Thorium-Fueled Automobile Engine Needs Refueling Once a Century

[Ares]

http://www.industrytap.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/eqWJs.jpg

There are now over one billion cars traveling roads around the world directly and indirectly costing trillions of dollars in material resources, time and noxious emissions. Imagine all these cars running cleanly for 100 years on just 8 grams of fuel each.

Laser Power Systems (LPS) from Connecticut, USA, is developing a new method of automotive propulsion with one of the most dense materials known in nature: thorium. Because thorium is so dense it has the potential to produce tremendous amounts of heat. The company has been experimenting with small bits of thorium, creating a laser that heats water, produces steam and powers a mini turbine.

http://www.industrytap.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/cadillac-world-thorium-fuel-concept-3.jpg

Current models of the engine weigh 500 pounds, easily fitting into the engine area of a conventionally-designed vehicle. According to CEO Charles Stevens, just one gram of the substance yields more energy than 7,396 gallons (28,000 L) of gasoline and 8 grams would power the typical car for a century.

The idea of using thorium is not new. In 2009, Loren Kulesus designed the Cadillac World Thorium Fuel Concept Car. LPS is developing the technology so it can be mass-produced.
Wider Implications of Thorium

According to Robert Hargraves, “low or non-CO2 emitting energy sources must be cheaper than coal or will ultimately fail to displace fossil fuels.” The United States uses 20% of the world’s energy today and, according to Hargraves, if it cut its CO2 emissions to zero, 80% produced by other countries would still be a problem. With CO2 emissions climbing seemingly beyond all bounds, pessimism is rampant and bold ideas are needed.

Thorium may also be the answer to the world’s nuclear energy conundrum and Wikipedia provides some of its advantages:

Weapons-grade fissionable material (233U) is harder to retrieve safely and clandestinely from a thorium reactor; this means, for example, Iran could be asked to develop only a thorium based reactor, virtually eliminating the issue of nuclear weapon development.
Thorium produces 10 to 10,000 times less long-lived radioactive waste;
Thorium mining produces a single pure isotope, whereas the mixture of natural uranium isotopes must be enriched to function in most common reactor designs. The same cycle could also use the fissionable U-238 component of the natural uranium, and also contained in the depleted reactor fuel;
Thorium cannot sustain a nuclear chain reaction without priming,[29] so fission stops by default in an accelerator driven reactor.

Hargraves sees factories and other industrial concerns using thorium as well. Stay tuned as we track this idea and its development.

http://www.industrytap.com/thorium-fueled-automobile-engine-needs-refueling-once-a-century/15649

[Norweger]

Norway is loaded with it. It will not be of any benefit to the population. They will find a way to slowly extract the maximum amount of money over time from the consumers. It wont be in a way that we get to do a one time small payment for a machine that runs for years without costs... no, that would be to liberating.

[midnight rambler]

Norway is loaded with it. It will not be of any benefit to the population. They will find a way to slowly extract the maximum amount of money over time from the consumers. It wont be in a way that we get to do a one time small payment for a machine that runs for years without costs... no, that would be to liberating.

J.P. Morgan regarding Tesla's plans for free energy for everyone worldwide: No one is going to milk that cow for free!

[Hypertiger]

The whole world is loaded with love...that can be used to power hate...Hate beyond your abilities to comprehend.

hate so hateful that your hate looks like love in comparison

[osoab]

The whole world is loaded with love...that can be used to power hate...Hate beyond your abilities to comprehend.

hate so hateful that your hate looks like love in comparison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vGBvzbpvug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vGBvzbpvug


edit, I couldn't find the actual clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1N5p8IXzNdc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1N5p8IXzNdc

[Ponce]

Are the inventors dead already? or are the power to be buying the invention for X billion dollars......another two hours for the printing presses.

V

[Hatha Sunahara]

Norway is loaded with it. It will not be of any benefit to the population. They will find a way to slowly extract the maximum amount of money over time from the consumers. It wont be in a way that we get to do a one time small payment for a machine that runs for years without costs... no, that would be to liberating.

Tesla pointed at an unlimited, infinite supply of energy in the ether. The people who control everything only allowed the technology Tesla developed that they could control to become available to the public. They squashed his wireless power transmission ideas. He supposedly fitted a 1931 Pierce Arrow with an AC electric motor and built a 'power receiver' where he pulled the electricity needed to propel the car from the ether with an antenna. I'm not familiar with any theories of the origin of this power, but I have my own theory.

