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24th November 2013, 07:13 AM
Jeff Berwick on Practical Solutions to a Collapsing World Order With Anthony Wile (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2012/) - November 24, 2013
The Daily Bell is pleased to present this exclusive interview with Jeffrey Berwick
Introduction: Jeff Berwick is an anarchist, libertarian and freedom fighter against mankind's two biggest enemies, the state and the central banks. Jeff is chief editor of The Dollar Vigilante, an anarcho-capitalist, Austrian economics based newsletter focused on surviving The End Of The Monetary System As We Know It (TEOTMSAWKI) and CEO of TDV Media and Services, which provides internationalization information and solutions for yourself and your wealth. He is also host of Anarchast, an anarchist video podcast, and is a contributing editor at many of the world's largest financial and precious metals related websites. In 1994, Jeff Berwick founded Canada's largest financial website, Stockhouse.com. A prominent speaker at many of the world's freedom, investment and gold conferences as well as regularly in the media including CNBC, CNN and Fox Business, Jeff expatriated long ago from his country of birth, Canada, and considers himself a citizen of the world. He has lived in numerous locales since including Los Angeles, Hong Kong, Bangkok and currently lives in Acapulco, Mexico and is building a home in Cafayate, Argentina. In essence, everything he writes about for TDV he has done or is doing.
Daily Bell: What's going on, Jeff?
Jeff Berwick: What isn't going on! We certainly live in interesting times and it is going to even get more interesting from here.
Daily Bell: Is the world getting crazier or is it just our imagination?
Jeff Berwick: That's exactly what I was saying. I am surprised so many people are so unaware about what is really going on in the political, economic and financial worlds. If they were aware, they'd be shocked. And, if they lack any moral philosophy and economic historical knowledge, probably dismayed. But maybe many purposely keep themselves in the dark for their own mental protection. I hear "I don't want to know" a lot. But like Ayn Rand said, "You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality."
Daily Bell: What's the biggest issue on your plate? What are you most concerned about?
Jeff Berwick: I sum it up as The End Of The Monetary System As We Know It (TEOTMSAWKI), which is sort of an all-encompassing acronym for the fact that the political, financial and economic systems we have lived in for the last 40 years are all on the cusp of collapse. That collapse is actually a good thing, as the world has never been less free in human history thanks to the explosion in the size of the state during the last couple of centuries. But the transition from these systems to what will hopefully be a much freer system will be dangerous. And, of course, there is the possibility that when they collapse things get even worse as people panic and give governments and central banks (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2958/) even more power. In either case, this is the most dangerous time in history for capital.
Daily Bell: Give us some background, for readers who don't know you.
Jeff Berwick: I've been interviewed twice in the past by The Daily Bell so those who are interested can look at those interviews for a more detailed answer on my history. What I am really, though, is a truth-seeker. I want to know what the truth is and am not scared to dig far down the rabbit hole to find it. Secondly, I don't believe in thinking collectively when it comes to nations, but I do have a warm spot in my heart for humanity as a whole, and also for all the wondrous living things that are here on this space rock with us. And, because of that, I want to see everyone and everything living as happily as they can. It is my opinion, certainly as far as humanity is concerned, that the best way to make that happen is to spread the word of freedom and to rally against those who try to enslave and oppress others. Those people most often are the ones pulling the levers of government ... one of the worst ideas still being propagated on this planet.
Freedom from governments and the centralized violence of their laws and regulations isn't a desire to hurt or damage others or the environment; it's the only moral system and it turns out that it is has the very real side effect of constantly driving technological progress and standards of living.
Daily Bell: Are things getting worse economically for the West? For the US?
Jeff Berwick: I think it is unquestionable. I've been writing for years with proof of that. But you just have to look at numbers in recent weeks to see that is empirically the case. Unemployment in Spain is 26.6% and in Greece it's 27.6%. It's even worse for younger people who are really feeling the brunt of the socialist (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1901/) systems that have been in place for decades. Youth unemployment in Greece tops 75%! And, the real unemployment rate in the US is well over 20% when measured in the old way that doesn't try to hide realities that would cause unrest among the populace. Not to mention that 1 in 6 people in the US is on food stamps... 1 in 4 children is on food stamps. The entire Western world is already in a deep depression as bad as the 1930s depression and it is going to get much worse from here.
Daily Bell: Is the US coming out of a recession?
