Hospital Takes Custody of Teen

[Serpo]

‘It’s Kidnapping’: Hospital Takes Custody of Teen Because Her Parents Were ‘Too Active in Pursuing’ Her Care Nov. 20, 2013 3:29pm Liz Klimas (http://www.theblaze.com/author/elizabeth-klimas/)


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A 15-year-old is stuck in a Boston hospital after the medical facility took custody of her when her parents argued against her diagnosis.
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/justina-pelletier_3.jpegJustina Pelletier got the flu last year, was admitted into Boston Children’s Hospital, and has been there ever since when her parents lost custody at the recommendation of physicians. (Image source: WTIC-TV)

For the last nine months, Justina Pelletier has been sneaking messages to her parents in Connecticut through folded origami notes.
“It is kidnapping,” Lou Pelletier, the girl’s father, told WTIC-TV (http://foxct.com/2013/11/19/hospital-holds-west-hartford-girl-for-9-months-after-parents-argue-diagnosis/).
The local news station investigated the case (http://foxct.com/2013/11/19/hospital-holds-west-hartford-girl-for-9-months-after-parents-argue-diagnosis/), for which a judge later issued a gag order, and has the background leading up to the ongoing custody battle:

Justina was diagnosed with mitochondrial disease a few years ago. It’s a genetic disorder that can cause loss of muscle coordination and weakness.
Despite that diagnosis she lived a normal life.
But last February, she also got the flu and was admitted to Boston Children’s Hospital to see her specialist.
Almost immediately, a different team of doctors delivered a different diagnosis, questioning the original diagnosis of mitochondrial disease.
“They came in, and they said we cannot take Justina out of the hospital. They called DCF,” says Linda Pelletier, Justina’s mother.
They said Justina had “somatoform disorder.”
In short, they were saying she suffered from a mental illness, not mitochondrial disease.
Her parents, Lou and Linda Pelletier, were escorted out of the hospital by security, and within four days, they lost custody of Justina.
The parents have been fighting the system ever since.
“They were actually being accused of being too active in pursuing health care matters for their child,” West Hartford psychologist Dean Hokanson, who has worked with Justina for five years, told WTIC.
A report by a Boston Children’s Hospital doctor viewed by the local news station cited Justina’s “regressive behavior” and “both parents’ resistance towards recommended treatment plans” as leading to a child protection team getting involved.
The family had argued that the procedures and medications given to their daughter were under the recommendation and guidance of other physicians. One of them was Tufts Medical Center specialist Dr. Mark Korson. WTIC couldn’t speak with Korson, but the Pelletiers provided the local news station with an email sent from the doctor to their attorney.
“I am dismayed. … It feels like Justina’s treatment team is out to prove the diagnosis at all costs. … The (Boston Children’s Hospital) team has demanded that Justina be removed from the home. … This represents the most severe and intrusive intervention a patient can undergo … for a clinical hunch,” Korson wrote in the email.
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/justina-pelletier_1.jpegJustina’s parents are allowed to see her once a week and can make two phone calls. (Image source: WTIC-TV)

It isn’t the first case this year where a child has been taken from parents after a hospital visit. Police showed up at a California couple’s home and “snatched” their baby after they took their son to another hospital (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/30/calif-parents-whose-baby-boy-was-snatched-by-police-tell-their-unbelievable-story-they-still-want-to-control-our-life/) for a second opinion.
The Pelletiers are allowed to visit Justina in person for one hour and make two phone calls each week. The girl still manages to sneak her parents notes.
“I know you trust in me. Don’t forget it. I love you more than everything in the whole world. Justina,” Linda Pelletier read from one of her daughter’s notes.
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/justina-pelletier_2.jpegJustina sends her parents notes with hidden messages in folded paper. (Image source: WTIC-TV)

“It’s beyond any wildest nightmare that you could think of,” Lou Pelletier told the local news station of the situation.http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/20/its-kidnapping-hospital-takes-custody-of-teen-because-her-parents-were-too-active-in-pursuing-her-care/

[mick silver]

Justina Pelletier got the flu last year did this make her sick ? shit like this may wake a few more up . one at a time

[Cebu_4_2]

Did same shit to my kid, wrist band and all so when you need to take them home to fix the problems you go to jail. This is not uncommon just a rarity that it is in the news.

[Neuro]

Fascism in its glory. Medical corporations have more right to protect their earnings. Than parents have to protect their children. Absurd!