If you think about our sun, you know how much power we get from the light it produces. It's about 1000 watts per square meter. This is just from the parts of the spectrum around the region we can see, and we know the sun puts out far more energy in the form of electromagnetic energy in other parts of the spectrum--at longer wave lengths. Now, if you think about the total amount of radiant energy the sun puts out, and the miniscule portion of it that hits earth, then you can imagine how much energy is just travelling through space--not hitting anything. So, then, it is reasonable to conclude that all stars put out huge amounts of energy that fills space with it, because there are billions, if not trillions or quadrillions of stars in the universe. So, it's not unreasonable to think that we might be able to 'catch' some of that energy if we had the proper receiving equipment. And this is what I think Tesla built to power his Pierce Arrow. Tesla even got a patent for a 'radiant energy receiver'.

I think this is the kind of technology that would be truly liberating. No one--no matter how rich or powerful can control this energy supply. If you could build a receiver in your garage, you would be free of the people who own everything. I think this is why Tesla is such an obscure figure. The people who own everything--the 'owners' don't want anybody digging too deep into his ideas.


Hatha

[JohnQPublic]

The atomic car was first talked about in the 1950s. Now it may be real.

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[Dogman]

Back when the two major mags popular mechanics and science had articles on nucular cars/rockets and planes.

[ShortJohnSilver]

Remember they want to tax electric cars by the mile with a GPS unit / blackbox that watches wherever you drive. So they would put one of these in and then charge you by the mile.

[Hypertiger]

http://www.instructables.com/id/Tesla-radiant-enrgy-upgraded/

[Hypertiger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK367T7h6ZY

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13692132

[Hypertiger]

The key problem is ignorance of how the credit system works.

Tesla discovered the principle of alternating current.

Up to then Direct current was all that was known.

of all the original DOW components General electric is the only one left.

General electric was created by Edison and JP Morgan.

No one knew how AC electricity was generated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Proteus_Steinmetz

Modern electrified World history...can be traced to the above...mutant.

He is the single most important person in history...It can all be traced to the above person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis

The difference between the direct current principle and the Alternating current principle.

Absolute capitalism or irresponsible or ignorant capitalism or Antisocialism....or the DC principle

Takes more power than it gives.

Its the same as chopping down trees faster than they regrow to supply power...To lets say...logs into a fire to produce light

Works great...until you run out of trees.

Then the battery reaches zero....and the fire or light goes out

Responsible capitalism or knowledgeable capitalism or Socialism....or the AC principle.

Shares power equally

Its the same as chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow to supply power...To lets say...logs into a fire to produce light.

This battery is eternal...It never runs out of power...and the light never goes out.

https://archive.org/details/theorycalculatio00steiiala

[Hypertiger]

DC...Is Absolute self indulgent reason.

Lies take more power than they give to sustain existence.

AC...Is Responsible altruistic logic.

Truth shares power as equally as possible.

GOD powers Truth...GOD shares power with all and everything perfectly.

People...your bodies are composed of what does not matter which does matter by taking more power than it gives to sustain existence.

as long as you can supply the demand of you body for power to sustain existence...It will matter.

fail...and your body will not matter any more and cease to exist.

So called atheists use the power of GOD to say that GOD does not exist.

Or construct lies they believe are Truth...or delusions...cherished delusions.

following the big bang or let there be light...Is the battle between matter and anti matter.

GOD powers Truth which is something that allows nothing or lies to exist.

Lies take more power than they give from Truth to sustain their existence as Truth.

Until lies demand infinite power from Truth to sustain their existence.

A lie demands Yes from Truth.

Truth supplies No

and the lie self-destructs.

leaving only Truth or what matters as the victor.

of course physicists do not know why matter wins and they claim this battle between good and evil was resolved billions of years ago and so lets fast forward to the future and talk about something else.

except this battle is continuously going on right now.

The Universe is not static...like a photograph.

The Universe is dynamic...like a motion picture

A Gigahertz...like in your computer right now...can perform 1 Billion operations a second.

or one billion big bangs or let there be lights a second.

the "refresh rate" of the Universe...happens so fast.

That it is impossible inside the Universe to measure this...because you all use lies believed to be Truth to measure lies you believe to be Truth to find a lie you believe to be Truth.

[mick silver]

