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old steel
29th October 2013, 07:54 PM
I was watching some people today in a lobby sitting around in various places all texting not talking to each other even though they could.

Seen it before, our society is changing in very weird ways.

Look at us here most of us haven't met each other here i'm guessing but we come here everyday to share ideas and thoughts.

Even when i go to the gym with my son all i do is visit with him, couldn't be bothered with the other people there even though i know plenty.

Then just now i turned on the new Art Bell show on Sirius radio channel 104 and he has on John McAFee and he is saying what i am seeing, how this technology is changing us all.

Are we all slowly being assimilated into what they have created for us, this new society we are willingly accepting?

Anybody have any thoughts on this subject matter?

Ares
29th October 2013, 08:05 PM
I was watching some people today in a lobby sitting around in various places all texting not talking to each other even though they could.

Seen it before, our society is changing in very weird ways.

Look at us here most of us haven't met each other here i'm guessing but we come here everyday to share ideas and thoughts.

Even when i go to the gym with my son all i do is visit with him, couldn't be bothered with the other people there even though i know plenty.

Then just now i turned on the new Art Bell show on Sirius radio channel 104 and he has on John McAFee and he is saying what i am seeing, how this technology is changing us all.

Are we all slowly being assimilated into what they have created for us, this new society we are willingly accepting?

Anybody have any thoughts on this subject matter?

I'll meet anyone here on the site. Except for Book, fuck that guy.

LOL j/k

old steel
29th October 2013, 08:06 PM
I'll meet anyone here on the site. Except for Book, fuck that guy.

LOL j/k

Hahahah that's some funny shit.

old steel
29th October 2013, 08:11 PM
The entire technology thing is the weirdest race I've ever seen, way stranger than the nuke and space races of the 50's and 60's.


Will computers and electronics enslave us or liberate us?

They seem to be doing both at the same time. Very very odd..the government is spying on us. The government is being blown apart in its lies, its old tricks aren't working anymore and the old men in suits are baffled and vexed with the very technology they've financed, created.

They can lie, they can threaten they can stage amazing events to shock and awe us. They are naked to our collective gaze and the truth of their crimes is shining through for all to see..

Katmandu
29th October 2013, 08:16 PM
I was watching some people today in a lobby sitting around in various places all texting not talking to each other even though they could.

Seen it before, our society is changing in very weird ways.

Look at us here most of us haven't met each other here i'm guessing but we come here everyday to share ideas and thoughts.

Even when i go to the gym with my son all i do is visit with him, couldn't be bothered with the other people there even though i know plenty.

Then just now i turned on the new Art Bell show on Sirius radio channel 104 and he has on John McAFee and he is saying what i am seeing, how this technology is changing us all.

Are we all slowly being assimilated into what they have created for us, this new society we are willingly accepting?

Anybody have any thoughts on this subject matter?

Yes I agree, people are gladly accepting and assimilating to the technologies that will ultimately enslave them. These technologies are always pitched for their
Convenience
Safety
Entertainment

And peer pressure and/or group think will absorb the rest.

Ares
29th October 2013, 08:19 PM
The entire technology thing is the weirdest race I've ever seen, way stranger than the nuke and space races of the 50's and 60's.


Will computers and electronics enslave us or liberate us?

They seem to be doing both at the same time. Very very odd..the government is spying on us. The government is being blown apart in its lies, its old tricks aren't working anymore and the old men in suits are baffled and vexed with the very technology they've financed, created.

They can lie, they can threaten they can stage amazing events to shock and awe us. They are naked to our collective gaze and the truth of their crimes is shining through for all to see..

As with anything man creates, it's always a double edge sword that cuts both ways. The government tries to use the technology to spy on anyone and everyone. People turn it around and create software that throws key words to be intercepted to throw the spy network off so that they can't discern what is valid data and what is just garbage.

I know probably within the next 10-15 years robotics will grow in leaps and bounds and human required work might be a thing of the past. Then what? Do we purchase a robot and send it to work on our behalf? Technological advancements in this stage of the game leave a lot of open ended what if questions. Because we don't know. We've never had this kind of progress this fast before.

At current rates, human knowledge is doubling every 12 months. Meaning humans as a whole know twice as much as they did previously and it compounds exponentially.

http://www.industrytap.com/knowledge-doubling-every-12-months-soon-to-be-every-12-hours/3950

With that type of knowledge it won't be long before mankind reaches the singularity. Artificial Intelligence, space traveling ships that are warp capable all becomes possible.

