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Glass
26th October 2013, 06:51 PM
anyone heard of these guys? Until yesterday I had not.


The Independent Order of Odd Fellows (IOOF) is a global altruistic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruistic) and benevolent fraternal organization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_and_service_organizations) derived from the British Oddfellows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oddfellows) service organizations of the 17th century.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Order_of_Odd_Fellows#cite_note-aboutus-1) There are a number of explanations of the origin of the name – for example:
In 17th century England, it was odd to find people organized for the purpose of giving aid to those in need and of pursuing projects for the benefit of all mankind. Those who belonged to such an organization were called "Odd Fellows".[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Order_of_Odd_Fellows#cite_note-aboutus-1)

The Order is also known as "The Three Link Fraternity", referring to the Order's "Triple Links" logo - three links contain the letters F, L and T, (Friendship, Love and Truth).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Order_of_Odd_Fellows#cite_note-aboutus-1)
The word "Independent" in the organization's name was given by the English parent organization as part of the chartered title of the new North American chapter:
The Independent Order of Odd Fellows was founded on the North American Continent in Baltimore, Maryland, on April 26, 1819 when Thomas Wildey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Wildey) and four members of the Order from England instituted Washington Lodge No. 1. This lodge received its charter from Manchester Unity of Odd Fellows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Unity_of_Odd_Fellows) in England.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Order_of_Odd_Fellows#cite_note-aboutus-1)


Odd Fellowship became the first fraternity in the U.S. to include both men and women when it adopted the "Beautiful Rebekah Degree" on September 20, 1851. This degree is based on teachings found in the Holy Bible, and was written by the Honorable Schuyler Colfax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuyler_Colfax) who was Vice President of the United States during the period 1868-1873. Odd Fellows and Rebekahs were also the first U.S. fraternal organizations to establish homes for senior members and for orphaned children.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Order_of_Odd_Fellows#cite_note-aboutus-1)



In Australia it known by it's Manchester links from what I can tell. It's clear from the wiki that there are masonic themes in this organisation. It looks like a differently branded branch of the masons. While doing research on the family tree, we have been chasing down various branches of the family to pick their brains about our ancestory. It seems there has been maybe 4 different research efforts over the past 2 -3 decades by various branches.

Extensive work done by the branch I am in was passed around Australia for people to add to or correct. No one knows where that info is now but it represents about 4 years research and much travelling around the world to dig through church and county records going back centuries. I have been trying to push people to build on this work amd we are now trying to find who has all the research that was already done.

It is becoming possible that there has been a very long association with these certain groups in my family for centuries and I am getting the feeling possibly since the very begining.

I have tried to highlight important thing in the above quote. Can you see the point of that?

JohnQPublic
26th October 2013, 11:44 PM
Used to be popular in the US, especially in the 19th century. Another fraternal organization. I have some exonumia from them.

Norweger
27th October 2013, 06:09 AM
Well known in Norway. Have their own Old Folk homes everywhere.

Horn
27th October 2013, 10:30 AM
Can you see the point of that?


The Lord told Rebekah what would happen to her sons:

"Two nations are in your womb, and two peoples from within you will be separated; one people will be stronger than the other, and the older will serve the younger." (Genesis 25:24, NIV (http://christianity.about.com/od/faqhelpdesk/p/newinternationa.htm))



They named the twins Esau and Jacob (http://christianity.about.com/od/oldtestamentpeople/a/Jacob-In-The-Bible.htm). Esau was born first, but Jacob became Rebekah's favorite. When the boys grew up, Jacob tricked his older brother into selling his birthright for a bowl of stew. Later, as Isaac was dying and his eyesight had failed, Rebekah helped Jacob deceive Isaac into blessing him instead of Esau. She put goatskins on Jacob's hands and neck to imitate Esau's hairy skin. When Isaac touched it, he blessed Jacob, thinking it was really Esau.

Rebekah's deception caused strife between Esau and Jacob. Many years later, however, Esau forgave Jacob. When Rebekah died, she was buried in the family tomb, a cave near Mamre in Canaan, the resting place of Abraham and Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, and her daughter-in-law Leah

milehi
27th October 2013, 10:37 AM
Its quite common to see "IOOF" and the three chainlinks engraved on headstones in older graveyards.