Jeff Berwick: I think I can best answer that question with a question. What is a recession? What I mean by that is that the standard ways the government, media and economists calculate "a recession" make no sense. The entire West, and most of the world, is run rampant with incorrect economic thinking. GDP, as just one example, is a fallacy. It does not denote "growth" or "recession." Adding up the price of everything sold into one number for a geographic region does not say very much at all about the true economic health of the people of that region. If that were the case then, as Paul Krugman would advise, we should destroy every city in the West and rebuild it, as it would massively increase GDP as people's savings were used to just get them back to where they were before their cities were destroyed. It's a ludicrous concept.
The US is already in a depression that has just begun. There are no green shoots. There is no recovery. All that is happening is the Federal Reserve (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1855/) is printing new money (QE) and fooling people, temporarily, into thinking they are richer than they are as their existing earnings buy less and they have to take on more debt to keep their standard of living from plummeting. They'll soon find out the truth as that new money destroys their purchasing power and their lives get painfully downsized.
And so, to answer your question of whether the US is coming out a recession – where a recession or depression is a general decline in the standard of living – I think the answer is not only is the US not coming out of a recession but it is still in just the preliminary stages of a depression.
Daily Bell: What's your take on Obamacare (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/28358/) and Obama? Is his administration gradually imploding?
Jeff Berwick: Many people incorrectly state that Obama and Obamacare are socialist. Obamacare in its current form is fascist (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1902/) and part of crapitalism – crony capitalism (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1903/). It is just forcing people to use private, monopolistic insurance companies or be fined. Luckily, however, as with most things government does it is totally incompetent. This may be the fastest government program to implode in history.
Daily Bell: Will Obamacare be overturned? What will its impact be? Is the real goal a single payer system? How's that working out for Canada?
Jeff Berwick: Considering that its real results have been tens of millions of people losing their medical insurance (and having their rates increased by as much as 500%) with just a few thousand people actually receiving medical insurance, it will be interesting to see just how far the federal government can push the American sheeple until they finally have enough. As for Kanada, I have countless personal horror stories of the medical system there, as I was born and lived there until I was in my early 30s. I spend a lot of my time in Mexico now and much prefer the free-market medical system in Mexico to either of its fasco-communist (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1900/) northern neighbors.
Daily Bell: What about the Tea Party (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1878/) in the US? We think the movement is getting bigger.
Jeff Berwick: What I have found interesting is that the libertarian mindset is so foreign to the political class one-party system that Harry Reid (Communist-Nevada) called Tea Partiers anarchists! They for the most part aren't anarchists at all but constitutionalists or minarchists. What is nice, however, is that the word libertarian is finally being understood in the "land of the free" and is actually a cool thing to be now. Glenn Beck, who is a neocon (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2944/), calls himself a libertarian. Bill Maher, who is a liberal, calls himself a libertarian. And the Republican Party (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/28313/) is actually realizing that if they want a chance of winning, they will have to get the vote of the Ron Paul (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/859/) libertarians. Even better is that if libertarians form a substantial part of the Republican Party, it will destroy the Republican Party as we know it and soon after it will destroy the federal government. Because once people become libertarian it usually isn't very long until they become true anarchists and realize that government itself is an unnecessary evil. A popular Internet meme (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/654/) put it best: "What's the difference between a libertarian and an anarchist? About six months."
Daily Bell: What's going on with Chase? Why the new limits on international wires and cash transactions, both deposits and withdrawals, for small business accounts?
Jeff Berwick: Capital controls have been and are rapidly coming into effect in the US. But, they are doing it quite sneakily. The biggest thing to watch on this front is Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2916/) (FATCA), which is set to come into effect in July, 2014. FATCA essentially tries to make every bank on Earth a spy arm of the IRS (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/28213/). Most banks outside of the US are not willing to do what it takes to comply with this act and therefore, by extension, it will be nearly impossible for an American to get a foreign bank account. It already is, in fact. It's de facto capital control. That's why we urge people to make moves to get the majority of their assets outside of the US as quickly as possible. It's not easy, but we have set up many services (http://dollarvigilante.com/tdv-resources) to help people do that such as TDV Offshore, TDV Wealth Management and TDV Passports.
Daily Bell: What's going on with China? The economy there is supposed to be improving.