But the question still remains, will the future advancements be used for enslavement, or enrichment?

mamboni
29th October 2013, 08:20 PM
I'll meet anyone here on the site. Except for Book, fuck that guy.

LOL j/k

http://picture-lol.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/3050764154_Lol_94249156205_answer_1_xlarge.jpeg

Cebu_4_2
29th October 2013, 08:22 PM
I don't enslave anyones ideas but Hyperkitty pretty much nailed it today.

Meet anyone, eastern USi

Katmandu
29th October 2013, 08:39 PM
As with anything man creates, it's always a double edge sword that cuts both ways. The government tries to use the technology to spy on anyone and everyone. People turn it around and create software that throws key words to be intercepted to throw the spy network off so that they can't discern what is valid data and what is just garbage.

I know probably within the next 10-15 years robotics will grow in leaps and bounds and human required work might be a thing of the past. Then what? Do we purchase a robot and send it to work on our behalf? Technological advancements in this stage of the game leave a lot of open ended what if questions. Because we don't know. We've never had this kind of progress this fast before.

At current rates, human knowledge is doubling every 12 months. Meaning humans as a whole know twice as much as they did previously and it compounds exponentially.

http://www.industrytap.com/knowledge-doubling-every-12-months-soon-to-be-every-12-hours/3950

With that type of knowledge it won't be long before mankind reaches the singularity. Artificial Intelligence, space traveling ships that are warp capable all becomes possible.

But the question still remains, will the future advancements be used for enslavement, or enrichment?

In the hands of evil powers that be, as we have now, it will enslave. People must say no en masse; this is the real question, will they? The machine can exist only as long as it is fed.

Ponce
29th October 2013, 08:39 PM
Like I posted about two years ago......the future will be where you will live In a room where all the walls will be like a big screen where you can be in any part of the world that you want to be. No need for you to ever leave the room, with food delivered to you on time, machines will be doing all the work and even reproduction will be auto and with no need to meet each other in person.......... have a happy future. From a book that I read about forty or fifty years ago and getting closer to be.

V

Ares
29th October 2013, 08:49 PM
In the hands of evil powers that be, as we have now, it will enslave. People must say no en masse; this is the real question, will they? The machine can exist only as long as it is fed.

But the same technology can be used to remove them from power. They are used to controlling the information, what goes out, what is approved, and what is censored.

It cuts both ways. They are aware of it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsSktzDlxbQ

Mr. ZioStooge himself has even said as such that they are having trouble pursuing their objectives due to a massive global political awakening.

That would not of happened 10-15 years ago. Our futures have not yet been written.

midnight rambler
29th October 2013, 09:56 PM
On related note a school principal somewhere in the states recently banned texting while kids were out at recess because he observed they were all glued to their phones texting and not interacting with their peers at all.

Neuro
30th October 2013, 03:25 AM
On related note a school principal somewhere in the states recently banned texting while kids were out at recess because he observed they were all glued to their phones texting and not interacting with their peers at all.
I can see the benefit for that in the children's psycho-social development, however it is an extreme infringement in their freedom of speech...

Katmandu
30th October 2013, 03:31 AM
But the same technology can be used to remove them from power. They are used to controlling the information, what goes out, what is approved, and what is censored.

It cuts both ways. They are aware of it.

Mr. ZioStooge himself has even said as such that they are having trouble pursuing their objectives due to a massive global political awakening.

That would not of happened 10-15 years ago. Our futures have not yet been written.

It is clear that the internet has been useful to awaken some people. The major media outlets would have to be hijacked to un-brainwash the masses. I am not sure how that happens, but I hope it does. The elite could be removed from power when their system implodes, and that happens when the masses wake up and quit feeding their system.

Personally I do believe that good wins in the end and that these arrogant rat b*st*rd elitists will reap upon themselves what they have sowed. Whether it comes via their own technology being used against them, or via the general masses waking up, or via the King of Kings on a White Horse, their fall from power is eventually certain.

brosil
30th October 2013, 05:20 AM
Our basic problem with any technology is that we ask " Can we do this?" We never ask "Is this a good idea?"

Horn
30th October 2013, 06:16 AM
I think my kid was able to type 50 words a minute by the time he was age 12.

The fad should wear off at some point,

Hitch
30th October 2013, 06:18 AM
I can see the benefit for that in the children's psycho-social development, however it is an extreme infringement in their freedom of speech...