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belief) in the existence of deities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deity).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-eb2011-atheism-1)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-encyc-philosophy-2) In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-RoweRoutledge-3)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-encyc-unbelief-def-issues-4)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-oxdicphil-5) Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-encyc-unbelief-def-issues-4)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-oxdicphil-5)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-religioustolerance-6)[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-7) Atheism is contrasted with theism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theism),[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-reldef-8)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-OED-theism-9) which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God).[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-OED-theism-9)[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-10)
The term atheism originated from the Greek ἄθεος (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%84%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%BF%CF%82) (atheos), meaning "without god(s)", used as a pejorative term applied to those thought to reject the gods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gods) worshipped by the larger society. With the spread of freethought (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought), skeptical inquiry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeptical_inquiry), and subsequent increase in criticism of religion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_religion), application of the term narrowed in scope. The first individuals to identify themselves using the word "atheist" lived in the 18th century.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-FOOTNOTEArmstrong1999-11)
Arguments for atheism range from the philosophical to social and historical approaches. Rationales for not believing in any supernatural (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural) deity include the lack of empirical evidence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God#Empirical_arguments),[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-logical-12)[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-13) the problem of evil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil), the argument from inconsistent revelations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_inconsistent_revelations), rejection of concepts which cannot be falsified (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability), and the argument from nonbelief (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_nonbelief).[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-logical-12)[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-Drange-1996-14) Although some atheists have adopted secular (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularism) philosophies,[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-honderich-15)[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-16) there is no one ideology or set of behaviors to which all atheists adhere.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-17) Many atheists hold that atheism is a more parsimonious (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsimonious) worldview than theism, and therefore the burden of proof (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof) lies not on the atheist to disprove the existence of God, but on the theist to provide a rationale for theism[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-18)
Atheism is accepted within some religious and spiritual belief systems, including Hinduism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism), Jainism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism), Buddhism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism), Raelism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raelism), Neopagan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism_%28contemporary_religions%29) movements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_religious_movement)[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-Neopaganism-19) such as Wicca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca),[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-Wicca-20) and nontheistic religions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontheistic_religions). Jainism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism) and some forms of Buddhism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Buddhism) do not advocate belief in gods,[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-21) whereas Hinduism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism) holds atheism to be valid, but some schools view the path of an atheist to be difficult to follow in matters of spirituality.[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-22)
Since conceptions of atheism vary, determining how many atheists exist in the world today is difficult.[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-Martin2007-23) According to one estimate, atheists make up about 2.3% of the world's population, while a further 11.9% are nonreligious (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion).[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-eb2005-demographics-24) According to a 2012 global poll conducted by WIN/GIA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIN/GIA), 13% of the participants say they are atheists.[25] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-wingia-25) According to another study, rates of self-reported atheism are among the highest in Western nations, again to varying degrees: United States (4%), Italy (7%), Spain (11%), Great Britain (17%), Germany (20%), and France (32%).[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-Harris-26)

[Hypertiger]

Quantum computing has a thing called a Qbit.

or a bit that can be 1 and 0 at the same time...or maybe

Maybe eventually becomes a certainty.

you all already have quantum computers.

Awareness of the Universe does not originate or exist inside the Universe.

Your body is only an anchor for your perspective.

You think your body matters...but it does not matter.

Your body is not infinite and indestructible...or Truth

Your body is finite and fragile...A lie you believe to be Truth which takes more power than It gives.

anywhere you look on Earth...people chop down trees the same way.

faster than they regrow.

All the cells in your body take more power than they give as well.

There is no such thing as a Human cell.

There are plant cells and animals cells...both take more power than they give to sustain existence...Both a lies that want to become Truth.

but can not.

the singularity is welcome to goodbye.

birth and death.

your mindless animal cells die for the same reason all you see that dies...appears to die.

They take more power than they give until the maximum potential is reached...and then they are forced to share power equally.

or give more power than they take to maximum potential.

A wave.

exponential growth to maximum potential followed by exponential decay to maximum potential.

Inflation followed by deflation.

or power greater than previous power to maximum potential followed by power less than previous power to maximum potential.

or Yes no yes no yes no.

Up down up down.

You roll the dice and want or demand victory or a winning roll...Or yes or 1

GOD only supplies what you need...not what you want or...zero...defeat....or No or 0

I'm right...if you do not think so.

What you think does not matter.

its anti matter in relation to matter.

[Hypertiger]

I'm not religious.

I reject all belief.

reason powers belief.

Logic powers reason.

Truth powers lies.

Truth = Logic...shares power equally with all and everything.

Lies = Reason...takes more power than it gives from all and everything.

You either know Truth or you do not know Truth.

if you do not know Truth.

then you are ignorant of Truth.

Ignorance of Truth is the root of all evil

Ignorance of knowledge is the cause of ignorance.

The glorious cause you are the champion of.

which you all demand I support or supply power to.

supply the demand for what you want.

the progression is

persuasion...force...annihilation.

Please give me what I want or else I will kill you.

believe what I believe or I will annihilate you.

I do not think believe or have faith.

I either know or I do not know.

I know what the logical conclusion of the reasonable assumption is before most people.

because you all demand to see something to "believe" it.

Since I do not believe...I can see now...instantaneously....What you all will spend the rest of your lives waiting around to see but never will.

[Hypertiger]

You and your computer is powered by Truth...You and it do not know Truth.

You and it are not Truth.

Both you and your computer must see Truth to know Truth.

People can know Truth.

and once you know Truth.

or how to supply Truth into equations to arrive at logical conclusions.

You see the death of reasonable assumptions before they die.

Think of a reasonable assumption as a lie you believe is Truth which you are following.

following to the logical conclusion of the reasonable assumption.