Jeff Berwick: China is certainly a very interesting place. A massive amount of wealth has been created since they let go of the shackles of communism and replaced it with their own brand of fascist capitalism. They have many of the same problems as the US, however, with insolvent government-propped-up banks and central bank money printing. They don't have the debt levels of the US, however, so it should do much better there than in the US over the coming years. But expect it to be a wild ride.
Daily Bell: China, Germany, London – all these regions are supposedly seeing new real estate bubbles. Your opinion?
Jeff Berwick: Bubbles, bubbles everywhere. Central banks around the world, including the three just mentioned, have been printing money at unprecedented levels causing massive misallocation of capital and yes, some of that new money is going into real estate. In the US most of the money has been going into the massive bubble in government debt, which has increased from $900 billion in 1980 to over $17 trillion today... and into the stock market, which is seeing nominal new highs. But, in real terms, the Dow is still down nearly 50% from 2000.
Daily Bell: Some non-economic questions. You spoke of the militarization of the police last time. Any updates?
Jeff Berwick: Updates? Where to begin! Since we last spoke the entire city of Boston was locked down while people hid in their houses and what can only be described as a military police force broke in people's doors and terrorized people in their supposed search for a skinny 19-year-old boy with a rice cooker. The Department of Homeland InSecurity has purchased 4.5 billion hollow point bullets... more than 10 for every man, woman and child in the US. And police departments around the country have been buying tanks.
Police now are the biggest threat to your personal safety in the US. Police kill a person's dog in his home during a no-knock raid on average every 19 minutes and are regularly fingering and anally probing people if they look like they are clenching their buttocks and possibly hiding substances that violate the modern day War on People prohibition on certain recreation.
Daily Bell: You compared what was going on in the US to pre-World War II Germany. Further thoughts?
Jeff Berwick: The comparison to Germany between 1921 and 1944 is almost eerie. In 1921 Germany went through a hyperinflation ... which is in process in the US. In Germany in 1933 the Nazi government conducted a false-flag attack on the Reichstag, Germany's parliament, in order to gain national political power. This, of course, is very akin to 9-11. They then democratically elected a charismatic personality in Hitler... akin to Barack O'Bomber, the most warmongering Nobel Peace Prize (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2240/) winner in history who just this week extended the Afghanistan War to 2024 ... making it more than two decades of occupation and war in that country. Not to mention all the other wars and occupations in places like Iraq, Libya and the recent attempt in Syria. As things continue to get worse in the US the federal government is becoming more and more oppressive and across the country there are unconstitutional checkpoints checking people's papers. Many cities and counties have started making "homelessness" illegal and rounding up homeless and placing them in camps from which they are not allowed to leave. And that is on top of the US itself, which has the largest prison camp population on Earth with 5% of the population of the Earth and 25% of the worldwide prison population, most of whom never committed a crime against anyone or anyone's property.
Where does it go from here? No one knows, but the direction is clear and I removed myself from the Western world ten years ago to stay clear of the place that I consider to be ground zero for this economic collapse: the US.
Daily Bell: What about the NSA and Edward Snowden – has the surveillance society been exposed? Is that a good thing?
Jeff Berwick: It was both very exciting and at the same time very disappointing. Finally someone stepped forward to "blow the whistle" on the East Germany on steroids surveillance society in the US. This was excellent and Edward Snowden is a hero... although I wish he had contacted us to get a second passport (http://dollarvigilante.com/second-passports-and-residencies) beforehand. On the disappointing side was the malaise with which the news was greeted by the American public. It was almost a collective yawn and many people, including one of the Miss USA contestants, considered it a good thing to "make us safe." Apparently that old quote from Benjamin Franklin, "Those who give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" has been forgotten. After all, they don't teach kids in the government indoctrination centers (public schools (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2601/)) these things. Instead, they make them pledge their allegiance to the state every morning.
Daily Bell: Europe is irate. But don't all governments do this sort of thing?
Jeff Berwick: Well, I wouldn't say "Europe" is irate. The governments in Europe, and around the world, are irate. I don't recognize government as being legitimate so I don't really care what they do to each other as long as they leave us peaceful people out of it... but they rarely do.
Daily Bell: Snowden wants formal forgiveness from the US government. Will he get it?
Jeff Berwick: Of course not. Information is the enemy of the state. I would advise Snowden not to even request forgiveness. He did nothing wrong.