It's no different than being on the clock at work and texting. Employer's don't want workers sitting around texting rather than working. With children in school, being a good student is their job. Their job is to learn and socially develop into being responsible adults. It's also no different than a parent telling their own children when and how they can use texting, etc, as well. I think that principal is doing a good thing. I'm sure it's not just his decision, but a collective decision along with the parents who are involved in the school as well.

VX1
30th October 2013, 07:08 AM
I recently had to go on a Carnival Cruise to appease the wife. I’ll save my diatribe of what a sheepish crock of shit cruises like that are for another time, but, one thing that struck me odd… as soon as the boat got back to port and someone realized they had a signal, nearly everyone stopped where they stood and became zombiefied tapping on their phones. As I’m walking down the corridor, stepping over and around people frozen in place, it was like a surreal scene from a movie where time stopped for everyone else but me.

Also surreal… seeing a crew of pleasant, healthy, and hard-working foreigners serving the every need of rude and MASSIVELY morbidly obese Americans… how long is that going to last? Not a minute past the PetroDollar.

Finally… $90 to park the car outside in the sun for 4.5 days…and they still have the nerve to ask for a donation to something or another.

5576

EE_
30th October 2013, 07:21 AM
I recently had to go on a Carnival Cruise to appease the wife. I’ll save my diatribe of what a sheepish crock of shit cruises like that are for another time, but, one thing that struck me odd… as soon as the boat got back to port and someone realized they had a signal, nearly everyone stopped where they stood and became zombiefied tapping on their phones. As I’m walking down the corridor, stepping over and around people frozen in place, it was like a surreal scene from a movie where time stopped for everyone else but me.

Also surreal… seeing a crew of pleasant, healthy, and hard-working foreigners serving the every need of rude and MASSIVELY morbidly obese Americans… how long is that going to last? Not a minute past the PetroDollar.

Finally… $90 to park the car outside in the sun for 4.5 days…and they still have the nerve to ask for a donation to something or another.

5576

Sorry you had to learn the hard way.
Cruises never appealed to me. I've spent most of my life on someone else's time schedule, and I'll be damnned if I take a vacation on someone else's time schedule too.
Feel free to tell what a sheepish crock of shit cruises like that are, whenever you're ready.

madfranks
30th October 2013, 08:24 AM
I recently had to go on a Carnival Cruise to appease the wife. I’ll save my diatribe of what a sheepish crock of shit cruises like that are for another time, but, one thing that struck me odd… as soon as the boat got back to port and someone realized they had a signal, nearly everyone stopped where they stood and became zombiefied tapping on their phones. As I’m walking down the corridor, stepping over and around people frozen in place, it was like a surreal scene from a movie where time stopped for everyone else but me.

Also surreal… seeing a crew of pleasant, healthy, and hard-working foreigners serving the every need of rude and MASSIVELY morbidly obese Americans… how long is that going to last? Not a minute past the PetroDollar.

Finally… $90 to park the car outside in the sun for 4.5 days…and they still have the nerve to ask for a donation to something or another.


I recently got back from a cruise and I too, was really blown away by the hard working, polite foreigners serving all the rich Americans. It hits hard how truly distorted the world economy is, and how much disproportionate wealth we have in America versus the rest of the world. There was a doorman at the mens bathroom, I tipped him $20 and he practically groveled thanks at me. It actually made me feel ashamed.

Ares
30th October 2013, 08:26 AM
I recently got back from a cruise and I too, was really blown away by the hard working, polite foreigners serving all the rich Americans. It hits hard how truly distorted the world economy is, and how much disproportionate wealth we have in America versus the rest of the world. There was a doorman at the mens bathroom, I tipped him $20 and he practically groveled thanks at me. It actually made me feel ashamed.

I'd say in 30-40 years American's will be the poor working "foreigners" as the petro dollar will be long gone and whatever perceptions of wealth we once had will of died with the dollar.

mamboni
30th October 2013, 08:29 AM
I'd say in 30-40 years American's will be the poor working "foreigners" as the petro dollar will be long gone and whatever perceptions of wealth we once had will of died with the dollar.

Yep. Americans will be the third worlders carrying bags for the rich Chinese tourists who will be shouting "chop chop you lazy American pig dog!"

Ares
30th October 2013, 08:32 AM
Yep. Americans will be the third worlders carrying bags for the rich Chinese tourists who will be shouting "chop chop you lazy American pig dog!"