A leader that can not stop...marching off a cliff.

With you following behind to your doom.

I can see where so called leaders or reasonable assumptions are going before they know where they are going.

To the logical conclusion of the reasonable assumption.

[mick silver]

show us all the Truth wise one

[Hypertiger]

I did...but you are fighting to the death to remain asleep to continue to enjoy the dream you are awake.

You are fighting to the death to remain ignorant to enjoy the belief you are knowledgeable.

Since you believe ignorance is bliss.

There is not anything I can do to change your religion.

You are the master of the slave which is you.

I'm not.

but if I chose to be your master.

I would be.

Its simple...Just supply your demands for what you want.

The top or master maintains its position by supplying the bottom or slave with what they want.

That is what you all do...Just wait around for a handout....Like beggars that are also choosers.

That is why it is said beggars can't be choosers.

Of course you do not think you are a beggar.

"show us all the Truth wise one"

I see the pan you wish me to drop a coin in.

But I do not have what you want...just what you need.

So then you will have to wait around until someone else supplies your demand.

supply a fish to a person and you feed them for a day.

teach a person to fish and you feed them for life.

you will turn into a skeleton waiting for me to teach you what you think you already know...or do not want to know.

The just think positive ignore negative religion.

The embrace lies you believe are Truth or fantasies or positive.

reject/ignore Truth or reality or negative.

Like chopping down trees faster than they regrow to sustain your beliefs.

Your beliefs will be sustained or positive...as long as you do not run out of trees.

once you do...what I know will annihilate what you believe.

That is called...too bad so sad.

You are the one in charge of you.

I'm not.

It is up to you to know Truth.

Otherwise if you are ignorant of Truth...Liars and lies will be your master and you their slave...For as long as you worship ignorance as the path to salvation.

The quick fix is broken.

The permanent fix is not.

But you require a quick fix to sustain your existence until you can make a permanent fix.

You have to take more power than you give until you can switch to sharing power equally.

You all just follow the path of least resistance to the logical conclusion of the quick fix.

take more power than you give from all and everything like animals.

unfortunately for you all.

when you demand me to supply power.

I can choose to supply no.

and then you want to kill me.

I knew this before I even posted.

I do not have to be visible.

Because all you all do is try to kill me.

Because you all are just animals pretending to be or believe you are Human beings.

Its all part of your worship of lies as Truth.

Its your religion.

Not much I can do if you and all the people around you embrace ignorance as the path to salvation.

[mick silver]

the only master i have is the wife she told me so

[Horn]

Not much I can do if you and all the people around you embrace ignorance as the path to salvation.

Looks like they've embraced an absolute capitalistic AC system.

Actually a better responsible Social system truth would have been localized DC with solar, gridtie into supplemental AC backup.

BUT to bark about responsible Socialism whilst having very little of those same social skills is facetious on its face.

Don't swap your AC/DC, or you'll get the jack again.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djuNYdheD7k

We'd been better off with Edison's DC ideas.

[Hypertiger]

Absolute capitalism...taking more power than you give from all and everything

has

Lady liberty fighting against mother nature and mother nature fighting against lady liberty to obtain absolute power over all and everything.

lady Liberaty is a less powerful lie than mother nature.

and mother nature always wins.

Mother nature rules you and your wife.

and your wife is Lady Liberty.

Making you a man caught in the middle.

Since both men and women agree on one thing currently...They both hate woman.

Mother nature rules me...and I rule lady liberty in my relationship with my wife.

Supplying no to mother nature which demands yes to sustain existence is way harder than supplying no to lady liberty which demands yes to sustain existence.

Lady liberty chops down trees faster than they regrow to sustain the war against Mother nature.

Guess what side I always pick...So as to always have the highest probability of Victory?

Because if lady liberty tries to take more than she gives from mother nature to win the war against mother nature to obtain absolute power over all and everything.

You will think you are winning until you reach the logical conclusion of the reasonable assumption of victory.

Where you find defeat...When the axe swing demanding a hit is supplied with a miss that lifts the veil on the wedding dress of the abyss to receive the sweet kiss of the apocalypse of bliss.

[Hypertiger]

You are an antisocialist...You have zero clue what socialism is I'm sorry to point out...

ignorance of Truth is the root of all evil.

Opinion is based on a French word...The antonym or opposite of which...is fact.

so opinion is another word for fiction or lie.

so then everyone is entitled to their lies.

I have zero obligation to accept lies you believe are Truth.

Are Truth.

I do not care if 7 Billion people side with you...Kill me...and get on with your lives then.

[Hypertiger]

The owners are not supressing knowledge.

You all do not want to become knowledgeable.

Free will dictates that you have to choose to be ignorant...to be ignorant.

The Universe is perfectly fair, All and everything receives what all and everything deserves, and there is no hope.

