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mick silver
16th November 2013, 06:55 PM
Mike Rowe, widely-known from the hit TV show “Dirty Jobs” and a series of Ford commercials, appeared on The Glenn Beck Program Wednesday to discuss his efforts with the mikeroweWORKS Foundation (http://profoundlydisconnected.com/foundation/) in challenging “the absurd belief that a four-year degree is the only path to success.”
“We’re lending money we don’t have, to kids who will never be able to pay it back, for jobs that no longer exist,” he explained, echoing what he told TheBlaze TV’s Andrew Wilkow (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/10/dirty-jobs-mike-rowe-unveils-exciting-new-scholarship-program-plus-read-the-amazing-s-w-e-a-t-pledge-students-must-take-first/) earlier this month. “That’s crazy, right? That’s what we’ve been doing for the last forty years.”
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Mike-Rowe-620x339.png (http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Mike-Rowe.png)Mike Rowe speaks with Glenn Beck about mikeroweWORKS. (Photo: TheBlaze TV)

Rowe’s motivation for the work largely began with what he described as “the worst advice in the history of the world” – a poster he saw in high school challenging students to “work smart, not hard.” The picture of the person working “smart” was holding a diploma, and the person working “hard” looked miserable performing some form of manual labor.
“Today, skilled trades are in demand. In fact, there are 3 million jobs out there that companies are having a hard time filling. So we thought that skilled trades could do with a PR campaign,” he said with a smile. “So we took the same idea, went ahead and vandalized it. Work smart AND hard.’”
And with that, he unveiled a similar photo — but with the person working hard now more successful than the person simply holding a degree.
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Work-Smart-AND-Hard-362x620.png (http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Work-Smart-AND-Hard.png)(Photo via mikeroweWORKS)

When Beck thanked him, saying that not everyone needs an Ivy League education and he would recommend you shy away from it, though, Rowe said he wanted to make something clear.


“I’m not against a college education. I’m against debt,” he said. “That was the only four letter word in my family…”
What he’s against, Rowe added, is that we started promoting college “at the expense” of the vocational training that, in many cases, is what’s actually needed for the career.
“It’s not about, this is good or this is bad,” Rowe said. “It’s about, when did it make sense to say one size fits everybody? It never ever ever made sense to do that, and yet we’re still selling education the same way we sold it when you and I were in high school.”
Of the roughly three million jobs that companies are struggling to fill, Rowe said only 8 to 12 percent require a college degree.
“That’s not me saying don’t go to college. I’m saying, to start your life [$150,000] in the hole, [$80,000] in the hole with your art history major…that’s why you’ve got a trillion dollars in debt. These kids can’t find a job that they’ve been trained for, and the expectation is, it should be waiting for me. It ain’t.”
At mikeroweWorks, they’re flipping the traditional notion of scholarships on its head by aiding students who demonstrate a solid work ethic, not financial need or academic or athletic merit.
“Why don’t we reward kids who are willing to learn a new trade, a useful skill, and…prove that they’re willing to get up early, stay late, and volunteer for every crappy task there is?” he said. “Let’s reward the thing we want to encourage. Long story short, we raised $800,000 for work ethic scholarships for this one school [Midwestern Technical Institute].”
And he said that’s only the beginning. Be sure to watch the full clip, below:
Complimentary Clip from TheBlaze TV (http://www.theblaze.com/tv/?utm_campaign=ShowPlayer&utm_source=theblaze&utm_m edium=top)Your browser does not support iframes.Rowe said there’s a difference between work and labor, explaining that “work is the thing you admire, [and] labor is the thing you have to do.”
“This whole topic always boils down to management vs. workers…the blue, the white collar. Enough with the color of collars,” he declared. “The way to talk about work is through the context of, what are you addicted to? Are you addicted to smooth roads? …Cheap electricity? Indoor plumbing? I am. So if you share my addiction to the fruits of skilled labor, you’ve got skin in this game. So I think if you start to engage a bigger hunk of people, not just management and not just labor, if you really start to have a conversation about work and education, about affordability, everybody can take a micro-macro look at this thing.”
When asked to summarize what he needs to continue the effort, Rowe directed people to mikeroweWORKS.com (http://mikeroweworks.com/), saying it’s a “PR campaign for hard work, skilled labor, alternative education, entrepreneurship and invention – but most of all, hard work.”
He added that he’s uncomfortable asking people for money outright, but if you buy a “work smart and hard” poster, not only does it further the scholarships, but you can “hang it up at a high school…a factory floor, a construction site, just to get people talking about the idea that not all knowledge comes from college.”
Beck said he believes in what Rowe is doing, and concluded the program by giving him a $20,000 check from his Charity, Mercury One (http://www.mercuryone.org/).
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Shami-Amourae
16th November 2013, 07:17 PM
I try to communicate this message to others who are thinking of going to college or are already in college. Every single one of them has blown me off and been hostile at the thought that they are wrong.
:(