Why I'm doing whatever I can to position myself and assets so that I don't end up being a poor 3rd world American.

Neuro
30th October 2013, 08:39 AM
It's no different than being on the clock at work and texting. Employer's don't want workers sitting around texting rather than working. With children in school, being a good student is their job. Their job is to learn and socially develop into being responsible adults. It's also no different than a parent telling their own children when and how they can use texting, etc, as well. I think that principal is doing a good thing. I'm sure it's not just his decision, but a collective decision along with the parents who are involved in the school as well.
Sure I agree. I was kind of playing a devils advocate with my post. It is interesting though that mobile phone operators have these special subscriptions directed to kids and youngsters, that typically doesn't cost very much, involves few minutes of talking but several thousands of SMS's. From a conspiratorial point of view I would say the purpose is to prevent learning real life social skills.

Neuro
30th October 2013, 08:42 AM
Why I'm doing whatever I can to position myself and assets so that I don't end up being a poor 3rd world American.
Leaning Chinese ah you?

midnight rambler
30th October 2013, 08:42 AM
I can see the benefit for that in the children's psycho-social development, however it is an extreme infringement in their freedom of speech...

Minors are property (of their parents, or at least should be, historically that's how it's always been before the Luciferians have gotten the upper hand) and therefore minors don't have 'freedom of speech'. Only the Death Cult promotes the notion that children have ALL the 'rights' of adults as that drives a wedge between parents and their offspring.

Ponce
30th October 2013, 08:55 AM
Leaning Chinese ah you?

Like I keep saying ........ "Learn Spanish and Chinese and buy water stocks".......yesterday I saw a drone in a V shape but with a prop........also have more planes than ever flying overhead........in the old days it just to be one or two a month but now it is five or six A DAY.

V

midnight rambler
30th October 2013, 08:59 AM
Like I keep saying ........ "Learn Spanish and Chinese and buy water stocks".......yesterday I saw a drone in a V shape but with a prop........also have more planes than ever flying overhead........in the old days it just to be one or two a month but now it is five or six A DAY.

V

They're scoping you out for your TP Ponce.

Bigjon
30th October 2013, 10:27 AM
I was watching some people today in a lobby sitting around in various places all texting not talking to each other even though they could.

Seen it before, our society is changing in very weird ways.

Look at us here most of us haven't met each other here i'm guessing but we come here everyday to share ideas and thoughts.

Even when i go to the gym with my son all i do is visit with him, couldn't be bothered with the other people there even though i know plenty.

Then just now i turned on the new Art Bell show on Sirius radio channel 104 and he has on John McAFee and he is saying what i am seeing, how this technology is changing us all.

Are we all slowly being assimilated into what they have created for us, this new society we are willingly accepting?

Anybody have any thoughts on this subject matter?

For my money, I think "they" are dumbing us down.

When I was a young field engineer you had to understand exactly how a computer and it's related peripherals worked. Today all that knowledge is buried inside a chip. It is encapsulated knowledge, that people don't have a clue about and they just take it for granted that they turn on the switch and it works.
Programmers back in the mainframe days had to know their machine, but today the compilers and languages have them writing code that is for a program layer that is 2 or 3 layers above the actual machine. Programmers today have no idea about the inner workings and they don't need to know... more encapsulated knowledge.

The guys who design the chips have to know, but that is like .001 percent of the people.

I've been spending some time studying this site, which talks about how we were never supposed to learn how to think in a critical fashion.
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/entry/2009-12-17T22_01_17-08_00

I've listened to the first 3 episodes and highly recommend them.
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/enclosure/2009-12-17T22_01_17-08_00.mp3
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/enclosure/2010-01-20T16_36_22-08_00.mp3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHOujO-Qnlw&list=PL0E538EF1638B57DF

Katmandu
30th October 2013, 11:55 AM
For my money, I think "they" are dumbing us down.

When I was a young field engineer you had to understand exactly how a computer and it's related peripherals worked. Today all that knowledge is buried inside a chip. It is encapsulated knowledge, that people don't have a clue about and they just take it for granted that they turn on the switch and it works.
Programmers back in the mainframe days had to know their machine, but today the compilers and languages have them writing code that is for a program layer that is 2 or 3 layers above the actual machine. Programmers today have no idea about the inner workings and they don't need to know... more encapsulated knowledge.

The guys who design the chips have to know, but that is like .001 percent of the people.

