survival biscuits

[Hitch]

I've been researching life raft supplies, and stumbled upon this product. Survival food rations, ie survival biscuits.

Thought this would be a great addition to a BOB, or just to have in case of an emergency. Gets good reviews. Don't know if they ship to the US though.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seven-Oceans-Emergency-Liferaft-Survival/dp/B0065K3I30

[Dogman]

Looked at the us amazon, no joy..thinking shipping would be a bitch..

The ideal is a good one, but I think there has to be a better way.

[Hitch]

Looked at the us amazon, no joy..thinking shipping would be a bitch..

The ideal in a good one, but I think there has to be a better way.

Probably, I'll keep researching for a better way. But it got me thinking though. In lifeboat training, they had a 'brick' of food. Didn't need to cook, just slice off a piece, and it was calories to keep you alive. (think being stuck in a lifeboat bouncing around in the ocean).

Now, for folks on this forum, that doesn't seem to apply. But maybe it does. In a bug out situation, ie, grab your pack and get out of dodge. You aren't going to be able to cook most likely, for several days. You'll be travelling hard, resting, and fires and cooking gear you'll need will take time and compromise safety.

Having a 'brick' of ready food to slice off of when you need...toss it in the bag, and keep moving. Just a thought.

[zap]

You could always do what the cowboys did, what did they carry in their saddlepacks, beef jerky and biscuits?

[Hitch]

I found this and had to share. On this link, there's an SOS survival food pack (for lifeboats). Each food pack contains 2400 calories. There is 40 food packs per case. Cost is $98 per case. So, according to this, you can buy 40 days worth of food for only $98.

This almost seems like a survivalist's wet dream, could that price be true?

http://aaaliferafts.com/sos_survival_emergency_food_bars_water_rations.htm l

[Dogman]

I found this and had to share. On this link, there's an SOS survival food pack (for lifeboats). Each food pack contains 2400 calories. There is 40 food packs per case. Cost is $98 per case. So, according to this, you can buy 40 days worth of food for only $98.

This almost seems like a survivalist's wet dream, could that price be true?

http://aaaliferafts.com/sos_survival_emergency_food_bars_water_rations.htm l

Looks good, but only as a very last choice and no other way.

[Hitch]

Looks good, but only as a very last choice and no other way.

The whole point in trying to survive is a last chance. This is why we prep. If you need to eat these things, you are not having a good day, but could save your life.

I think I'm going to take a chance and order this. These things are CG rated, so they will withstand the most severe weather conditions, sea state, etc. They are SOLAS approved, for life rafts.

[zap]

Hard cheese was often included in the rations given to cowboys by their employers. Dried until hard and dipped in paraffin wax, hard cheese could last for months without spoiling and was nutritionally valuable in its high fat and salt content. Although hard cheese was palatable, it was seldom eaten raw and was instead added to chili beans or cooked in biscuits using a Dutch oven.

Read more: http://www.ehow.com/list_6790173_cowboys-ate-west.html#ixzz2iyt7OT9f

[Dogman]

The whole point in trying to survive is a last chance. This is why we prep. If you need to eat these things, you are not having a good day, but could save your life.

I think I'm going to take a chance and order this. These things are CG rated, so they will withstand the most severe weather conditions, sea state, etc. They are SOLAS approved, for life rafts.

Yea I know..there is prepping and then there is last resort and when in a raft that is what would be called last resort..

I would use this product as a backup for my backup.

Its all good! Name of the game is to survive another day and forward..

[Glass]

Redmond Washington company that carries them
http://www.preparesmart.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=P&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=FW-5024

I see I can source these locally. In fact there is a store just a few kilometres from here that has them. I got to this place every couple months as it's surplus but I have not seen them there. Will have to check it out but could be the weekend before I get there.

[Hitch]

Redmond Washington company that carries them
http://www.preparesmart.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=P&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=FW-5024

I see I can source these locally. In fact there is a store just a few kilometres from here that has them. I got to this place every couple months as it's surplus but I have not seen them there. Will have to check it out but could be the weekend before I get there.

