which you have embraced to enthusiastically? Might I be permitted to state that I am NOT a communist while you (even without your connection to social security) ARE a communist?


“Before he dies, all his experiences in these long years gather themselves in his head to one point, a ques-tion he has not yet asked the doorkeeper. He waves him nearer, since he can no longer raise his stiffening body. The doorkeeper has to bend low towards him, for the difference in height between them has altered much to the man's disadvantage. "What do you want to know now?" asks the doorkeeper; "you are insati-able." "Everyone strives to reach the Law," says the man, "so how does it happen that for all these many years no one but myself has ever begged for admit-tance?" The doorkeeper recognizes that the man has reached his end, and to let his failing senses catch the words roars in his ear: "No one else could ever be admitted here, since this gate was made only for you. I am now going to shut it.”
― Franz Kafka, The Trial