[mick silver]

hey tiger post some links so we can have more knowledge that you talk of ... if you want to teach then teach , post some links of what you talk about

[Horn]

You are an antisocialist...You have zero clue what socialism is I'm sorry to point out...

You're the only absolute here, HT. Based on fact.

I have no need to know what tiny terms Socialism is defined into, as the Universe within and without me has eclipsed the details of it.

I am built with an internal "thorium" reactor.

[Hypertiger]

I employ responsible altruistic logic to solve the problem of existence...Its is why you are reading this...

you all

employ absolute self indulgent reason to solve the problem of existence.

I chop down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow...or not at all to sustain life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

you all chop down trees faster than they regrow to sustain life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

effort = work = negative

no effort = play = positive.

you all just want to play games from the day you are born till the day you die...that you think you are winning until you reach the logical conclusion...the logical conclusion of any game.

is game over.

I chop down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow playing a game with GOD.

Since GOD powers me and the trees.

I never win...I'm such a loser...I sure would like to be like all of you winners...please teach me how to chop down trees faster than they regrow to win the war against GOD.

You must know a secret way of how to do this...

the only way you all could be happy doing this...is if you worship ignorance as bliss.

freedom of religion...The top wants you all to be happy.

ignorant...like downs syndrome cases...then you are very easy to manipulate.

its why you all worship ignorance as the path to salvation...it is the default or mindless path that all and everything in the Universe including the Universe follows to the logical conclusion of the take more power than is given equation.

[Hypertiger]

It did take 6000+ years or so to figure out how to boil water and use the steam to be your slave.

Prior to that...You all were the slaves or the steam engines of progress to the logical conclusion.

[Hypertiger]

The Romans invading England ran into a problem...The population did not fear death...Truth

Unfortunately for the Druids...The Romans had superior technology for mowing down grass faster than it grows.

Eventually they subdued and subjugated the population and then socially engineered them into worshiping a new Truth fearing religion.

Then it was easy to manipulate the population into doing the bidding of the Romans...Since the penalty for refusing to believe Roman lies were Truth...was Death.

Its how you all are controlled today.

Please supply the demand for yield or else be annihilated.

Persuasion...force...annihilation.

[Hypertiger]

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."--General George Washington

It's also an obedient slave.

Please supply the demand for yield or else be annihilated.

Persuasion...force...annihilation.

[Hypertiger]

All your demands are a tax on the supply of your demands.

Which is all and everything in the Universe.

Taking more power than you give from all and everything is a tax on all and everything you all demand all and everything to pay.

Chopping down trees faster than they regrow to supply the demand of the axe tax.

Works great...Until the tax payers or Trees run out.

Chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow to supply the demand of the axe tax.

does not suffer from the above problem.

The first way to pay the taxes is antisocial behaviour.

The second way is social behaviour.

The first way is superior/1 and then turns inferior/zero

The second way is inferior/zero and then turns superior/1.

You missed the turn way back in the past somewhere and are lost in the future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis

this simple to solve problem has plagued the people of Earth...for all of history...recorded or not.

[Horn]

Chopping down trees faster than they regrow to supply the demand of the axe tax.

Works great...Until the tax payers or Trees run out.

Chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow to supply the demand of the axe tax

You must've done some calculation from tree BTU to the kwh you spend on your computer, with that absolutely repetitive tree statement.

Where's the calcs.?

http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=41568.0

[Hypertiger]

King conservative male...moves one space...zero...or negative

Queen liberal female...moves as many spaces as possible...1...or positive

Father is the architect

Mother is the oracle

Key is the you know what

keyhole is the you know what

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuWHE5p9Pek

I was born into the matrix...So were all of you.

[Hypertiger]

Wake up an smell the saw dust...

Taking more power than you give...or chopping down trees faster than they regrow...is absolute capitalism...living beyond your means...or plunder.

"When plunder (taking more power than you give) becomes a way of life for a group of men (people or absolute capitalists) living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal (Rule) system that authorizes it and a moral code (Religion) that glorifies it."--Frederic Bastiat, the LAW.

The USA has been plundered down into the ground for its entire history...it reached maximum potential in 2008...and has been collapsing since then along with the rest of the world that has been powered by plunder.

[Hypertiger]

The USA was able to supply the demand for gold exports out of the USA until 1971.

prior to 1971...the USA was being plundered of silver and gold by the rest of the world...hint...London...and the US population was ignorant of this because when you do the calculations to see the balance of trade.

If the demand and supply equation are equal...the trade balance is zero.

But when the mines run dry...then it becomes impossible to maintain a zero trade balance...and then you see a visible imbalance.

Do you get it yet?