Please let us know what you find out. I just ordered a case of those SOS survival food packs. When I get them, I will try one out and provide a review. Not expecting much, but dang 2400 calories per pack, at that price. I'll throw some in my ditch bag, bob bag, RV, etc.

[milehi]

I just invented gravy that's activated by seawater.

[Hitch]

I just invented gravy that's activated by seawater.

Sounds like a good surf session.

[woodman]

Justt buy a few cases of Clif Bars.

[Hitch]

Justt buy a few cases of Clif Bars.

I do like Clif bar, but don't know how long they stay good for. Also, clif bars have only 230 calories per bar. These SOS rations have 2400 calories, plus they are packaged to last a long time in the harshest of environments.

I will compare them to clif bars when I get them. Do a taste test.

[NOOB]

those prices are half or less from everywhere else I checked. I wonder if they are old stock. Supposedly a 5 yr shelf life http://aaaliferafts.com/sos_survival...r_rations.html

[Dogman]

Did a tad of digging on the sos packs.

Was planning to bug in...For the house and my car emergency supply's these will be a great addition,

For a grin I ordered some of these because they offer 3600 calories per day and the price was good. Each pack is a 3 day or so they say.

Also the reviews are outstanding..

Only downside is the vacuum package is weak, so I plan to use my food saver to give a tad more protection.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005CL34XW/ref=ox_ya_os_product

A case of the ones that solid is thinking about weighs close to 44 pounds.

These are 1.6 pounds per pack.

For sure worth a try..

Edit: I also plan to make my own "hardtack" and pemmican (lots of ways to make it)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pemmican

[Hitch]

Also the reviews are outstanding..

Only downside is the vacuum package is weak, so I plan to use my food saver to give a tad more protection.

I did some digging on those packs also today, and that's a great idea about using the food saver to protect them more. The case I ordered, 44 lbs, that explains the high cost of shipping... :(

As I posted early, I'll open one packet up when I get them and post a review.

These things are really a last resort, but if you think about it, it takes food to go out and get food. If you are eating these rations, you need the calories so you can hunt, fish, forage, etc and get yourself a real meal.

[Dogman]

I did some digging on those packs also today, and that's a great idea about using the food saver to protect them more. The case I ordered, 44 lbs, that explains the high cost of shipping... :(

As I posted early, I'll open one packet up when I get them and post a review.

These things are really a last resort, but if you think about it, it takes food to go out and get food. If you are eating these rations, you need the calories so you can hunt, fish, forage, etc and get yourself a real meal.Yep, no calories = the body starts eating itself quickly, and sometimes we do not have any choices to be picky about what we eat to survive.

I made a statement earlier in this thread that I have rethought and see this is a good thing to do.

When it comes time I will consider my prime amazon status.. Free 2 day shipping.... ;D

It so far has been worth it for me to pay the membership thing, I order alot of stuff thru them.

[Hitch]

Has anyone ever tried Survival Tabs?

http://www.survivaltabs.com/

[Dogman]

Looks like something the jetsons would use, not enough to them to bother with in my book but others may like them at 12 tabs a day and 15 days per bottle. Would hate to have to rely on something like this. Abt $2-3 bucks per day less shipping and tax.

[osoab]

This thread needs this. ;D


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[Dogman]

This thread needs this. ;D


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h46Ogfdspek I like that bass!

[ximmy]

Justt buy a few cases of Clif Bars.

The good thing about cliff bars or similar bars over these "survival biscuits" is you use them weekly. So they stay relatively fresh, I've found them (that I've hidden) still edible after two years or more.

who wants to eat a "survival biscuit"

Use what you store, Store what you use.

[madfranks]

Has anyone ever tried Survival Tabs?

http://www.survivaltabs.com/

Did you see the ingredients? The first three:


NON-FAT DRY MILK SOLIDS, SUCROSE, VEGETABLE OILS

when you're starving for nutrition, I'm not sure this will do the trick... :|~

[madfranks]

those prices are half or less from everywhere else I checked. I wonder if they are old stock. Supposedly a 5 yr shelf life http://aaaliferafts.com/sos_survival...r_rations.html

I actually asked them how fresh they are, this was the reply:


Dear xxxxx:
Thanks for your inquiry.