Barbaro
16th November 2013, 10:55 PM
Good article, Mick Silver.

In recent years, more and more people have been publicly noting that a massive number of Uni grads (laden with high SL debts) are doing jobs that do not require a degree. And, these jobs are often low-paying service sector jobs with no bennies.

Because of the cost, I am skeptical of the value - and integrity - of a 4-year degree.

I graduated with a BA 20 years ago, and the tuition was reasonable then at a state Uni. Now, the tuition costs has risen astronomically, as well as rent, textbooks, etc.

The exception is STEM. For those studying STEM and who are good at it, a uni degree will help.

Many of the benefits of a Uni degree are learning more about the world, institutions and expanding critical thinking abilities.

However....with the availability of information from the internet, self-education is now much more possible than when I was in school 20 years ago.

Twisted Titan
17th November 2013, 04:08 AM
Liberal teachers with their fat pensions are having emegency meetings as we speaking scrambling to find a way to fool the next crop of goys to be slaugthered.

EE_
17th November 2013, 04:50 AM
I spent my life in the building trades. It was a great life in the early years. There were good jobs for everyone, with good benefits. Tradesmen were expected/required to know a lot about their trade.

As time went by, it became specialized. Many of the trades trained people to do one task. What it's become, is a form of roaming factory workes. People that no longer give a shit about what they do, or have pride in their work.
California was at the forefront of this specialization. Yeah I know, all great ideas come out of California first.

Unlike many other careers and business, the building trades could never be outsourced to cheap labor. So what was the solution? Insource cheap workers from Mexico!

At one time I'd be all for recommending the building trades for a career choice...not anymore. Safety rules are rediculas and grown men workers are treated like children.

Companies are always crying about how they're losing money and pushing for faster. Not necessarily bad, but not necessarily true. Competition is brutal.

If a guy can have his own construction company and find people willing to work, it still can be a decent business providing you don't get too big.

If you just want to be a roaming factory worker, with unreal time schedules, like being treated like a child with lots of rules, and don't mind crapping in a plastic box while wearing protective clothing on a 90 degree day. This life may be for you!

Oh, learning Spanish is helpful.

Jewboo
17th November 2013, 04:58 AM
So what was the solution? Insource cheap workers from Mexico!




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ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO USE A PICK AND SHOVEL


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:rolleyes: gringo unions destroyed American construction

madfranks
17th November 2013, 05:33 AM
The exception is STEM. For those studying STEM and who are good at it, a uni degree will help.


STEM = Science, Technology, Engineering, Medicine?

MNeagle
17th November 2013, 05:46 AM
Close: Science, Tech, Engineering, MATH

gunDriller
17th November 2013, 09:13 AM
alt approach to getting an education - get somebody else to pay for it.

preferably, someone besides the US military.

ShortJohnSilver
17th November 2013, 09:48 AM
STEM , you have to compete with H1B Indians who as soon as they get into mgmt only hire their own.

