Fat Chance: Fructose 2.0 presented by Dr. Robert Lustig - Sequel to "Sugar: The Bitte

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Important information on the effects of fructose.

Published yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFyF9px20Y

Please keep in mind this guy spends all his time researching medical stuff, not hanging out on the internet, so don't take any of his political comments too seriously.


The first video, from 2009:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

[Hatha Sunahara]

This new video is better than his first one. Makes an airtight legal case that sugar--particularly fructose is addictive and harmful to your health in the large quantities that are commonly consumed.

He also thinks that 'guns' are a public safety problem. If he studied the data on that issue, he would discover that guns are also a public safety solution. I'm sure he's smart enough to transfer the skepticism about conventional wisdom that he has developed about sugar to the issue of gun control.

Overall, the video is well done and holds your attention throughout its 1.5 hour duration. Well done Dr. Lustig. You deserve something better than a nobel prize.


Hatha

[Dogman]

The mouse on the left sorta resembles my X a few years after the divorce..

;D

She done got fat and ugly, (inside and out)

[mamboni]

Excellent video - I'm sending the link to some colleagues and the COO of the hospital who is a nurse and very smart and very much interested in health maintenance.

For the record, Adele Davis figured out the sugar angle many decades ago. She was a self-educated lay person who made many brilliant insights on nutrition. I remember reading her book Let's Get Well in the late 1970s towards the end of university and entering med school. Amongst her other recommendations that I followed, I completely eliminated sugar from my diet. She also pointed out the fat and cholesterol fallacies way back then, long before the eggs and cholesterol scares of the 1980s and beyond. Ironically, an egg is without question the single healthiest food stuff you can eat. In fat, it is the only truly complete food on the planet. Now the fructose problem and the sugar-fructose adulteration of our foods was not a problem back then, so Adele Davis could not identify this. But I am confident that if she were alive today that she would have very quickly and adroitly made the fructose/sugar-obesity connection. In any event, excellent analysis and conclusions from Dr. Lustig.

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For the record, Adele Davis figured out the sugar angle many decades ago. She was a self-educated lay person who made many brilliant insights on nutrition. I remember reading her book Let's Get Well in the late 1970s towards the end of university and entering med school. Amongst her other recommendations that I followed, I completely eliminated sugar from my diet. She also pointed out the fat and cholesterol fallacies way back then, long before the eggs and cholesterol scares of the 1980s and beyond. Ironically, an egg is without question the single healthiest food stuff you can eat. In fat, it is the only truly complete food on the planet. Now the fructose problem and the sugar-fructose adulteration of our foods was not a problem back then, so Adele Davis could not identify this. But I am confident that if she were alive today that she would have very quickly and adroitly made the fructose/sugar-obesity connection. In any event, excellent analysis and conclusions from Dr. Lustig.

In the first video from 2009, Dr. Lustig says that the original book that set him on this path was "Pure, White, and Deadly" by John Yudkin, which is from 1972. I don't remember when he actually read the book though. But he says it predicted a lot of the health crises we see today.

[JohnQPublic]

This video was better presented in some ways, but I cannot say it was better than the first one in content. I think (as he said at the beginning) the two are complimentary. Here is the link to the discussion from earlier this year:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?67895-Sugar-The-Bitter-Truth-(excellent)&highlight=sugar+bitter+truth

I have totally dropped refined and concentrated sugar, and have noticed some good results (about one pants size worth since February).

[gunDriller]

is the natural sugar in fruit more healthy than the HFCS ?

i would think, most of the time, it is ... unless it's GMO fruit ?

[JohnQPublic]

is the natural sugar in fruit more healthy than the HFCS ?

i would think, most of the time, it is ... unless it's GMO fruit ?

It is no healthier. But eating whole fruit in the normal way leads to a MUCH lower concentration of fructose hitting the liver all at once. This is the key. For very low concentrations of fructose, I believe the liver can convert some if it to glucose and create glycogen (good for you). It is the high concentrations that are the issue.

[FreeEnergy]

is the natural sugar in fruit more healthy than the HFCS ?

i would think, most of the time, it is ... unless it's GMO fruit ?

HFCS is a complete disaster , on many levels.

Examples:


Are you a sugar addict? Scientists say high fructose corn syrup is as addictive as cocaine - but you may not even know you're eating it

* A new study by Canadian researchers has found that high-fructose corn syrup can cause reactions similar to those to cocaine

Canadian researchers have found that high-fructose corn syrup can cause behavioral reactions in rats 'similar to those produced by drugs of abuse, such as cocaine'.

Professor Francesco Leri of the University of Guelph, who carried out the research, said it suggested there was an addictive quality to foods that contain high levels of high-fructose corn syrup which could explain, at least partly, the current global obesity epidemic.

During the experiment, rats were fed foods containing varying levels of high-fructose corn syrup. They were then given access to a lever which controlled how much syrup they received. The more concentrated the syrup, the harder the rats worked to obtain it.

'We have evidence in laboratory animals of a shared vulnerability to develop preferences for sweet foods and for cocaine,' said Professor Leri, an addiction expert.

'There is now convincing neurobiological and behavioural evidence indicating that addiction to food is possible.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337798/Are-sugar-addict-Scientists-say-high-fructose-corn-syrup-addictive-cocaine.html



Fruits , especially non GMO fruits if you can find some, along with vegetables, are probably the healthiest food you can find.

[JohnQPublic]

Sucrose is also addictive. A lot of these studies obfuscate the facts. There may be secondary issues with HFCS (barium loss, etc.), but from an high level perspective, HFCS = sucrose = ~1/2 glucose + ~1/2 fructose, and fructose is the bad actor. Some HFCS has more than 50% fructose- this is worse. Agave syrup is a scam, it is up to 70% fructose (thus it is very sweet and low GI, but will fry your liver).

[FreeEnergy]

JQP, I agree that sucrose is also addictive.

The problem with HFCS is not that it is equal to sucrose, it is that corn in US is all GMO.


And from what I am experiencing with my immediate family, and even myself, HFCS is way worse than sucrose.


I try my best to completely avoid products that contain HFCS. Some days it is really hard to do.