- See more at: http://www.thedailybell.com/exclusive-interviews/34772/Anthony-Wile-Jeff-Berwick-on-Practical-Solutions-to-a-Collapsing-World-Order/#sthash.GXnRzzcF.dpuf
The Daily Bell is pleased to present this exclusive interview with Jeffrey Berwick
Introduction: Jeff Berwick is an anarchist, libertarian and freedom fighter against mankind's two biggest enemies, the state and the central banks. Jeff is chief editor of The Dollar Vigilante, an anarcho-capitalist, Austrian economics based newsletter focused on surviving The End Of The Monetary System As We Know It (TEOTMSAWKI) and CEO of TDV Media and Services, which provides internationalization information and solutions for yourself and your wealth. He is also host of Anarchast, an anarchist video podcast, and is a contributing editor at many of the world's largest financial and precious metals related websites. In 1994, Jeff Berwick founded Canada's largest financial website, Stockhouse.com. A prominent speaker at many of the world's freedom, investment and gold conferences as well as regularly in the media including CNBC, CNN and Fox Business, Jeff expatriated long ago from his country of birth, Canada, and considers himself a citizen of the world. He has lived in numerous locales since including Los Angeles, Hong Kong, Bangkok and currently lives in Acapulco, Mexico and is building a home in Cafayate, Argentina. In essence, everything he writes about for TDV he has done or is doing.
Daily Bell: What's going on, Jeff?
Jeff Berwick: What isn't going on! We certainly live in interesting times and it is going to even get more interesting from here.
Daily Bell: Is the world getting crazier or is it just our imagination?
Jeff Berwick: That's exactly what I was saying. I am surprised so many people are so unaware about what is really going on in the political, economic and financial worlds. If they were aware, they'd be shocked. And, if they lack any moral philosophy and economic historical knowledge, probably dismayed. But maybe many purposely keep themselves in the dark for their own mental protection. I hear "I don't want to know" a lot. But like Ayn Rand said, "You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality."
Daily Bell: What's the biggest issue on your plate? What are you most concerned about?
Jeff Berwick: I sum it up as The End Of The Monetary System As We Know It (TEOTMSAWKI), which is sort of an all-encompassing acronym for the fact that the political, financial and economic systems we have lived in for the last 40 years are all on the cusp of collapse. That collapse is actually a good thing, as the world has never been less free in human history thanks to the explosion in the size of the state during the last couple of centuries. But the transition from these systems to what will hopefully be a much freer system will be dangerous. And, of course, there is the possibility that when they collapse things get even worse as people panic and give governments and central banks (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2958/) even more power. In either case, this is the most dangerous time in history for capital.
Daily Bell: Give us some background, for readers who don't know you.
Jeff Berwick: I've been interviewed twice in the past by The Daily Bell so those who are interested can look at those interviews for a more detailed answer on my history. What I am really, though, is a truth-seeker. I want to know what the truth is and am not scared to dig far down the rabbit hole to find it. Secondly, I don't believe in thinking collectively when it comes to nations, but I do have a warm spot in my heart for humanity as a whole, and also for all the wondrous living things that are here on this space rock with us. And, because of that, I want to see everyone and everything living as happily as they can. It is my opinion, certainly as far as humanity is concerned, that the best way to make that happen is to spread the word of freedom and to rally against those who try to enslave and oppress others. Those people most often are the ones pulling the levers of government ... one of the worst ideas still being propagated on this planet.
Freedom from governments and the centralized violence of their laws and regulations isn't a desire to hurt or damage others or the environment; it's the only moral system and it turns out that it is has the very real side effect of constantly driving technological progress and standards of living.
Daily Bell: Are things getting worse economically for the West? For the US?
Jeff Berwick: I think it is unquestionable. I've been writing for years with proof of that. But you just have to look at numbers in recent weeks to see that is empirically the case. Unemployment in Spain is 26.6% and in Greece it's 27.6%. It's even worse for younger people who are really feeling the brunt of the socialist (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1901/) systems that have been in place for decades. Youth unemployment in Greece tops 75%! And, the real unemployment rate in the US is well over 20% when measured in the old way that doesn't try to hide realities that would cause unrest among the populace. Not to mention that 1 in 6 people in the US is on food stamps... 1 in 4 children is on food stamps. The entire Western world is already in a deep depression as bad as the 1930s depression and it is going to get much worse from here.
Daily Bell: Is the US coming out of a recession?
