Faber "gold has bottomed"

[Large Sarge]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-27/mark-faber-fears-stocks-could-be-dead-money-while-gold-has-bottomed

[mamboni]

Faber is always very vague in his prognostications. He is a long time gold bug.

[mick silver]

i traded all my gold and silver in for paper . i just wish when it was real cheap that i had brought 10 time more of gold an silver .

[mamboni]

i traded all my gold and silver in for paper . i just wish when it was real cheap that i had brought 10 time more of gold an silver .

Are you being serious?

[EE_]

i traded all my gold and silver in for paper . i just wish when it was real cheap that i had brought 10 time more of gold an silver .

Thanks for warning us Mick...no wonder the price of gold and silver dropped this bad.

[EE_]

Article on Sinclair's site today. I'm sure others wonder the same thing.

Jim,

I have worked in the gold and silver industry since 1983. I own a well-respected and successful precious metals firm. I am very well versed in most areas related to my industry. I have followed you for the last 11 years.

I have an important question I would like you to address. So far, I have never seen anyone discuss this topic. It will affect many of your readers.

Assuming a major devaluation of the US dollar and a massive rise in the price of gold and silver, what will happen to dollar-denominated debt, such as a home mortgage, denominated in dollars. Will we be able to pay off the mortgage with the gold profits? Assuming a million dollar mortgage, in today’s dollars, and the price of gold increases by 300%, will I be able to take those "profits" and pay up the mortgage? How will the banks survive if people pay off their mortgage debt with watered-down "Weimar Republic" dollars?

When I took out my mortgage in 2005, it took 2000 ounces of gold to pay it off. When your target of $3500 (minimum) is reached, I can pay it off with 300 ounces. The big loser will be the issuer of the mortgages. Since the holder of the mortgages are the big banks and they usually come out on top, and lobby for legislation that favors them over the public, what do you expect will happen?

You urge your readers to pay off all debt now, including mortgages. But why sell gold for $1350 now to pay off a mortgage when with a little patience, it could be paid up with gold at $3500 and require a liquidation of only one third of the ounces?

This is an important consideration. What is the downside of holding onto gold and silver and paying up the dollar denominated debt with an asset that you and I expect to increase dramatically, against a constant dollar amount? I own the gold and could easily sell enough to pay up the mortgage now.

So far, waiting has served me well and the big gains (in dollars, not percentage) lies ahead. Many of your readers are no doubt in the same position. What is the downside of continuing to wait for a much higher gold price so I can pay off the mortgage in watered down dollars?

Thank you for your consideration.

CIGA DMS

Dear DMS,

History indicates that loans will be reset to equal the depreciation in the dollar thereby leaving the debt at a similar value to what is was before the hyperinflation during the "Great Leveling," leading to the "Great Reset." The idea is that you will pay off your $50,000 mortgage with one maple leaf is historically fallacious.

This economic trick has the same chance of working as does your deposits of $250,000 in ten banks, and your expectation of being repaid by the FDIC $2,500,000 in a banking systemic failure. You will not be.

Respectfully,
Jim

[mamboni]

Is Sinclair asserting that if the dollar is devalued by 50% then one's mortgage principle nominal amount in dollars is doubled, say fro example from $100,000 to $200,000? This would just bury anyone with a mortgage into unpayable debt and precipitate massive forclosures. The whole point of a currency devalue is to reliquify the economy and get it moving, not hobble it with more debt.

[Hitch]

Is Sinclair asserting that if the dollar is devalued by 50% then one's mortgage principle nominal amount in dollars is doubled, say fro example from $100,000 to $200,000? This would just bury anyone with a mortgage into unpayable debt and precipitate massive forclosures. The whole point of a currency devalue is to reliquify the economy and get it moving, not hobble it with more debt.

Also, it would destroy the currency completely, as all faith would be lost in the dollar instantly. Imagine if every mortgage debt just doubled, that would hit 'home' so to speak, and people would be storming the castle walls with their pitchforks...

Since very few people actually buy gold, I could see the price of gold being allowed to appreciate a lot higher with respect to debt just to keep the masses from panicking.

[singular_me]

Since physical reality is the ultimate illusion which is now in its final stage, The Subjectivity of Price comes into question... :)

[ShortJohnSilver]

During the Germany hyperinflation, there was a window where people were repaying their debts with hugely-deflated currency. However this was a short window of time, I think.

[mick silver]

mamboni , my life an my family life may need what i buried in the ground some day . at this point in life i dont need to sale anything , i am still a buyer till i no longer can buy