We sell so many of these - The rations are always fresh and have a 5 year shelf life.

Best regards

[Dogman]

Did you see the ingredients? The first three:


when you're starving for nutrition, I'm not sure this will do the trick... :|~ For me the ability of these bars to be stored in a variable environment as in a car which in summer can get dam hot and the heat will not bother them is a plus. Also the small form factor is good for what they are for. Short time energy over a few days for me this is the way to go, plus maybe a pack or two of ramman noodles.

For long term use of course not, but for something that can be packed and pretty much forgotten about for 5 years or so...Perfect! Mre's would be the next choice but in a hot car their storage life can probably be counted in months instead of years. The name of the game is calories to fuel the body until other stuff to eat is available.

I personally do not care much what is in them at my age, seeing they would only be used in a crunch, getting the hell out or getting the hell back home. I plan to make hard tack, (have done in past) and also have made pemmican that will keep almost forever and can be made so many different ways for variety (sort of, meat or veg's) Rolling your own is fun and you know what is in them.

But for a few bux and no hassel on my side these ready made are good.

[Dogman]

Been thinking on this and seeing that I was looking at bugging in at first. But after considering options I have decided to add to my kit for the car and preps.

On top of these ration bars (ERbars) I am adding a few other items for sustainability.

Dry whole milk powder
Dry whole eggs powder
Hi-protein powder

All the dry bulk will be broken down into smaller double vacuum sealed packages an go with the emergency bars as kits.

The bars come in three day packages so I plan to make up packs of these added items into three day packs also then vacuum seal the kits into three day super kits.

Plus add items that can fill a belly to starve off hunger feelings (bulk)

Oatmeal when water can be heated, and a few other items that maybe canned but they
have a bunch of bang for the serving size.

Hell even ramen noodle packs removed from the packs that the noodles have been broken up
(to save space) and re bagged of several original packs one resealable bag.

Dried whole eggs can be good when there is a chance to cook um scrambled or added dry to the
drinkable mixes as is.

The emergency bars (carbs) could be mixed with the eggs protein, protein powder and milk for a more rounded mix of carbs/protein

Carb's are good for energy short time but there is also a need for protein and such for sustainability.

Over all my thinking is carbohydrate's are good for energy and go but only short times. With this mix
it would help over the long haul.

Where real normal food is unavailable and or has run out, too bulky or heavy.

And in the dry form is less weight and easer to carry or pack.

The topic of the op is a good one and thanks for it. But this topic got me thinking of beyond three days into whateverinthehellnumberofdays surviving. ;D And keeping the body healthy.

Just add water!

[Hitch]

The emergency bars (carbs) could be mixed with the protein and milk for a more rounded mix of carbs/protein

This is a great idea. I wonder how these bars would taste if we simply sprinkled high protein powder right on them. I'll have to try that, when I do my taste test.

[Dogman]

This is a great idea. I wonder how these bars would taste if we simply sprinkled high protein powder right on them. I'll have to try that, when I do my taste test.

Not sure I think I got the different bar than you did. But I am sure the bars will mix well with milk, seeing the reviews compare them to cookies and what does not go well with milk? Add protein and maybe egg powder and shazzzam!

These are the links of the dry stuff I have bought, and adding to my kit.

Hi-protein soy powder (has highest protein % I could find)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013OQG64/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The whole milk powder, went by the reviews and price.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004K0862K/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The whole egg powder, went by reviews, size of package and price.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008T9SHRW/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These three are something sorta rare at the stores here anything else can be found at my supermarket.

[sugar plum]

Pemmican is an excellent survival food. It is extremely calorie dense at around 3000 kcal per pound. And they are good calories, mostly fat and protein.

Soldier fuel bars are probably the best candy/energy bar. They have a lot of sugar, but they have more fat and protein than most candy bars.

[Dogman]

Pemmican is an excellent survival food. It is extremely calorie dense at around 3000 kcal per pound. And they are good calories, mostly fat and protein.

Soldier fuel bars are probably the best candy/energy bar. They have a lot of sugar, but they have more fat and protein than most candy bars.

Have made pemmican in the past and agree with you.