The USA is a looted out shell now...after centuries of plunder...all the vast forrest chopped down in the past...the majority was used as fire wood...and the trees were part of ancient rain forests...with trees as big around as redwoods...and they are gone...it would take 1000 years to grow back what was chopped down in a few centuries.

You are not going back to the olden days I'm sorry to say.

I know how to use math better than people that go to university to be trained to use math.

the universe sustains the universities.

The universities do not sustain the universe.

I know math...thanks.

[Horn]

Wake up an smell the saw dust...

Nobody has western forest population from 1620.

I meant factual calculations, born of altruistic logic.

[JohnQPublic]

The USA was able to supply the demand for gold exports out of the USA until 1971.

prior to 1971...the USA was being plundered of silver and gold by the rest of the world...hint...London...and the US population was ignorant of this because when you do the calculations to see the balance of trade.

If the demand and supply equation are equal...the trade balance is zero.

But when the mines run dry...then it becomes impossible to maintain a zero trade balance...and then you see a visible imbalance.

Do you get it yet?

The USA is a looted out shell now...after centuries of plunder...all the vast forrest chopped down in the past...the majority was used as fire wood...and the trees were part of ancient rain forests...with trees as big around as redwoods...and they are gone...it would take 1000 years to grow back what was chopped down in a few centuries.

You are not going back to the olden days I'm sorry to say.

I know how to use math better than people that go to university to be trained to use math.

the universe sustains the universities.

The universities do not sustain the universe.

I know math...thanks.

Wow. You dropped the level of abstraction 2-3 points on a log scale. There appears to be a human behind Hypertiger!

[Hypertiger]

When the trees run out to supply the demand of the log charts...for logs...that is where you find the logical conclusion of the reasonable assumption.

All that the Universities pump out are money chasing trained monkeys.

I'm of course a high school trained monkey chasing after money...Since the penalty for refusal to supply the demand for yield...is ultimately death.

When in Rome do as the Romans...or be crucified.

[Hypertiger]

Yes like I said...You need to see to believe.

That is reason.

I employ logic.

I do not need to see to believe what I already know...and whether you know what I know or not...is insignificant.

Your opinion is nice...But it is only relevant to me due to its irrelevance me.

Your opinion was known before you choose to attempt to educate me as to what your opinion is.

I helped to build the electronic computerized digital virtual reality world in which you all exist.

I know how it operates and its ultimate goal.

To amass enough power to a lie to defeat Truth and obtain absolute power over all and everything.

Which is impossible.

But like all the just think positive drones keep telling me...nothing is impossible if you put your mind to it and if at first you do not succeed...try try again.

Ultimately as long as the rate (doubling time/inflation/growth) at which people are created out of thin air is greater than the rate (half life/deflation/decay) at which they return back into thin air.

The supply of autonomous absolute capitalist drones or slaves to sustain the master system will not run out.

Making me 100% irrelevant in the scheme of things....equal to zero...negative...in relation to 7 Billion+ which are positive or 1

I exist due to the fact I look like all of you so basically I can hide in plain sight and its against the rules to kill people without a legal excuse according to the program all have accepted and are trying to follow to the maximum potential of their ability one way or the other to the logical conclusion.

No one has decided to destroy my body all these decades including me...That is why you are reading this.

Of course if I had the power to cause all the rules you all believe to be LAW...To become LAW or self enforcing...What you all call civilization would deadlock, stop functioning, and implode to oblivion in the blink of an eye.

[mick silver]

this could be a new world record for thanks from the tiger

[Hypertiger]

http://hypertiger.blogspot.ca/2008/02/game-you-have-those-who-choose-to-take.html

the above was from an old post...

"In 1938 the six year average petroleum production of the USA was...

924 Billion barrels of oil a year.

Now it's 3.2 Billion barrels of oil a year"

924 Billion barrels of oil a year is a typo...and because I used old books...I have to find the book I got it from to do the math.

I know that due to the fracking the past few years the 3.2 Billion number is wrong...its higher now.

[mick silver]

The top is the rider and the bottom is the horse.

[mick silver]

so tiger when will they start to manipulated the price of food as they do all the other markets such as the stock market . what i am asking will they drive the prices of food so high that people will be force to buy less are raise veg gardens

[Hypertiger]

The sun of GOD has all the followers trying to run to catch up with the sun but its sinking...racing around to come up behind you again...the sun is the same in a relative way...but you are older.

shorter of breath and one day closer to death.

All the comets and everything are doing what you see in the video.

The sun is also following a spiral sine wave around the center of the galaxy to the center of the galaxy.

My eyes see the same things as your eyes...Just differently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbK34NaMnQ4

This is an American as far as I know with a vastly different perspective as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdfVVd2Ap38

Relativity is a word...not a theory.

But the theory attached the word is suspect.

Just as evolution is a word...with a theory attached to it that is suspect.

relativity and evolution...exist.

The theories attached to the words...Are products of absolute self indulgent reason.