Jeff Berwick: I think I can best answer that question with a question. What is a recession? What I mean by that is that the standard ways the government, media and economists calculate "a recession" make no sense. The entire West, and most of the world, is run rampant with incorrect economic thinking. GDP, as just one example, is a fallacy. It does not denote "growth" or "recession." Adding up the price of everything sold into one number for a geographic region does not say very much at all about the true economic health of the people of that region. If that were the case then, as Paul Krugman would advise, we should destroy every city in the West and rebuild it, as it would massively increase GDP as people's savings were used to just get them back to where they were before their cities were destroyed. It's a ludicrous concept.
The US is already in a depression that has just begun. There are no green shoots. There is no recovery. All that is happening is the Federal Reserve (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1855/) is printing new money (QE) and fooling people, temporarily, into thinking they are richer than they are as their existing earnings buy less and they have to take on more debt to keep their standard of living from plummeting. They'll soon find out the truth as that new money destroys their purchasing power and their lives get painfully downsized.
And so, to answer your question of whether the US is coming out a recession – where a recession or depression is a general decline in the standard of living – I think the answer is not only is the US not coming out of a recession but it is still in just the preliminary stages of a depression.
Daily Bell: What's your take on Obamacare (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/28358/) and Obama? Is his administration gradually imploding?
Jeff Berwick: Many people incorrectly state that Obama and Obamacare are socialist. Obamacare in its current form is fascist (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1902/) and part of crapitalism – crony capitalism (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1903/). It is just forcing people to use private, monopolistic insurance companies or be fined. Luckily, however, as with most things government does it is totally incompetent. This may be the fastest government program to implode in history.
Daily Bell: Will Obamacare be overturned? What will its impact be? Is the real goal a single payer system? How's that working out for Canada?
Jeff Berwick: Considering that its real results have been tens of millions of people losing their medical insurance (and having their rates increased by as much as 500%) with just a few thousand people actually receiving medical insurance, it will be interesting to see just how far the federal government can push the American sheeple until they finally have enough. As for Kanada, I have countless personal horror stories of the medical system there, as I was born and lived there until I was in my early 30s. I spend a lot of my time in Mexico now and much prefer the free-market medical system in Mexico to either of its fasco-communist (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1900/) northern neighbors.
Daily Bell: What about the Tea Party (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1878/) in the US? We think the movement is getting bigger.
Jeff Berwick: What I have found interesting is that the libertarian mindset is so foreign to the political class one-party system that Harry Reid (Communist-Nevada) called Tea Partiers anarchists! They for the most part aren't anarchists at all but constitutionalists or minarchists. What is nice, however, is that the word libertarian is finally being understood in the "land of the free" and is actually a cool thing to be now. Glenn Beck, who is a neocon (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2944/), calls himself a libertarian. Bill Maher, who is a liberal, calls himself a libertarian. And the Republican Party (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/28313/) is actually realizing that if they want a chance of winning, they will have to get the vote of the Ron Paul (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/859/) libertarians. Even better is that if libertarians form a substantial part of the Republican Party, it will destroy the Republican Party as we know it and soon after it will destroy the federal government. Because once people become libertarian it usually isn't very long until they become true anarchists and realize that government itself is an unnecessary evil. A popular Internet meme (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/654/) put it best: "What's the difference between a libertarian and an anarchist? About six months."
Daily Bell: What's going on with Chase? Why the new limits on international wires and cash transactions, both deposits and withdrawals, for small business accounts?
Jeff Berwick: Capital controls have been and are rapidly coming into effect in the US. But, they are doing it quite sneakily. The biggest thing to watch on this front is Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2916/) (FATCA), which is set to come into effect in July, 2014. FATCA essentially tries to make every bank on Earth a spy arm of the IRS (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/28213/). Most banks outside of the US are not willing to do what it takes to comply with this act and therefore, by extension, it will be nearly impossible for an American to get a foreign bank account. It already is, in fact. It's de facto capital control. That's why we urge people to make moves to get the majority of their assets outside of the US as quickly as possible. It's not easy, but we have set up many services (http://dollarvigilante.com/tdv-resources) to help people do that such as TDV Offshore, TDV Wealth Management and TDV Passports.
Daily Bell: What's going on with China? The economy there is supposed to be improving.
Jeff Berwick: China is certainly a very interesting place. A massive amount of wealth has been created since they let go of the shackles of communism and replaced it with their own brand of fascist capitalism. They have many of the same problems as the US, however, with insolvent government-propped-up banks and central bank money printing. They don't have the debt levels of the US, however, so it should do much better there than in the US over the coming years. But expect it to be a wild ride.