Also it will keep dam near forever if made and stored right. I am getting the makings together to make up a veg and meat batch, going to get a bunch of tallow this week its sorta blast from the past for me, last time I made it was over 20 years ago.

It is good stuff and can be made out of dam near anything,

[Katmandu]

I have tried these SOS type bars. They taste somewhat like a very dense shortbread cookie. I liked the taste and texture; a friend of mine didn't care too much for the taste.

Back when I purchased them, there were two major vendors: the SOS brand that came in a white foil pack and another brand that came in a silver foil pack; I don't remember the name of the silver one, but can check later. Based on the taste, cost, packaging, and density of calories, I think they are a great addition to a short-term (1-3 year) survival cache or BOB.

[Hitch]

I have tried these SOS type bars. They taste somewhat like a very dense shortbread cookie. I liked the taste and texture; a friend of mine didn't care too much for the taste.

Back when I purchased them, there were two major vendors: the SOS brand that came in a white foil pack and another brand that came in a silver foil pack; I don't remember the name of the silver one, but can check later. Based on the taste, cost, packaging, and density of calories, I think they are a great addition to a short-term (1-3 year) survival cache or BOB.

I've procrastinated and should post a review. I did receive my rather large order of SOS bars. Overall, I like the taste, and the packaging is excellent. I agree with the above review, they would make a nice addition to a BOB or survival cache.

I ordered too many, so I've been giving them away to family and friends to keep in their cars for emergencies, etc.

The only thing I'd add, is that I could not eat a whole bar. These things are loaded with sugar. They taste fine, quite good, but the most I could eat was half a bar before I felt like I was going to bounce off the walls from the sugar rush. I could see how that could be a good thing, in a survival situation, but just something to think about. My normal diet doesn't include much sugar.

[Glass]

I bought a box as well. About 1 month ago. I've been dragging my feet to try one. Didn't want to crack a pack and not eat any but also didnt want too much sugar on top of the normal diet. There are 9 layers of biscuits and 2 biscuits per layer. I think you are supposed to eat 2 biscuits at a serving.

[Dogman]

If you have access to a vacuum sealer, try or share one and reseal the package. The biscuits are very high in carbs for the energy. I tried one of mine and have to say not bad at all, kind of tasty. But I also have a monster sweet tooth, sure in the hell better than having nothing at all. Then I resealed the remainder.

[Hitch]

Didn't want to crack a pack and not eat any but also didnt want too much sugar on top of the normal diet.

I'd hold off on cracking a pack, imo. In an emergency, I'm sure I'd be glad to have these. To snack on, no, too much sugar. If you open a pack, you may only eat one bar and the rest could go to waste.

I should add, our little dog loved them. The one I opened up, we fed the rest to the dog and he couldn't get enough. That's a second use for these things, dog treats. Survival dog treats, who knew?

[Glass]

If you open a pack, you may only eat one bar and the rest could go to waste.

I should add, our little dog loved them. The one I opened up, we fed the rest to the dog and he couldn't get enough. That's a second use for these things, dog treats. Survival dog treats, who knew?

thats good to know. Make a friend or keep one in the apocalypse.

I think what I will do with the one pack I grabbed is maybe crack it open at the xmas family gathering and let everyone have a taste and maybe learn something they can file away. That would use most of a pack. Down here we have the Anzac Wafer (war biscuit)which is pretty much the Aussie version of the home made and war times recipe. There will be someone or two in the family who know about that so that could be a good conversation. Opportunity to share some stories and old knowledge perhaps.

I am going to do a product review. Size packaging, weight yada.

[Hitch]

I think what I will do with the one pack I grabbed is maybe crack it open at the xmas family gathering and let everyone have a taste and maybe learn something they can file away. That would use most of a pack.

Glass, if you do this, don't tell the family it's a survival good. Open a pack, cut it up nicely, maybe put it out on a nice plate as a Christmas snack and see what happens. I bet folks would eat it up. They are tasty.

After everyone eats it, then tell them it's a survival biscuit liferaft pack later.

Heck, I might do this as well. Just put out a plate of the SOS bars and see what happens at Christmas. We have a big dinner. Great idea!