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old steel
13th November 2013, 12:32 PM
Police in Seattle, Washington have responded to a major public outcry by disabling a recently discovered law enforcement tool that critics said could be used to conduct sweeping surveillance across the city.

Last week, Seattle’s The Stranger published an in-depth look at a little known new initiative taking place within the city that involved the installation of dozens of devices that would create a digital mesh network for law enforcement officers. The devices — small white-boxes equipped with antennas and adorned on utility poles — would broadcast data wirelessly between nodes so police officers could have their own private network to more easily share large amounts of data. As The Stranger pointed out, however, those same contraptions were able to collect data on internet-ready devices of anyone within reach, essentially allowing the Seattle Police Department to see where cell phones, laptops and any other smart devices operating within reach were located.
The SPD said they had no bad intentions with installing the mesh network, but The Stranger article and the subsequent media coverage it spawned quickly caused the system to receive the type of attention that wasn’t very welcomed.

Now only days after citizens began calling for the dismantling of the mesh network, The Stranger has confirmed that the SPD are disabling the devices until a proper policy could be adopted by the city.
"The wireless mesh network will be deactivated until city council approves a draft policy and until there's an opportunity forvigorous public debate," Police Chief Jim Pugel told The Stranger for an article published late Tuesday.
"Our position is that the technology is the technology," Whitcomb said, "but we want to make sure that we have safeguards and policies in place so people with legitimate privacy concerns aren't worried about how it's being used."
The SPD told The Stranger previously that the system was not being used, but anyone with a smart phone who wandered through the jurisdiction covered by the digital nodes could still notice that their devices were being discovered by the internet-broadcasting boxes, just as a person’s iPhone or Android might attempt to connect to any network within reach. In theory, law enforcement could take the personal information transmitted as the two devices talk to each other and use that intelligence to triangulate the location of a person, even within inches.

When the SPD was approached about the system last week, they insisted that it wasn’t even in operation yet. David Ham of Seattle’s KIRO-7 News asked, however, how come “we could see these network names if it’s not being used?”
“Well, they couldn’t give us an explanation,” Ham said at the time.
“They now own a piece of equipment that has tracking capabilities so we think that they should be going to city council and presenting a protocol for the whole network that says they won’t be using it for surveillance purposes,” Jamela Debelak of the American Civil Liberties Union told the network.
Now just days later, the SPD has admitted to The Stranger that indeed the mesh network was turned on — it just wasn’t supposed to be.
“SPD maintains it has not been actively using the network — it was operational without being operated, having been turned on for DHS grant-mandated testing and then never turned off — so shutting it down won't hamper any current SPD activities,” The Stranger reporter.
According to The Stranger, the SPD will begin disabling the system immediately, although Whitcomb said it involves “more than just flipping a switch.”

http://rt.com/usa/seattle-mesh-network-disabled-676/

mick silver
13th November 2013, 12:41 PM
just more take over , theres coming a time were there will be no place a person can hide

Dogman
13th November 2013, 12:45 PM
That is the trouble with technology, if the capability exists it will be used for the good and the bad. For example, with Google earth with the latest photos they are getting better with much higher resolution that you can zoom in and see people and not just their shadows.

And the law and the tax man in many places are taking note of that fact, but not all of the sat photos are recent and still are lower resolution but give them time.

The law/gov will use and lie about the use of any technology they can get their hands on, to destroy our right of privacy.

Hatha Sunahara
13th November 2013, 03:29 PM
They will reactivate everything in a few weeks when everybody has forgotten about it. This is part of the art of boiling frogs. You take your time. If the frogs twitch a little, you hold of on raising the temperature until they get used to the level they're at.


Hatha

Glass
14th November 2013, 05:14 AM
this is why the devices should be set not to search for networks. Not to attempt to connect to open ones. Only connect to the ones you know. Free wifi across the city sounds like a good idea on the face of it but everything free has a cost. I know this is supposed to be an "operational network" and not free internet. It is still a honey pot. Of course if the cops didn't know of this capability they do now. My experience is most people leave their phones wide open so it would be easy to vacuum up the data. The other thing I have noticed is that people have their whole lives in them.

mick silver
14th November 2013, 05:34 AM
22lr would fix doe white boxes

Dogman
14th November 2013, 06:10 AM
You Are a Rogue Device

A New Apparatus Capable of Spying on You Has Been Installed Throughout Downtown Seattle. Very Few Citizens Know What It Is, and Officials Don’t Want to Talk About It.

http://www.thestranger.com/binary/cf85/feature_big.jpg

Photos by Malcolm Smith

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Malcolm Smith

A WIRELESS ACCESS POINT (AP) HIGH ON A POLE What are these things for? SPD “is not comfortable answering policy questions when we do not yet have a policy.”

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The Questions The Stranger Asked SPD That They Declined to Answer (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/the-questions-the-stranger-asked-spd-that-they-declined-to-answer/Content?oid=18148493)
by Matt Fikse-Verkerk and Brendan Kiley
Nov 6, 2013


If you're walking around downtown Seattle, look up: You'll see off-white boxes, each one about a foot tall with vertical antennae, attached to utility poles. If you're walking around downtown while looking at a smartphone, you will probably see at least one—and more likely two or three—Wi-Fi networks named after intersections: "4th&Seneca," "4th&Union," "4th&University," and so on. That is how you can see the Seattle Police Department's new wireless mesh network, bought from a California-based company called Aruba Networks, whose clients include the Department of Defense, school districts in Canada, oil-mining interests in China, and telecommunications companies in Saudi Arabia.

(snip)

More at the link. Gives a good breakdown on what is what and can do's of these systems.

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/you-are-a-rogue-device/Content?oid=18143845

mick silver
14th November 2013, 08:08 AM
we are heading to a big city today , i will look for them just to see if there ever were . we all need to do this . if they are in one city i would bet they have them all over this countryhttp://www.thestranger.com/binary/cf85/feature_big.jpg