Daily Bell: China, Germany, London – all these regions are supposedly seeing new real estate bubbles. Your opinion?
Jeff Berwick: Bubbles, bubbles everywhere. Central banks around the world, including the three just mentioned, have been printing money at unprecedented levels causing massive misallocation of capital and yes, some of that new money is going into real estate. In the US most of the money has been going into the massive bubble in government debt, which has increased from $900 billion in 1980 to over $17 trillion today... and into the stock market, which is seeing nominal new highs. But, in real terms, the Dow is still down nearly 50% from 2000.
Daily Bell: Some non-economic questions. You spoke of the militarization of the police last time. Any updates?
Jeff Berwick: Updates? Where to begin! Since we last spoke the entire city of Boston was locked down while people hid in their houses and what can only be described as a military police force broke in people's doors and terrorized people in their supposed search for a skinny 19-year-old boy with a rice cooker. The Department of Homeland InSecurity has purchased 4.5 billion hollow point bullets... more than 10 for every man, woman and child in the US. And police departments around the country have been buying tanks.
Police now are the biggest threat to your personal safety in the US. Police kill a person's dog in his home during a no-knock raid on average every 19 minutes and are regularly fingering and anally probing people if they look like they are clenching their buttocks and possibly hiding substances that violate the modern day War on People prohibition on certain recreation.
Daily Bell: You compared what was going on in the US to pre-World War II Germany. Further thoughts?
Jeff Berwick: The comparison to Germany between 1921 and 1944 is almost eerie. In 1921 Germany went through a hyperinflation ... which is in process in the US. In Germany in 1933 the Nazi government conducted a false-flag attack on the Reichstag, Germany's parliament, in order to gain national political power. This, of course, is very akin to 9-11. They then democratically elected a charismatic personality in Hitler... akin to Barack O'Bomber, the most warmongering Nobel Peace Prize (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2240/) winner in history who just this week extended the Afghanistan War to 2024 ... making it more than two decades of occupation and war in that country. Not to mention all the other wars and occupations in places like Iraq, Libya and the recent attempt in Syria. As things continue to get worse in the US the federal government is becoming more and more oppressive and across the country there are unconstitutional checkpoints checking people's papers. Many cities and counties have started making "homelessness" illegal and rounding up homeless and placing them in camps from which they are not allowed to leave. And that is on top of the US itself, which has the largest prison camp population on Earth with 5% of the population of the Earth and 25% of the worldwide prison population, most of whom never committed a crime against anyone or anyone's property.
Where does it go from here? No one knows, but the direction is clear and I removed myself from the Western world ten years ago to stay clear of the place that I consider to be ground zero for this economic collapse: the US.
Daily Bell: What about the NSA and Edward Snowden – has the surveillance society been exposed? Is that a good thing?
Jeff Berwick: It was both very exciting and at the same time very disappointing. Finally someone stepped forward to "blow the whistle" on the East Germany on steroids surveillance society in the US. This was excellent and Edward Snowden is a hero... although I wish he had contacted us to get a second passport (http://dollarvigilante.com/second-passports-and-residencies) beforehand. On the disappointing side was the malaise with which the news was greeted by the American public. It was almost a collective yawn and many people, including one of the Miss USA contestants, considered it a good thing to "make us safe." Apparently that old quote from Benjamin Franklin, "Those who give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" has been forgotten. After all, they don't teach kids in the government indoctrination centers (public schools (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2601/)) these things. Instead, they make them pledge their allegiance to the state every morning.
Daily Bell: Europe is irate. But don't all governments do this sort of thing?
Jeff Berwick: Well, I wouldn't say "Europe" is irate. The governments in Europe, and around the world, are irate. I don't recognize government as being legitimate so I don't really care what they do to each other as long as they leave us peaceful people out of it... but they rarely do.
Daily Bell: Snowden wants formal forgiveness from the US government. Will he get it?
Jeff Berwick: Of course not. Information is the enemy of the state. I would advise Snowden not to even request forgiveness. He did nothing wrong.
- See more at: http://www.thedailybell.com/exclusive-interviews/34772/Anthony-Wile-Jeff-Berwick-on-Practical-Solutions-to-a-Collapsing-World-Order/#sthash.GXnRzzcF.dpuf