[Hypertiger]

You rub two sticks of wood together fast...you will produce fire...or plasma.

You rub a magnet and copper close together fast...you produce electricity...ultimately an electric flame...or plasma.

[Horn]

http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/original_207368_8jiqsXRQ1a88v5DOmoPw1mkT1.jpg

The price tag on this vehicle, should it be a production model? Your guess is as good as mine, but it would probably be cheaper than buying a new car and fueling it every several years for the next century.

http://www.myperfectautomobile.com/alternative-fuels/cadillac-wtf.html

Because thorium reactors (http://www.thorium.tv/en/thorium_reactor/thorium_reactor_1.php)s present no proliferation risk, and because they solve the safety problems associated with earlier reactors, they will be able to use reasonable rather than obsessive standards for security and reliability. If we can reach the $145-in-1971-dollars/kW milestone experienced by Commonwealth Edison in 1971, we can decrease costs for a 1-gigawatt plant to at most $780 million, rather than the $1,100 million to build such a plant today. In fact, you might be able to go as low as $220 million or below, if 80% of reactor costs truly are attributable to expensive anti-meltdown measures. A thorium reactor (http://www.thorium.tv/en/thorium_reactor/thorium_reactor_1.php) does not, in fact, need a containment wall. Putting the reactor vessel in a standard industrial building is sufficient.

http://www.thorium.tv/en/thorium_costs/thorium_costs.php (http://www.thorium.tv/en/thorium_costs/thorium_costs.php)

[Hypertiger]

the prices of everything are slowing being raised by the top as the dropping yields go lower and lower and the yield starvation increases.

The yields have been dropping in the USA for 32 years...you all have a demand from the system for a yield of power.

in 1981...the demand by you all from you all was 14%

Bonds...are short for bondage.

You have been trying to escape from bondage by investing into bondage.

when the demand for bondage is higher than the supply of bondage....the price of bondage rises...while the yield from bondage drops.

Basically the FED has been following a trend for the past 32 years....powered by all of you...but the FED has been claiming to be leading you all to where you all are taking yourselves.

The FED does no set yield rates from bondage.

you all do...trying to escape of gain your freedom from the demand for yield from you by you all...is powering the USA and world into oblivion.

[Horn]

After running some altruistic logic number estimates,

this thorium Cadillac should cost approx. 42 Bitcoin in the year 2020.

[Hypertiger]

The price will be unaffordable to you all.

What do you think...you will just exist and be given everything for free?

What are you going to do for a living when there is no requirement to continue funding your continued existence?

You are not the source of your income...

You require funding...a fundable asset.

once you transform into an unfundable liability.

like when power is supplied to you and you produce less power in return than you take to sustain.

a fundable asset transforms into an unfundable liability.

and is liquidated one way or the other.

what is to be done with all the billions of fundable assets that currently exist that will rapidly transform into unfundable liabilities when all the new technology that currently exists but has not been implemented displaces you all.

The entire global banking credit system can be replaced with a program that is small enough to be coded on a microcontroller right now.

Removing the requirement to have all the banks and support infrastructure globally.

Most of the prices you pay for high-tech electronics now is mostly just mark up.

A $900 LCD TV.

Ultimately costs a few Dollars to produce....There is just massive mark up.

[Hypertiger]

Yes you have existed as a goof off for so long...its like positive reinforcement.

You actually think that people that are serious are going to continue to supply your demands when the system collapses and there is no rule system to force all the serious people to sustain the goof offs?

Altruism is me telling you what is coming...Not saving you from what you have to save yourself from.

[mick silver]

walmarts got 60 in lcd tvs for under 300.00 bucks . dam what walmart do you shop at .......... get to go an milk the sheep ohoh i mean cow

[Horn]

its like positive reinforcement.

Yep, that's what keeps the lights on over here.

The universe provides what I need, and I relay it to where it needs to go.

Like a never ending bridge network, I hop from one collapsing bridge to the next, its guaranteed for life thru leaps of faith.

[Hypertiger]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276043/Britains-oldest-light-bulb-shining-incredible-130-years.html

If the light bulbs were not designed to burn out after awhile...the entire manufacturing sector would collapse.

You all put almost no thought into your economic thinking...same as monkeys.

Which employ absolute self indulgent reason as well.

Ants employ absolute self indulgent reason as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prjhQcqiGQc all mindlessly following the path of least resistance to the logical conclusion of the reasonable assumption of faith.

http://www.zmescience.com/research/how-scientists-tught-monkeys-the-concept-of-money-not-long-after-the-first-prostitute-monkey-appeared/

Just get the male monkey to supply you with more food than the female monkey demands to be supplied with...and you can live off the interest or yield...aka usury.