I've been spending some time studying this site, which talks about how we were never supposed to learn how to think in a critical fashion.
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/entry/2009-12-17T22_01_17-08_00

I've listened to the first 3 episodes and highly recommend them.
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/enclosure/2009-12-17T22_01_17-08_00.mp3
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/enclosure/2010-01-20T16_36_22-08_00.mp3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHOujO-Qnlw&list=PL0E538EF1638B57DF

Thanks BigJon, looks like some good material [EDIT: some excellent material] there in the 70 or so episodes.

JohnQPublic
30th October 2013, 12:31 PM
...
Programmers back in the mainframe days had to know their machine, but today the compilers and languages have them writing code that is for a program layer that is 2 or 3 layers above the actual machine. Programmers today have no idea about the inner workings and they don't need to know... more encapsulated knowledge.

The guys who design the chips have to know, but that is like .001 percent of the people.



I remember my first 2 programming courses. The first was FORTRAN on a system with a card reader. The seocond was a Z-80 course. I was thinking "PC" when I signed up, but it was more like assembly language. Basically you could load two numbers in two registers and operate on them (basically add, subtract, or some boolean operation), and this was the basis of writing programs! Since then I have not taken high level languages for granted.

VX1
30th October 2013, 12:41 PM
For my money, I think "they" are dumbing us down.

When I was a young field engineer you had to understand exactly how a computer and it's related peripherals worked. Today all that knowledge is buried inside a chip. It is encapsulated knowledge, that people don't have a clue about and they just take it for granted that they turn on the switch and it works.
Programmers back in the mainframe days had to know their machine, but today the compilers and languages have them writing code that is for a program layer that is 2 or 3 layers above the actual machine. Programmers today have no idea about the inner workings and they don't need to know... more encapsulated knowledge.


Yep... as advanced as people like to think they are, send the average American back in time 500 years, and they will have almost nothing to offer them, technology or knowledge wise, beyond fantastical science fiction stories.

As a young Assembly programmer, I resisted as long as I could, all the Windows-type and language abstractions from the machine. These days, programming in Java and Flash technologies, I don't think I could count all the levels of abstractions between me and the machine code. Seems like every year, there's a new framework layer added... all promising to make life easier... ha! Coding is/was a great career, but I'm getting real tired of the complexity of all these competing layers we have to work with... I'm beginning to look forward to leaving it behind.

Katmandu
30th October 2013, 01:45 PM
For my money, I think "they" are dumbing us down.

When I was a young field engineer you had to understand exactly how a computer and it's related peripherals worked. Today all that knowledge is buried inside a chip. It is encapsulated knowledge, that people don't have a clue about and they just take it for granted that they turn on the switch and it works.
Programmers back in the mainframe days had to know their machine, but today the compilers and languages have them writing code that is for a program layer that is 2 or 3 layers above the actual machine. Programmers today have no idea about the inner workings and they don't need to know... more encapsulated knowledge.

The guys who design the chips have to know, but that is like .001 percent of the people.

I've been spending some time studying this site, which talks about how we were never supposed to learn how to think in a critical fashion.
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/entry/2009-12-17T22_01_17-08_00

I've listened to the first 3 episodes and highly recommend them.
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/enclosure/2009-12-17T22_01_17-08_00.mp3
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/enclosure/2010-01-20T16_36_22-08_00.mp3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHOujO-Qnlw&list=PL0E538EF1638B57DF

Already has perked my interest:
Peace Revolution episode 007: How to defeat the New World Order / A Root-Cause Analysis Leading to Freedom
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/entry/2010-10-03T08_42_32-07_00

And the references within:
http://www.tragedyandhope.com/
http://www.triviumeducation.com/

EDIT: In some later episodes they are beginning to talk about gold, but it is yet unclear what their stance is on gold.

Ponce
30th October 2013, 03:59 PM
They're scoping you out for your TP Ponce.


Hummmmmmmmmm, better buy more ammo......."Give me my tp or give me death"

V

Bigjon
30th October 2013, 11:12 PM
Already has perked my interest:
Peace Revolution episode 007: How to defeat the New World Order / A Root-Cause Analysis Leading to Freedom
http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/entry/2010-10-03T08_42_32-07_00

And the references within:
http://www.tragedyandhope.com/
http://www.triviumeducation.com/

EDIT: In some later episodes they are beginning to talk about gold, but it is yet unclear what their stance is on gold.

Trivium is the driving instructions on the path to learn the truth. I love this site!