Hatha Sunahara
17th November 2013, 10:18 AM
I think the advice of Mark Twain is appropriate here. He said: "I never allowed my schooling to interfere with my education." 'Schooling' is not education. You go to school to learn how to read, write, and do math. Once you master those skills, you use them to get an education however you can--but you educate yourself. No one does this for you, and no certificate, diploma, degree, or any other piece of paper means that you are educated. It only means you've been through some level of schooling. The more schooling you have beyond what it took to acquire the basic learning skills (reading, writing and rithmetic), the more you are conditioned to fit into the 'corporate mold' which puts very high value on conformity, obedience, and loyalty. Their codeword for that is 'team player'. You go along to get along, even if you know better from your education. You agree to never question authority and to enforce that taboo on your peers. All this in exchange for a regular paycheck. If you work for the government, you don't need to work hard or smart--you are a part of some bureaucrat's empire, and your main job is to keep the empire going and not falling apart by talking about it. Education is most valuable when it is developed to a degree where you can work smart and hard with a sense of integrity and honor FOR YOURSELF.


Hatha

VX1
17th November 2013, 11:59 AM
STEM , you have to compete with H1B Indians who as soon as they get into mgmt only hire their own.

This is my life. So "interesting" leading a team that can barely speak English and was all able to completely fabricate their resumes to get hired. Then there's the ones who brag about their free college education they got back home, paid for by the American tax payer... ain't that a bitch.

mick silver
17th November 2013, 12:32 PM
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gunDriller
17th November 2013, 01:55 PM
the terrible advice i am hearing is that it is time to sell commodities & buy stocks.


Yeah, sell PM's at an artificial bottom to buy stocks at an artificial top.

that makes sense ! /sarc


i'd like to hear a talking head admit the obvious - it's a great time to sell stocks & buy PM's.

Libertytree
17th November 2013, 02:58 PM
Personally I think Rowe should be commended for his efforts and his line of thought, it's an aspect of "education" that needs addressed, it's one of those things that really is based on common sense, pure and simple.

I wish there had been more emphasis put on what I guess would be called "secondary ed" when I was in school, I might have thrived? For instance, skills such as leather working, glass working, different types of wood working, metalurgy etc... and then of course onto bigger things such as auto, HVAC, vo-tech etc...

There are lots of potentially lost trades/arts that could be opened up to everyone and would include the community and its involvement in the learning of its young.. Start out in the lower grades with simple crafts and make the progression upward.

mick silver
19th November 2013, 05:03 AM
it look like a group on the left an right are mad over what he doing

ximmy
19th November 2013, 01:30 PM
I'm working in an environment I didn't get a formal education for.

All that research and paper writing for my Master's degree didn't get me a job.

My passion for art in advertizing keeps me happy and employed.

Libertytree
19th November 2013, 01:51 PM
I'm working in an environment I didn't get a formal education for.

All that research and paper writing for my Master's degree didn't get me a job.

My passion for art in advertizing keeps me happy and employed.

Xim, you are blessed, if you can find that balance and are happy, kudos my friend!

gunDriller
19th November 2013, 02:00 PM
the most skilled engineers i met in Silicon Valley had Bachelor's degrees.

some of the most skilled are people with no degrees or community college degrees.


however, degrees do help at negotiating your salary time - if you get there.

once i had a cop with a PhD in literature give me a ticket for bicycling.

Libertytree
19th November 2013, 02:16 PM
the most skilled engineers i met in Silicon Valley had Bachelor's degrees.

some of the most skilled are people with no degrees or community college degrees.


however, degrees do help at negotiating your salary time - if you get there.

once i had a cop with a PhD in literature give me a ticket for bicycling.

Like the cop that gave me an illegal parking ticket after me having the living shit beat beat out me and the dudes tried to kill me, I was lucky to have made it that parking space. He could have cared less, all he saw was the parking infraction. Luckily the dude at that biz owned that space refused to press charges against me, cop was pissed! That biz was the AP news outlet for that little town.