Just increase the size of the master hierarchy...and you will be able to extract more and more power from all of your mindless slaves

Money was invented by superior forms of life or the master to manipulate lower forms of life or slaves into doing the bidding of the higher forms of life master.

all the slaves in the master system supply all their real power to the master and the master uses all the real power to create the servant or fake power all slave for.

money.

[Horn]

What an engine, like Texas radio and the big beat!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaIZWjItReI

[Hypertiger]

The absolute capitalist hierarchical food powered make work enterprise.

the city state or what you all call civilization.

ants are animals

people are animals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozkBd2p2piU

Mindless ants were building city states before mindless people were....According to the recorded history of lies believed to be Truth.

[Hypertiger]

All money is decreed money...fiat...

The top says this is money...Or else...period end of story....

The easiest prey of the hunter gatherer is the farmer and the simplest operation is the protection scheme

the purpose of the police and military is to protect the top or cause from the bottom or consequences.

You Farmer are on the Land owned by the LORD of the land and will pay tribute to the LORD of 1 Gold coin a year...

Where do I get this GOLD coin?

You can take one short ton of grain to the grain bank of the LORD and there you will be given a GOLD coin for it and then you can give the gold coin to the servant of the LORD...

What if I refuse?

Then the LORD will drive you from the Land that the LORD is the LORD of...

There you go an abundant supply of free food to power your wildest hopes and dreams...Lies and delusions...

22 And the Lord said, Behold! The man has become as one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put forth his hand and also take from the Tree of Life, and eat, and live forever,
23 The Lord sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground out of which he was taken.
24 And He drove the man out. And He lodged the cherubs at the east of the Garden of Eden, and the flaming sword whirling around to guard the way of the Tree of Life.

Well what is done with all that Food the tillers of the LORD's land give the LORD as Tribute?

It powers the Absolute capitalist Hierarchical food powered make work enterprise.

The city state...Or Civilization...

The Lord or lies work in mysterious ways.

GOD or Truth...does not.

[Hypertiger]

"And now, lest he put forth his hand and also take from the Tree of Life, and eat, and live forever"

taking more than you give from the tree of life.

is the same as chopping down trees faster than they regrow to sustain ever lasting life.

the lie masquerading as Truth is sustained until the trees run out...then its the lifting of the veil...the apocalypse of bliss.

Sharing power equally with the tree of life

is the same as chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow to sustain everlasting life.

the lie is sustained until the trees run out...but never do...The lie is revealed to be Truth and not a lie.

ignorant capitalism...or 0

Vs

knowledgeable capitalism...or 1

The flaming sword whirling around guarding the Tree of life?

It is a lie you all believe is Truth and worship as such.

Worshiping ignorance as bliss.

You all want to be dumb (ignorance = bliss or positive)...not smart...since If you worship ignorance = bliss...or negative = positive.

Then knowledge = misery...or positive = negative...to you all.

"When plunder (absolute capitalism/taking more than you give/Living beyond your means) becomes a way of life for a group of men (People/absolute capitalists) living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal (Rule) system that authorizes it and a moral code (Religion) that glorifies it."--Frederic Bastiat, The Law.

[Horn]

Almost as good as Grease 2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPo0Lkr64Q8

[Hypertiger]

Yes you are having a typical drone immune response. I've see this for the entire history of the Internet...When a drone does not have a leg to stand on.

The Rumplstiltskin effect.

You say...what is my name?

I say...Is it Rumplstiltskin?

You twist and squirm and make a fool of yourself....I guess trying to prove you are not.

[Horn]

Where is the wine The New Wine (dying on the vine) resident mockery give us an hour for magic, We of the purple glove.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33rjiQ8WifM

Every prophet needs a hook, to fish men.

[Hypertiger]

They conspire to worship a hyperinflationary messiah to provide a false profit to the lustful desire of the glorious lake of fire

Until they tire of dancing within the pyres that transform them into wailing criers

As the dire revelation of being sellers and buyers of illusions is found to be the wrong way to acquire salvation from lies and liars

Which demand them all to be ignorant suppliers of life to power the continual birth of vampires of desire

For death and damnation they ultimately transpire to sire.

That exponentially bloom and consume their souls until they expire

[Horn]

transpire with remaining eternally for hire.

Into serfdom's expire.

[Horn]

Its got to end on a broken note slide rule down nuance.

To be called real music.

notice the slide rule down nuance.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1JAhFAQigY

[Hypertiger]

can you picture what will be...

so limitless and free...

if you only knew...how to flee...

Instead of trying...

To follow me

[Hypertiger]

All the threads on the world wide web of lies you think are Truth follow the path of least resistance to the logical conclusion of the reasonable assumption.

You were damned before you thought you began to play a game that was done before it was begun.

With me its welcome to goodbye in the blink of an eye.

No matter how hard you try to make me believe you can fly.

On the Internet the best you can achieve is a tie.