[SWRichmond]

open a second front

[palani]

This is a case of reification ... treating something fictional as if it were real ... in this case the birth certificate lodges ownership of the child with the state and the state (in the form of the hospital) figure they have an obligation to step in and protect their investment.

Best to dump the birth certificate and the fictional strawman name that it creates.

[Cebu_4_2]

Oh that's bullshit palini. They wont release your kid so telling them you have no BC will make them stop??? C'mon how retarded.

[palani]

Oh that's bullshit palini. They wont release your kid so telling them you have no BC will make them stop??? C'mon how retarded.
You have to be able to assert a right. You cannot assert a parental right with a BC hanging over the kid.

[SWRichmond]

You have to be able to assert a right. You cannot assert a parental right with a BC hanging over the kid.

The state has become much too willing to play its trump card, and on any whim. It flaunts it, hoping that its boldness will cow us into permanent submission. It dares us to do anything about it. Anyone who is paying any attention at all can see this.

The state always reverts to the use of force. In order to counter, you must be willing and able to counter that force. What people must come to understand is that the rule of law is total crap. There is no rule of law. The state is nothing more than an armed criminal gang, and we are living in a Lockean State of Nature. It has always been so, but as government has expanded inexorably, just as Jefferson and Henry said it would, now it is rapidly becoming more apparent than ever that this is the case. The government does whatever it damned well pleases, rule of law be damned. Cops kill innocent people and don't even get fired, let alone arrested. People get strip-searched for the hell of it. Elected officials make promises and then can't be sued, arrested, or even impeached for breaking them. The list is long and I will not bore anyone here with it, we all know it. It's all a giant fucking scam. When the rules don't work the way the government wants them to they either change the rules or ignore them. If we did that we would have force used against us in a heartbeat. This a a plain truth statement of where we are. We are living in a criminal conspiracy, and we are the marks. Period.

So rather than "You have to be able to assert a right" I want to say that it is time to consider, rather, that, as is appropriate in the Lockean State of Nature, "You only have those rights you are willing to assert" coupled with "You must possess the will and the means to assert your rights". If the state seizes your flesh and blood on a whim, you can "sue" in courts run by the government that has seized your flesh and blood, or you can open a motherfucking second front. You have to decide each and every time what it is worth to you.

If the state seizes your flesh and blood and you react with fear, the state wins, and the rest of us lose.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."

[palani]

Reverting to force is usually a good way to remove yourself permanently from the gene pool. It also proves to everyone in the system that they are right. In the case of the BC and its use in connection with incidents of this sort you might move somewhere else and forget you ever had one issued against you or your kids. Easy enough to publicly disclaim the BC because there certainly was some element of fraud involved in its issue. How many people were told when they submitted the paperwork that it would end up in commerce? They rely upon trust in government and this trust is generally misplaced. So you put out a public notice disclaiming any connection to the BC and remain in honor because (once you bring this up to whatever agency is tasking you) they are going to stay in honor as well and not apply societal rules that otherwise would be exerted.

[SWRichmond]

Reverting to force is usually a good way to remove yourself permanently from the gene pool. It also proves to everyone in the system that they are right.

Whether or not one wishes to remain in the gene pool, having lost all self respect owing to accepting a condition of abject slavery, is a decision to be made on a case basis. At some point some men will reach the conclusion "I refuse to live in this contemptible fashion".

as for the state declaring they are right, THEY ALWAYS DO THAT ANYWAY so why even consider it?

[palani]

At some point some men will reach the conclusion "I refuse to live in this contemptible fashion". Until you have investigated other ways to live suicide by cop is not the best choice. The thing is there are a lot of people who get themselves wrapped up in a system when they would have done better to have not made some choices they made. Then once they get all bound up in the system they lose site of the fact that they can always get themselves untangled (although to do so might be 10x as hard as just not getting tangled up to begin with).


as for the state declaring they are right, THEY ALWAYS DO THAT ANYWAY so why even consider it? You address a pet peeve of mine. There are two entities you need to be aware of: the state and the government. They are not the same although the government would like to have you believe they represent the state. Point of fact is that YOU and you alone are the state and government exists to represent you. If the government is not performing at an acceptable specification of performance you fire them and get yourself a government that will perform as you desire. If you cannot figure out how to do this then you deserve whatever results come your way because ultimately you are the author of any action against you by your government.