Horn
27th October 2013, 01:19 PM
Its quite common to see "IOOF" and the three chainlinks engraved on headstones in older graveyards.

5563

http://www.okcemeteries.net/kay/pcioof/pcioof.htm

Horn
27th October 2013, 01:22 PM
Thinking Of Reactivating Myself In Odd Fellow
http://marcelgomessweden.wordpress.com/tag/ioof/

Norweger
27th October 2013, 01:30 PM
Something i just thought of.

In Norway non-state operated retirement homes are illegal yet these guys somehow circumvent the ban.

Horn
27th October 2013, 02:37 PM
Their ringmaker's blog seems to be going on strong...

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz9co2dgOh1qfrg5no1_500.jpg

http://blog.finelighttrading.com/

Glass
27th October 2013, 08:15 PM
The Lord told Rebekah what would happen to her sons:
"Two nations are in your womb, and two peoples from within you will be separated; one people will be stronger than the other, and the older will serve the younger." (Genesis 25:24, NIV (http://christianity.about.com/od/faqhelpdesk/p/newinternationa.htm))



They named the twins Esau and Jacob (http://christianity.about.com/od/oldtestamentpeople/a/Jacob-In-The-Bible.htm). Esau was born first, but Jacob became Rebekah's favorite. When the boys grew up, Jacob tricked his older brother into selling his birthright for a bowl of stew. Later, as Isaac was dying and his eyesight had failed, Rebekah helped Jacob deceive Isaac into blessing him instead of Esau. She put goatskins on Jacob's hands and neck to imitate Esau's hairy skin. When Isaac touched it, he blessed Jacob, thinking it was really Esau.

Rebekah's deception caused strife between Esau and Jacob. Many years later, however, Esau forgave Jacob. When Rebekah died, she was buried in the family tomb, a cave near Mamre in Canaan, the resting place of Abraham and Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, and her daughter-in-law Leah

yes this story. hmm. what is the moral of this story? Is it to be duplicitous? To have two faces? To love thy father and thy mother?

I like this forum because someone out there always has something real to contribute on these sorts of subjects where the info is vague to me. Meaning I've no personal/direct experience only indirect although a stong one in this case.

Norweger this organisation almost seems to be like the RSL we have here. Returned Sevice Mans League - Veterans. In terms of Old Folks homes we have huge communities of RSL and Freemason run retirement villages. They are really very large complexes. Anyway I am fairly confident this is just another "brand" of the same fraternity and as the person who told me about them said it was a group formed to accept the people who were not masons/trade/craft persons. It was for other professions. I think that on reflection it looks like a duck.

Horn, I notice in that image to do with the rings there is an eye, singular.

Then of course there's the image at that Reactivating link you posted up.
http://marcelgomessweden.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/fullshield.gif
So all the symbology is there. Skull and Bones. The eye, The Tree of something? Is it knowledge or is the tree between 2 worlds as per revelation 22.2 (?)

Horn
27th October 2013, 10:42 PM
yes this story. hmm. what is the moral of this story? Is it to be duplicitous? To have two faces? To love thy father and thy mother?


When prayed towards, I imagine it would benefit the actor in a certain worldly fashion.

Talk about safety in numbers...

What's interesting to me is the trine , friendship, love, and truth forming a chain. A chain doesn't seem like it should be associated there.

Or somehow they are being sacrificed to the duplicity? Love being made something less than and into friendship.

Truth is you can never really place a finger on Love.

Horn
27th October 2013, 11:10 PM
From the same "reactivation blog"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCu0d-SjrN0


FINALLY!!!
I have been trying to explain this for decades (me also being an initiate of several lodges and other initiatory bodies + having recieved the LDS endowment once upon a time).
The few liknesses between (especially) The Royal Arch and the Nauvoo Endowment (LDS Temple Ritual) are smaller than many think and the history where Masonry and Mormonism meets often obscured.
Ps: No obligations are broken in the video to Freemasonry or Endowment and it is not meant as proselytatization. Purely academic comparison).

http://marcelgomessweden.wordpress.com/category/occult/freemasonry/